I want to upgrade but I have no knowledge about it.
Posted by HeroinHalunkey69@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 16 comments
Hey, I want to upgrade my graphics card and processor, but I don't really know what's good and future-proof. I mainly use my PC for graphics-intensive games. My current graphics card is a GeForce RTX 3080 and my processor is an AMD Ryzen 5 5600 6-core. Do you have any recommendations for me? I’d like the build to be future-proof, and I want to be able to play upcoming AAA games smoothly on the highest settings. What would be best for that?
Dahkril@reddit
Top bang for the buc combination is probably 7800x3d with RX9070XT
Miilloooo@reddit
This is hard to recommend as bang for buck because he’d have to do a full rebuild and DDR5 prices are insane. DDR4 prices are also insane but there’s an upgrade path he can take that will yield the results he’s after at far less cost. That imho.
lamp7777@reddit
Do not buy the 9070 XT if you want to play at the highest settings. It can't do proper path tracing and has other issues while the 5070 Ti for example on a 1440p monitor runs them well.
9070 XT is only good value if you are willing to compromise on many features and convenience. It is also likely to age badly compared to RTX 50 series due to outdated hardware (missing FP4, SER, OMM, flip metering).
Your monitor is also excellent for MFG (which works very well on the RTX 50 series due to flip metering and wide Reflex support) which will keep you playing future games at high settings for longer.
If you can get an X3D CPU for AM4 series for a low price, it would be a nice upgrade, but I'm pretty sure the 5600 can keep up with the 5070 Ti especially with frame generation.
Muha_Bar@reddit
Try this AI: https://www.buildshub.org — just tell it the type of games you play and your budget, and it will give you the best build.
Crowley120@reddit
The most cost effective but with great performance and quality of life shit will be a 5800x3d 5070 ti this will perform good together and you can skip the expensive as hell ddr5 upgrade but if you truly want to future proof and are okay dropping a considerable amount of cash a 5070 ti is still fine but you can consider dropping extra on a 5080 and a 7800 or 9800x3d there’s not a ridiculous gap between those two CPU’s but you’d have fantastic performance in ray and path tracing 4k capabilities and Dlss for even smoother frame rate and visuals. The first option is definitely cheaper but the 5800x3d will slightly limit you in cpu intensive games and will eventually need an upgrade for future games. I have a 5800x3d 4080 set up currently and have a great experience only seen issues with cpu intensive games like escape from tarkov and marathon aswell as some emulation experiences
Crowley120@reddit
I’m not recommending a Radeon GPU cause I’m assuming you want to use path or ray tracing on 1440 p since you are playing graphic intensive games and I feel nvidia just handles that better.
ThatRedditBotGuy@reddit
Assuming 32GB DDR5 CL30 6000+MT is €350-450 (depends on where you look) and a mid-high range mobo is €80-150 (depends on the exact chipset and brand), I would imagine about €1000 would be left. The current RAM cannot be used in am5 due to incompatibility.
A 5080 I’d imagine would be at the very least €1000, which wouldn’t be a problem if only the cpu and gpu were being upgraded, but to get a realistic cpu upgrade, you would need to move to am5. A 5070ti is also an option but would be €850 at the very minimum, do I wouldn’t recommend that either.
Taking this all into account, I would get a 9070XT (much better performance than a 5070, can even get close to a 5080 technically in terms of performance in some situations), about €650-€700 though some models could be a bit higher.
The rest of your budget should go to either the 7800X3D or the 9800X3D. There isn’t an phenomenal difference in gaming performance, they are both absolutely amazing, but you will find the 9800X3D to be better in other ways, including efficiency, actually resulting in less heat production. If you can squeeze the 9800X3D, do get that one, it is objectively better than the other one, in fact it’s currently the best gaming cpu currently. But if the 7800X3D is significantly cheaper, and you would rather stick to a lower budget, this one should be absolutely great.
Or like this comment said, it would be better in the future when (hopefully) the prices will be much better, but then again, it’s unlikely to happen too soon anyway.
