Life in DFW is so beautiful.
Posted by Tchaik748@reddit | Dallas | View on Reddit | 271 comments
Taken this morning on the 75N to 635W ramp.
Why would anyone want trains over this?!
(#SaveDART)
carnavalero@reddit
Here’s an idea, maybe actually TAKE THE DART
AvailableReporter484@reddit
Don’t worry, only 800 more years and 900 trillion dollars spent on i35 expansions will finally solve the traffic problem in Texas once and for all! Lmfao
Trespeon@reddit
Just one lane bro, just one more.
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
Please, bro. Trust me, bro.
zughzz@reddit
I can’t roll my eyes harder when people say adding another lane is the main and only solution to our traffic
Competitive-Net-3393@reddit
Houston is a testament that that shit don't work. 7 lanes at the most extreme over there and you'll still manage to be sitting next to 6 lanes of stopped or barely moving traffic.
AvailableReporter484@reddit
What, and fund some kind of communist public transit system that’ll only be used as a toilet for homeless people and a place to indoctrinate our children into becoming trans?!
No sir, no ma’am 🤠
McRocketpants@reddit
You forgot your /s
AvailableReporter484@reddit
Nah. I only cater to real posters who can discern extremely subtle satire like that lmfao
gcoz2000@reddit
Trains. They'll turn the kids into trains sexuals, of course.
grendus@reddit
If we had more train sexuals, would we finally have enough public transit that we wouldn't have traffic jams?
Because if that's the gay agenda, I'm not opposed.
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
One thing's for sure.. if vaccines caused autism, every state would have high speed rail lolol
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
Trainsexuals.
However worried you are, you are not worried enough.
Danyboii@reddit
People would be more willing to take public transit if it wasn't a dumpster for homeless people. Money won't fix this. They need to be committed.
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Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
Thank you for posting this.
Pumpnethyl@reddit
Yeah! Who needs publicly funded transportation networks!! Commies. I’m sticking to the roads!!
AvailableReporter484@reddit
I want my roads to be diesel powered tbh because owning the libs is the only thing worth living for.
Difficult_Fondant580@reddit
Do you know how TexDOT knows when to start construction on I-35? As soon as the current project ends. In the nearly 40 years that I have lived in DFW area, only about 5 days had no construction on I-35 somewhere.
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
But think of how money the contractor (whose brother works in the state Senate) has made over those 40 years!¡!
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
Just one more lane, bro.
One lane will fix it.
AvailableReporter484@reddit
Just wait till they make an even more Texas edition F150 that will render extra lanes useless 🇺🇸
stinky_flowers@reddit
We're doing that currently in San Antonio. Its a never ending nightmare.
tristand666@reddit
In this rare photo we do not see the commonly encountered orange cone.
3-DMan@reddit
All you can do is leave early, crank 91.7, and blow a kiss to the hot Northpark billboard girl as you inch your way to downtown...
IcedCowboyCoffee@reddit
My planet DFW is so beautiful when the sun is low... Rolling over the interchange ramps, you can see particulate matter in the air
Greedy_Shame6516@reddit
beautiful.
JDSheldrake@reddit
Let the traffic flow?
Dawnzarelli@reddit
Reminds me… time to refill my puffer
Natural-Hedgehog1894@reddit
I just moved to dfw from Houston (to help family medical needs).
WHATS WITH $8 tolls and why is that garbage allowed… where’s it going and who’s it going to and what’s that money doing… In Houston I paid $1.89 max ????
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
Not to mention that those toll dollars are going to some private company outside the DFW area...
Natural-Hedgehog1894@reddit
I keep hearing this, and it infuriates me?
How was that ever allowed. You and I and whoever else… all live here screaming dollars everyday out to some foreign entity lol???? Please just say it’s a bad joke
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
Welcome to life under crony capitalism.
IcedCowboyCoffee@reddit
Toll express lanes are variable and can get crazy expensive, but toll highways (like the Dallas North Tollway and George Bush Turnpike) are fixed rate and much cheaper than the express lanes. I ignore express lanes and treat them as a sort of "only in an emergency" sort of thing because I'm not made of money.
truenorthomw@reddit
I realize the irony of saying this as a dallasite but yall need to touch grass, seriously. Life will always feel miserable if you intentionally choose to view it that way. Yes there is lots of concrete but there is also lots of beauty in this city that you can find beyond the infrastructure…
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
But, what if all of this infrastructure were reduced to 4 train tracks with overhead catenary, thereby allowing 80% of what's here to actually be grass?
My point is not that it's a miserable place, but that a better way does, in fact, exist.
truenorthomw@reddit
Oh I completely agree. I am always the biggest supporter of more trains and less lanes.
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
Thanks for fighting the good fight!
PracticalDress6127@reddit
What is wrong with you, this place sucks!
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
It's called sarcasm, my friend.
