Does it look bad to pass my PPL written with a 70%?

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InJailForCrimes@reddit

Just be prepared to talk about all the subjects you got wrong. It's not a bad look if you can demonstrate that you learned from it.

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mediumsizedmelon420@reddit (OP)

This is comforting. Definitely gonna grind the concepts I missed

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I’m not a huge fan but chat gpt look up the codes you got wrong. Ask it to provide you scenario based questions for those codes. It’ll give you a good idea of how those questions play out in real life (if you got some of those more obscure ones wrong).

Also your CFI should go through the with you prior to checkride.

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inversiondude@reddit

Yeah, no don’t use chat gpt to find the codes. Find them in the ACS or on the FAA website. Faatestcodelookup.com I believe is a good one.

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Fine_Fortune844@reddit

Any idea where that website pulls the codes from?

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iwannadieplease@reddit

CFI flair saying this scare me.

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Fine_Fortune844@reddit

Seems like a you problem

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Fine_Fortune844@reddit

Probably a boomer who only flies VOR approaches.

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Adventurous_Bus13@reddit

Replying to yourself is crazy lol

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Fine_Fortune844@reddit

Shit a boomer would say

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peeapepee@reddit

Might as well learn how to read the ACS properly, seeing as it is a requirement to be familiar with it prior to starting a checkride

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Fine_Fortune844@reddit

Reading is hard

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okayimbackagain@reddit

[At the risk of getting downvoted like there’s no tomorrow..]

I am surprised so many people are anti-LLM for studying. Yes they hallucinate, and also yes they are improving by the week. But more importantly, you can always specify the source and spot check some answers for those codes to make sure you’re getting the correct data. Also LLM is an excellent way to generate potential oral questions for your checkride. You should definitely not trust the answers blindly, but when you’re being strategic and smart about it, in my experience it can become an excellent study buddy. The trick is to make it always list the source and verify as much as practical.

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Captain_Driz@reddit

Why chat gpt the codes and risk it giving you the wrong information? It takes 5 minutes to find PLT codes.

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Fine_Fortune844@reddit

ChatGPT is < 1 minute bruh. Work smarter not harder

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OOF-MY-PEE-PEE@reddit

ChatGPT is also frequently wrong. Also have fun lobotomizing yourself and removing all desire to discover and learn. Were this close to just having chatgpt feed us, wipe our asses, and go to work for us so we can look like the people from Wall-E

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Key-Pianist-7997@reddit

Honestly this isn't a bad suggestion...chatgpt may not get everything 100% but it definitely helps. Don't understand why so many downvotes

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AtariFerrariNH@reddit

Nope. What do you call the pilot that got 100% on their written? The same thing you call the pilot that got 70% on theirs.

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ThatLooksRight@reddit

It looks better than “number of attempts:2”.

Don’t take it again, if that’s what you’re getting at.

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iPhones_cameras_suck@reddit

Is this true also for IFR? I was unhappy with my IFR score and seriously considering taking it again

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ThatLooksRight@reddit

It’s true for all of them.

Imagine you’re the DPE. You’re probably asking all your standard questions anyway, no matter what someone scores.

But, if they have a test failure showing (even if it’s not, how would they know? Because it sure looks like you failed)…I mean, you’d definitely be more in depth, right?

If you pass, you pass. Just roll with it.

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mursilissilisrum@reddit

At least for PPL, the way it was explained to me is that having a higher score on your written just makes it more likely that the DPE will give you an easier time on the oral exam.

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Effective-Scratch673@reddit

How? You didn't use Sheppard Air ?

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iPhones_cameras_suck@reddit

No, I got Shepparda Air but couldn't get it tomorrow reliably on my computer

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Icy-Bar-9712@reddit

DO NOT TAKE IT AGAIN! Full stop. You are going tk get hammered by multiple attempts.

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ApatheticSkyentist@reddit

There was a guy a while back who posted his second pass like he was proud of himself. He got a 90 something and then took it again to get closer to 100.

