So much new info, how do I absorb it?
Posted by JacketRemarkable5764@reddit | flying | View on Reddit | 29 comments
I’m at 4.4 hours, and there’s so much new information it’s like drinking out of a firehose. I’m a quick learner but holy crap am I learning so much at such a fast pace. I just completed crosswind landings and stalls, keep in mind only 4.4 hours. What some things you guys do to help absorb this knowledge better?
Mrs_Fagina@reddit
Don’t worry, it gets worse before it gets worse
JacketRemarkable5764@reddit (OP)
Welp.
Ok-Selection4206@reddit
Every systems school is a firehose of crammed in knowledge, but you won't have to relearn how an airplane flies everytime, just how this airplane flies. It used to be 2 checkrides a year which were 2 hr simulator sessions with shit throw at you. Now with AQP and LOFTS the number is not as high. My 1st 15 yrs at my airline I switched airplanes and seat positions 3 times and took 36 check rides with some extras to get ck airman qualified. After 37 years 6 types and signing up for more ck airman training I am at 82+ training events, it never ends.
Mountain-Cut-7708@reddit
Seriously, it (almost) never ends. Every new rating, every new aircraft, every new job, it’s a new firehose.
Don’t give up, even when it gets harder, and it will get harder. Little known fact to students is you will go through a phase of exponential growth in knowledge, and just when you are getting comfortable, you will regress or plateau. It will be harder than it was before to get out of the slump, but keep chugging and you will eventually start to swim.
ShmupsPDX@reddit
cinema
TheSkyFlier@reddit
I’ve got my CFI Checkride in two weeks, and that’s the most apt description I’ve ever seen.
Lefty_Luck@reddit
Perfection 😂
manlilipad@reddit
Real
PollutionExotic7311@reddit
haha this made me laugh out loud
jcurve347@reddit
Understanding the “why” to any new thing you get taught should help it stick. Then if something unexpected happens, figure out why it happened that way. Knowing why and being able to recall helps retain things quite a bit better than jamming a bunch of mnemonics and acronyms into your brain.
So you did stalls - why did you encounter the stall from an aerodynamics standpoint? Why did you do the steps you did to recover from the stall? Why did you do the steps in that order? What would happen if you did the steps in a different order? Etc…
Rinse and repeat forever lol
JacketRemarkable5764@reddit (OP)
I’m just gonna say what I think and I can’t leave a questions unanswered lol. 1. We encountered a stall because we had to much angle of attack, causing the wings to not have enough lift which isn’t adequate enough to keep the plane afloat. 2. Pitching the nose down decreases the AOA, creating more lift. (Pretty much the main thing to recover a stall). 3. It depends on the type of stall we did (power on and off). And these steps are important because without the step before it, it wouldn’t work? 4. The wing would dip down (when I was flying) because I was in a slight bank and I instinctively rolled left, causing more drag on the wing already dipping down. But a wing would dip down because there is less air “sticking” to the wing already dipping, creating a stall condition on one wing. 5. Basically wouldn’t work, power on if I, somehow, pull up more before pitching down. You won’t recover and still be in a stall.
South_Midnight3904@reddit
Your responses are incorrect, Decreasing the AOA does NOT create more lift. Air doesn’t stick to to a dipped down wing. Please talk over these ideas with your CFI and he/she will be able to describe what was happening. Don’t worry you will get it but do your best not to learn incorrect ideas. What’s learned first is what is learned best.
DanThePilot_Mann@reddit
Same way you drink an elephant, one step at a time
minfremi@reddit
Absorb faster
SpiritFlight404@reddit
Chair fly the flights at home after the lesson. To refresh and keep the material in mind.
Read airplane flying handbook and visual guide to aerodynamics. To help think about the wind relative to the airplane and how you combat the wind to hold a ground track.
Keep in the books. Even if you say. “I’ve read this chapter before”. Do it again. You’ll be surprised how many times reading the same stuff can result in new knowledge.
