So, if we are going to nitpick, Danube is cleaner at the exit of Belgrade and Serbia than at the entrance. Because big rivers flow into the Danube in Serbia and make it cleaner.
Also there is a hydro power plant on Danube, so only clean water is released from it. Relax, all shit is staying in Serbia.
It is not like all countries are relasing their shit into Adriatic sea untreated. 80% of sewage in Croatian seaside are relased untreated. And you pay big money to swim there. :)
You talk about nitpicking, yet you're pulling information out of your ass.
Croatia is consistently in top 5 countries with the cleanest bathing water in whole of Europe, as per European Environment Agency, and has one of the cleanest seaside waters in the world.
So, just because you might be bathing yourself in shit stained water, don't pull information out of your ass to justify the absolute health hazard happening in your capital city.
Yes, I can see that, because if you actually could speak and read the language, you would have read that the 80% refers to the biological treatment (second stage) from 5 fucking years ago (2021).
And if you had the ability to use google, you would have found out that second stage treatment isn't even required for towns with a population less than 10 thousand. And coastal areas lacking biological treatment are operating 100% legally under the EU's Urban Waste Water Treatment Directive.
How about you stop glazing over the fence and focus on your own domestic problems?
Did you fish that shit facts snd statistic from Danube?
That isn't true for Croatia, Greece, Bulgaria and Romania. All of us are obligated to build Urban Wastewater Treatment Plants (UPOV) by EU law.
Coastal cities in Croatia use submarine outfalls. This means that wastewater is collected, undergoes a certain level of treatment (mechanical, biological, or chemical), and is then transported through pipes hundreds kilometers away from the shore.
Well we are dirty people, what do you want from us? We still use a lot of plastic bags and we dont separate trash. When Danube water is low, you can see shit being pumped to the river from the pipe 😂
They also consequently pollute the Black Sea.
There is some possible great natural disasters that would be a huge disaster for all of Humanity.
La Palma landslide risk, Vesuvius erupting, and Black Sea flipping over which the Balkan countries amazingly contributing to it's possibility by dumping industrial waste into Danube.
Simplified, Black Sea has two layers. The surface level is a typical sea you know. The oxygen-absent bottom layer is dense with Hydrogen Sulfide which is poisonous for all Oxygen breathing life. There is a very thin boundary layer between the 2. And if it were to dissolve, the bottom layer would mix with the top layer and start gassing out Hydrogen Sulfide which would in time, according to estimates, make 30km inland from black sea inhospitable to all oxygen breathing life. Industrial waste from Danube helps that tremendously.
Great job contributing to that.
The anoxic layer exists since the time Black Sea was connected to Mediterranean via Bosphorus, the reason two don't mix is the different salinity which halts vertical currents. All the freshwater flora/fauna died with salinification and that consumed the oxygen with lack of vertical currents meaning deep water layer getting no more oxygen. Additional organic waste barely changes that. There is no "thin boundary" and despite lack of currents, oxygen-rich surface water readily mixes with anoxic water at depths of about 120-150m. H2S is rapidly destroyed in oxygen-rich water there by means of oxidation, which goes through forming suplhite/sulphate ions (SO3-/SO4-). This is what keeps H2S in the lower layer as there is no oxygen. The only viable way of H2S being released from the deep to the surface therefore would require a rapid process, such as a large asteroid crashing in the sea which WOULD endanger life inland, but I guess the gas itself would be just one of the problems in such a scenario. So no need to fearmongering. Still, organic waste is disastrous for the sea ecosystem since it causes algae bloom which as we all know is bad.
What? Black Sea doesn't have chemoclines? That anoxic layer is caused by bacteria, happens everywhere that doesn't have underwater circulation, like lagoon Maracaibo, which is nearly in a same spot as black Sea, connected by a very narrow strait to rest of the world. Or lake Tanganyika, which is so hot it kills underwater circulation(not like lake baikal). Then there is the black sea, which is a combination of the two.
That anoxic layer has been steadly rising in depth, previous century when it was first measured it was around 200m. Now it's around 173m. All the rivers feeding into black sea on its own, lowering the salinity helps that biological process. We have around 500 years before that becomes the surface level, and industrial waste just helps fasten the process by providing nutrients.
