If I can give you any advice, it's to not listen to anyone on Reddit for PC hardware advice.
Posted by Dependent_Wafer3866@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 83 comments
The quality of the posts is not just poor, nine times out of ten it's straight up misleading. Let's analyze this thread today, but really it applies to any thread you click on.
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/1sy2he1/does_the_cpu_really_matter/
One common theme is an obsession with "bottlenecking". Apparently any sort of bottleneck is unacceptable. The solution is simple: buy the latest and most expensive hardware. And that's the end of the advice of your typical Redditor.
The idea that maybe you should look at the bigger picture, instead of just the few frames you "lose" in edge case titles, and that you should maybe pace your upgrades until you're seeing a 50% uplift at least? Unheard of in the world of Reddit. Common sense elsewhere though.
Here are some brilliancies from the thread:
- I experienced an insane cpu bottleneck. I kept old hardware for a long time. I just replaced my i7 6700k with a 9800 x3d. I kept my 2070. My fps in arc raiders went up significantly. My gpu used to sit at like 60 percent utilization. Now it’s maxed at 99. It’s definitely real. -Mr_Hyper_Focus
- I have r5 3600, it's definitely not enough for single player 60fps gaming, or multiplayer 120fps - XenourXS
- I personally experienced some bottle necking by my 3700X with the 9060xt, so i upgraded to a 5800XT. Its not horrific bottle necking, but it was def noticeable in games like deep rock galactic, monster hunter wilds, and, surprisingly, elden ring. - WanderingGenesis
- I have a slightly weaker gpu (5060 8gb) and still get bottlenecked on quite a few games on a ryzen 5600g (similar to 5500).
- Yes CPUs matter. You're probably watching misleading content. I'd say even a 5600x and 5700x will bottleneck the 9060xt even on 1440p in a lot of cases. - mashdpotatogaming
- It does, gonna tell my part. I have RTX 2060 and ryzen 3500 CPU, I am actively running into CPU bottlenecks, specially if I want to stream games to my steam deck or do a few more things with my PC. If I got 3600 I would be in a much better place, but my RTX 2060 is actually performing okay for 1080p gaming. - notrealtedtotwitter
To be fair, there is at least one smart guy here:
- i'm a simple man. i see the word "bottleneck" and i ignore the thread. - itchygentleman
Be more like itchygentleman. If it's not obvious how horrible the advice given in this thread is, it's because a) they're wrong, and b) you gain far more upgrading your GPU rather than by keeping an RTX 2070, only to empty your wallets for an 9800X3D.
Additionally, midrange and low-end cards like a 9060XT or an RTX 5060 will only see a trivially small bottleneck with anything from Ryzen 3000 or newer, especially if you compare to the cost of upgrading, even setting the prices due to the rampocalypse aside. You're far better off directing your attention to GPU and monitor upgrades (which 1440p monitors have the convenient benefit of radically reducing CPU bottlenecks) if you want more FPS.
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kawaii_Summoner@reddit
Did you use AI to make a reddit post to say don't trust reddit posts?
X3m9X@reddit
Does it scream AI? It feels normal to me, more towards a English as a 2nd language (which im also a part of) type style of writing
YetanotherGrimpak@reddit
The even breaks/paragraphs. It either is legit and the person did really spend some time on adding them, or he just shoved a wall-o-text into an AI agent.
Since it's made every sentence, eh..... can be either.
Nazgog-Morgob@reddit
It's so 2026 to think no one can form a proper sentence or paragraph so it HAS to be AI...
Dependent_Wafer3866@reddit (OP)
You'll have to take my word for it, but I never use AI for writing, at all. Not even to look stuff up or summarize.
