Is it common for criminals from your country who live abroad to be highly patriotic? Or is it just an Albanian thing?
Posted by Substratas@reddit | AskBalkans | View on Reddit | 225 comments
Substantial-Cat2896@reddit
I doubt they think its fun to not have freedom
Winter-Speech978@reddit
Do you really think you have more freedom them the inmates?
Substantial-Cat2896@reddit
Yea? I go for walks, i do stuff i want?
Winter-Speech978@reddit
Definitely, if you can afford them. They go for walks too, and dont have to worry for food, bills or shelter, thanks to you who is slaving most of the day at your job so you can have the weekend off, if even
mdmdmdmdmdmdmdmdmdm@reddit
You have the freedom to not do any of that. You could run away. Take all your money to a third world country and invest.
Quit your job, thats free and part of your freedom.
Eat when you want. Or not. Choose what you want to eat. Have someone else make anything you want for you. Make something, then throw it on the floor and leave it to rot for 3 weeks. All shit you can do.
Life is hard. Society is hard to fit into. You dont HAVE to. You can do whatever you want in the boundaries of the law.
Freedom isnt freedom to do anything in life.
Freedom is having the choice. You dont have that in prison.
Winter-Speech978@reddit
And you really believe you have a choice?
mdmdmdmdmdmdmdmdmdm@reddit
To do all of things i listed.
Yes.
Idk how old you are, I was like this when I was 14 and thought all my thoughts were super deep
Substantial-Cat2896@reddit
I see i see. What about meeting girls?
Winter-Speech978@reddit
Who said they are hetero
Potential_Drawing_80@reddit
Most criminals are cisheterosexual misogynist men.
Winter-Speech978@reddit
Only out of jail
mdmdmdmdmdmdmdmdmdm@reddit
Have you been?
Ujemegaz@reddit
🤣🤣🤣
Ujemegaz@reddit
Walks? They go for plenty of walks in prison as well 🤣
Proactive_Criticism@reddit
They are for sure richer than most of us, dudes earn money while in jail , and we cant even go above 0 (damn overdraft)
Ujemegaz@reddit
🤣
mdmdmdmdmdmdmdmdmdm@reddit
I think overall youre right.
I think a lot of criminals dont see it as much of a problem as you or I would.
Institutionalization is a crazy thing. Prison system/ world of crime.
Both will have people thinking things are normal parts of life.
VexedRacoon@reddit
You don't understand. In the UK Prisoners have access to video game consoles, smuggled phones, any drugs you want, sex with the female prison guards (many cases in the news on that one). Then you get let out after 1/3 of the sentence.
Final-Interest-7664@reddit
You overestimate the average human's desire for "freedom".
deviendrais@reddit
There are other ways to have fun in a prison with your bros… :-)
NOTExETON@reddit
Coke bottle and a stick?
Ujemegaz@reddit
Fear_mor@reddit
Pa eto kad su ti ruke skliske zbog sapuna i stalno pada…
Substratas@reddit (OP)
Frankie-Felix@reddit
Like "guess where I hid my cell phone?".
FloppyDiskDrives@reddit
Citaku357@reddit
Have you seen those prisons in Norway 👀
CasperGwamm@reddit
Ours usually have dual citizenship of B&H and conveniently go visit the Virgin Mary "holy" site in Herzegovina when the police starts "looking" for them.
Substratas@reddit (OP)
Very similar to the Albanian ones. In Albania, they often go to Saint Anthony’s church in Laç whenever they have load to move.
SivlerMiku@reddit
It’s always funny to me how patriotic some Balkan nationalities are and then they go back to their country to throw cigarettes all over the floor, throw construction waste off of cliffs into national parks and rivers and generally just treat their countries like garbage. To be prideful of your country should include taking care of the country.
Obvious-Desk4573@reddit
From what I've heard, it's a "cultural" (for lack of a better word) holdover from Ottoman times, when Ottoman subjects would litter in the occupied cities as a form of protest since they knew the Ottomans (or one of their collaborators) had to clean it up.
It's a real shame we didn't get rid of that littering mindset along with the Ottomans!
TurbulentVoice3475@reddit
Instead of taking responsibility for my actions, I will just gaslight everyone and blame it on someone else. People today don’t have anything to do with Ottomans, stop blaming history for your behavior please.
