What would happen if Republika Srpska recognized Kosovo?
Posted by zanimljivo123@reddit | AskBalkans | View on Reddit | 36 comments
Title is a bit simplified but let me explain.
Republika Srpska is a Serbian part/entity of Bosnia and Herzegovina (it covers 49% of the countries territory). Since all decision regarding foreign policies that are made are not on entity level, but national level, there is a system of decision making.
Each constitute people (Serbs, Croats, Bosniaks) have their representative. As you know, country of Bosnia and Herzegovina does not recognize Kosovo, that is because representative of Serbs is vetoing the decision of the other two representatives to recognize Kosovo as an indendpendent country.
My question is, what would happen if Republika Srpska recognized Kosovo, thus making the country of Bosnia and Herzegovina become one of those who support indenpendence of this relatively newly formed nation?
What would be the benefits? What would be the consequences? Could such a decision open the question of indenpendence of Republika Srpska?
hemijaimatematika1@reddit
RS entity of Bosnia can not recognize Kosovo anymore then it can recognize Poland...
It does not have that ability nor jurisdiction.
Serb member of Bosnian presidency can recognize Kosovo,alongside other 2 presidents,which would mean Bosnia and Herzegovina recognized Kosovo,not its administrational parts,like RS or FBIH or Cantons...
zanimljivo123@reddit (OP)
That's literally what i said in the body text, if you read it at all...
hemijaimatematika1@reddit
No,you did not,you pressumed that RS can recognize Kosovo.
If a Serb member of presidency recognized Kosovo,alongside the other 2 presidents,that would mean BIH has recognized Kosovo,it would not mean RS recognized Kosovo anymore then Tuzla Canton or Brcko District recognized Kosovo...
Lower level administration has nothing to do with state politics.
zanimljivo123@reddit (OP)
I literally said in the first sentence how i simplified the title, cut the bs
bender__futurama@reddit
Nothing. It is important only if Serbia recognizes Kosovo. Serbia should follow Cyprus and their solutions with Northern Cyprus.
Formal-Can-4168@reddit
So... Just ignore it?
Also I don't think Cyprus and Northern Cyprus situation is similar to Serbia and Kosovo
bender__futurama@reddit
Smaller Muslim ethnicity occupying some territory with help of bigger stronger force?
But yeah, we should just ignore it, make hard border and no negotiations.
But our government lose a lot of resources to negotiate.
Ujemegaz@reddit
Saying muslim anything, no lknger does the trick đ
bender__futurama@reddit
He asked for comparasion. Muslims on Cyprus with help of Turkey occupied part of territory. Muslims on Kosovo with help of the US occupied part of territory. Sounds better?
wantmywings@reddit
Catholic Albanians wanted independence too. You guys like to conveniently forget we exist
bender__futurama@reddit
Really, how many of you exist on Kosovo?
Formal-Can-4168@reddit
The biggest massacre in Kosovo was done against Catholic Albanians
bender__futurama@reddit
How many Catholic Albanians was there in 1999?
Ujemegaz@reddit
Catholic Europe hates Orthodox Serbia.
bender__futurama@reddit
Okay?
Formal-Can-4168@reddit
Occupying? Are you sure about that? Are Albanians the ethnicity that arrived during the middle age in the Balkans or the slavs?
bender__futurama@reddit
What does that have to do with anything? I dont need to return to Kosovo battle. Kosovo was part of Serbia, autonomous province with unloyal ethnicity. That whole 20th century worked against central government. Culminating with terrorist attacks.
With the help of the US, they occupied part of the territory and declared unilateral independence.
That are facts.
wantmywings@reddit
The âterroristâ attacks against police and military that were systematically ethnically cleansing villages and raping civilians? Each of those cops and soldiers can rot.
bender__futurama@reddit
It was vice versa. First unrest started and terrorist attacks.
FloppyDiskDrives@reddit
If you want to play the 'who arrived first' game, you have to separate genetics from culture. Yes, Slavic language and political structures arrived in the 6th and 7th centuries AD. But modern population genetics clearly show that Serbs and other Balkan Slavs possess a massive amount of Paleo-Balkan ancestry. The arriving Slavs assimilated the indigenous populations; they didn't just wipe them out and replace them. Genetically, Serbs are deeply rooted in the Balkans.
