I'm now terrified and curious to find out what the other CBT means. I come from a psychology background so therapy was my first thought....but now I'm morbidly curious
Just your daily reminder that Walther managed to make a striker fired, affordable polymer pistol with a great factory trigger that would/will NOT blow your cock and balls off (PPQ M1) so Sig has no excuse.
I have an EARLY model. Love the thing. One of my first handguns. It hasn't had any of the "fixes" for drop safe, etc. Ride the lightning, I suppose.
I've watched the unintended discharge videos, followed the AF airman who blamed the gun, then unblamed the gun for his friend, seen the RSOn video and it all just sucks.
I've tried the YT "wiggle the slide" and make the sear release, move the trigger 1mm and shake, and it's not ever failed. It never gave me fits, but then I never CC with it.
In spite of the fact that it's one of my favorite handguns, I still can't bring myself to leave it loaded in my nightstand like I used to, at least until the current situation is resolved/understood.
I like everything I've used by Sig, and it sucks seeing what was a promising forearm get wrecked by the issues out there.
I couldn't agree more. I loved all the 320s I have had over the years. Unfortunately my line of work said I couldn't carry mine anymore, and rightfully so, but its still hands down the best shooting stock handgun I own. RIP to a gun with incredible potential.
Pray tell, are you implying that I lack the knowledge, or were you pointing out the irony of him using that term while citing a federal department that non concurs with his stated assessment?
The Army will never publish anything that would demean our wonderful small arms supplier, Sig Sauer (who make the finest weapons in the world, nay, the galaxy), especially while they are getting these magnificent pistols at cost and tied up in the whole NGSW swamp. I support our Army's top brass, who in spite of countless people who claim to have used these accurate, safe, and well designed weapons telling them that they are anything but, continue to do business with the most forward thinking weapons manufacturer in history.
You’re honestly not very smart. You made a claim that the army rebuked the p320/m17. I told you they didn’t. Then you went on some mongo rant that no one cares to read.
If there was no issue with the p320’s and it was indeed user error, wouldn’t we hear stories like this about the p365? Don’t they both have trigger with zero safety? Why does only 1 go off?
I’m sure people have had ND’s with every fire arm ever made... There have been MANY stories/videos of non-LEO having ND’s in holsters with 320’s. Theres a shit load of 365’s out in the world, why don’t they have a similar issue of going off in holsters at a similar rate for the amount sold? Gun issue
Dude they’re selling these things for $220 and most of the gun stores I’ve been in recently don’t even have them for sale anymore. I think you’re in the minority here. But whatever keep coping, and enjoy your collection. Stay safe
If you think they are safe, you have no idea how PR works.
There have been at least a handful of cases where the pistols went off by themselves. If that was because of shoddy QC on a batch of them, or some manufacturing defect, Sig would've issued a recall and been done with it. The fact that they've spent millions trying to deny the issue is almost more concerning than the handful of cops who got a DIY vasectomy.
The trigger was pulled somehow in every case. I’m not going to reiterate since every actual expert has already spoken on this. Again, cheaper P320s for the well informed
Cmon bro you weren’t there for every case and neither were the experts. If there wasn’t SOME sort of issue then there never would have been the PR disaster
Bro, I’m not a P320 fan but at the same time Reddit is an echo chamber. Carry what you like, you’re not going to convince people that are actively circle jerking.
I think I saw this vendor with the X Carry version for a very similar price. Was tempting but thought I'd wait it out. Looks like I missed that boat. Hopefully more continue to trickle in.
I bought one of the x-carry models they had about a month ago for a flux set up and I really like the gun itself, just can’t carry it pointed at my junk after every thing that’s gone on. It’s a damn shame
If it ever got down to 150-175 I probably would pick one up just to have another fun. Sure it has major issues but I also think it was probably a very small amount compared to how many tens of thousands of these they’ve produced. There’s a 99.9% chance you’ll get one that’s fine.
That being said, Is that a risk I’m willing to take pointed at my penis every day carrying? Absolutely not. But it’s something I’d grab just to have another pistol for the range and keep it unloaded, and it’s 99% likely you’ll never notice an issue.
I keep one empty chamber loaded mag in a safe next to my master bedroom toilet. YOLO I have also shot mine lil over 1000 times with no silly business going on.
Making a Flux build sounds enticing, but when Poormetto is 3 years away from announcing another prototype at SHOT SHOW 2029 with an "estimated release date next year", I think I can wait.