This happened in geological history when Tethys got closed off to sea which rendered 2000km inland inhospitable, which is clearly visible in both geology and in fossil records, such as explosion in fungi/mushroom fossils, and disappearing of vertabrate fossils.
My fear mongering is justified, and tried to simplify it so it's more understandable for the general.
The Black Sea does have chemocline. It does not mean water does not mix at all, it just means this happens much slower due to high level of stratification and lack of currents. This is the reason USSR considered dumping nuclear waste in Black Sea in the 60s, but opted out and used Kara sea instead, they thought it would be safely buried on the bottom, but upon investigation it quickly turned out it was not the case at all. The pycnocline is also not a sharp boundary where descending from oxygen-rich H2S-free water you suddenly enter H2S-saturated water, there is a gradient. In fact, after the pycnocline, the H2S concentration starts to grow slowly as you descend down until about 400-500m depth after which the concentration drasticly increases with depth and by 1km it reaches the saturation level that remain almost the same down to the bottom.
I don't think comparisons to the Tethys ocean are a good idea, since both water bodies were different and so is the reason for having H2S in them. Tethys at the time was an open sea with much less stratification evident (it became closed much later - in cenosoic I think?) It was also a warm tropical sea at the time unlike the Black Sea with much more biomass in it. The reason for the H2S gasouts was not an influx of organic matter from the continental rivers, it was sudden warming and sea acidification. I am not a geologist and I don't know how and why those occurred, but from what I know, they happened really quick (on a geological scale), immediately followed by massive loss of marine life due to water getting warmer and more acidic and that in turn lead to drastic rises of H2S as warmer water dissolves less oxygen, the bacteria that oxidize H2S require slightly alkaline environment and solubility of H2S itself is strongly dependent on the pH too, eventually becoming a runaway process. None of those conditions are currently available, at least not nearly close to the extent they were at that times (there are proofs that in those periods, surface seawater was highly acidic, surface water pH was less than 6, it is currently about 8 for example). While we live in a global warming period and seas are slowly getting more acidic and marine life is struggling, we don't (yet) witness the same conditions nowadays. It is likely that we may witness them in the not-so-distant future, but Belgrade dumping shit in Danube has very little to do with it.
This is true, with some caveats though. Lack of oxygen does little by itself, but lack of organisms (even bacteria) is what mostly preserves them. But the sea topography is weird, a large part of it (especially Bulgarian/Romanian/Ukrainian) seaside is rather shallow, so sunk ships in that zone won't benefit from it. Then the depth rapidly increases to a kilometer or more. The anoxic layer is tens of kilometers away from the coast in Bulgaria and even further in Romania and Ukraine. Ancient ships even with the advent of sails, preferred to maintain visual contact to the land and avoided open sea when possible, there are exceptions to that of course, that is why there are that kind of remains after all. But the exploration of ships in the anoxic zone is hampered by the depths they've sunk and weird enough by the H2S which can be very corrosive to certain metals, so this has to be taken into account when designing submersible vessels.
Zemun do Milvokija. Najjace kada su neki Hrvati nalozili u NBA nekog crnca da Srbi prisvajaju Milvoki, ovaj dizao desnu ruku na navijace iz Srbije. Komedija..
One of the few competent people in this country and they were trying to tear her down because of that flood that was out of her control. All because of what? Because she poked the hive a little to actually get things done.
They successfully ran Kovesi out of the country (sure, Kovesi is now doing great work for the EU as a whole, but here she's missed). And passed laws to neuter the justice system via Lia Savonea.
So this is not a given. And polls show that even if we had elections today they'd only increase their lead via the alliance with AUR, which is why AUR wants to trigger early elections.
Yea, but I just lack the faith in this country. So much corruption and incompetence. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if even our army was compromised.
War is literally next door and instead of trying a little harder to be prepared, make some drones, we will probably get caught with our pants down like in the last world wars.
"I wouldn't be surprised if even our army was compromised"
it might be crazy what im about to say but.. it is. watch this. and its 2 years old. things probably only got worse. and will get worse if we lose SAFE fundings. https://youtu.be/0_YnxJJcC7M?is=4pdkFrhMb3ZFU8n3
Fun fact: Bucharest was only able to purify 100% of its waste water beginning in 2023, after the Glina facility became operational.