Motor_Ad8313@reddit
It’s going to get a lot worst! Traffic take the fun out of driving tbh 🤦🏻♂️💀
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
🚆if🚆only🚆there🚆were🚆a🚆better🚆way🚆
Working_Fudge9954@reddit
Since spring weather arrived I started riding the Blue line into downtown a couple days a week. The experience has not been positive. I simply cannot deal with the filth and sickness. The constant smell of weed. Homeless people curled up in a fetal position with their pants down. It is depressing. I don’t blame the people but DART rail cannot continue with this environment. Work class poor does not bother me. But this is terrible.
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
I hear you. The city of Dallas needs to expend serious resources towards taking actual care of the unhoused.
jayybee202@reddit
This image triggered me.
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
So sorry.
NJB9891@reddit
I drive this exact route 4 days per week, though earlier than this pic was taken. What always kills me is how difficult it seems to be for people to merge in an orderly fashion - multiple times - over the course of the next mile from this photo spot.
Motor-Sense-269@reddit
People don’t understand how zipper lanes work
fancrazedpanda@reddit
Here a free thought process break down of the different kinds of people at a zipper merge.
Person A: Doesn’t give a care, zoom later all the way around on an outside lane and ducks in right before the merge. Doesn’t even consider person b or c. This person also doesn’t let people merge in if they are in opposite lanes
Person B: way to nice or self conscious, merges early, really has no clue the correct method. Thinks both person an and c are rude, lets too many people through if on the merging lane side.
Person C: Doing it correctly, maintains lane until the end of the zipper, allows traffic to flow correctly if on opposite lane. They think person a is an ass hat and person b is clueless
culkat82@reddit
Shit. I am B. So the correct is C? And I wont get horned?
bobsbrain@reddit
Don't forget person D that thinks letting someone in front of them will make them a million years late to whatever bullshit they were going to.
Motor-Sense-269@reddit
There is one ramp I go through in my commute where people do it correctly and it’s the one getting on Woodall rogers in front of el fenix. For whatever reason there’s never an issue for me.
BunkMoreland1414@reddit
It’s very unfortunate that it only take one person who doesn’t understand how they work - to slow down dozens and hundreds of other cars….because I’d guess 2 out of 5 north Texas drivers don’t get them at all.
Motor-Sense-269@reddit
Or they just don’t care and feel they’re more important than everyone else
3-DMan@reddit
"NOBODY GETS IN FRONT OF ME! THIS IS WAR!!!"
BunkMoreland1414@reddit
I hear your sarcasm, but it’s very easy to get frustrated with people who, based on their driving, have no business moving into the left lane of a highway at a time during their life unless they are unfortunate enough to be driving on a highway designed by such out of date standards that there is an anachronistic left turn lane.
suburbanista@reddit
Imagine how much worse people would be at it if they took trains and buses everywhere. It's important that everyone in the Dallas area be required to drive so that they don't lose the ability to drive.
Brave-Strength-6888@reddit
nothing says ‘beautiful morning’ like merging into 6 lanes of traffic trains suddenly sounding real nice rn
NoRecord3000@reddit
My favorite exit
IslandGrl76@reddit
A good public transportation system would solve so many problems in DFW.
Geico22@reddit
You can literally go to any major city and take a picture of traffic and illicit this same response.....
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
Exactly why we need to shift away from ugly, space and resource-hogging car infrastructure.
Geico22@reddit
I fear the infrastructure part might be too late. Self driving cars and taxis should help eliminate traffic in the future. Just need Elon to hurry up.
ernie19962@reddit
waymo. Elon will just mess things up and make peen shaped geo fencing, and move deadlines, and well, you get the point.
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
Hmm, good idea. How about, for efficiency's sake, we link these self-driving cars together so they can form a sort of caravan? Then, maybe, shit, we could, like add a set of guide bars they could follow?
Someone should definitely look into this .
billsauce8@reddit
Leave. You won’t regret it
JulianC_1111@reddit
I feel so bad for those walkable city folk. They’re really missing out here.
somethingnottaken7@reddit
This route is seriously sketchy.
ForzaFenix@reddit
I hate that ramp
Khale84@reddit
I will literally take Coit just to avoid this ramp.
NoPlatesOnMars@reddit
Or the Churchill exit
smoke_inyoureyes@reddit
this spot, highway 380 between Denton and McKinney and the 366 spur in downtown are the bane of my existence driving here
morri765@reddit
lol
goodkush421@reddit
Obviously since most humans don’t know how to merge, I really hope smart cars are normalized where they completely takeover when trying to merge because honestly, I trust A.I. driving at this point than another Dallas driver. I’m SO over all this stupid ahh drivers causing traffic
StationFair5095@reddit
you should be going north on 75. FAR north.
Prototype_Bstepper@reddit
It is beautiful… but man that dart really had me upset earlier.
Street_hassle14@reddit
Go buy a horse and move to somewhere up in the mountains. Stop bothering people.
Striking-Interest-36@reddit
I’m so sick of people complaining about the traffic here, don’t like it myself but I don’t piss and moan about it and post this bullshit either. Does it make everyone feel better to bitch about it online or is there some other nonsensical reason? Don’t like it the gtfo!!!