Obvious-Desk4573@reddit
I probably should have mentioned that I do not participate in such littering and that it is not an excuse for people to litter! It's just a possible explanation I heard somewhere for why littering is much more prevalent in what was formerly Ottoman Europe.
TL;DR: Bad habits are hard to break for some people.
ChrisRedfield696969@reddit
This is just yapping Logo
erratic_thought@reddit
Fake nationalism is a norm in our countries. We act as racist and hating other nationalities and ethnic groups but also listen to gypsy music (kutchek). Especially in Bulgaria this is very obvious.
jb12jb@reddit
Because they are retards. Same in Pakistan and other places full of retards.
dupeni@reddit
This 👆👆👆
erionei@reddit
I’ve said this before and I’ll keep saying it. Usually the most ”patriotic” will litter everywhere, contribute absolutely nothing to society and end up bringing the stats on rule of law down. You show love for your country through actions, not just words.
TinyAsianMachine@reddit
Big facts.
FifaPointsMan@reddit
To be fair, they do that in their adopted counties as well.
FifaPointsMan@reddit
To be fair, they do that in their adopted counties as well.
Same-Platform-9793@reddit
How can they manage their business without their phones ? 🤨
KillerPalm@reddit
Aren’t diasporas in general highly patriotic/nationalistic? Not just criminals
Substratas@reddit (OP)
They usually are, it’s true. It’s one of the things that annoys me the most.
mladokopele@reddit
Why does it annoy you?
I certainly fit into the category.
NigthSHadoew@reddit
The most patriotic people I have ever seen were 2nd+ generation immagrants who never lşved in "their country" for more than a few weeks.
They will threaten to rip your head off for criticizing the place you actually live in while never moving there themselves despite keep going on and on about how great of a country it is
Procedure_Gullible@reddit
you havnt met cubans and iranians
MartinBP@reddit
"Oh no them darn immigrants don't support the bloodthirsty dictatorships who killed their grandparents! How bigoted of them!"
Typical r/AskSocialists poster.
Procedure_Gullible@reddit
oh no the bloodthirsty cuban governement sending doctors to jamaica..
TinyAsianMachine@reddit
Not first gen. First gen always hate their country and try to assimilate as much as possible (at least historically, immigration is different these days). Then second and third gen are much more patriotic. You can see this with Cypriots in London a lot too, both Greek and Turkish.
I say this as a fourth gen immigrant.
dat_dood_V@reddit
It's the most common troupe I've come across from Croatians, Albanians, BiH and Serbians. I think it's a common idea even from where I live that people in diaspora talk a big game when in reality they left right before the Yugoslav wars a r were seeking better opportunities abroad.
Citaku357@reddit
Absolutely which i honestly find it ridiculous
ZapruderFilmBuff@reddit
Well there is a hell of a lot more Albanians in jails then most others.
Ujemegaz@reddit
That implies they are not as sneaky as others.
ZapruderFilmBuff@reddit
It’s either that they are extra stupid or there is a lot of Albanian criminals. Neither is a good look.
Ujemegaz@reddit
We no longer live in communism where community is responsible for wrongdoings. The ram hangs by its own feet, says our folk.
ZapruderFilmBuff@reddit
I didn’t say you are. But there is still a lot of Albanians in jails around the world.
Ujemegaz@reddit
So what? We are poorest country in Europe. It is understandabke that some don't want to live in poverty all their life.
ZapruderFilmBuff@reddit
Why you mad bro? I was answering the OP.
Ujemegaz@reddit
You keep mentioning Albanians in every comment, tell us about Slovenians.
ZapruderFilmBuff@reddit
I did. And the title news is about Albanians. Touchy subject that many of your countrymen are criminals (and bad at it)?
Ujemegaz@reddit
Still glad i am not Slovenian. Better have a bad reputation than none at all.
Dazzling_Trouble3122@reddit
What new kind of cope is this
Ujemegaz@reddit
Numerous-Yam8317@reddit
Its actually really interesting reading these comments, can you explain me why? Isnt it better to be not known at all, even though slovenians are usually known as chill people, than to be known as criminals and pests in society? Do albanians really view criminal gangs and clan stuff as something to be proud of?
Ujemegaz@reddit
Nikoplam@reddit
Better have a bad rep than none?? What kind of logic is that
Ujemegaz@reddit
Tell me one thing Slovenians are known for 🤣🤣🤣
ZapruderFilmBuff@reddit
Good. I suggest committing crimes in Norway, I hear they have great jails.