It’s a long road. You’re not even 1% through the process. You have plenty of time to become a master. Start by becoming a good student.
Present-Village-9858@reddit
How are you able to practice crosswind landing and stalls at 4.4hrs? That sounds impressive to me because I am at 3.5hrs and couldn’t do the basic maneuvers well enough..
arcticslush@reddit
Comparison is the thief of joy, and everyone progresses on a different curve. Just focus on yourself and continue studying.
VileInventor@reddit
Do it more, read it again, realize you forgot it and then read it again again.
ShmupsPDX@reddit
Fly as much as you possibly can. study right after flights if possible, specifically the things you were instructed on during those flights. helps give context to the book knowledge and build those connections in your brain.
Mach_v_manchild@reddit
Lots of complicated responses, so I have a counterpoint. I tell my primary students that early on, I'm going to through ton of information/instruction at them, and I want 5% to stick. On the next lesson, I'm going to do the same thing and I want another 5% to stick. If you're expecting yourself to perfect everything on each flight, you're insane. The important part is to learn amd take something away every flight, even if it seems small and insignificant (I promise it's not)
My best students were the ones who learned something seemingly insignificant each lesson, and applied it in the future.
Imperial_Citizen_00@reddit
Wait til you get to Instrument and start questioning life choices, lol
Take in as much as you can, at a comfortable pace and do not feel pressured to rush through anything...that's how you end up DED...don't be peer pressured out of your comfort zone...
PhilRubdiez@reddit
Same way you eat an elephant. One bite at a time!
Don’t over study. There’s a tendency for some students (including my former self) to want to know everything right now and perfect. You might get the answers for the written, but it takes repeated exposures to the information both in book and in flight to really get things to click to the level that you can apply the knowledge. Take your time, ask questions of your CFI (we’re all there for you), and enjoy the training now. Next thing you know, it’ll be in the rear view.
rickmaz@reddit
74 y/o retired Delta pilot here: I remember my first trip where my Capt was on his final flight of his career, and he told me: I just don’t want to learn anything new on this trip! Lol
TxAggieMike@reddit
For each hour in the airplane, be disciplined enough to spend 3 at your desk studying and preparing.
Take lots of notes.
Use highlighter and sticky notes.
Don’t rush.
Work on deep understanding, not just memorizing.
Make sure you and instructor are following a well thought out syllabus.
Key_Math8192@reddit
You didn’t complete crosswind landings and stalls, you just touched on them. You will do them over and over again before you do them with the DPE. And then if you ever get your tailwheel endorsement you will learn that actually you were terrible at crosswind landings because every mistake and bad habit is amplified and suddenly kind of dangerous. I’m still a low time pilot, just hit 500 landings, about 200 of which were in a tailwheel airplane, and I’m still trying to get comfortable landing this thing in what I would have once described as light crosswinds.
But that’s how you absorb it all: except that things will take time and many, many reps (forget about 40 hours), be patient, and trust the process. By the time I did my PPL checkride I found that I was suprised at how much my aging brain had absorbed. They’ve really figured out a system of how to teach people with an average level of intelligence (and a strong desire) how to fly.
DifferentIntern6311@reddit
You could try dividing up your studying by topic daily. I would study weather one day, systems the next, etc. made it manageable for my brain and helped me process information easier.
HighVelocitySloth@reddit
When it all starts to make sense it becomes very manageable.
Canon40@reddit
You will never stop learning in aviation. You may not learn about many new subjects, but you will keep learning more about a bunch of aviation-specific subjects.
rFlyingTower@reddit
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I’m at 4.4 hours, and there’s so much new information it’s like drinking out of a firehose. I’m a quick learner but holy crap am I learning so much at such a fast pace. I just completed crosswind landings and stalls, keep in mind only 4.4 hours. What some things you guys do to help absorb this knowledge better?
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