Aggravating-Mousse34@reddit
Are you joking?
telecombaby@reddit
Soon drones will provid snacks and hj’s to Dallas commuters. That way we can make even more money of rto
TKOTN123@reddit
Europe has castles….the US has QuicktTrips
Shvinny@reddit
Every day the median sings to me like sirens did to sailors on ships. 😀
A-Rusty-Cow@reddit
Come to Austin some time
HoneyIShrunkMyNads@reddit
Yeah like traffic is any better in that hellhole lmao
A-Rusty-Cow@reddit
thats my point lmao its worse
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
You're lucky, TxDOT has elected to raze entire neighborhoods to give y'all the same luxury of sunken express lanes. It'll take 35 years , cost 75 billion dollars, and not solve traffic at all (not to mention all the people displaced), but hey, it'll make the construction shareholders super wealthy!
babexo4@reddit
And folks keep moving here so clearly it’s a gorgeous view. They can’t stop
kitfoxxxx@reddit
Ah, the native automobile migration during mating season. Phenomenal it is.
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
Sir David Attenborough Voice
"The automobiles, eager to begin their rituals, scurry along the massive concrete jungle constructed just for them"
FailWhich890@reddit
I especially love the landscape of litter.
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
Breathtaking, in'nit?
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
Honored to have been able to document such beauty for folks who can describe it better than I can, like u/Suburbanista
Magnitude_Ten@reddit
That is who I thought posted this
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
I aspire to one day work for the Massive Corporate Offices of u/Suburbanista .
Alas, I don't meet their requirements of living 80+ miles away.
suburbanista@reddit
Unfortunately, we're on a hiring freeze until gas prices come back down, but you're doing great work.
We see car-centric reporting as a community effort, not something to monopolize. Thank you for driving change!
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
This is one of the highest compliments that can be bestowed on a person.
I may go drive the High-5 (with that newly re-opened lane!¡!l just out of sheer joy.
suburbanista@reddit
Unfortunately, we're on a hiring freeze until gas prices come back down, but you're doing great work.
We see car-centric reporting as a community effort, not something to monopolize. Thank you for driving change!
ranjithd@reddit
it’s called dallaspuram for a reason
Clear_Painting9711@reddit
Reminds me of Paris 🥰
Silent_Scientist_991@reddit
People wonder why my wife and I like to travel so damn much.
What's funny is when we're off to some great city and a local will find out we're from Dallas and say, "Dallas, cool! I'd LOVE to visit Dallas some day."
My wife and I just look at each with dead eyes.
Geaux_joel@reddit
Idk, I'd rather swim in Ray Hubbard than a river the IOC of all people said was unsafe for humans to swim in lmao
xanoran84@reddit
White Rock is the closer comparison to the Seine being that it's in the city. It's also unsafe for humans to swim in
No-Childhood7918@reddit
At least in Paris, France, you have the choice to take public transportation ;)
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
Oh yes, trés élegant
zughzz@reddit
Love how they destroyed habitats and possible housing to add more vehicle lanes ❤️ Now I can get to work in the same amount of time, but still feel worse about it!
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
Dfw was empty 50 years ago. 635 was built on empty land. Things were built next to it. People need to stop moving here.
zughzz@reddit
Empty land still has wildlife on it. I hardly see efforts for that type of preservation.
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
That’s because you told everyone that they were welcomed here.
zughzz@reddit
I didn’t tell anyone that 😂 I’m advocating for more public transportation & better zoning for local residents.
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
Even Tokyo has highways. Unless you want everyone to live in densely packed high rises, your mass transit system won’t work. People would rather commute in a car than live in the areas served by mass transit. Even you live and work in an area not served by DART.
zughzz@reddit
True, but Tokyo also has substantially more public transportation compared to Dallas. They have passenger trains, subways, bus lines.
People rather commute by car.. because DART does not have enough funding to reach everyone, and frankly.. feel clean and safe for families to ride.
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
And Tokyo doesn’t have land, only the Emperor’s palace has a decent yard. Nobody is giving up land in dfw to ride busses and trains. They’d rather have a yard.
5yrup@reddit
I'd gladly trade at least half my front yard if it meant I didn't have to drive just to functionally live in society.
I don't need to spend as much to operate a car and I have less I have to mow and keep free of weeds and tend to even when its blisteringly hot outside? Sounds fine to me. I'm supposed to see a downside in that?
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
NYC and Chicago are calling you.
5yrup@reddit
DFW already called me, and I already do live along areas with decent-ish transit. Why not make it better? Worried the train people are going to take a few square feet of your perfectly maintained Bermudagrass? Or maybe your more of a Zoysia kind of guy. Why does your lawn matter more than the ability for those in your community to effectively get around? And why do you truly think we can't have decent transit while you manage to keep your small useless patch of St. Augustine?
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
Show me one place in the US that has good mass transit that also enforces good behavior on it. There’s a reason people vote against it. All one needs to do is ride DART in downtown Dallas to see all of the irresponsible behavior that it attracts. Why do you think suburbs exist?
5yrup@reddit
Show me one place in the US that has good highways that also enforces good behavior on it. All one needs to do is drive on the highways to see all the irresponsible that it attracts. There's a freshly retired number on the wall at the Stars Center Plano that used to belong to a teenager because of the irresponsibility that takes place on our roads here in Plano.