Ujemegaz@reddit
I would seek attention if i were Slovenian as well 🤣 no history, no achievement. Just eat, shit and die.
The_Thighbiter@reddit
Hahahhaha the jokes write themselves
Ujemegaz@reddit
They are not killing each other over some events of the past like Bosnians at least.
The_Thighbiter@reddit
Our war ended years before albanians decided they want a piece of their neighbours too, a poor attempt of a dig from you xD
Ujemegaz@reddit
You slaughtered eachother like cattle for no profit at all.
The_Thighbiter@reddit
And we are still up compared to Albania, even after all that war and destruction.
At least our people are not throwing eagles like children, in prison, or on reddit defending being criminals as an ethnic trait of our people.
Imagine going through such a war that we did, and we end up, 30 years later, having the reputation of hospitable and kind people, versus some who try to insult us for the war but have a reputation of being criminals?
I am interested, is being a criminal something prestigious in Albania?
Ujemegaz@reddit
Well, we can't all be genociders.
Substratas@reddit (OP)
This was lethal. 😂
NidzoMadjija@reddit
I am not sure nationals who acquired their second country through literal terrorism are in a position to call out anyone for war crimes.
erionei@reddit
The UÇK was not a terrorist organization, no country except for Serbia saw it as such.
Ujemegaz@reddit
Substratas@reddit (OP)
The_Thighbiter@reddit
Looks like you can't stay out of prison actually
Ujemegaz@reddit
Looks like you can't leave your village 🤣
The_Thighbiter@reddit
ZapruderFilmBuff@reddit
taxirata@reddit
I know a bunch of Bosnians in Sweden, you guys are just as bad as us dont worry.
deviendrais@reddit
Then do crime in your own country. When you move to a normal country like the UK or Slovenia you don’t have to resort to crime to make a living. Go work at a mcdonalds
Antique_Birthday6380@reddit
Same goes to Serbian mobsters. I mean you should be the last to talk about mafia when your crime organization is one of the strongest criminal organizations in Europe since the 1970s.
Ujemegaz@reddit
Says someone from a country which sponsored bank robbers all around north Europe since 1970s.
Substratas@reddit (OP)
Are Slovenian criminals who live abroad usually patriotic?
FloppyDiskDrives@reddit
The only crime they commit is dressing up as femboys.
ZapruderFilmBuff@reddit
That is a pleasure, not a crime. Don’t pretend you don’t like it.
FloppyDiskDrives@reddit
icy_guy26@reddit
This-Wall-1331@reddit
Not a crime
albodude@reddit
2_bars_of_wifi@reddit
diaspora isn't significant enough to form communities anywhere so while they may be patriotic, you won't really see it like this
ZapruderFilmBuff@reddit
Probably they are. For their original countries (Bosnia, Serbia, Kosovo, etc).
Substratas@reddit (OP)
No I meant ethnic Slovenians. Are they?
6AlphaVictor@reddit
There are probably a couple here and there, I haven't heard of any Slovenian gangs on streets or prisons abroad. So even if they are patriotic they keep this for themselves.
ZapruderFilmBuff@reddit
There is probably a dozen in prison around the world. And despite the small size of the country, I don’t know them.
GentlemanInParis03@reddit
This is pretty much every balkan citizen who lives anywhere besides their own country.
Observe_Report_@reddit
I’ll give you my perspective as an Albanian-American who has lived here for many decades. Albanian-Americans are some of the most successful immigrant groups in The United States, some extraordinarily successful, financially speaking at least. Are there Albanian criminals? Obviously, yes. However, the hard-working and successful ones far away the criminals and I would imagine that is the case in Europe as well. Specifically in the New York area, where I live, Albanians own billions of dollars in real estate, yes with a B. I’m not going to allow some lowlifes flashing eagle symbols to define me or anyone else.
Substratas@reddit (OP)
THE NARRATOR: ”But it isn’t…”
Observe_Report_@reddit
Looks like you are a self hating Albanian
Substratas@reddit (OP)
I am not. I just told you Albanians are generally not as successful in Europe because the ”I would imagine” you wrote clearly implied that you don’t know.
Observe_Report_@reddit
The honest ones far outweigh the criminals.
Substratas@reddit (OP)
But that’s all peoples, not only Albanians. The likelihood for Albanians to be involved in crimes is higher than the average European.