Before then, whenever exceeded the capacity of the other facilities only went through cursory cleaning (mechanical treatment to remove solid matter) or was just dumped the local waterways, which eventually flow into the Danube.
I am talking about waste water treatment, not some idiots throwing garbage in river. But yeah, more or less whole Balkan except Slovenia (if we count them as Balkan) and maybe Croatia have this problem
Well you know. For our "goverment" and its "partners (mafia)" is more important to build more buildings and square complexes rather to refurbish some parks, kindergartens or hospitals. And also let me mention that they do that everything illegaly.
My hometown is also on the Danube. In my teen years, sewage water was dumped directly in the river by several sewage pipes, most of them were in the industrial zones, but one (smaller) one was right at the passenger quay which was downtown. That place smelled like shit all the time. I think they built the sewage treatment plant early 00s just a few years before we joined EU. Nowadays it doesn't smell like shit. The treatment facility does smell like shit though, it is near the bridge, so whenever you cross it to Romania or back, depending on the wind direction you can smell it, that old shit smell.
By the talk of our politicians you would think we would need to import raw sewage for all the cleaning and filtering plants that they built (0 in real life)!
I live in Belgrade, Serbia, and I see thisvery often, there are two options, something new happened, which is possible our peesident is idiot, or it is a total lie.
When I was student, me and other 2 friends wanted to get over the fence we thought nothing functional, after hours of wandering we found hole in the fence, and as we walked by it stinked a lot, then we have seen a big tube leaking shit on big field on land.
We got out and asked man walking by what the fuck is this, and he answered that is system for filtering shit through the ground before it reaches the river.
So it isnt the truth, I have seen this with my own eyes, except if something changed.
I have a family in Kovin and as a kid when I went to fish to the bridge to Smederjevo there is a big deposit of crap that smell is something you can't explain you can literally taste the acidic in the air
bender__futurama@reddit
So, if we are going to nitpick, Danube is cleaner at the exit of Belgrade and Serbia than at the entrance. Because big rivers flow into the Danube in Serbia and make it cleaner.
Also there is a hydro power plant on Danube, so only clean water is released from it. Relax, all shit is staying in Serbia.
It is not like all countries are relasing their shit into Adriatic sea untreated. 80% of sewage in Croatian seaside are relased untreated. And you pay big money to swim there. :)
Bardosaurus@reddit
Get out with your Caci shit, this is an issue for Belgrade and has been for a while.
TwoFistsOneVi@reddit
You talk about nitpicking, yet you're pulling information out of your ass.
Croatia is consistently in top 5 countries with the cleanest bathing water in whole of Europe, as per European Environment Agency, and has one of the cleanest seaside waters in the world.
So, just because you might be bathing yourself in shit stained water, don't pull information out of your ass to justify the absolute health hazard happening in your capital city.
bender__futurama@reddit
I admit that Croatian is a little bit hard for me, since we dont speak the same language.
https://www.reddit.com/r/croatia/s/1Bc8oTIFfu
TwoFistsOneVi@reddit
Yes, I can see that, because if you actually could speak and read the language, you would have read that the 80% refers to the biological treatment (second stage) from 5 fucking years ago (2021).
And if you had the ability to use google, you would have found out that second stage treatment isn't even required for towns with a population less than 10 thousand. And coastal areas lacking biological treatment are operating 100% legally under the EU's Urban Waste Water Treatment Directive.
How about you stop glazing over the fence and focus on your own domestic problems?
Sad-Swordfish-7131@reddit
Did you fish that shit facts snd statistic from Danube?
That isn't true for Croatia, Greece, Bulgaria and Romania. All of us are obligated to build Urban Wastewater Treatment Plants (UPOV) by EU law.
Coastal cities in Croatia use submarine outfalls. This means that wastewater is collected, undergoes a certain level of treatment (mechanical, biological, or chemical), and is then transported through pipes hundreds kilometers away from the shore.
ronydkidd@reddit
Nitpick? Brother we’re living in literal shit
akatosh86@reddit
Serbia is full of shit
Zealousideal_Low9994@reddit
Macedonia discharges it straight into lake Ohrid
Specialist_Hat1380@reddit
Ts needs to stop everywhere, period.