I've known more people who have died on the roads here than I've known people getting even lightly injured on transit. But ooh you might get offended because someone was talking loudly.
I ride the DART a good bit. I ride it with my kids. I've had a few bad experiences. I've also had people hit my cars on the roads here, once with my kids in the car. I've had people pull guns on me on the roads in DFW, I've never had that happen on the train. The bad experiences I've had on our highways vastly outstrip the bad experiences I've had on transit.
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
Funny, I’ve lived here my entire life and not once had an accident. If you want mass transit, go move to where it is. Dfw is the size of the state of Connecticut, you can’t put trains and bus routes over an area that large. And even if you did, cars would still be faster and suburbs would still develop further away.
5yrup@reddit
What an incredibly selfish point of view. Hasn't happened to me, can't be a problem I guess! If you're insinuating its because you're just that special of a driver that you couldn't possibly end up in an accident, the vehicle Carter Heise was in wasn't at fault. You can do everything right on these roads and still end up dead. At a much higher rate than public transit.
I do live where there is mass transit. Let's make it better instead of continuing to half-ass it.
Why not? What's the logic behind that? If you can put trains and busses over 700 square miles, why not 900? Why not 1,000, or 5,000? Why is 700 square miles the limit of what's possible? Is there some scientific law about it or something?
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
Go look at Connecticut’s mass transit map and tell me how much coverage it has. And that’s a blue state where more people actually believe in the magic of mass transit.
5yrup@reddit
CTtransit is highly linked to the MTA, so that's like 5,000+ square miles of coverage of mass transit. That would cover most of DFW. So yeah, looking at mass transit networks in that area yes we could definitely cover DFW.
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
Dfw actually has more coverage considering that the metro and the state of CT are roughly the same size.
5yrup@reddit
Practically all of DFW is by definition urban. However, only 38% of CT is urban. Its a very poor analogy other than looking at square miles.
But as mentioned, if you look at all the area connected to CTransit (area you can get to by hopping on a bus/train in CT and never having to take a private car), its thousands of square miles and a similar size to DFW.
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
Only if you live on the south shore, the rest of the state is disconnected.
5yrup@reddit
I mean, sure, you're right, a state that's by far mostly rural doesn't have massive public transit. Wow what a big gotcha. Just ignore the several thousand square miles of service area right next door though and pretend like that doesn't exist, because a state that's mostly rural by area doesn't have extensive transit throughout all the rural areas of the state.
We're not talking about a mostly rural area my dude. We're talking about Dallas. Do you really not comprehend that Dallas is quite a bit different than Falls Village?
Makes sense such a selfish person would also not be genuine in their debates though. I'm done man.
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
Dfw is a combined statistical are roughly the same size as Connecticut. https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/byqfqd/connecticut_overlaid_onto_the_dallasft_worth/
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
So why not connect Norwich and Rockville to Hartford? DFW actually has more mass transit coverage for the land area. We’re just that big and mass transit typically can’t cover large areas. If Connecticut could cover ever town in the state, then you’d have an argument that DFW could do the same.
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
Decatur to Kaufman is roughly the same distance to Falls Village to New London. To make mass transit work in the same area, Connecticut ought to show us how it’s done, but they don’t.
5yrup@reddit
Too dumb to understand the difference of "urban" and "rural". Its really quite sad to see.
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
Yet you want us to build a train system after development has already built along the entire route that you propose, but can’t answer why Connecticut hasn’t done the same thing before development overtakes the land
5yrup@reddit
The rail lines largely already exist. Almost all of the new Silver Line was just reusing existing rail right of ways. DART already owns a lot more rail right of ways. We could have rail going all the way to Melissa and further. There was already rail service from Sherman to Waco before, the Red Line follows that existing right of way. We just need the will to actually get the rails up to modern standards and buy more train cars. But sure, keep showcasing that continued ignorance. Continue pointing out the more things you're confidently unaware of.
And get this, the busses can drive on the same roads we have today. Its pretty crazy, isn't it? We don't have to build new roads and stuff, we just need to actually buy the busses and operate them.
Too dumb to understand the difference of "urban" and "rural. Its really quite sad to see. Maybe one of these times you'll actually look these terms up and understand how they'd apply to this conversation.
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
Rail is for freight.
5yrup@reddit
The rail the Silverline runs on also runs freight on a decent chunk of it. The TRE runs on shared track. Its entirely possible to do both. Continue showcasing your ignorance.
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
And who built that rail? It wasn’t government.
5yrup@reddit
DART rebuilt a ton of that track, so actually yes it largely was the government after private industry left it to rot. A lot of those rail right-of-ways are already owned by DART.
Continue showcasing your ignorance.
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
Rebuilt is like reheating Domino’s Pizza and claiming that you made it from scratch.. Who surveyed the land? Who built the bridges and layer the ballast? It wasn’t Dart, it was Union and Pacific railroad long long ago.
5yrup@reddit
Redoing the rails requires resurveying. You're not going to just start building new rail on top of land that was last surveyed a hundred years ago.