The comments were what you would expect...

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Icy-Bar-9712@reddit

I know of a studwnt with 9 attempts in order to get a 100%

Luckily all of them were passes and the lowest was like an 86.

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ThatLooksRight@reddit

Should’ve failed the checkride due to judgement.

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Icy-Bar-9712@reddit

Hasn't taken it yet, can't get signed off

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poser765@reddit

Jesus, I wish I had that kind of throw away money.

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TooManyPoisons@reddit

Wait, why is that bad?

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KITTYONFYRE@reddit

also it's like $250 for these tests so it's a giant waste of money

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Ok_Witness179@reddit

Unless you also show him the results from your first take, having taken it a second time implies you failed first try. Obviously that's not great, because it shows lack of preparation.

Having taken it a second time despite passing the first time shows a lack of decision making. You wasted time and money.

In either case, not a great first impression. Its one of the first things the dpe sees when starting the oral.

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ApatheticSkyentist@reddit

I could be wrong here so someone fact check me if so:

But I believe your DPE or whoever is looking at your record only sees that you took the written twice. They do not see your first score. So as far as they know you failed it the first time.

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dfelton912@reddit

Because the difference between scoring a 90 and a 100 is negligible. He wasted time and money just for a nearly meaningless number, all for it to be covered with a couple oral questions in the checkride anyway

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No-Requirement-7810@reddit

Obviously, every DPE is different, but in the past I have taken every single missed code, written what it represented and written out the answer underneath it. I did this last time with an 86 and it took well over five hours. It will not be a short process, because you need to answer every element to the question, but it my experience it went a long way. I told my DPE I had written out my codes and their answers and I handed it over. She read through it and asked me a few questions about each one but she didn’t dig nearly as much as they normally do. You’ll be ready for anything they ask you because you’ve already researched it and it shows that you’re determined. Some DPEs don’t care about the written and some do. I was lucky enough to know my DPE cared. With a 70 however, you will most likely be asked some things no matter the DPE. I agree with the comments, you don’t need to retake it. I would take the time you would have used doing remedial study to write out your codes. Some of the codes will be BS but some will really help identify your weak areas so it will be good for you either way.

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Live-Juggernaut-221@reddit

What do you call the person who graduates last in their class in medical school?

"Doctor"

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CaptMcMooney@reddit

not really, the DPE will most likely go over the missed questions just to make sure you've studied.

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Texpress22@reddit

You’ll likely have a few more questions to cover with your CFI and the examiner will probably probe a bit more during your check ride but if you’re prepared properly then that won’t be a problem

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boostlee33@reddit

Were the questions completely diffrent from the practice exams you have been taking? Which practices tests did you take?

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TxAggieMike@reddit

Keep in mind, the knowledge test for private pilot is not a rote memorization exercise.

You need to study the material to a deep understanding level. Then no matter the question, you can derive the correct answer.

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DisregardLogan@reddit

I agree to some extent, but some questions are also just wording screwups made to get you.

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mediumsizedmelon420@reddit (OP)

ASA prepware and a lot of the concepts I studied weren’t even close to what the exam questions were and I went through each category and took several practice exams

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whatdoestheregsay@reddit

Study the hell out of your codes, and be prepared for a longer-than-usual oral.

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Xolah_D_Star@reddit

what do you mean by codes? the radio frequencies?

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whatdoestheregsay@reddit

When you take your written, you get a sheet with your score, and under the score, it has “codes” that correspond with sections of the ACS where you missed questions. This won’t be the last time you’ve heard this question, but are you familiar with the ACS?

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FlyByPC@reddit

Rules and regs.

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Impressive_Jury_2211@reddit

I passed with a 72%

When check-ride time came my DPE said “you went over all these missed questions with you instructor right”

I said yes, he said “sick let’s go fly”

I then proceeded to pass my checkride ground and flight 1 hour and 30 minutes total

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burnheartmusic@reddit

I call BS. There’s no way that from the time you showed up to the time you left was 1:30.