Observe_Report_@reddit
And? What would you like to occur, purging of Albanians from all western European countries? You are pathetic.
Substratas@reddit (OP)
I don’t. I also don’t understand why you intentionally misinterpret whatever I say…oh wait - yes, I do! 😂
You can insult me all you want - I won’t stoop to your level.
Observe_Report_@reddit
Are you part Swedish? Perhaps your Swedish side hates 50% of you.
dibr_d_an@reddit
dont mind this kid, I reckon he or she must be an adolescent discovering the world, judging from the way he or she comments. Its actually pretty common for many albanian diaspora kids in europe to develop an inferiority complex growing up.....some overcome it, others become self-hating weirdos.
Observe_Report_@reddit
I think you might’ve hit the nail on the head, they are navigating a strange world, perhaps they are of mixed ethnicities, and that can really fuck with people.
Observe_Report_@reddit
And from the contacts I have, Albanians own many businesses in Europe and do well. I sense that you have some type of inferiority complex and self hate. Sorry to say that.
Substratas@reddit (OP)
I don’t. What screams inferiority complex is bragging on Reddit with other people’s money (or any money). 😂
Observe_Report_@reddit
You are actually pathetic and now I realize, not Albanian. My point, imbecile, is that you and other people on this board who are hell bent on putting Albanians down need to get out of your little caves and learn a little. That was my point, you fucking idiot. I literally said financially speaking. It’s to differentiate between success that comes without being wildly wealthy. It’s not bragging, it’s a little lesson for you and other non-Albanians on this sub Reddit. I’ve read people disparaging black Americans ad nauseam on social media, and yes, they are high numbers of black Americans in US jails, but the honest hard-working ones outweigh them. You are either a pathetic Albanian or not Albanian and posing as one.
Observe_Report_@reddit
Yes, it actually is, despite your bigoted view
Substratas@reddit (OP)
Albanians in New York (news from today):
Observe_Report_@reddit
Are you serious posting this? What point are you trying to make? You have serious identity issues and I suggest you address them. Or, as I stated earlier, you’re a rather pathetic child posing as an Albanian for some reason.
uncsc@reddit
Are Albanian Americans engaged in the productive, innovative economy or is it just real estate speculation and petty capitalism?
Observe_Report_@reddit
Apartment buildings, real estate development, restaurants, construction, a variety of other businesses, and of course as we’ve assimilated, you’ll find many Albanians on LinkedIn in business, accounting, computer science healthcare, etc. Are those far enough from petty capitalism for you?
uncsc@reddit
It's literally the textbook definition of petty capitalism 😬 (I'm all for modern innovative capitalism btw, it helped humanity evolve into the contemporary digital world, but those sectors you just mentioned are the fundamental sectors of corruption, undue influence, speculation and rent-seeking behaviour)
Observe_Report_@reddit
Actually, it isn’t. Petty capitalism is an ice shop or a pizzeria, dry cleaners, etc. and many Albanians own pizzerias. Are they not worthy in your Utopian fantasy world? The businesses I listed are NOT petty capitalism strictly based on the income they generate. I don’t think you realize how much money apartment buildings generate, and yes, they literally are “rent seeking” endeavors, LOL! As I mentioned, Albanians are in healthcare, business management, law, computer science, etc. You clearly have an agenda. Please show us where Albanians hurt you. Is there an Albanian in the room right now?
Fine-Ear-8103@reddit
You’re absolutely right I’m also Albanian from NY, the ones back home forgot how to fucking act. Our families came here back in the day straight from the katun and raised us with their mentalities that they left back home with, now was a lot of it old school backwards shit? Yeah, but our morals and ways stayed the same. The people back home tried hard to modernize and westernize in the 2000s and turned into something unrecognizable, a lot of the kids we get from Albania through lotteries right now are fucking embarrassing and SPOILED you’d think they came from a palace in the mountains.
Ujemegaz@reddit
Cool. But we live in a democratic society. If someone is rich or poor, doesn't affect the rest of us.
Observe_Report_@reddit
I don’t understand what you mean
marrecar@reddit
this is the typical albanian behaviour as diaspora
WhoYaTalkinTo@reddit
They can't be that patriotic if they live here
alkorisno@reddit
When you move you see that it is not really a better place to live, just a higher salary so you save up to come back and pay off your debts
Commercial_Leek6987@reddit
“Highly patriotic”? No. Ultranationalistic.