The bridges are new, so once again no.
Continue showcasing your ignorance.
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
They didn’t build it from scratch, they just revitalized existing infrastructure. It’s not the same surveying that took place with raw land looking for a route with less than 3% incline because trains don’t climb up hills very well. And new bridges were due to US-75 widening.
5yrup@reddit
Entirely untrue. The old bridge is still there and still is in operation. They built around it when they redid 75 in that area. The new bridge is because this train goes to Cityline, its an entirely new bridge that did not exist previously.
The bridge over DNT in Addison was also new construction. It follows an old right-of-way, but the old crossing there had been gone for a long time.
The bridge over Josey Ln was also new construction. There was also a new bridge built in Coppell. The list continues...
Its incredible how every comment you make you say something untrue. Feel free to continue showcasing your ignorance. I wonder what untrue thing you'll say next.
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
You’re right, they did lay a second track near the existing track. I was thinking more about the Texrail that was built on the old cotton belt line.
5yrup@reddit
Too dumb to understand the difference of "urban" and "rural". Its really quite sad to see.
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
Literally the same land area. CT’s cities would be suburbs if they had DFW’s population and development growth. And yet they don’t fully cover their state.
5yrup@reddit
Population of all of CT is like 3.5M. Population of DFW is 8.5M. So no, it wouldn't look like DFW if you spread the people out in a similar fashion. It only has 40% of the population. Do I really need to explain how population density works as well?
Too dumb to understand the difference of "urban" and "rural". Its really quite sad to see.
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
CT has the ability now to get this done before development and population growth happens and yet they refuse to do so. DFW also could have built freeways and mass transit systems before growth happens, but they wait until the population doubled before doing so.
5yrup@reddit
Too dumb to understand the difference of "urban" and "rural". Its really quite sad to see.
5yrup@reddit
Too dumb to understand the difference of "urban" and "rural". Its really quite sad to see.
zughzz@reddit
More land doesn’t mean more efficiency it’s the opposite for transit.
Dallas is spread out, which forces reliance on cars, increases traffic, and is part of why DFW is some of the highest risk cities to drive in
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
It’s spread out because it has had rapid growth for the past 50 years and people want and buy big houses. Nobody wants to be near the irresponsible behavior that mass transit brings. You even chose to live an work by places not served by DART. You made the choice to drive. How long have you been in the area?
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
No, they razed an entire Hispanic neighborhood to widen 635.
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
Like they didn’t get paid for their land.
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
No. They didn't. Or at least not nearly enough for being displaced.
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
Where’s your source for this? 635 was designed in the late 50’s and wasn’t fully completed until 1974
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
here's an article about displacement for freeways.
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
Oh so the ones that were built because 635 was built. Nothing of value was lost then. Again we have tremendous growth. Go to Kansas City if you want to be in an area with no traffic because their population has stayed stagnant.
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
People lost their homes.
Are you listening to yourself?
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
That only got built because 635 was developed. And we certainly didn’t build new houses in that area when we widened 635
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
...of course development will spring up around a new roadway.
New housing is needed in an area that is experiencing growth, yes.
why is it "no value lost" when it is torn down out of supposed necessity?
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
Because we built other housing. We also destroyed an entire neighborhood to get Jerryworld built. Even had a player on the Buffalo Bills play a game there in what used to be his back yard. Dfw is growing and has been growing faster than anywhere else in the country. If we were to build a multiple stop spider web train system we would have to immanent domain a lot of houses to do it to. The reason we don’t is because autonomous vehicles will be cheaper than trains and might be a reality in 50 years. In that case roads will win out.
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
Yeah, and that was also a travesty.
Ever notice that it's always the poor neighborhoods that get razed ?
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
The same poor that want mass transit? Don’t care.
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
Holy cow, you are not a good person.
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
The poor get paid when immanent domain happens. I don’t care that we lost some ranch style home built in the 70’s because we had to widen 635 because more poor people keep moving here to escape poverty.
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
You are closer to being one of the poor you seem to despise than you are to being a billionaire, I can almost assure you.
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
You are 100% incorrect I can assure you.
shiggster214@reddit
Ahh yes, a picture of a freeway to represent the beauty of a massive metroplex. You can take an ugly freeway photo in any city.
suburbanista@reddit
First, we reject the premise that this is an ugly photo.
This is a beautiful photo of the cultural fabric of North Texas. This photo is intimately familiar to any of us who commute to work, see friends, go grab a cup of coffee, or do really any aspect of living here. Are we really going to say that an hour and a half each of each day is ugly?
But yes, you're absolutely right that this presents a narrow view of our region. It doesn't show the surface parking lots that mark the beginning and end of a fun time at friends at the bar, or the strip malls with our favorite grocery store. It doesn't show the parking garages where we had that first kiss, or the six lane aerial roads where we spend quality time in the car with our families. Most importantly, the residential subdivisions kept safe from crime and high intensity land uses like coffee shops and corner stores are nowhere in site.