The flux raider is a perfect use for these. I use my flux as a travel PDW and in that roll I dont keep it chambered since its a gun I grab when I have a second to get setup with it, kinda like back pack MP7 guy at the white house event, or its going to be static like on the end table in my hotel
Way I see it, the 320 raider is meant to be a bag gun, and if you’re deploying a PDW from a bag, you can carry on an empty chamber and sidestep the ND issue.
It’s probably the only valid reason to buy a P320 nowadays. LE trade in P320 for $220 like in this deal, plus a blem Raider for $377 on their website right now gives you a complete Raider for <$600, which is kinda insane imo.
Agreed, I love my Raider. Mine is crazy accurate and fun to shoot. I know if got it thinking it was just another gimmick and I'd never shoot it, but I was pleasantly surprised
Im in the same boat as you. If I ever do bite on a deep discount 320 ill basically just be buying it for the slide and maybe trigger with the intention of buying the Raider down the road.
Not just that. The maintenance on these are unknown. Parts can be easily assembled improperly or out of spec. Unless the person knows what to do to ensure everything is assembled and operating within spec, I wouldn’t trust them. New is the only way to go if someone is going to take the plunge.
It's still a used price. These things should be $200 new, that way you can pick this over a SCCY and at least get a gun that consistently goes bang, sometimes too consistently...
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SpaceCampDropOut@reddit
The price collapse of these have been wildly entertaining.
BZhang1016@reddit
It is not enough in my opinion.
wouldyounotlikesome@reddit
dang, might pull the trigger on a B&T BWC-9 now
Knightrider319@reddit
I’m done having kids, I don’t need these things anyway. In for 6.
Shadez_Actual@reddit
Imagine explaining to your friends that you choose to carry a p320
DoubleDogDenzel@reddit
Yeah but you can dual wield these for less than $500.
JucheSuperSoldier01@reddit
Hmm is this cheaper than paying for someone to come do CBT on me?
Terrible_Detective45@reddit
As a licensed psychologist, yes.
As someone who knows the other meaning of CBT, no.
wormraper@reddit
I'm now terrified and curious to find out what the other CBT means. I come from a psychology background so therapy was my first thought....but now I'm morbidly curious
Terrible_Detective45@reddit
Search for it on an adult site in an incognito tab
wormraper@reddit
well now. I knew I shouldn't have done that, but here I am...it's my fault
Orgeweight@reddit
Tell me, educated person:
Did it rhyme with, "Back Band Balls Borture?"
UnassumingAnt@reddit
Every day you learn something new is a good day.
wormraper@reddit
I'm not so sure about that now
Saudiaggie@reddit
Computer based training?
noobtastic31373@reddit
Cognitive Behavioral Therapy? Yes, it's cheaper than therapy, but worse side effects.
ServileLupus@reddit
Think about a C&B you have a bit lower. Then what the T might stand for. Maybe some women with high heels.
ServileLupus@reddit
Think about a C&B you have a bit lower. Then what the T might stand for. Maybe some women with high heels.
cheechmcgee@reddit
The seller here is high quality and reliable, the product on the other hand ehhhhh not so much.
WIFirearmsTransfers@reddit
We appreciate the mention!
King_of_Teets@reddit
320 aside, wistransfers is good to go
Nybravest06@reddit
Agreed
WIFirearmsTransfers@reddit
Thank you!
WIFirearmsTransfers@reddit
We appreciate you!
weJtiddeR@reddit
They are amazing, ive got 2 or 3 LE trade in Glocks through them and theyve been incredible every time
genuineissueoffat@reddit
You can blow your dick off for cheaper than that.
enixthephoenix@reddit
What if I said I had a vacuum for sale that could rip your dick off?
SadFinger3453@reddit
I told you not to bother me when im cleaning my room
admiralbuttscratcher@reddit
Doofy no!
grandcremasterflash@reddit
Is this a...pleasure model?
RogueCoon@reddit
There's high and there's low and both of them will rip your dick off
Robbbbbbbbb@reddit
I've paid more for less, so sign me up
seabiscut88@reddit
Prove it
FalloutRip@reddit
Are there, like, multiple power settings on that thing?
SpaceCampDropOut@reddit
Is it an LE trade in vacuum?
Ok_Crab_3522@reddit
All Dyson are LE trade in.
Spreadeaglebeagle44@reddit
Details? Asking for a friend.
Berry_Micockiner@reddit
If it’s not going to happen at Cracker Barrel I don’t want it
ArmFun4566@reddit
Just your daily reminder that Walther managed to make a striker fired, affordable polymer pistol with a great factory trigger that would/will NOT blow your cock and balls off (PPQ M1) so Sig has no excuse.
rubbercat@reddit
These were a terrible design from day 1 and it's funny that now even the most diehard Sig fanboys have been forced to admit it.
rrrice3@reddit
I have an EARLY model. Love the thing. One of my first handguns. It hasn't had any of the "fixes" for drop safe, etc. Ride the lightning, I suppose.