Writing has always been the one thing I've been good at. I actually got the highest marks on this literature project in my last year of high school, even though I was the worst of my year at basically everything else. And my classmates were smart people too, like one of them's doing cancer research right now.
pythonic_dude@reddit
Shame you suck so much at reading, because the very first reply left to the thread you decided to die on offers more nuance to the topic than you seem to be capable of comprehending.
kawaii_Summoner@reddit
The 2yr old account with 0 posts or comments on buildapc or any other PC subreddit, doesn't scream "chronically online redditor"
Also your posts from more than 5mo ago didn't use the same formatting as every post since. Just kinda weird to suddenly make a post like this without any apparent ramp up.
hayashikin@reddit
I write the same way as you do.
It's just ridiculous for good formatting to be immediately suspect, and I'm not going to change the way I write to avoid that.
YetanotherGrimpak@reddit
What I'm trying to say is, and I'm not pointing fingers at you, it does tend to be suspicious as most human-made texts tend to either break unevenly or don't have paragraphs at all. Kudos to you for the tidy writing tho.
CyborgDeskFan@reddit
This is just how I write when I'm trying to be serious about something ;-;
YetanotherGrimpak@reddit
I also try to break the text somewhat when the whole thing is big. But breaking it even at every sentence... Also possible, but also AI.
Fuck, we finally starting to distrust everything on the internet, huh?
Plaincow@reddit
Redditors hate ai so much that they just call literally everything ai that they don't like, including when legit artists make mistakes. It's the most terminally online shit ever
BlckEagle89@reddit
This feels like someone trying to drive a point across with a properly formatted text rather than someone using AI.
Sometimes I think like everything is AI nowadays for some people If you try to write in a correct matter.
Ub3ros@reddit
Doesn't seem like AI at all to me.
Dos-Commas@reddit
Is Reddit going to call everything they don't like AI now? Reddit have been slinging brainrot slop long before AI.
Matt6453@reddit
The penny dropped and they finally understood bottlenecks and had to tell someone.
kawaii_Summoner@reddit
The penny dropping was the last paragraph. I wonder what his 1% lows in cs2 are
pane_scoresau@reddit
absolute cinema
KingHashBrown420@reddit
Im not taking that advice man, i bought a ryzen 7 9800x3d and i saw a massive boost with fps with just a 4070
Laktosefreier@reddit
The real bottleneck is shabby code.
dualitygaming12@reddit
Like how tf2 spaghetti code is held up by the cow image on 2fort
adtrix101@reddit
Honestly this thread is a masterclass in how to waste money. The guy who bought a 9800X3D just to "fix" his RTX 2070 bottleneck is absolute comedy. He spent enough money to buy a whole new high end GPU just so he could watch a utilization graph hit a higher number. It is like putting a rocket engine in a golf cart and bragging that the wheels are finally spinning at max speed.
You are 100 percent right about the obsession with the word bottleneck. It has become a boogeyman for people who do not actually understand how hardware works. Telling someone with a 9060XT that a Ryzen 5600 is a "horrific" issue is just flat out lying to them. At 1440p the CPU barely even matters for a card like that.
It is wild how many people on here think you need the absolute latest chip just to play a single player game at 60fps. I am still on an older Ryzen 3000 series too and it handles everything just fine. Most of these "bottleneck" victims are just chasing imaginary gains because they are addicted to the feeling of upgrading. More people need to listen to your advice and wait for an actual 50 percent jump before they start tearing their rigs apart.
Vivid-Software6136@reddit
I paired a 7800X3D with a 7800XT because i hate CPU upgrades. I've since replaced the 7800XT with a 9070XT.
I wouldnt recommend that to anyone just looking for the best value system in the moment but it can be a valid choice if you are planning on a GPU upgrade in the near future.
JustaRandoonreddit@reddit
Don't diss my 3060 and my 5800x at 4k
havok3@reddit
I read that as “don’t DLSS”.. perhaps I spend too much time here.
adtrix101@reddit
CPU bottleneck is just a scary story we tell children at night.