North Texas can't be expressed in a single picture or pithy takedown by some chronically online person who only consumes trainstream media. It's a diverse region that makes every type of motorist feel at home.
suburbanista@reddit
First, we reject the premise that this is an ugly photo.
This is a beautiful photo of the cultural fabric of North Texas. This photo is intimately familiar to any of us who commute to work, see friends, go grab a cup of coffee, or do really any aspect of living here. Are we really going to say that an hour and a half each of each of our days is ugly?
But yes, you're absolutely right that this presents a narrow view of our region. It doesn't show the surface parking lots that mark the beginning and end of a fun time at friends at the bar, or the strip malls with our favorite grocery store. It doesn't show the parking garages where we had that first kiss, or the six lane aerial roads where we spend quality time in the car with our families. Most importantly, the residential subdivisions kept safe from crime and high intensity land uses like coffee shops and corner stores are nowhere in site.
North Texas can't be expressed in a single picture or pithy takedown by some chronically online person who only consumes trainstream media. It's a diverse region that makes every type of motorist feel at home.
rwhockey29@reddit
Complain about ugly highways and buildings with no green in sight.
Complain about people who prefer to live in a subdivision with their own yard.
HoneyIShrunkMyNads@reddit
That's why I live south of I-30 where actual culture, hills, and green space are
Dragooncancer@reddit
Having my own yard is fucking awesome though.
lukewarmandtoasty@reddit
I had my own yard once. It had its charms; even the yard work I didn’t mind so much. I like being around my neighbors and ecological diversity even more, though.
lukewarmandtoasty@reddit
Have you ever talked to an out-of-towner? The sheer number of mixmasters, highway lanes, and parking lots are some of DFW’s most prominent features. I have yet to have someone visit who doesn’t comment on it.
boldjoy0050@reddit
My parents came to visit for the first time a few weeks ago and they were like "where's the actual city stuff" because all they saw is highways and off/on ramps. DFW is not very dense, so often times you don't see much of anything off the side of highways.
LightsStayOnInFrisco@reddit
That's why I show out of town people Dallas within Loop 12, which happens to be the size of Boston. Take people into the sprawl and they're going to comment on the sprawl like the inland empire in SoCal.
Emergency-Ad-1695@reddit
That is the dumbest engineered ramp in DFW, besides the ramp from the SR TR to the DNT southbound
UnholyTrashPanda@reddit
About to make this commute
tptgtr@reddit
Is it? I’ve lived here my whole life. No beach, no mountains, not enough trees, boring hiking, and temperatures that make 9 months of the year miserable. It’s aight lol
HoneyIShrunkMyNads@reddit
Yeah if you live in the suburbs lmao, I'm glad yall are too dense to realize everything cool nature wise in Dallas is south of I-30
xanoran84@reddit
Who needs all that when you have the ✨ Mixmaster ✨
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
Why would you want beaches, mountains, or trees when you can vacation on the 🥰High-5 interchange🥰 every day??
Colejohnley@reddit
Seriously. This city has so much money. Where is the budget for beautification?
Marcush214@reddit
Alexa play Highway to hell by AC/DC
Barack_Odrama_007@reddit
A great example of WHY variable toll prices exist!
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
Or, and hear me out on this,
A flat-fare train that all these people can board...
frenchezz@reddit
Why would anyone want to share the road with someone who wants to take photos instead of drive?
TheDutchTexan@reddit
Beats getting stabbed in the neck just minding your own business…
ModRod@reddit
Bad bot
TheDutchTexan@reddit
LOL
Time and time again people like you don’t like the facts presented to them. Fact: People get killed on public transit. Other fact; In a car they got to get through said car first.
frenchezz@reddit
Right, because that happens infinitely more often than people getting into car accidents due to distracted driving...
TheDutchTexan@reddit
You got partial control over one of them and a piece of metal around you to boot. The other? You won’t ever see that coming or feel it until the blade left your body.
deja-roo@reddit
I don't know if you recognize where this picture is taken, but OP is almost certainly not moving at this point
frenchezz@reddit
They are on the highway, presumably at the wheel, they shouldn't be on their phone. Period.
deja-roo@reddit
Oh stop clutching your pearls. OP created literally zero risk here.
Nobody is going to give you a cookie for being a safety nanny on the internet.
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
OP here, can confirm my speedometer read 0 mph when this photo was taken.
frenchezz@reddit
Clearly you haven't been in a life altering car accident. Not asking for cookies, but if OP is gonna insist on using the same crowded highways he's complaining about they could at least follow the rules of the road and pay fucking attention. but hey #SaveDART amirite...
Bardfinn@reddit
Most autos have a passenger seat, as well
frenchezz@reddit
Weird angle for the car to be pointing if OPs in the back of the car...
zughzz@reddit
Whether you like it or not you share the road with hundreds of people on their phones. Get these people on buses or trains and you’ve solved your problem.
frenchezz@reddit
Correct, but maybe OP could have acknowledged they were part of the problem rather than just grandstanding. Meanwhile, they're just another person who chose to drive themself where they were going instead of taking public transportation.
zughzz@reddit
Thats true I agree, simply, get off your phone if you are driving. But my position is that people really don’t have a choice here for accessible public transportation, so they get on their phones anyways while driving.