I've watched the unintended discharge videos, followed the AF airman who blamed the gun, then unblamed the gun for his friend, seen the RSOn video and it all just sucks.
I've tried the YT "wiggle the slide" and make the sear release, move the trigger 1mm and shake, and it's not ever failed. It never gave me fits, but then I never CC with it.
In spite of the fact that it's one of my favorite handguns, I still can't bring myself to leave it loaded in my nightstand like I used to, at least until the current situation is resolved/understood.
I like everything I've used by Sig, and it sucks seeing what was a promising forearm get wrecked by the issues out there.
sickels61@reddit
I couldn't agree more. I loved all the 320s I have had over the years. Unfortunately my line of work said I couldn't carry mine anymore, and rightfully so, but its still hands down the best shooting stock handgun I own. RIP to a gun with incredible potential.
DeliciousDifference9@reddit
When I was in the market for my first full size I almost bought a 320 but liked the trigger and feel of the pdp more. Glad I chose the pdp.
grandcremasterflash@reddit
In Soviet Russia, gun shoot you
Legal-Practice2445@reddit
Hold for 100
ij70-17as@reddit
^ this.
D_S_1988@reddit
I'd buy one as a historical conversation piece at that price.
55thParallel@reddit
Unironically would rather have a yeet cannon for $100
Cabooseisjake@reddit
Diamond hands boys
Not_an_alt_69_420@reddit (OP)
Diamond balls too!
Imgnitv_sQdWrd@reddit
Kevlar would be more appropriate.
Legal-Practice2445@reddit
“APES”
Heeeeyyouguuuuys@reddit
"STRONG"
Threather19@reddit
HODL
itsmyfakeone@reddit
Don’t think I’d buy even then
Revolt2992@reddit
If you think they’re unsafe, you have no idea how mechanics work. That’s ok. More for the smart people
metcape@reddit
“Everyone including the US Army is dumber then me”
Dunning Kruger be wildin
TotalNegotiation1182@reddit
The US Army still uses these, nor has the army published anything deeming them unsafe to carry. This isn’t an endorsement, you’re just wrong.
Diligent-Parfait-236@reddit
TotalNegotiation1182@reddit
Pray tell, are you implying that I lack the knowledge, or were you pointing out the irony of him using that term while citing a federal department that non concurs with his stated assessment?
Diligent-Parfait-236@reddit
Irony
MifuneCode@reddit
The Army will never publish anything that would demean our wonderful small arms supplier, Sig Sauer (who make the finest weapons in the world, nay, the galaxy), especially while they are getting these magnificent pistols at cost and tied up in the whole NGSW swamp. I support our Army's top brass, who in spite of countless people who claim to have used these accurate, safe, and well designed weapons telling them that they are anything but, continue to do business with the most forward thinking weapons manufacturer in history.
Revolt2992@reddit
It’s all a big conspiracy. You’re right, so smart
TotalNegotiation1182@reddit
You’re honestly not very smart. You made a claim that the army rebuked the p320/m17. I told you they didn’t. Then you went on some mongo rant that no one cares to read.
Revolt2992@reddit
Maybe listen to the actual experts.
metcape@reddit
Aye aye captain o7
ZucksSkinSuit@reddit
If there was no issue with the p320’s and it was indeed user error, wouldn’t we hear stories like this about the p365? Don’t they both have trigger with zero safety? Why does only 1 go off?
Revolt2992@reddit
You think no one has had a ND with a 365? Lol. Also, police aren’t carrying the 365
ZucksSkinSuit@reddit
I’m sure people have had ND’s with every fire arm ever made... There have been MANY stories/videos of non-LEO having ND’s in holsters with 320’s. Theres a shit load of 365’s out in the world, why don’t they have a similar issue of going off in holsters at a similar rate for the amount sold? Gun issue
Revolt2992@reddit
Except it’s not. You’re convinced, that’s ok. Most people in the real world disagree
ZucksSkinSuit@reddit
Dude they’re selling these things for $220 and most of the gun stores I’ve been in recently don’t even have them for sale anymore. I think you’re in the minority here. But whatever keep coping, and enjoy your collection. Stay safe
Revolt2992@reddit
Coping lol, you can get S&W and Glocks for around this price, too. Keep seething
Not_an_alt_69_420@reddit (OP)
If you think they are safe, you have no idea how PR works.