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Impressive_Jury_2211@reddit

You can call atp in Long Beach ask if it’s true be my guest

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burnheartmusic@reddit

Oh man, you do you but get yourself somewhere other than atp

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Cmdr-Ely@reddit

What's his name and phone number?😆

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ThunderBearry@reddit

Which DPE? Asking for a friend (me)

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Impressive_Jury_2211@reddit

Dm me

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Prestigious-Sand4053@reddit

Sent you a DM

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agadir80@reddit

“sick let’s go fly....I then proceeded to pass my checkride ground” doesn't add up...

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DevilLobstaXI@reddit

FAA has entered the chat

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atlatlat@reddit

This isn’t meant to be any offense to you and you clearly didn’t do anything wrong, but I would like to stay far away from y’all’s airpsace lol

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Impressive_Jury_2211@reddit

Long Beach California baby everything under the bravo that’s where I’m at stay safe 🫶🫶🫶

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JeBoiFoosey@reddit

Does this guy do cfi rides?

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Impressive_Jury_2211@reddit

Yes dm me

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Impressive_Fig_7812@reddit

You probably studying it wrong, get a good question bank and grind the shit out of it. These exams are just there to confuse you, not to test your actual knowledge

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lnxguy@reddit

Anyone can get 70%. It takes a hero to leave 30% blank.

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DayZ-Bott@reddit

I got 77% on my IRA written and my ground was 22 minutes start to finish not including the paperwork

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Oregon-Pilot@reddit

C’s get degrees

FAA written tests are an absolute joke anyways. Just make sure you’re on top of studying for the oral.

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n505ak@reddit

Zero percent wasted effort. That’s perfection in my mind.

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No_Pirate1920@reddit

I got a 72 on my first try, go do Sheppard air or something and get a higher score. I got an 88 my 2nd try and my DPE didn’t look twice. Definitely will raise an eybrow if you go in there with a low 70’s score.

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Ok_Elderberry4489@reddit

This is what I did for all my checkrides. I make a binder for my checkrides. I include the code in the ACS that I failed, along with promo and answer to question. You should study, so if you need a quick reminder you can double check it. If you wanna see how I do mine, send me a DM and I'll email it to you.

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tapas_n-beer@reddit

C's earn degrees.

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jrstudentpilot16@reddit

Dm me plz too sounds like a great dpe

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jrstudentpilot16@reddit

Yes it is bad but what were your practice test scores as a avg I have been getting 90%avg

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Wr3ckless13@reddit

A pass is a pass. You're good. But I would study up on the parts you got wrong.

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Admirable-Pie3869@reddit

I got a score in the 70s. At the end of the oral portion of my checkride, the DPE said "If your flying is half as good as how you did here, you're going to be fine."

Just be prepared. Relax. Your CPI wouldn't sign off for your checkride if they don't think you're ready.

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Ancient-Dust3077@reddit

I passed with a 70 percent, guessed on all the e6b questions too lol. Checkride went well though

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YoKalvary@reddit

I took the test twice and scored a 70/88. My oral was about an hour long. I don’t see anything wrong with it. Checkride passed!

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Playful-Cap445@reddit

Keyword pass not fail!!!

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CaliforniaLifeSky@reddit

I took and passed my ppl with a 70% in 2021. It was about a three hr oral. And a 1 hr flight. On the oral part it will focus more on the stuff you missed. So study that 30% you missed and you will be great

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Imperial_Citizen_00@reddit

A pass is a pass, some people are not good at taking tests and there is so much other stuff to know and remember

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Captain_Driz@reddit

It will make your oral portion longer

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Rictor_Scale@reddit

For readers preparing for your written keep taking online practice tests 'hundreds' of times if necessary until you are scoring near 100%.

All of the questions come from a bank so you will score about the same on the real thing. Some are borderline trick questions so you need to prepared.

This will also highlight weaknesses you need to hit the books on. These are free so use them to your advantage.

