Core Ultra 7 270k Plus vs Ryzen 7 9800X3D
Posted by jjsagritalo@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 13 comments
Hi everyone.. I just want to ask your two cents about the options in the title.
I currently have an i9-12900KS and I'm planning to give it to my brother to replace his old i5-12400,
Which CPU do you think is better? and which ones have better motherboards?
I'll be using the computer mostly for gaming at the moment.. but I'm also kind of into self-studying things like video editing, coding, etc.. but yea gaming mostly atm.
I have a 2x32GB 5600mhz ram.. it's not the fastest.. just basic.. I'm not sure if this will be relevant in choosing a CPU (whether either CPU will benefit with a faster ram or my ram is enough)
please let's keep this civil discussion.. If you have a different suggestion I'd like to hear it too but my budget is around those 2 processors
kawaii_Summoner@reddit
Watch Gamer Nexus' 9850x3d review. They used a 5400mts kit and it was 1-3% performance lost vs their 6000mts cl30 kit. X3Ds don't give 1 care about mediocre RAM kits.
Plus one CPU is hands down better at gaming, and you're building a gaming PC.
Dorennor@reddit
9800x3D.
BaronB@reddit
9800X3D is the better gaming CPU, as much as 20% so. The 270k is better at nearly everything else, sometimes more than 200% faster.
RAM speed can affect gaming performance, sometimes significantly. But 5600 is still fast enough to not be a major impact. And both the 9800X3D and 250k are surprisingly resilient to slow RAM. In gaming, the 9800X3D with DDR5 4800 is still more than 15% faster than the 270k with DDR5 8000, as the 9800X3D only looses about 1% performance between 6000 and 4800, and the 2700k only gains about 1% over 6000.
Beginning_Anxious@reddit
Only gains 1% past 6000mhz lmao. Couldn’t be more wrong sorry. Difference between 6000mhz and say 8400mhz is massive on Intel.
BaronB@reddit
13th, 14th, and the original Core Ultra 200 CPUs, yes. Massive gains from DDR5 8000 CUDIMMs.
The 250k and 270k, ~1%.
PixelPete27@reddit
the 270K plus will be better for video editing and coding. The 9800X3D will be better for gaming. If gaming is your main priority with the machine, I'd say the X3D.
The X3D cache will make the fact your RAM speed is a little slower less relevant.
Another reason is upgradeability. 270K Plus will be the last CPU to fit in that LGA1851 socket, intel is releasing a new socket for the next gen, meaning you wouldn't be able to upgrade that thing, except to the i9 variant.
Whereas AMD has said there will be another 2 chips gens, maybe 3, released for AM5. Meaning in 4 years or so if you want to upgrade, there will be a new chip for you to upgrade to. Intel, you'll be buying a new mobo for the chip, and probably RAM cause they'll be heavy on the DDR6 by then. AM5 you'll be able to ride that DDR5.
TLDR: I think AM5 is better value for you in gaming, and in the long term.
Imrahil6@reddit
I'm pretty sure Intel announced that there will be no i9 variant for this refresh, so 270k is it, highest in the socket.
Beginning_Anxious@reddit
Love that everyone thinks the 270k is better than the 285k lol. Same exact chip the 270k just comes with some things clocked higher out of the box. Just shows that one tunes their chips anymore especially not the people reviewing them. They basically re sold the 285k and everyone’s finally seeing what Intel chips can do when properly set up lol that and the much improved price is another big part of it tho.
Beginning_Anxious@reddit
9800x3d especially with the ddr5 ram you have as it doesn’t care nearly as much about ram speed. Or hang on to that 12900ks for another year and wait to see what this next gen of intel has to offer it looks promising. That’s what I’d do. Side note I’d make sure your brothers mobo can handle that chip lol
Celcius_87@reddit
9800X3D or 9850X3D
aminy23@reddit
The 9800X3D is the better gaming CPU by far.
The 270K Is the better CPU outside of gaming by far.
However for the 9800X3D and gaming, it really depends on having a high end GPU and low enough resolution to make a difference.
If you're not getting a very high end GPU, then you most likely don't need X3D.
chsn2000@reddit
IF you play competitive shooters or simulation-heavy titles (racing or strategy games for example) then the addition 20-25% performance of the 9800X3D might be noticable. In most other titles, the 270K Plus will be quick enough that the GPU will be your bottleneck. You may have slightly worse 1% lows or occasional stutters, especially with the slower RAM.
In productivity and other all-core workloads the 270K+ there is no contest. One of the fastest processors you can buy right now, and half the price of the AMD equivalent.
The motherboard is a harder one, because LGA1851 is a dead socket. The features offered by AMD and Intel's chipsets are more or less identical, minor differences in memory compatibility and overclocking features aside but nothing you'd notice as a casual user/gamer. AM5 is expected to have another generation, maybe two so you'll still have upgrades available for the next 3-5 years. If you go with Intel, you'll have to drop the $150 on a new motherboard as well if you need to upgrade.
How much that potential value of keeping a motherboard really matters depends on your situation, budget/income and when you might upgrade in the future.
I upgraded from a 7600X to a 9950X3D and I have no regrets, but if I were buying now I would get a 270K+ no question.
aragorn18@reddit
The 9800X3D is still the better gaming CPU. Plus, it's on a platform that will continue to get future CPUs. Whereas the Intel CPU is the last one that will be released for its platform.