Conscious-Ideal4268@reddit
Would love to see follow up article about how they're in solitary now haha
WorldClassChef@reddit
We’re so cooked 💀
HumanMan00@reddit
TBH most "patriots" that throw up signs amd wave flags for no reason are usually very superficially patriotic.
They know very little about their country's history and culture, do nothing to improve the state of their country and in a lot of cases are stereotypically do a lot to drav it back.
It's gang mentality discuised as patriotizm.
Honer to the exceptiona but the exceptions are rare.
Substratas@reddit (OP)
Oof, the way you clocked that tea 👏👏👏
HumanMan00@reddit
Thank you my dude. Might see u in Sweedan soon if these protests dont pan out.
ItHappensSo@reddit
the most patriotic people Ive met here in Austria are all Balkaners, used to know this Serbian woman whod do nothing but shit on Austria all day, and tell us how Serbia is the best country on the planet, with the best people etc. Yet somehow she lived here in Austria instead.
frappekaikoulouri@reddit
Albanians are in general patriotic, at least in Greece. I really don’t find the reason to have even flip flops with the Albanian flag at the beach!
Substratas@reddit (OP)
Greeks & Serbs are similar in that regard but I agree with your statement.
blobmort@reddit
Imagine smuggling a phone in your ass to make a picture of Albanian eagle… 😂😂😂 thats some national pride
Numerous-Yam8317@reddit
Serbs actually integrate very well. I have some cousins from the US, sure they embrace their Serb heritage, but they see themselves as Americans first, and thats most US Serbs in my experience.
Timepass10@reddit
'American' is a civic identity. The general idea is since modern americans (primarily descendents of western europeans) took the region from the actual, native americans, nobody has a right to expell others from being american, as long as you pledge allegiance to America. Therefore immigrants are less anxious about assimilation. Because the framework is clear. It's also one of the reasons why muslims are much better integrated in the US than in Europe.
In Europe, identities are more based on shared ethnicity, history and shared ancestry. That's why it's difficult to ever be fully accepted as an immigrant, which in turn triggers a self-preservation impulse in them. Which is completely understandable in my opinion.
Even in the US, you have populations like the hawaiians who are located in America but who don't necessary feel american and who are rather proud of their own distinct culture. Which is also understandable. People vary in their connection to their ancestors and their desire to continue said culture.
Numerous-Yam8317@reddit
Thats true, but Europe is also changing. UK cant act like a nation state anymore when barely 1/3rd of London citizens are British.
Logical-Ad447@reddit
NYC is 36-38% foreign born, that doesn’t include their children. So is the US no longer a nation state?
Numerous-Yam8317@reddit
*ethnic state, sorry got those two mixed up. Point is, most of Europe, especially western Europe will have to become like the US
Timepass10@reddit
Will be interesting to see how that works out.. but the problem is I don't think that will happen.
FloppyDiskDrives@reddit
Not gonna lie the eagle hand gesture is cringe as fuck. Look, I know I’ll get downvoted with “you Serbs always be hating ooga booga ooga” but cmon guys, we have an eagle too as a national symbol. It’s just that the flying hand thing is what I did as a kid to create hand shadows on the wall. It looks kinda pathetic when grown adults are flapping their hands like that as a national flex. Just saying.
Take it as constructive criticism.
Goated549@reddit
that pic is so ancient I remember it since whole lotta girlies were down bad for the guy with the white tshirt 😭
Substratas@reddit (OP)
Ooh he phine as hell chile.
Goated549@reddit
in the words of an internationally renowed scholar (dj khaled):Another one
Substratas@reddit (OP)
Now I understand why so many of my compatriots in this sub are after me 😂😂😂
They be sharing all my comments with their peers ’cuz I’ve never seen so many views from Albania, chile. Stranger Things hive mind could neveeeeer.
dbe_23@reddit
You have a huge inferiority complex and it shows here by posting like a woman for validation from other balkaners to agree with you and say oh look these stupid albanian prisoners being tribalistic and doing stupid things in prisonetc etc. This is also evident from your comments when you say albanians are on average more criminal than others for some stupid reason without considering at all the factors behind it (perhaps being a communist closed autarky for 45 years leads to lower economic prosperity and the collapse of such a system that previously deprived people of anything materialistic impacted the psyche of massive amounts of people when the system fell and leads to organized crime?)