JustaRandoonreddit@reddit
I even have my memory OCd to run at 4000mhz with a 1:1 infinity fabric for the 1% lows /j
It actually does 4400mhz but with it WHEAs
JustaRandoonreddit@reddit
Funnily enough, my cpu has both a 1900 and a 1933 hole.
adtrix101@reddit
If your Infinity Fabric is begging for mercy and your system is throwing errors like a toxic ex, it might be time to admit the one percent lows have won.
JustaRandoonreddit@reddit
Yeah I "dialed" it back to a "pedestrian" 4000mhz
YetanotherGrimpak@reddit
This ain't the boogieman you're looking for.
adtrix101@reddit
The boogieman is real and he lives in the one percent low frame rate numbers that nobody actually notices while they are playing.
YetanotherGrimpak@reddit
What about the 0.1 percent ones?
adtrix101@reddit
Oh no not the point one percent lows. Those are the tiny ninjas that sneak into your room at night and steal your joy while you are blinking.
YetanotherGrimpak@reddit
oh no
mashdpotatogaming@reddit
Love how you wanna pretend that any CPU is good enough ignoring the fact that, if you have an r5 3600x, a lot of CPU heavy games will have drops into the 30 fps nark since that's an old CPU at this point.
The comments on that post are right. You don't need the latest and greatest to run games, but you need something decent.
THE_ATHEOS_ONE@reddit
Fps will drop down to still playable level of 30fps?
Ohhh the humanity.....
mashdpotatogaming@reddit
Yeah good luck with a shooter at 30fps, I'm sure the drop to 30fps won't be insanely jarring.
If you're fine with framerate that's highly variable and stuttery, go ahead. But pretending like CPUs make no difference in performance as long as you have an r5 3600x or better is laughably inaccurate. The 3600x is usable on a budget build and will give you a decent experience but for anything higher than a 3060, you should have a 5600x or better.
Iabhoryouu@reddit
If I can give you any advice, just don’t listen to people on Reddit period.
_-Demonic-_@reddit
For real tho
PusheenHater@reddit
Sorry but can you summarize what you're trying to say? It's difficult to read.
My suggestion is just get a 9800X3D or 7800X3D. Nowadays CPU bottlenecking doesn't exist. 800X3D are just so good it can last a decade. What matters is GPU now.
Zee-Bln@reddit
Definitely nothing to generalize.
In competitive shooters and even in some strategy games you can run into CPU bottleneck for sure.
I have a 7800x3D and I am bottlenecked by it in counter strike 2 but to be fair, on a very high fps count.
Advanced_Ninja_1939@reddit
if you use unlimited FPS, of course you'll always get a "bottleneck" somewhere unless the game's CPU and GPU usage match perfectly with your specs.
Or because a game will be way more GPU or CPU hungry, you can have a "bottleneck" of your CPU if you play a 4x, and without changing any component, have a "bottleneck" of your GPU because you launched crysis.
In the end there isn't really a bottleneck, no matter what you upgrade, you'll have one component bottlenecking the other depending on what you do. just take the same grade of CPU and GPU (don't pair a low-end CPU with the best GPU available) and there's absolutely no reason to ever care about "bottlenecks". Unless you're going for something extra specific like 3D-RENDER, AI or things like that, but actual professionals that do that don't care about bottlenecking and won't care if their CPU sits a 20% while their GPU is burning, because that's what is supposed to happen. as long as it works.
Zee-Bln@reddit
I don't disagree. But it doesn't change the fact that in some games and scenarios CPU is the limiting factor not the GPU, contrary to what was claimed here.
Lord_Goose@reddit
I just bought a 7800x3d.
Good to know I didn't blow unnecessary cash. Why was that one of the cpu's you recommended?
