What is the easiest way to leave the UK and which jobs would be advisable for this?
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TSC-99@reddit
Teaching - you can move just about anywhere.
PM-me-your-cuppa-tea@reddit
How's your maths and your desire for a work life balance?
Investment Banks have grad schemes and lots of mobility and sponsorship so if you don't mind working until 2am you could easily secure a grad scheme somewhere in Europe, especially as you speak French
I'd recommend really prioritising that French language skill, maybe a year abroad in France if you're going to uni
Beneficial_Effort595@reddit (OP)
I am not at the level for investment banks realistically, I was considering being an accountant but maybe not if I want to leave the UK
PM-me-your-cuppa-tea@reddit
That could work, look at audit at the big 4, they have lots of global mobility and you could. Do a degree apprenticeship if you don't want to pay for student loans.
Heads up during busy season auditers work long hours sometimes staying in a hotel by the office but it quietens down the test of the time.
jniensan@reddit
Funny I’d move to the UK tomorrow if someone would offer it. I know the gras isn’t greener at all but that’s just some feeling I’ve had my entire life.
I don’t know if working abroad is an option? We have many expats in the Netherlands in the bigger cities.
Dry-Letterhead-2902@reddit
There is limited free speech, high taxes for a slow broken nhs, broken education system, awful corrupt legal system which imprisoned an army veteran for facebook posts and the same judge let a CHILD RAPIST off with no prison, and the police are allegedly complicit in the systematic grooming and abuse of young british girls spanning decades. Many Brits are afraid for the country right now it is hard to recognise it.
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GrownDandilion@reddit
Get of socail media and try living in the community around you see what you think the UK is a great place when you ignore the forgien billionairs ecco chambers.
Dry-Letterhead-2902@reddit
Ive been followed home and sexually assaulted on more than one occasion in the real world in the kind of even you see on social media. Ive been looking for a job for a year but ai has replaced all entry level jobs in my area. Real life is shit here.
jniensan@reddit
Honestly the best thing to do was quote Instagram and stuff. Now I just have to quit Reddit as an alternative. If we would all just put down our phones more life would be a little bit more happier again I think..
MiddleAgeCool@reddit
Please do expand. What you're posting is not factual but Facebook meme hate against the current government, in part propagated by political parties seeking to win voters.
If you want to break down your examples, the "army veteran for facebook posts" is a very nice way of saying he was charged with posting messages referencing “civil war” and escalating violence after a high-profile attack and then plead guilty to publishing material likely to incite racial hatred. Just so we're all on the same page here, if you go to court and plead guilty then you're saying "yes, I did it" and you're then sentenced for that crime. In the case you've highlighted, he received 2 years for a crime that has a maximum of 7 years.
The comparison for the child rapist is another headline grab. The rapist was 14 and therefore is handled under a different set of sentencing guidelines than an adult. The case has strict rules around what details are released so while rape, we don't know if this a case that focused on consent or a violent attack. Given the sentencing, it would suggest it was possibly the former, but we just don't know.
> Many Brits are afraid for the country right now
Yes, but not for the same reasons. From that many, a large percentage are afraid right wing parties will win the next election and remove the basic rights people in the UK have today, as those parties have promised to do.
Beneficial_Effort595@reddit (OP)
I don't feel like for me, there is a future in the UK
HMS--Thunderchild@reddit
why out of interest
dbxp@reddit
Doctor, every country in the world throws visas at them
GrownDandilion@reddit
Op has been caught up in the socail media propaganda wars i doubt they are getting in to med school.
205tccPanda@reddit
According to some successful podcasters. Teach English in other countries like Japan.
And if you’re nurse, or related industry will be easier?
Conscious_Guess9637@reddit
Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan you can get working holiday visa up to 3 years then just apply for citizenship
Lordaucklandx@reddit
That’s not how that works at all…
Conscious_Guess9637@reddit
You’re saying it’s not how it works but Ive done it and know 7 of my friends off the top of my head who have done exactly that and that’s only in my immediate circle, I know friends of friends who have done the same, I’m not saying it’s not hard work or it’s easy, but if you put your mind to something you really want you can do it?? He asks for possibility, that’s where the possibility is.