HorrorsPersistSoDoI@reddit
"Ts" ???
AttentionPlayful5280@reddit
This sh**
abandonedtulpa@reddit
Imagine censoring the word "shit"
Sat-a14@reddit
Its not censoring its an abbreviation
KPlusGauda@reddit
abandonedtulpa@reddit
Enlighten me, what is "shit" supposed to be an abbreviation for?
AttentionPlayful5280@reddit
Imagine not knowing what Ts means
abandonedtulpa@reddit
Buddy, I ain’t the one who asked what it means
Garofalin@reddit
Stopping a period occurs naturally when the female body enters menopause.
x-ploretheinternet@reddit
For real??
Zealousideal_Low9994@reddit
Oh yeah, in fact we swam at a very nice clear beach once and were later told it was next to a sewage discharge.
That's how much we care about the environment in the balkans
elbanzii@reddit
shit (literally)
i’m planning on visiting lake Ohrid, can you tell me where is the sewers part? so i don’t go there lol
btw lake ohrid is such a batichelli
x-ploretheinternet@reddit
I don't get it?? You sound sarcastic but it seems to be true
Altruistic-Earth-666@reddit
Wtf, im going there this summer 😭
Drama-Gloomy@reddit
Sorry but this made me laugh
wowoweewow87@reddit
Yep and then we tell the world that its Europe's oldest lake bla bla, all those stories just to troll tourists into bathing in our shit.
x-ploretheinternet@reddit
I've bathed in your shit, what a small world :)
Bezimena777@reddit
Me too! :)
unpopularthinker@reddit
Montenegro also does that into the sea. Often you can see a turd while swimming. Not to talk about stomach issues.
KrunoOs@reddit
Dude, don't tell me this rn. I am planning a family summer trip. Hoping for one of the destinations to be - Ohridsko jezero.
testicle_cooker@reddit
Well, everybody knows that best pearls are formed from purest shit...
Aakkii_@reddit
Raw?? No way!!
sendex@reddit
But it will go to Romania and Bulgaria so let them think what to do... /s
Imaginary_Grass9674@reddit
india of europe
pljackas@reddit
Well we are dirty people, what do you want from us? We still use a lot of plastic bags and we dont separate trash. When Danube water is low, you can see shit being pumped to the river from the pipe 😂
Kicholaa@reddit
Kad im kazes da su zemlja treceg svijeta, ljute se...
Scuipici@reddit
"wHy wOnT tHe eU LeT uS iN THey HatE uS!"
Imaginary_String_814@reddit
😂😂
Life with an inferior complex must be a challenge
CasperGwamm@reddit
Says the larper. 😂😂
Imaginary_String_814@reddit
I was literally born and raised here, some of you guys here need really bad therapy about ur insecurities.
you will be shocked to find out that nationality and ethnicity are different concepts
CasperGwamm@reddit
Imaginary_String_814@reddit
Ur reaction highlights ur mental capacity very well.
Imagine to be so hateful at 8 am lmaooo, but then I remember that the average Croat lives with 34+ with his parents 😂😂
CasperGwamm@reddit
Attempts at insults is all you have. It's sad to watch.
Imaginary_String_814@reddit
Lmaooo stating data is now insulting 😂
CasperGwamm@reddit
LMAO, reading comprehension strikes again.
Imaginary_String_814@reddit
Just don’t forget ur wig so people can recognize you
Born-Ad8034@reddit
Austrian = gay Serbian = based Croatian = based
No_Sand9920@reddit
croatia and based in the same sentence..
Born-Ad8034@reddit
Bro I'm trying to mend the tension. No more brother wars
Imaginary_String_814@reddit
its amazing how a little flag can trigger so many people.
amazingamy19@reddit
This is straight up disgusting, but no one is wondering btw.
rebezil@reddit
Thank god were not downstream
Falconeggfucker@reddit
Im not that happy
viciousrebel@reddit
Reeeee
CommonBuzzard@reddit
🎶Naša govna vama teku zagadiše grad i rijeku 🎶
original_af_@reddit
Well WE were promised sewage cleaming facilities some 20 yrs ago but the corrupt politicians seem to like corruption more than doing their job so...
The_Zionist_Enemy@reddit
We were also promised 3000 years ago, sometimes you have to take whats yours.