On the flip side, the idea that Albanians are some genetically pure, unmixed 'autochthonous' group that has sat completely untouched on the exact same piece of land for 3,000 years is a complete biological and historical myth. The Balkans have been a demographic blender through the Roman, Byzantine, and Ottoman empires. Centuries of forced relocations, economic migrations, and intermixing didn't spare the Paleo-Balkan ancestors of modern Albanians.
Both modern Serbian and Albanian national identities are relatively new constructs, just like the rest of Europe. Both groups have deep, heavily mixed, and intertwined roots in the region. Trying to use ancient, unbroken bloodline myths to justify who 'owns' what modern political border is completely historically illiterate.
Ujemegaz@reddit
You can't separate ethicity from culture. Plus, we are talking about neither. We are talking about kinship.
FloppyDiskDrives@reddit
Ahhh right. 'Kinship.' Because 2,000 years of Roman conquests, Byzantine rule, Slavic migrations, and the Ottoman administrative blender somehow politely paused and tip toed around your specific family tree. What a pipe dream.
Saying you 'can't separate ethnicity from culture' over a two millennia timeline is just historically illiterate. Are you out there practicing ancient Paleo Balkan pagan rituals in a tunic? No. Your modern culture was shaped by the exact same empires that shaped everyone else's in the Balkans.
If by 'kinship' you mean a pure biological bloodline, DNA doesn't care about national myths. The entire peninsula is heavily intermixed, and no one has a pure, uninterrupted genetic line to antiquity. If you mean the traditional clan system, anthropologists will happily point out that those are medieval pastoral adaptations to mountain living, not a frozen, 3,000 year old ancient society.
Retreating to mystical 'kinship' ties because objective history and genetics don't give you exclusive, unmixed ownership of the land is just moving the goalposts.
Ujemegaz@reddit
Mystical? You are detached from reality my friend. We live in a globalist society and mixed people don't stay here, the abandon these lands.
harvestt77@reddit
Smaller Muslim ethnicity - I am sure he was referring to Serbs đÂ
bender__futurama@reddit
Nah, Slavic Muslims are generally Bosniaks or Gorani.
Ujemegaz@reddit
Could be Iranians đ¤Ł
zanimljivo123@reddit (OP)
Too bad. I thoight that recognizing kosovo could help us gain indenpendence in some way
Aristo95@reddit
Literally nothing.
zanimljivo123@reddit (OP)
Toi bad, i was hoping it would help us gain advantage
VascoDaSigma@reddit
So, in 1777, the king of Morocco recognised USA by making some agreement with them as a state-not with English king, and that was how they recognised them as country. When VuÄiÄ signed Bruxelles agreement with State of Kosovo, he recognised it that very moment. He didnât need to officially say it. On the Serbian borders there is a sign that police officers have to recognise and let Kosovians in. De facto, Kosovo is recognised by Serbia for 13 years. Itâs just VuÄiÄ looking for piece of meat who will say it openly, so they can be crucified for treason instead of him. We made our peace with losing Kosovo, all this âKosovo je srce Srbijeâ is just âNext Year in Jerusalemâ.
DartVejder@reddit
Kosovo Albanians would be able to enter BiH with their Kosovo documents and wouldn't need to resort to using Serbian documents.
Other than that, nothing. Kosovo-Serbia recognition dispute is in no way related to the Dayton Agreement and status of Republika Srpska. That dispute doesn't concern RS any more than it does Brazil or Bahrain, and vice versa.
With that said, in practice, what I personally think will happen, is that sooner or later, the international community will find itself needing a precedent that redrawing of borders is acceptable, and when that happens, they will come to BiH, Serbia and Kosovo to create an agreement where Serbia recognizes Kosovo, and in turn gets northern Serb parts back, and international community approves independence of RS and potential reunion with Serbia, in similar way East and West Germany reunited.
This could happen soon because of the Ukraine war and redrawing of borders being suggested as a solution to permanently end the conflict.
Dear_Wrongdoer7271@reddit
The sun would have risen from the west on that day.
Ujemegaz@reddit
Sun for Albanians, rises in the west.
Ujemegaz@reddit
Nothing.
zanimljivo123@reddit (OP)
Too bad
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