I have a 9070xt, game on 3440 x 1440p (ultrawide) and will likely get the steam frame when it comes out.
shipshaper88@reddit
People obsess about CPUs too much (and buy too many x3d processors) but bottlenecking is a thing. Best way to see what any CPU/gpu combo will do is just to look at benchmarks. Sometimes a cpu will be a limiting factor, other times not. Sometimes the framerate will only be slightly dependent on cpu, other times highly dependent. It’s varies based on title and settings. It’s also true that money is often better spent on gpu but not in all situations. For example what if you have a 9070 xt and some am4 processor? In that case you might bottleneck on some titles and it might make sense to upgrade cpu.
But yes there is often a lot of bad advice in this sub.
Luminousbeing99@reddit
How are any of those comments wrong? Most of them are just saying they had a bottleneck which could very well be true. It doesn’t matter if you personally don’t mind having one. If you spend a bunch of money on a GPU upgrade, you probably want to get the most out of it. A CPU bottleneck would mean you’re leaving performance on the table. And the extent depends on the games you play. Obviously you don’t necessarily need the best most expensive one. But that’s why AM4 and AM5 are nice because you can upgrade just your CPU if you want to. Saying CPUs and bottlenecks don’t matter is just as bad and ignorant as pairing high end CPUs with low end GPUs.
Kergguz@reddit
I have decided to not listen to your advice about not listening to advice.
Beginning_Anxious@reddit
lol you don’t always gain far more upgrading your gpu. If you have a 6700k and a 2070 super and play CSGO or Val or Fortnite you will see a much bigger fps jump going to a 9800x3d than keeping the 6700k and getting a 5070ti lets say. In fact you will see almost no increase. Yes the term bottlenecking is overused but you should try and keep your parts balanced and build your pc based on what you are going to use it for. What is your point? That the CPU doesn’t matter? Like what is this lol
Cold-Inside1555@reddit
They prob talking about getting a more decent GPU with a cpu less than 9800x3d, rather than spending them all on GPU, it would be stupid to get a 5070ti to use with 6700k.
Beginning_Anxious@reddit
He used the example of keeping a 2070 super with a 6700k and said upgrading the GPU would be better. Which just isn’t true. But yeah I agree a good balance and building for the game and Rez you play is important. He also said the 3800x is okay for the next 4 year lol The 3800x is not okay for the next 4 years it can’t pair with any modern gpu without massively holding it back right now unless it’s a super high res and gpu heavy game. Dude just seems to be blowing smoke out his ass acting like he knows more than everyone else.
bromoloptaleina@reddit
I have the absolute weakest am5 cpu available (8400f) paired with 9070xt and I’m playing at 4k. I have not experienced a bottleneck in any game so far. Always 100% gpu utilization.
gazpitchy@reddit
It's fine to not want to upgrade, without trying to justify it to people on Reddit. You said you are chronically online, so you probably need to hear this.
Of course you will see better performance with a better CPU, call it what you want; a bottleneck, a giraffe, it doesn't matter.
ryo4ever@reddit
Sometimes people think it’s their hardware that is the problem. Half the time it’s the software. Windows is just plain horrible. Every updates break something or slow things down. Then other software needs an update because of it, etc.
Faux_Grey@reddit
Almost everyone ignoring the fact that basically any modern 'CPU' is fast enough, but the real neglected star of the show is memory bandwidth & cache architecture, which, in fairness, is generally tied to CPU.
It's not the 'CPU' in the sense you imagine, it's not the actual speed of number crunching, it's the speed that you can get more numbers INTO the CPU to crunch. We hit 5Ghz-capable pipelines back in 2014 with chips like the 4790k and it's been a slow improvement since then because we cannot keep a modern 4/6/8/12/16 core 5Ghz-capable CPU fed with only two memory channels while retaining instruction-set compatibility.
Your 'CPU bottleneck' doesn't really exist anymore in the traditional sense of "my processing core(s) can't keep up", it's RAM bottleneck. Your processing cores are waiting on I/O from RAM/Cache in almost every 'cpu bottleneck' situation when talking about a CPU made in the last 6 years.