It doesn’t make it right at all, but it also doesn’t invalidate OPs point. I think it shows perfectly why we need it. Because we should not see this behavior, and it is not acceptable.
(We don’t know if OP was driving, they could have been backseat, but just assuming they were)
soggyypancakes@reddit
I take that ramp everyone morning!!😭🥲🤣
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
I am so sorry
CraftedPacket@reddit
Whats the point of the post? No it doesn't look like southern California. No it doesn't have forests and mountains. If those things are whats important to you, you move and pay the difference for the increased cost of living which is typical of those places.
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
Nearly all of the people in this picture could fit in 2-3 trains (even the freight, on a separate consist, or course)
ZookeepergameLate724@reddit
I ride the train every day it’s a mobile homeless shelter.
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
That is a societal problem, not a transit problem.
ZookeepergameLate724@reddit
It’s a transit problem. They don’t have tickets and dart doesn’t enforce. Ppl don’t want to pay for services they can’t safely utilize.
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
But if we had a proper infrastructure set up to support every single resident of our city, then no one would be unhoused.
31770j@reddit
Skidmarks, skidmarks everywhere… 🌼
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
I noticed this too when I was cropping the picture haha
Emotional-Wasabi-519@reddit
now that's a pretty rad lawfirm
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
Notice that you live nowhere near DART or work in its coverage area.
_carnivorous_@reddit
I'm telling you we can't go a week without one of these anti-car people posting about how they wish Dallas was different and didn't have so many cars and roads.
Bardfinn@reddit
The bit you're missing is how it is apparently 100% legal & eminently accomplishable for government to build roads for automobiles, but somehow it becomes a decades-long snarl of red tape and legal challenges to establish a single light rail line that will carry the same number of people with 1/20th the energy consumption & pollution, on a reasonable timescale, and still won't operate on Sundays
_carnivorous_@reddit
Bro you need to get a life somewhere where they dont have cars. I'm not missing anything. Start up your own tree hugging anti-road sub and leave us alone.
Bardfinn@reddit
I couldn't possibly be a woman, right?
I have one. Not in the market.
Somewhere where civic planning isn't captured to a vision of transit from the 1950's, when the population of Dallas county was 1/5th what it is now, & the exurbs didn't yet exist as 'exurbs' - ?
Five point penalty, strawman fallacy
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
Lives in Garland, wants trains….
Bardfinn@reddit
Wants trains for everyone, so that i.e. people can attend major sporting events without being three hours in idiling / creeping traffic
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
CT and DFW are the same size and yet they can’t cover their entire state with mass transit. There are several towns (which would be suburbs on our map) that aren’t accessible via mass transit, and yet they don’t build the system to cover those areas.
Bardfinn@reddit
No they aren't. They have roughly the same land area; the utilisation of the land areas are different.
For example: D/FW Airport and the Island of Manhattan are roughly the same land area, but they can't cover the entirety of D/FW Airport with trains the way they've covered Manhattan. Guess why
When the entire state of Connecticut is a continuous developed urban / suburban area - the comparison will be relevant.
But there are many other places in the world with much higher availability of mass transit that Dallas / Fort Worth metro area, despite lower urban density. They have no problems in building out rail. And buses.
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
You can’t cover the area of DFW airport with trains because that would cause a runway collision. They do have a trains that cover every terminal at DFW however. And a bud system that connects the terminals before security.
Bardfinn@reddit
You're so close to understanding.
You're so close to understanding.
You're so close to understanding.
They also have a shuttle that connects to a DART rail line.
This is the population density of Connecticut
This is the population density of just Dallas city
Someone might notice some differences in land utilisation and population density & distribution
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
Connecticut could solve future transportation issues and their own traffic problems by building mass transit around the entire state while they have a chance, but they don’t. Wouldn’t you want a train to go from Decatur to Kaufman? Then why can’t Connecticut build one from Falls Village to New London?
Bardfinn@reddit
They already have.
Train service to and from Decatur & Ft Worth would be a good start.
Population 383. This is what bus service exists for.
D/FW doesn't need to build rail to a rural township with a population 20 times smaller than the smallest incorporated municipality in the metro area.
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
You’ve never driven on I-95 and it shows
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
You need to compare population density to Dallas Metro not just the city. Connecticut on top of the metro would span from Granbury in the SW to Greenville in the NE and yet they do not cover the same east west areas that 635 covers. Their transit system is mostly North-South they barely cover a 24 minute drive of Rockville to Hartford in a 61 minutes bus ride.
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
Name one in the US. The only places you can name are areas where land is scarce. Tokyo still has highways, car companies, and ferries that compete with the highway for long distance travel because land is scarce. Land isn’t scarce in DFW.
BiBbw_cpl_DFW@reddit
They never take their own medicine or move to where it’s heavily prescribed. It’s always some missionary type work in cities with actual growth. It’s like they can’t fathom the correlation between a state’s economic success and its lack of mass transit options. They do it in Houston too. For some reason they won’t move to NYC where it’s actually possible to run a fit profit car pooling service (that got shutdown as an illegal taxi operation).