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DearCommunication142@reddit

What did you use to study the material ? I’m currently using sportys to study for my written before I start the actual flying portion. If you have any recommendations please let me know !

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mediumsizedmelon420@reddit (OP)

I used only ASA prepware and from what I’ve seen it might be best to do a little bit of both but I’m not familiar with the sportys test prep. Good luck on yours!!

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polardog11@reddit

A pass is a pass. I passed in the mid 80s and my dpe took a glance that lasted maybe 2-3 seconds then we moved on. As others have said, don't take it again.

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adventuresofh@reddit

I got exactly 70% on my ppl written. My DPE noted later that she didn’t know what was going on with me when I took my written, but that I did a great job on the oral and practical.

It was a non issue, just study up on what you missed

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T-1A_pilot@reddit

I have no civilian experience in these matters, but the military phrase was 'it wouldn't be the minimum if it wasn't good enough!'

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erik325i@reddit

Sure, it’s nice to get 100%, but your DPE still needs to ask you questions during the oral. Since you got 70%, you still passed, but your DPE needs to evaluate you on those topics. THE GOOD THING is you know he will ask you questions about those specific topics, so study up and be prepared to shine.

Instead of wondering is he’s going to test you on some random sub topic A-Z, you know he’ll test you on C for example because that is what you got wrong.

Just don’t get any of those topics wrong again.

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AIRdomination@reddit

A pass is a pass. You’ll just be asked more questions during your checkride. No big deal.

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Schwalbe262Guy@reddit

I passed with a 75% granted I don’t study as hard. It’s advisable you study every subject you missed and be prepared to go into it.

PPL checkride came around and we went through quite a few of the questions

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ltcterry@reddit

Your comments are the poster child for why "practice tests" have zero value as "studying." If you know the material well instead of being confused that you don't recognize the questions then there are no issues.

No one is going to give a shit about a 70. You passed. It's not going to make your oral miserable. More likely, you now know pretty much what it will look like!

By the way - on the oral you have to know the material. You don't get look for the memorized response.

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MangledX@reddit

Your oral may be vastly longer than if you'd have scored a 94, but as long as you know the information that may change as well. Examiners usually know in the first 20 minutes if you studied up on the material and if you're going to struggle or do well for the remainder of the practical test. I would definitely start getting in the ACS now and ensuring that you don't stumble much or at all on that material. Nothing turns them off more than you missing questions on a test, and still being weak on the material at the checkride. Tells them you didn't really invest any effort into getting smarter on the topic.

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mediumsizedmelon420@reddit (OP)

This is helpful thank you!!

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bhalter80@reddit

I'm more impressed that you managed to get exactly a 70

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Cdraw51@reddit

A pass is a pass, but at the same time you'll probably want to really dive deep into the subject areas you missed, as they will come up on your oral exam. Your CFI will go over those with you as well. Bottom line, I wouldn't recommend taking the exam again.

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ApatheticSkyentist@reddit

I also passed my PPL written with a 70% about 15 years ago. No one has ever asked me about it other than my PPL DPE.

One attempt resulting in a pass, regardless of %, is infinitely better than having a failure on your record.

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External-Summer-7379@reddit

NOPE!

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cpav8r@reddit

The oral portion of your checkride will be onerous. You might want to try again.

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Independent-Ad-2324@reddit

Honestly, no. Got a similar mark in my PPL, no one bats an eye. The first aviation exam/license is always the hardest imo as it’s very new and unfamiliar to you.

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VileInventor@reddit

It doesn’t matter but you’ll be grilled hard during your checkride for the line items you missed. Study hard the concepts you didn’t get right. Every question you miss on the written shows up on the oral.

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rFlyingTower@reddit

This is a copy of the original post body for posterity:

I studied my butt off for this exam and thought I was super prepared for it but once the exam started I quickly noticed all the questions I were getting were only somewhat familiar, extremely wordy, or just way too similar of answer choices. I’m glad I passed, but with scoring a 70% will this look bad for me come check ride/ oral time?

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