Lordaucklandx@reddit
You literally said you then just apply for citizenship. That isn’t how it works nor do you just apply for citizenship. As a New Zealander that isn’t how it works.
FreshMontrealer12@reddit
Yeah try ‘just applying for PR’ in Canada with the current rules lol - good luck. It’s not that easy
Conscious_Guess9637@reddit
Ok I dunno about canada, only done NZ. It’s just the same scheme so I assumed as long as you have a secure job that fills a gap they’ll keep you! Maybe OP should go for NZ then
FreshMontrealer12@reddit
Yeah I assumed as well all the commonwealth countries would be the same but seems they all have different rules. A lot of people have come to Canada recently and had to leave because they can’t get PR and the work permits required after the WHV have very specific requirements and salary bandings so makes it difficult and impossible for some
Conscious_Guess9637@reddit
Yeah probably because actually canada is in a similar position with the UK (job market stagnation, property prices increasing, cost of living brutal) whereas NZ are desperate for innovation and workers because they lose majority of their younger population to the better paying AUS. New Zealand has just updated their migrant pathway to make it easier for people to get permanent residency for particular skilled workers
Rude_Trouble_4075@reddit
Become a teacher. PGCE or whatever. Teach in International Schools, be an expat. Food and housing are free, you have health insurance as well — you can save up then and also enjoy the world. Good luck!
MaximumTop6714@reddit
Only problem with this route is it takes 8 years and a lot of schools still won’t sponsor visas (particularly in the eu) because they prioritise hiring eu teachers. Ask me how I know 😂🤦🏻♀️
Rude_Trouble_4075@reddit
Go to Asia. It pays well and foreign teachers are sought after. EU is such a saturated market and they don’t pay well (including Russia). Thailand, China, Malaysia, Philippines, Indonesia: they are great places for British teachers. And 5 years isn’t a long time considering the benefits you’d have long term. Unless OP hates teaching, I suggest he/she would give it a go. I’m assuming you’re like me, an international school teacher?
MaximumTop6714@reddit
I’m in year 6/8, I’ve been looking though for what’s about ready for when my 8th year is up. I have an eu visa so I don’t have to go to Asia but I haven’t ruled it out also. Like I say, I still have 2 years to get a plan together and implemented. I was merely pointing out to op that it isn’t as simple as just ‘getting a pgce and moving anywhere’. It takes time and dedication, a wonderful job though for those who do enjoy teaching.
Rude_Trouble_4075@reddit
Ah, hello young one, I’m old so time moves differently for me 😅 anything worth doing takes time and effort because if it’s easy and simple, everyone would do it. Keep at it, enjoy the journey. Remember that European schools hire British teachers as a local so you won’t be paid well in Europe. You’re lucky if you can get an accommodation in your package. Go to tes.co.uk and look for international jobs to inspire you. You got this! My international teaching career has given me a lot and I would love it if young people had the same experience! Good luck x
MaximumTop6714@reddit
Thank you, I had taken your advice on board and appreciate it
0800happydude@reddit
Work in Ireland which you can do legally until you can apply for an Irish passport. Then emigrate to any EU country.
Beneficial_Effort595@reddit (OP)
Ok thank you
BillyJoeDubuluw@reddit
Just note that this is actually a little bit more monitored than people seem to immediately realise, so in example, if you were to suddenly relocate to another EU member state on receipt of that Irish passport it isn’t outside the realms of possibility to lose said passport.
It is true in itself that the Irish passport is relatively easy to acquire, but unless you are claiming your Irish passport via a valid ancestry route you are, in effect, professing to be settled in Ireland…
Ultimately, your freedom of movement on acquiring an Irish passport does go back to “easy mode” but there is nuance with this and so, unless you have Irish ancestry that can be counted, it really comes down to which EU country interests you the most and taking it from there…
The common travel agreement between the UK and Ireland tends to “flatter to deceive” and a lot of people get the wrong idea… by the time you’re eligible to apply five years have passed and, ultimately, the time frames to be eligible to apply for citizenship are similar in countries such as Germany and France…
Germany and France both have student visas and such… I believe Germany even offers very low cost university fees and people who have done their degree in France can be eligible to apply for citizenship quicker than the standard timeframe… so there are a lot of options to think about at your age and while Ireland is frequently suggested as the easy option it doesn’t tend to quite be the case for many…
infinitewowbagger@reddit
The Aussie one takes a few days provided you've got like 700 dollarydoos to pay for it and you already have a UK passport.