Chemical_Support4748@reddit
I'm so amazed by the pollution in the sky every time I drive towards downtown
Mindful_Rager@reddit
Not on that ramp it’s not. I avoid that ramp at all costs. If you want beautiful go to WRL.
Dangerous_Term_69@reddit
Welcome to the concrete jungle 🤘🏻
yupyouredumb@reddit
Dfw is beautiful with what it has to offer. You'll miss the options if you leave to a smaller state and smaller town.
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
My point is that 🚆there🚆is🚆a🚆better🚆way🚆
yupyouredumb@reddit
Yeah public transportation? Umm no thanks. I'd gladly take my personal car and drive in Dallas without being next to many people on a traincart.
Electricdragongaming@reddit
Even if you don't personally take public transit yourself, think about this, you still benefit from public transportation being around and being an option for many many people here in the metroplex.
It gets drivers off the road which does help with traffic. If we help fund public transit more, then it becomes a viable option for more people that wish to take dart over driving, therefore even less people on the road.
Less people on the road = less traffic.
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
I bet you text while driving too...
yupyouredumb@reddit
Naw
tooheavybroo@reddit
635/75 the bane of my existence
bballjones9241@reddit
Brother, trains are never going to happen. It’s about 40 years too late for that. Just deal with it best you can
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
Yes, it is far too late.
But traffic will only get worse.
We must pivot from car infrastructure to rail infrastructure now.
zakats@reddit
JUST ONE MORE LANE, BRO. I SWEAR WE'RE GONNA FIX TRAFFIC THIS TIME WITH JUST ONE MORE.
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
Ok maaaaaaaaayyyybe two, but I swear that's it, bro. Please, bro.
Trust me, bro.
adambmr@reddit
Pretty soon California will be a lot easier to drive in
laundryman2@reddit
I recently got back after 2 weeks in Europe. This post hits hard.
Tchaik748@reddit (OP)
Don't you feel the freedom coursing through your veins as you breathe in the pollution and spend your commute operating a dangerous , heavy machine rather than having to figure out what to do with your hands on a bus or train?!
mattmexicano@reddit
More public transportation! Fap fap fap! Europe! Japan! Fap fap fap!
iDerailThings@reddit
So sad. A large portion of the people there have never seen rolling clouds off a mountain top, quiet rain showers in the forest, or a beautiful sunsets across untouched rolling plains.
Just clocking in and clocking out in the concrete jungle. Man...
zughzz@reddit
But look at the benefits! I have a mediocre plain grass lawn, that I never use, that I get to call my own! It’s a win-win. /s
Homey-Airport-Int@reddit
Everyone in this photo can drive less than two hours from that spot and enjoy the sunsetting over rolling plains. Or go to the great trinity forest when it's raining. Or drive a couple hours to one of like a dozen state parks. Not exactly out of reach.
Neutromatic369@reddit
I just avoid highways and has been learning the backroads around 35 and 75 at this point
Granted i WFH and I feel for folks that have no choice but to use these highways for work else they would be late
jmiller_dallas@reddit
Awesome picture!
SLY0001@reddit
disgusting society
Eagle0913@reddit
They took 4+ years to add another lane to 635 and it improved traffic by 1-3 minutes during rush hour!! Solved!!
/s
virgildiablo@reddit
I don't think I've taken this exit in like 15 years but I still recognized it immediately lol too many memories of getting stuck there in my black 98 civic with ac that was wholly incapable of keeping up with the morning sun
p8nt_junkie@reddit
might I recommend Concrete Jungle by Bob Marley and the Wailers on more than maximum volume and you’ll be feeling irie
Normal-Food-8197@reddit
WOW!!!😍😍😍😍 wouldn’t want to be anywhere else in the world
tls133@reddit
Thank you for this wonderful photo. I am thoroughly enjoying it while sitting at home enjoying my coffee. God bless you all who keep the city and the economy going as i watch from the sidelines. 😘😘😘
VellyJanta@reddit
Convenient law firm lol wonder how many people have been rear ended here.
Jim_Nills_Mustache@reddit
Ahhh, nature
g0atm3a1@reddit
r/urbanhell
virgo_em@reddit
I absolutely love Arwa and would go to the cafe regularly, except I have to take this ramp to go home and I hate so I only go once every couple of months.
burberrycondom@reddit
Concrete, concrete everywhere ❤️🙏
sooner_25@reddit
I lived at Marsh Ln/PGBT during an internship I had a few summers ago. I am back at the same company and found a place 10 minutes from work to live at based on my experiences with that commute.
Never again am I doing a commute like that unless I absolutely have to.
Popular-Brilliant349@reddit
Not going to lie the 635 exchange with I 30 is completed and it's amazing. Plus I 30 is complete that area too. I am happy it's fianlly over.
krollAY@reddit
I thought this was Suburbanista for a second.
Celcius_87@reddit
Beautiful photo. I've driven through that exact spot so many times.
BorntoRunSlow@reddit
Petition for this beauty to be conserved by marking this as a national park /s