TL;DR - Get 32GB DDR5 CL30 (or lower CL if its not too expensive, but CL30 is fine) 6000MT+ - Get a mid-high range B850 (or higher chipset if not too expensive) motherboard - Get a 9070XT, absolutely amazing performance - Get a 9800X3D, currently the best gaming CPU, or if the budget doesn’t allow, get a 7800X3D, still an amazing CPU. - This economy is terrible and will likely last for another few years, so either you can wait or just stick with this.
SolidSnakeCZE@reddit
9800x3d with RTX 5080 and 64GB ram. That is future proof machine but now from my POI it's bad time to buy new PC so my suggestion is wait for better prices (RAM,SSD) and new GPUs.
With RTX 3080 you can play any title on 1440p and DLSS enabled so you will be ok for upcoming AAA games for a while.
ThatRedditBotGuy@reddit
I’d recommend this ideally, but not in this economy - 64GB DDR5 would likely eat up over half the budget.
crazyjerryyy@reddit
Real talk, 1500€ gets you a really solid upgrade from that setup. Since you're already on AM4, the cheapest CPU bump would be a 5800X3D — but honestly if you want proper future-proofing, moving to AM5 with a 7800X3D or 9700X plus a B650 board and DDR5 RAM will set you back around €600-650. That leaves roughly €850-900 for a GPU.
For 1440p high refresh with heavy mods, I'd lean toward the RX 9070 XT. It's got great raw performance at that price point and handles modded games well. Pair it with the 7800X3D and you should see a massive jump in those CPU-limited scenarios like modded Cyberpunk.
The 3080 is still capable, but heavy mods really hammer the GPU side. With a 9070 XT and a X3D chip, you'll be comfortably hitting 100+ fps in most titles at 1440p. Just make sure your PSU can handle it — 750W minimum for that combo.
goodpostfinder@reddit
As long as you don't need to buy RAM, SSDs or Nvidia GPUs (lots of caveats i know) then part pricing is actually pretty decent in my region (NL) at the moment.
It could be worth waiting for the 5800x3d relaunch that was leaked by some pretty reliable sources but not officially announced yet. That will be future-proof in the sense that it will last a LONG time before coming obsolete, but you will not be able to ugrade it down the line without also replacing your ram and mobo.
Pairing that with a 9070xt should give you a (\~40%) uplift over your 3080 and if you're currently CPU bottlenecking that will be even higher.
Assuming a not completely terrible price point for the 5800x3d (\~330) this upgrade should cost just under 1k euros.
If you want to upgrade now or want the upgradability, then the next best option is probably a 7800x3d but you will also need to buy new RAM and motherboard. If you go down this route, you will want 32GB of ram because the pricing on 16GB kits is even more ridiculous than 32 right now. The CPU+RAM+Mobo would cost around 800, if thats what you want then there is also this combo kit that gives you a 9800x3d for 850 https://www.alternate.nl/ALTERNATE/Upgrade-Kit-TUF-Gaming-B650-PLUS-WIFI-plus-Ryzen-7-9800X3D-plus-32-GB/html/product/1947936
In any case, I'd buy the 9070xt sooner rather than later because the price honestly is not bad right now and you can upgrade it immediately.
DrDamnright@reddit
Why are you looking to upgrade specifically. Any issues in specific games?
HeroinHalunkey69@reddit (OP)
Not any big issues. Most games still run flawless. But for example im playing cyberpunk right now and I like to mod the graphics heavily so that they look even more photorealistic. With mods the Game runs at 60fps with a few Spikes so I would like to up the fps again to around 120 fps constantly.
But the main reason is mostly a future Investment for the next 8-10 years
Miilloooo@reddit
Realistic upgrades would be a 5070ti or a 5080 and then upgrade your CPU to a 5800x3d when AMD re releases them later this year. You wouldn’t have to upgrade your motherboard if you did this route. You may need to upgrade your psu. If you only have 16gb ram you’d want to upgrade that to 32gb.
teaHyte@reddit
Yeah first start with the budget mate and if possible give us at least your monitor resolution.
HeroinHalunkey69@reddit (OP)
Sorry. I added my monitor and my budget to the thread now