I had to, sorry not sorry.
alkorisno@reddit
We never got what capitalists promissed after dissmantaling socialism
Mackenzie_Little1@reddit
It is not their fault if you keep electing them.
Dramatic_Mastodon_93@reddit
If we elect bad politicians, it’s both our and their fault.
averege_guy_kinda@reddit
Well that's the funny part, we don't
True-Blacksmith4235@reddit
The only thing left is not shit.
mosa_kota@reddit
It's not about delivering, it's the promising that counts 😉
Playful-Alfalfa5729@reddit
They also consequently pollute the Black Sea.
There is some possible great natural disasters that would be a huge disaster for all of Humanity.
La Palma landslide risk, Vesuvius erupting, and Black Sea flipping over which the Balkan countries amazingly contributing to it's possibility by dumping industrial waste into Danube.
Simplified, Black Sea has two layers. The surface level is a typical sea you know. The oxygen-absent bottom layer is dense with Hydrogen Sulfide which is poisonous for all Oxygen breathing life. There is a very thin boundary layer between the 2. And if it were to dissolve, the bottom layer would mix with the top layer and start gassing out Hydrogen Sulfide which would in time, according to estimates, make 30km inland from black sea inhospitable to all oxygen breathing life. Industrial waste from Danube helps that tremendously.
Great job contributing to that.
No-Championship-4632@reddit
The anoxic layer exists since the time Black Sea was connected to Mediterranean via Bosphorus, the reason two don't mix is the different salinity which halts vertical currents. All the freshwater flora/fauna died with salinification and that consumed the oxygen with lack of vertical currents meaning deep water layer getting no more oxygen. Additional organic waste barely changes that. There is no "thin boundary" and despite lack of currents, oxygen-rich surface water readily mixes with anoxic water at depths of about 120-150m. H2S is rapidly destroyed in oxygen-rich water there by means of oxidation, which goes through forming suplhite/sulphate ions (SO3-/SO4-). This is what keeps H2S in the lower layer as there is no oxygen. The only viable way of H2S being released from the deep to the surface therefore would require a rapid process, such as a large asteroid crashing in the sea which WOULD endanger life inland, but I guess the gas itself would be just one of the problems in such a scenario. So no need to fearmongering. Still, organic waste is disastrous for the sea ecosystem since it causes algae bloom which as we all know is bad.
Playful-Alfalfa5729@reddit
What? Black Sea doesn't have chemoclines? That anoxic layer is caused by bacteria, happens everywhere that doesn't have underwater circulation, like lagoon Maracaibo, which is nearly in a same spot as black Sea, connected by a very narrow strait to rest of the world. Or lake Tanganyika, which is so hot it kills underwater circulation(not like lake baikal). Then there is the black sea, which is a combination of the two. That anoxic layer has been steadly rising in depth, previous century when it was first measured it was around 200m. Now it's around 173m. All the rivers feeding into black sea on its own, lowering the salinity helps that biological process. We have around 500 years before that becomes the surface level, and industrial waste just helps fasten the process by providing nutrients. This happened in geological history when Tethys got closed off to sea which rendered 2000km inland inhospitable, which is clearly visible in both geology and in fossil records, such as explosion in fungi/mushroom fossils, and disappearing of vertabrate fossils. My fear mongering is justified, and tried to simplify it so it's more understandable for the general.
No-Championship-4632@reddit
The Black Sea does have chemocline. It does not mean water does not mix at all, it just means this happens much slower due to high level of stratification and lack of currents. This is the reason USSR considered dumping nuclear waste in Black Sea in the 60s, but opted out and used Kara sea instead, they thought it would be safely buried on the bottom, but upon investigation it quickly turned out it was not the case at all. The pycnocline is also not a sharp boundary where descending from oxygen-rich H2S-free water you suddenly enter H2S-saturated water, there is a gradient. In fact, after the pycnocline, the H2S concentration starts to grow slowly as you descend down until about 400-500m depth after which the concentration drasticly increases with depth and by 1km it reaches the saturation level that remain almost the same down to the bottom.