Look at where the 'performance' comes from these days in consumer systems, X3D, cache, and DDR5 platforms running quad memory channels, now here come memory manufacturers to screw us over yet again with half-channel RAM:
https://hwbusters.com/news/asrock-introduces-hudimm-cost-focused-ddr5-memory-cuts-bandwidth-in-half/
The proof is in the pudding we are all actively eating - more cache next to your processing cores = less memory reliance = better performance.
DDR5 (non-HUDIMM) = consumer quad-channel systems = more memory bandwidth = better performance.
In one camp you have X3D, specifically AM4 X3D still holding up well, cache offsets the poor (comparative) performance of DDR4
Intel has obviously moved all their platforms to DDR5 which is how they achieve modern higher performance numbers along with a healthy cache implimentation.
Newer AMD generations on DDR5 fly along because you get the best of both worlds, large cache and high memory performance from DDR5.. I wonder why the 9xxx-X3D SKUs top every chart?
Everyone seems to have forgotten the early days when the only difference between a Pentium and a Celeron was the cache and it made a huge difference in workload/gaming performance.
Cold-Inside1555@reddit
Bottlenecking is real but people took it way too far. Going from 6700k to a 9800x3d with 2070 is one great example of going from one bottleneck to another and you are right about the final solution is only the latest and most expensive if they continue on this route
harrisrainy@reddit
Intel hd 4000 to 5600gt. And thinking of upgrade when I finish all old games I never ever experienced on my old laptop. Like upgrade to a gpu like 5060 or 4060 cause seen a guy testing 5060 with 9800x3d and 5600g and 5500. It was like 10% diff or like 60 fps to 55 fps. And not into multiplayer games too. And people here telling the op posted as an ai is so wrong I have seen the same comments over here for a past months
Sajgoniarz@reddit
It's hard to answer post because its equally right and wrong, because like everything - it depends.
"f I can give you any advice, it's to not listen to anyone on Reddit for PC hardware advice. " - The post you are referring to also caught my eye, not because of the topic, but because of lack of context.
There are dozens posts here daily that have good enough context to solve someones problem, but a lot of them don't and... then people try to do their best trying to help the OP, even when they are lacking information.
Bottlenecking is real, especially if you upgrade 10 year old PC, what is quite common on this subreddit.
GGeryx@reddit
Not everything is black and white. You are right that "bottleneck" is sometimes misused, however it all depends on what and how you want to play. (resolution/framerate target, monitor refresh rate etc) There are also use cases beyond gaming.
You name shame random redditors without actually contributing anything to healthy discussion yourself.
You don't encourage advisors to ask what the computer will be used for, you just took the stance of "GPU upgrade more valuable" and are pretending that high refresh rate eSports titles and unoptimized unity messes such as Tarkov and Rust or god forbid simulator games are some ultra-niche edge cases. There is also using your PC for productivity, streaming etc.
Of course not every "bottleneck comment" is good advice, but the key takeaway is stop treatinf PC building advice as some rigid universal law. There are so, SO many use cases and preferences. Ask what games people play, what other uses the computer has, what monitor they have, and what their budget is.
If you truly cared about the quality of posts you would encourage healthier discussion instead of making a post dunking on one side of the community.
Equivalent_Age8406@reddit
i agree that a gpu upgrade will nearly always be more beneficial than a cpu upgrade but at a certain point there will be a bottleneck. i have a ancient 5820k and gtx 1080, it will still run everything at 60 fps one way or another except the 3 games that require rt and maybe borderlands 4, but at this point putting a new gpu in is not worth it. my 1080 is dying extremely slowly, like i get some artifacting or a blank screen once every 6 months lol. if it dies before im able to do a full upgrade i might just stick a second hand 2060s in there or something.
shaolinmaru@reddit
"future-proofing" is what gets me all the time.
IlikeJG@reddit
It's not that hard: If people on reddit are talking about buying improvements to already powerful and keep PC systems, it's probably not advice that applies to the average redditor.