There have been at least a handful of cases where the pistols went off by themselves. If that was because of shoddy QC on a batch of them, or some manufacturing defect, Sig would've issued a recall and been done with it. The fact that they've spent millions trying to deny the issue is almost more concerning than the handful of cops who got a DIY vasectomy.
Revolt2992@reddit
The trigger was pulled somehow in every case. I’m not going to reiterate since every actual expert has already spoken on this. Again, cheaper P320s for the well informed
AndyMishandy@reddit
Cmon bro you weren’t there for every case and neither were the experts. If there wasn’t SOME sort of issue then there never would have been the PR disaster
Revolt2992@reddit
Sig explained what happened. Independent testing explained what was happening. Believe in the science, not Reddit neckbeards
skyl9@reddit
Bro, I’m not a P320 fan but at the same time Reddit is an echo chamber. Carry what you like, you’re not going to convince people that are actively circle jerking.
Shock-Broad@reddit
This guy is going to hear an rso scream "is that a fucking p320" in the near future.
ratchman5000@reddit
If you appendix carry one of these, you have balls of steel.
ComfortableOld288@reddit
Or you’ll have no balls at all
cyclorphan@reddit
Balls of copper-jacketed lead, perhaps.
calunicornia@reddit
Free with paid shipping coming soon
PercisionDriver@reddit
I think I saw this vendor with the X Carry version for a very similar price. Was tempting but thought I'd wait it out. Looks like I missed that boat. Hopefully more continue to trickle in.
WIFirearmsTransfers@reddit
The X-carry models were about a month ago and we had some x-carry grip module ones last week.
Diligent-Parfait-236@reddit
Do you foresee getting any full or compacts with an optic cut?
WIFirearmsTransfers@reddit
Not at this time. We don’t have anymore on order.
twistywizard@reddit
I still CC a 320 to this day. Lot of fake news about this. I stand by it.
bubblewhip@reddit
The fcu barrel and parts might not be bad for a flux raider or something.
FlapperGasfire@reddit
Honestly would rather have a Hi Point
Prestigiousalgea@reddit
How much longer till a PD trade in 320 is cheaper than a Hi Point?
ry_hy@reddit
*2 Hi Points
iFightForOurRights@reddit
38 of these available... "Do ya feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?"
alan_erickson@reddit
14 left, 24 sold. Good luck to the buyers.
Mr_Brown_One@reddit
Would an M18 with manual safety be safer?
LangyWayne@reddit
I bought one of the x-carry models they had about a month ago for a flux set up and I really like the gun itself, just can’t carry it pointed at my junk after every thing that’s gone on. It’s a damn shame
Coderedinbed@reddit
"Shoot your nuts off for one easy payment of $19.95."
eggcheeseburger@reddit
Great price. Good luck.
HyperbaricGasChamber@reddit
Memes aside, is this a good deal?
Not_an_alt_69_420@reddit (OP)
It's the cheapest I've seen one, and it would make for a great shitter gun.
crypto6g@reddit
If it ever got down to 150-175 I probably would pick one up just to have another fun. Sure it has major issues but I also think it was probably a very small amount compared to how many tens of thousands of these they’ve produced. There’s a 99.9% chance you’ll get one that’s fine.
That being said, Is that a risk I’m willing to take pointed at my penis every day carrying? Absolutely not. But it’s something I’d grab just to have another pistol for the range and keep it unloaded, and it’s 99% likely you’ll never notice an issue.
ztactical_@reddit
I keep one empty chamber loaded mag in a safe next to my master bedroom toilet. YOLO I have also shot mine lil over 1000 times with no silly business going on.
Shock-Broad@reddit
And I still dont want one
hitemlow@reddit
Making a Flux build sounds enticing, but when Poormetto is 3 years away from announcing another prototype at SHOT SHOW 2029 with an "estimated release date next year", I think I can wait.
BiggyIrons@reddit
The flux raider is a perfect use for these. I use my flux as a travel PDW and in that roll I dont keep it chambered since its a gun I grab when I have a second to get setup with it, kinda like back pack MP7 guy at the white house event, or its going to be static like on the end table in my hotel
Fearless_Roof_4534@reddit
Ngl I wouldn't want one of these even if you gave it to me for free
bearchaosjam@reddit
Worth getting one to throw into a flux raider?
shrf_buford_justice@reddit
Way I see it, the 320 raider is meant to be a bag gun, and if you’re deploying a PDW from a bag, you can carry on an empty chamber and sidestep the ND issue.
It’s probably the only valid reason to buy a P320 nowadays. LE trade in P320 for $220 like in this deal, plus a blem Raider for $377 on their website right now gives you a complete Raider for <$600, which is kinda insane imo.
atropinebase@reddit
Nope...not doing it. Nope.