Substratas@reddit (OP)
Yeah mhmm sure I ain’t reading all that 😂
OptimusTron222@reddit
Random looser discovers Chad Apbanians
Ylming@reddit
There is a direct correlation between patriotism/nationalism and shithole countries. I read it in a magazine.
Substratas@reddit (OP)
riquelm@reddit
I was always very perplexed by guys proud to be Albanian, Serbian, Macedonian, Bosnian, Montenegrin.... what is there to be proud of ahahahhaha
deviendrais@reddit
I admire how braindead their nationalism has made them. Not a single thought behind those deranged eyes. Meanwhile I stress over uni and work all the time.
sendvic_sa_senfom@reddit
i thought you are talking about serbia at first.
Lord_Gobbledygook@reddit
Yes, depicted are Serbian idiots sporting their idiotic nationalism.
Or not?
Ujemegaz@reddit
They are sporting the double heade eagle below 🤣
Lord_Gobbledygook@reddit
Funny you should say that, cause you know, the Albanian flag...
TinyAsianMachine@reddit
r/thatsthejoke
NOTExETON@reddit
Its easy to judge
Fit_Seaweed_7780@reddit
This is gonna have 10k likes on Musks anti-immigrant Twitter timeline
Substratas@reddit (OP)
Israeli bots could never 😂
kwemular@reddit
Not from the Balkans, but this is definitely true for prisoners in the US. They pretty much universally love Trump for his "gangster-like" qualities. Prisoners are generally not very well educated, and uneducated people tend to be much more patriotic and/or nationalist. I think it applies to people from all countries
Ujemegaz@reddit
Well, not patriotism per se. Our organized crime has not reached Mafia level yet, so they have to come up with something.
Substratas@reddit (OP)
This!!!
When people call it ”Albanian mafia” I’m like 🙄
Ujemegaz@reddit
Because they abuse the Mafia vocabulary. They give us too much credit. A bunch of buddies pulling a strike is not mafia. But we are quick learners.
KingKostas96@reddit
Albos directly ship from the cartel in South America they are international wholesalers, they have 14 clans forming the Kompania Bello i think we can say they achieved mafia like status now
Ujemegaz@reddit
Mafie is a parallel state. It emerged as a system because southern Italian regions rejected the unification of Italy and their set of laws. It was an underground movement, but more high level and functioned like a pyramid. Later, with the narcotics and big profits, it destroyed itself. True Mafia does no longer exist, or we are very unaware of. What is known for sure, some tough hotheads making eagle gestures are not Mafia.
KingKostas96@reddit
True mafia does exist, influeced may have weakened esp the Italias in ny but, Chinese and russian also still live on here in the states
Ujemegaz@reddit
Yeah, but you will never find out what they do. Unlike Albanians who like show off.
KingKostas96@reddit
We already know lol , gambling , labor racketeering, extortion and narcotics same as always never changed
Ujemegaz@reddit
That sounds like typical gangster activity in America and most of countries. Mafia used to be more established that just organized crime. Omerta is an example of such mindset.
FloppyDiskDrives@reddit
Not gonna lie the eagle hand gesture is cringe as fuck. Look, I know I’ll get downvoted with “you Serbs always be hating ooga booga ooga” but cmon guys, we have an eagle too as a national symbol. It’s just that the flying hand thing is what I did as a kid to create hand shadows on the wall. It looks kinda pathetic when grown adults are flapping their hands like that as a national flex. Just saying.
Take it as constructive criticism.
Substratas@reddit (OP)
It really is cringe af. Very tribalistic.
35BCx1405AD@reddit
I don’t think your Swedish husband would approve of your ignorant comments.
Substratas@reddit (OP)
Oh god, not another stalker from Kosovo 🙄
35BCx1405AD@reddit
I wish I was from there. The only successful Albanians that have some sort of actual national plan.
Go self hate somewhere else.
Pathetic.
Substratas@reddit (OP)
But you are from there so stop larping 😂
https://i.redd.it/9swdt0gi96yg1.gif
Those thugs don’t represent me so it’s not self-hate. But they might be representing you which is why you seem so pressed.
Ujemegaz@reddit
Those thugs represent themselves. And you don't know their story, so it is so unchristian of you to judge them.
Substratas@reddit (OP)
Idgaf about christianity, but you have a point…
35BCx1405AD@reddit
You really are the self hating stereotype, aren’t you?