There's tons of different levels and budgets for hardware for different people. The whole bell curve. I would guess I'm probably somewhere in the center in that I usually go for good price to performance parts that aren't top of the line but can generally get the job done. And then upgrade it rarely when I need to.
So when people in threads are making comments like you linked it's pretty obvious most of that doesn't really apply to me.
But they could apply to others with similar needs and goals as those.
dantemp@reddit
I bought 3600 on release because reddit assured me that cpu will give me 60fps in any game at the time and I immediately found a game where my fps dropped to like 40. I felt completely lied to. I get that you can use 3rd generation Ryzen for a lot of games, but when you tell people the cpu is fine you should still clarify "in most instances". And if someone wants to make sure they are fine in all instances, they should know that they do need the best the market can offer.
S4luk4s@reddit
It all depends on so many factors. With a 9060xt and your 3800x you will be pretty cpu bottlenecked when going for 140+fps in 1080p in games like Battlefield, arc raiders etc... Only one thing I can agree on: Many people talk out of their ass, because they think they know stuff, when they really don't understand what bottlenecks mean and how resolution, different games etc impact a lot of things.
SignalButterscotch73@reddit
I've always said it and will continue to always say it.
Bottlenecks are mostly myth, not something to worry about.
Every single component of a computer is a "bottleneck" even the wiring of your home is a "bottleneck"
Change game settings and you can move the "bottleneck" from cpu to gpu in many cases. Its an irrelevant nonsense only the ignorant are obsessed with.
Have at least the minimum requirements for the game and change settings to provide the best experience you can have with your hardware and enjoy great games.
Intranetusa@reddit
I used to have an overclocked and delidded i7-4790K with an RX6600. It was basically a perfectly balanced CPU and GPU setup with both CPU and GPU utilization both hitting over 90%+ in most games.
BlownCamaro@reddit
Allow me to make your post more relevant:
If I can give you any advice, it's to not listen to anyone on Reddit
vIKz2@reddit
I don’t agree with anything you said at all. CPU bottlenecking is a real thing and if you care about achieving consistent 144 or even better 240 FPS even in less demanding games like CS2 and the like, then it’s imo a no brainer to buy anything else other than an X3D CPU.
At least here in Sweden the 7800X3D can be had for like 390 USD and the 9800X3D for 450 USD. That is LESS than the current price of a standard 32 GB DDR5 RAM (that you basically don’t need to care about if you have an X3D processor). We’re taking 450 USD for THE BEST gaming processor ever made. It can literally double your FPS vs something like a 5800X on multiplayer games. The 1% lows are a lot better.
Compare this to the best GPU the 5090 which at least here costs over 3000 USD. And with the right settings and game in 4K you can get that card to go below 60 FPS if you really try. So it’s horrible price to performance, compared to the CPU where the best of the best costs a couple hundred bucks more than the mid range.
In general you should match your CPU and GPU as well as you can. Or get an X3D CPU and then upgrade the GPU more often instead when prices normalize. I miss my 3080 that I paid MSRP 800 USD for. Now the 5080 which isn’t even twice as fast 6 years later costs 1500 USD…
siegsage@reddit
according to your advice, I should disregard it. but then I follow your advice. quite the paradox
Snakefishin@reddit
Unironically the biggest bottleneck for 95% of people's systems is realistically a better monitor or a second monitor. Those two changes are the best, most durable, and most cost-effective upgrade you can perform to make PC gaming more enjoyable.
AstarothSquirrel@reddit
When people start harping on about bottleneck I direct them to play factorio or the original settlers so that they can understand what a bottleneck actually is.
ArgonTheEvil@reddit
CPU bottlenecks are only relevant if it results in poor frame pacing that shows up in heavy visible stuttering.
Lot of people also don’t realize they’re sometimes hitting a game engine bottleneck. I’ll give you an extreme example: Ark Survival Evolved. Around my base I would only ever get around 30-35 fps, regardless of the settings I would change.