I don't think comparisons to the Tethys ocean are a good idea, since both water bodies were different and so is the reason for having H2S in them. Tethys at the time was an open sea with much less stratification evident (it became closed much later - in cenosoic I think?) It was also a warm tropical sea at the time unlike the Black Sea with much more biomass in it. The reason for the H2S gasouts was not an influx of organic matter from the continental rivers, it was sudden warming and sea acidification. I am not a geologist and I don't know how and why those occurred, but from what I know, they happened really quick (on a geological scale), immediately followed by massive loss of marine life due to water getting warmer and more acidic and that in turn lead to drastic rises of H2S as warmer water dissolves less oxygen, the bacteria that oxidize H2S require slightly alkaline environment and solubility of H2S itself is strongly dependent on the pH too, eventually becoming a runaway process. None of those conditions are currently available, at least not nearly close to the extent they were at that times (there are proofs that in those periods, surface seawater was highly acidic, surface water pH was less than 6, it is currently about 8 for example). While we live in a global warming period and seas are slowly getting more acidic and marine life is struggling, we don't (yet) witness the same conditions nowadays. It is likely that we may witness them in the not-so-distant future, but Belgrade dumping shit in Danube has very little to do with it.
Individual_Ad_3425@reddit
Isnt this lack of oxygen also why ships are preserved well on the bottom but would crumble if you try getting them oht ?
No-Championship-4632@reddit
This is true, with some caveats though. Lack of oxygen does little by itself, but lack of organisms (even bacteria) is what mostly preserves them. But the sea topography is weird, a large part of it (especially Bulgarian/Romanian/Ukrainian) seaside is rather shallow, so sunk ships in that zone won't benefit from it. Then the depth rapidly increases to a kilometer or more. The anoxic layer is tens of kilometers away from the coast in Bulgaria and even further in Romania and Ukraine. Ancient ships even with the advent of sails, preferred to maintain visual contact to the land and avoided open sea when possible, there are exceptions to that of course, that is why there are that kind of remains after all. But the exploration of ships in the anoxic zone is hampered by the depths they've sunk and weird enough by the H2S which can be very corrosive to certain metals, so this has to be taken into account when designing submersible vessels.
ketchupadmirer@reddit
wtf am supposed to do, not shit?
Playful-Alfalfa5729@reddit
I am not referring to just sewage, just to one other aspect of the general waste done in Danube.
ketchupadmirer@reddit
there is a bigger polluter down stream afaik 😞 in Smederevo
gorat@reddit
Biological treatment and not dumping raw industrial waste into river?
ketchupadmirer@reddit
how the fuck do i do that, my only interface for shitting is my toilet seat? should i perhaps shit in a bag? paper of course
gorat@reddit
Lol, you as in your country/ government.
Aakkii_@reddit
Didn’t know that, good point.
ThickCaterpillar9867@reddit
Come on dude ,in Albania we have the same problem ,your shit goes from your hotel room directly into the sea!!
Capable_Studio_6631@reddit
Yep, the only difference is Serbia doesn't have a sea.
QuietWaterBreaksRock@reddit
Have you not see the Pacific Ocean??? That is our sea!
9uYx3QemUHKy@reddit
from the Danube to the Ocean, Serbian boots in motion!
iVar4sale@reddit
Srbija do Tokija!
bender__futurama@reddit
Zemun do Milvokija. Najjace kada su neki Hrvati nalozili u NBA nekog crnca da Srbi prisvajaju Milvoki, ovaj dizao desnu ruku na navijace iz Srbije. Komedija..
QuietWaterBreaksRock@reddit
Kako samo do?! A Tokijo???
AcanthisittaAble4943@reddit
ispred Tokija - Tokio da ostane japanskom caru
Ha55aN1337@reddit
Don’t worry, both their rivers go directly into the sea! Their shit still gets to your sea.
rejvrejv@reddit
unfortunately our shit goes into the black sea
Western-Pear5874@reddit
Ok, I am not going toAlbania anymore
Echolophus@reddit
Hey, so don't go to Năvodari. Just saying.
ThickCaterpillar9867@reddit
🤣🤣🤣
marcvsHR@reddit
We the get all your shit washed up at shores at croatia :/
dont_tread_on_M@reddit
Great success /s
Necessary_Message552@reddit
Damn XD
9guyKguy9@reddit
In Crete Greece the exact same thing
Harmalin@reddit
Serbs being Serbs, they’re just ethnically cleansing the Danube river 🤢🤢
Far_EasternRo@reddit
No shit! Oh, SHIT!