Marry a foreigner and you’re done with the culture. I’m pretty much all of your comments. That’s all you do.
Pathetic.
FloppyDiskDrives@reddit
Oof but we are all very tribal, us balkaners. lol so I guess we can’t escape the cringyness. 😂
CodExtension6180@reddit
The name of the country litterly means land of the eagles
Substratas@reddit (OP)
False. Shqipëria actually comes from ”shqiptoj”, which means to pronounce in English. Not from shqiponjë (eagle).
Ujemegaz@reddit
No, the legend of the boy and the eagle. 16th century. Shqiptoj probabaly is later.
CodExtension6180@reddit
Its from both smartass
FloppyDiskDrives@reddit
You don’t say.
Aulawabe@reddit
I thought only we Serbs and Albs did hand gestures, than I saw the montenegrins with their thumb and index finger. I loled big time. It's like "We want to be in the club as well" :D
FloppyDiskDrives@reddit
Croatians do one as well. Al kriju ga ko zmija noge. 😏
Citaku357@reddit
I find the same thing about the three finger salute
FloppyDiskDrives@reddit
🤝
magiundeprune@reddit
Oh yes, you can find it in a lot of places. Nationalism is common amongst criminals for a simple reason: it allows them to larp being a person of values and principles without actually having to walk the talk. These people exploit and destroy their own communities and their own countries, they are cockroaches, and the only way they can live with themselves is by pretending there is some patriotic value that can be found in their empty platitudes and flag collections but not in the way they treat others and live their lives.
Diaspora sometimes face similar insecurities around "abandoning their homeland" or whatever (I say this as diaspora myself) so they become ultra-nationalistic to make up for it.
Diaspora criminals are just the worst of both worlds.
AdWonderful3621@reddit
Real criminals do not care about nationality. Serbs, Croats, Albanians work really nice together as criminals...
EdgyNationMemes@reddit
Well maybe this hand gesture has a different meaning inside prison.Maybe they are implying being homosexual or something like that.
Substratas@reddit (OP)
https://i.redd.it/oa1x9x8ta6yg1.gif
Antique_Birthday6380@reddit
Na ke ca karin o u/substratas
Substratas@reddit (OP)
Wait, aren’t you that Albanian guy who was pretending to be a foreigner in another post? 😂😂😂😂😂
Antique_Birthday6380@reddit
Where did you get the idea that I was pretending to be a foreigner genius?
wikimandia@reddit
The Sun is trash.
It sounds like the Albanians are close to model prisoners if this photo is the worst thing they can find to report on their behavior.
Citaku357@reddit
Fun fact: The Sun is banned in Liverpool
TraditionAdorable389@reddit
This looks like a TRIGA film
Citaku357@reddit
What?
Substratas@reddit (OP)
https://i.redd.it/ivvk20nbv5yg1.gif
Desperate_Role_3940@reddit
Yes,albanians invented nationalism
Citaku357@reddit
Yes by Alban Nati 1808
Short-Programmer6444@reddit
Albanians proud of this 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
Substratas@reddit (OP)
It’s super low.
AgileAd1346@reddit
There are more albanians living in foreign prisons than in albania lmao
Observe_Report_@reddit
Imbecile detected
Warm-Abrocoma3306@reddit
source?
VisibleReport5008@reddit
yes
Positive_Storage515@reddit
In Romania we have a political party named AUR, and they are verry nationalist.
Proper_Scar_6385@reddit
What that has to do whith the question op asked?
Positive_Storage515@reddit
I reader just "Commons criminal to pe patriotical", my bad :))
Vajdugaa@reddit
It's common for criminals living in the country, not just diaspora
thanasis87kav@reddit
What's the thing with their upper legs? Looks like a fascist salute
Substantial-One1934@reddit
They are making eagles wings that's their national flags emblem
Neat-Attempt7442@reddit
Its an albanian eagle sign
Substratas@reddit (OP)
Upper legs?
SamiTheAnxiousBean@reddit
Yes, and even moreso then Albanians (or at least the ones I met, one makes their whole personality out of the country they live in, the other with atrocities and hate crimes our country commited)
Substratas@reddit (OP)
It’s absolutely nuts.
harvestt77@reddit
This jus an Albanian thing, only. Other criminals hide their identity or blame other ethnicities for their crimes.