You can call it a CPU bottleneck but the reality is that it’s choking on a single CPU thread because that modified version of UE4 wasn’t capable of asynchronous compute or offloading texture streaming, netcode, or other client side operations to other threads. You had a single world thread, so it all comes down to your clock speed .. OR your L3 cache.
I made the unusual upgrade of going from a 5600X to a 5800X3D at the time, and noticed with an RTX 3070 at the time, it nearly doubled my fps in that game - at my base specifically. Again, while upgrading the CPU alleviated the “bottleneck” the fault is with the game engine not the 5600X. Because in games like AC Odyssey or Dying Light 2, there was next to zero performance difference between the two CPUs.
Your choices of hardware should always take into account what games you primarily play rather than arbitrary benchmarks from tech sites or YouTubers.
Powerful-Ad2869@reddit
“You gain far more upgrading your GPU rather than by keeping an RTX 2070, only to empty you wallets for a 9800X3D”
Not every game is GPU bound and not everybody plays AAA titles. Some of us only play a few games for over 15 years which happen to be all CPU bound.
If anything, the guy keeping his RTX 2070 and bought a 9800X3D knows his priorities and what he needs rsther than just. “Balance out your GPU and CPU” when in fact Bottlenecking heavily depends on the games you play.
c0rtec@reddit
OP is bottlenecked.
assholejudger954@reddit
I've noticed that every single subreddit designed to help, (pcbuildhelp, buildapc, computerhelp etc) are filled with mostly people who only sort of know what they're talking about at best. Lots of misinformation, and regurgitated ideas from whatever techyoutuber they've been watching. (I say this admitting that my knowledge of troubleshooting PCs is at about this same level. But I at least know when to keep my mouth shut when I don't actually know anything)
Most knowledgeable people I've found are all on r/pcmasterrace but I imagine an influx of people asking for help would soon turn it into an even bigger cesspool resulting in bans
CChargeDD@reddit
any solution in mind ?
thingsforyourhead@reddit
Its pretty simple. Buy the best shit you can afford at the time you buy it.
ragebait_hater@reddit
It depends on the game too though. For example e-sports games can easily be limited by cpu. Some time ago I did an upgrade from 3900x to 5700x3D, keeping everything else, and that resulted in 2x fps on fortnite.
bringbackcayde7@reddit
people are giving the most obvious solution without consideration of the cost. The most useful advice are the ones that provide the most cost effective solution. Telling people to just go for 9800x3d and rtx 5090 won't be helpful in most situations.
MrKvic_@reddit
Yes, the bigger picture is important.
To be fair, for some people those "few" frames in some "edge case" games might be important. I also bought 5800x3d (from r5 3600 + rtx 3070 + 240hz monitor) because of cs and horribly optimized pubg i nolifed back then and it was best thing i could do.
But i agree, shoving top tier x3d cpu to an average singleplayer gamer is stupid. Depends on what you want
koelol@reddit
I've read countless of times on reddit that you NEED a 5070ti at minimum to be able to play 4k and anything less you'd have to sacrifice quality settings. Yet I found video game benchmarks of Resident Evil Requiem 4k max settings hitting a stable 60fps+ on a 5060ti 16gb.
If you search for 1440p, lots of people are saying to get a 5070, or on older generations get a 4070 or a 3070ti. Yet I'm over here on a 3060 12gb hitting a stable 60fps maxed out settings with the only caveat of having shadows on high instead of max and no ray tracing thanks to lossless upscaling.
You're better off using youtube benchmarks of games you've played to find the right GPU, and also searching for videos that use low latency upscaling. No need to shell out hundreds more for a better GPU when upscaling will do the job unless you're playing online competitive shooters.
YetanotherGrimpak@reddit
Bottlenecks aren't the real boogieman.
The real boogieman is the ones we meet on the wa- no wait, that's wrong.