SerbianMonies@reddit
That's a lot of shit.
CheekyMikki@reddit
"An der schönen braunen Donau" 🎼
Sheeshburger11@reddit
lol
MinimumArt8781@reddit
Can you guys "Not do That?” , it's trully disturbing
HealthyHighway7335@reddit
Gonna cry?
HealthyHighway7335@reddit
Gonna cry?
-Peter-Jordanson-@reddit
Come over and we'll dig the proper sweage system together my friend. Two of us and couple of bottle of rakija and it will be done in no time!
MinimumArt8781@reddit
I'm always up for a bottle with neighbors
Echolophus@reddit
Can we not do that? We have literal sewage systems that go into the black sea.
MinimumArt8781@reddit
"had" until Buzoianu
Magnum_Gonada@reddit
One of the few competent people in this country and they were trying to tear her down because of that flood that was out of her control. All because of what? Because she poked the hive a little to actually get things done.
MinimumArt8781@reddit
She's not dying, we'll get her back in office one way or the other
TheLantean@reddit
They successfully ran Kovesi out of the country (sure, Kovesi is now doing great work for the EU as a whole, but here she's missed). And passed laws to neuter the justice system via Lia Savonea.
So this is not a given. And polls show that even if we had elections today they'd only increase their lead via the alliance with AUR, which is why AUR wants to trigger early elections.
Magnum_Gonada@reddit
Yea, but I just lack the faith in this country. So much corruption and incompetence. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if even our army was compromised.
War is literally next door and instead of trying a little harder to be prepared, make some drones, we will probably get caught with our pants down like in the last world wars.
HellSingHD@reddit
"I wouldn't be surprised if even our army was compromised" it might be crazy what im about to say but.. it is. watch this. and its 2 years old. things probably only got worse. and will get worse if we lose SAFE fundings. https://youtu.be/0_YnxJJcC7M?is=4pdkFrhMb3ZFU8n3
Echolophus@reddit
True
SuspiciousMaximum265@reddit
Is that where the sea got name from?
bljujemvatrupecemleb@reddit
yeah man i hate the serbian government too
icyu@reddit
What the fuck O.o
You guys ever heard of treatment plants ?
neman-bs@reddit
No, what is that? Do you put it on bread?
r3giment75@reddit
wtf
eferalgan@reddit
This is disgusting, people are fishing in the Danube
Capable_Studio_6631@reddit
Lol and what do you think the fish eats?
eferalgan@reddit
Not human feces
TheLantean@reddit
They do now.
Fun fact: Bucharest was only able to purify 100% of its waste water beginning in 2023, after the Glina facility became operational.
Before then, whenever exceeded the capacity of the other facilities only went through cursory cleaning (mechanical treatment to remove solid matter) or was just dumped the local waterways, which eventually flow into the Danube.
alkorisno@reddit
Capitalism destroyed our country
Sandstorm_221@reddit
Almost the entire Balkans has these problems. It got a lot better recently tho
tamzhebuduiya@reddit
Bulgaria almost fix this problem, I think almost 90% of the water is treated
Internal-Impression5@reddit
Isn’t it because of an European law ?
rintzscar@reddit
And EU funding.
SivlerMiku@reddit
The rivers are still full to the brim with trash though
tamzhebuduiya@reddit
I am talking about waste water treatment, not some idiots throwing garbage in river. But yeah, more or less whole Balkan except Slovenia (if we count them as Balkan) and maybe Croatia have this problem
Fit_Cost_9304@reddit
Well I'm from Slovenia and there is crap going straight into Drava river
Beep-BOT-NPC@reddit
Cleanest orthodox river . I encourage them to start doing river baptisms again .
Specialist_Elk140@reddit
You're acting like ordinary Serbs have any say in that situation.
Elmalukat@reddit (OP)
I don’t and I am not blaming ordinary Serbians.
Nervous_Bad40@reddit
Well you know. For our "goverment" and its "partners (mafia)" is more important to build more buildings and square complexes rather to refurbish some parks, kindergartens or hospitals. And also let me mention that they do that everything illegaly.