10% off first time orders for the Flux.
No.
Sudden_Construction6@reddit
Agreed, I love my Raider. Mine is crazy accurate and fun to shoot. I know if got it thinking it was just another gimmick and I'd never shoot it, but I was pleasantly surprised
B-rex00@reddit
Me too just put one together from my p320 since I figured I’d never really use it again, raiders are actually really good.
razkalwp7@reddit
Define throw lol
speezly@reddit
You win
PinBucket@reddit
Yes, if it's the full size slide. Flux Raider is a legitimately good range toy.
EnvironmentalKiwi514@reddit
Have mine in a strike smc mk2 full metal and modular aim has them on sale too
ibnhall@reddit
I already have the flux legion, I just need the slide and threaded barrel. This is cheaper than any slide I have seen so far.
TheHeavyWeapon@reddit
Im in the same boat as you. If I ever do bite on a deep discount 320 ill basically just be buying it for the slide and maybe trigger with the intention of buying the Raider down the road.
CrippledKnicksFan@reddit
Yes even if you're only getting it for the FCU alone. Flux Raider is the only good thing about the P320
Heeeeyyouguuuuys@reddit
naw
1WontDoIt@reddit
You really should handle it carefully if it's loaded.
Ok_Prize_5130@reddit
Thats what I’m wondering for $220 + transfer.
BIGbudz808@reddit
Not bad for an alibi
ztactical_@reddit
Hold for $100
skyl9@reddit
Never buy a Trade-In PD P320. Only commercial stuff.
hitemlow@reddit
Well yeah, because Sig never bothered to differentiate the fixed models from the unfixed ones (surprise it's none of them) with a model number change.
skyl9@reddit
Not just that. The maintenance on these are unknown. Parts can be easily assembled improperly or out of spec. Unless the person knows what to do to ensure everything is assembled and operating within spec, I wouldn’t trust them. New is the only way to go if someone is going to take the plunge.
hitemlow@reddit
IDK who I'd trust more, a Sig assembly tech, a PD armorer, or a magic 8 ball.
skyl9@reddit
lmao. It would be wise to avoid altogether.
Background_Wrap9472@reddit
Can’t believe I used to carry one of these before even the first trigger issue was discovered. Glad my cock & balls made it out intact.
hondalawnmower@reddit
You and me both.
Puzzleheaded_Toe_595@reddit
YOLO in for 1 🤑
Supetition4rad@reddit
Now if it were a p220 for $320, I’d buy a few
AntiqueCandidate7995@reddit
Why did the police trade them in? Asking for a dead friend...
sarge5150@reddit
This is ALMOST at the point where ill say fuck and get one just to have
AbjectEmploy2385@reddit
I’m in at $3.20
bobbyboner1982@reddit
Almost cheap enough for the buyback program lol
SFOTI@reddit
It's still a used price. These things should be $200 new, that way you can pick this over a SCCY and at least get a gun that consistently goes bang, sometimes too consistently...
Tacomaguy24@reddit
Naw. I'm good.
MifuneCode@reddit
A small price to pay for a trigger experience that will make you rethink every "stock Glock triggers sucks" comment you've parroted on the internet.
high_drag_low_speed@reddit
Wheres an m18 for this price
IllSkyHelix111@reddit
lower
👇
📉
yirtletirtle@reddit
HiPoints are safer than these, boss.
younocallMkII@reddit
What kind of new age pain Olympics is this?
intent107135048@reddit
There are millions of these out in the world. Someday I’ll get a milsurp one as a range toy.
JakeAdventureHunter@reddit
Well well well
Justthetippliz@reddit
At this point I think Sig should pay us to take these.
Not_an_alt_69_420@reddit (OP)
I'm here for the followup post from whoever buys this and and appendix carries, then makes a post on the main guns sub about their vasectomy.
PilotPirx73@reddit
My local LGS has not sold a P320 I long time. I am resigned to the fact I will never be able to sell mine
jrk1213@reddit
Not X carry
Wild-Tumbleweed-1926@reddit
These come with shake awake free from the factory
Silent-Wonder6546@reddit
If only these were dirt cheap in California. Dudes still want damn near msrp for them. I'd pick one up to mess around with if they were this cheap.
Matt_matrix2@reddit
Nice try Satan
Heeeeyyouguuuuys@reddit
Nah I'm good
1WontDoIt@reddit
That's about $120 too much
i_hate_ketchup777@reddit
counter offer: you give me the pistol and $1500 to take it away.
awesome_jackob123@reddit
Would have been in for full size
Yotone718@reddit
Damn if it was only optic ready.
Quenz@reddit
Maybe $150 if it was optics cut.
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