Substantial-Cat2896@reddit
This should be illegal
xesnoteleks@reddit
oh that's nothing. the pic is my street when one of the illegally built sewage collectors on a private property gets clogged and leaks.
all the water here is actually human waste.
ZenaMeTepe@reddit
Serbians, are you trying to become Balkan Indians?
PVanchurov@reddit
Given what we've seen I think we shouldn't feel any remorse for shitting on Serbia on reddit.
vikezz@reddit
Manqk, let's not start about the Varna sewage situation because they still haven't locked anyone for that mess
No_Sand9920@reddit
bulgolian
shcke@reddit
Eat shit, bulgarians! /s
unpopularthinker@reddit
Montenegro shit goes directly to the sea where people are swimming. Seems like a much bigger problem to me.
Infamous-Farmer612@reddit
We want to be a part of the european union! It important to mention that Danube flows, and our waste flows away from european union!
Logic abd simple green policy 🤣
unpopularthinker@reddit
What about Romania and Bulgaria?
Critical-Spell-6050@reddit
serbjeet
No_Sand9920@reddit
albanjeet
Apolon6@reddit
Same in Budva, dump goes straight into the sea on slovenska plaža
HanDjole998@reddit
Queen of tourisam/s
Time-Maintenance-274@reddit
Rota virus, guaranteed
ione_bear@reddit
A very shitty thing to do!
Martin_yoro@reddit
Get your shit together.
dicky1977@reddit
It ends up in the Black Sea. Hence, the name "black"
edgeofsock@reddit
How much time do you have?
No-Championship-4632@reddit
My hometown is also on the Danube. In my teen years, sewage water was dumped directly in the river by several sewage pipes, most of them were in the industrial zones, but one (smaller) one was right at the passenger quay which was downtown. That place smelled like shit all the time. I think they built the sewage treatment plant early 00s just a few years before we joined EU. Nowadays it doesn't smell like shit. The treatment facility does smell like shit though, it is near the bridge, so whenever you cross it to Romania or back, depending on the wind direction you can smell it, that old shit smell.
No-Introduction44@reddit
Vidin?
No-Championship-4632@reddit
No, Ruse.
MornarPopaj@reddit
Isnt that why mostly big cities are near rivers?
Cool_Relative7359@reddit
Historically, yes. And then we learned how dangerous that was and started treating the sewage water before sending it into the river.
maxi4493@reddit
By the talk of our politicians you would think we would need to import raw sewage for all the cleaning and filtering plants that they built (0 in real life)!
RedditAnonDude@reddit
Balkan….
Ok-Wafer9808@reddit
I live in Belgrade, Serbia, and I see thisvery often, there are two options, something new happened, which is possible our peesident is idiot, or it is a total lie.
When I was student, me and other 2 friends wanted to get over the fence we thought nothing functional, after hours of wandering we found hole in the fence, and as we walked by it stinked a lot, then we have seen a big tube leaking shit on big field on land.
We got out and asked man walking by what the fuck is this, and he answered that is system for filtering shit through the ground before it reaches the river.
So it isnt the truth, I have seen this with my own eyes, except if something changed.
Fit_Cost_9304@reddit
I have a family in Kovin and as a kid when I went to fish to the bridge to Smederjevo there is a big deposit of crap that smell is something you can't explain you can literally taste the acidic in the air
neckke@reddit
ulcinj too, a sewage dump that they are letting in the sea, its like 5 more or less km away from the beaches
Fit_Cost_9304@reddit
Kek I was there 2 year's ago
killereverdeen@reddit
in bar as well 😭
PaintSad8795@reddit
Feces are not the problem. After all that is organic and food for other organisms. But chemicals? All that soap, detergents,... Messing up the nature
New_Accident_4909@reddit
Algal blooms and biological contamination my friend are a real thing.
original_af_@reddit
Too much organic waste is definitely a huge problem, leads to eutrophication and lots of other nasty phenomena that can kill fish and such.
HarrowingOfTheNorth@reddit
Albanian propaganda. Serbian shit is snow white, smells of roses, and kills bacteria and viruses on contact.
fat_strelok@reddit
I have personally not received this hardware update, mine is still poo1.0
Miserable-Ground-379@reddit
They will literally drown in shit💩
Aakkii_@reddit
Guess what, we are also swimming in it!