If you're trying to get away from something make very sure you have copies of copies of backups of everything and make sure some of those aren't at home.
Randomfinn@reddit
Five years. But you are supposed to be intending to live in Ireland when you apply for citizenship.
https://www.irishimmigration.ie/how-to-become-a-citizen/become-an-irish-citizen-by-naturalisation/
0800happydude@reddit
According to a quick Google, five years.
I would check none of your parents/grandparents are Irish/Italian because you can just straight up get citizenship by descent if that's the case.
genxerrr@reddit
If you want to leave it will be better to get some skills under your belt first.
apeliott@reddit
I went to Australia then got a working holiday visa stayed for a year. My boss offered to sponsor me for a work visa for another year and help me get a permanent visa but I declined and flew to Japan instead.
I met a karate master after I arrived and he offered to sponsor me for a culture visa to learn karate. I accepted, got a job teaching English, and eventually got married, picked up a permanent resident visa, and bought an apartment in Tokyo to settle down.
Disastrous-Place-846@reddit
Are nasa recruiting for the mars mission yet?
infinitewowbagger@reddit
As you're young enough to take advantage of the many young persons working visas on offer I'd look into that first.
Also there is r/iwantout
Beneficial_Effort595@reddit (OP)
Ok thank you I'll look into that
palpatineforever@reddit
trades are pretty good. Oddly tree surgon is great if dont mind heights. Quick to learn and while it doesn't pay high amounts if you become a proper trained arbourist or run your own business you can earn good money. Also once trained and a few years experiance, ie 4 years you can travel, do a couple of years here and there you dont have to stay in one place if you dont want to.
You can also earn a living pretty much anywhere in the UK.
It is one of the trades that lets you move to pretty much any country. Norway, Canada, US, Australia, New Zeland, EU. Even Singapore with certain experiance.
Beneficial_Effort595@reddit (OP)
I wouldn't be against it, I will definitely look into it, thank you
Lexcooo@reddit
Cringe post.
Beneficial_Effort595@reddit (OP)
Ok, you didn't need to comment, this is something I actually want to do
ckdx_@reddit
It matters a lot which country you would like to go to. Obtaining a visa varies wildly country to country and is no doubt the most challenging part of the process. The most common approach is an employment-based visa. Again, this varies significantly country to country, but broadly will involve you finding an employer who is willing to sponsor your visa. There will be costs to the company to do this, and usually this will have to be justified to the country’s immigration service. There is usually a very high bar for this, often requiring specialised skills or expertise, or outstanding achievement that you will have to justify. There is usually also some need to demonstrate experience in the field as well.
With this in mind, finding specialised skills and ensuring that you have the appropriate academic background is really important to giving yourself the best chance. Find a niche that is in demand, and become an expert.
This sounds overwhelming l, but you only need to take it step by step. Focus on getting a strong degree, and research visa routes for your target country thoroughly. This will put you in good stead.
quantum-dave-5734@reddit
Definitely a plane
Fluffer
Zealousideal-Air574@reddit
Probably car or plane…
ukbot-nicolabot@reddit
A top level comment (one that is not a reply) should be a good faith and genuine attempt to answer the question
jawide626@reddit
Boat works too
Beneficial_Effort595@reddit (OP)
But legally what is the easiest way to get a visa from a different country and migrate?
Weylane@reddit
Already having a job offer from where you want to go.
Salty_Tree_Monster@reddit
The most legal way to get a visa is to apply for a visa via the methods outlined for your country of choice
FreshMontrealer12@reddit
You could try to get a working holiday visa for the following countries :
But check out immigration requirements, they have a duration limit. Also, I’m just reading your comments, do make sure you research a lot too. Every country has its differences and it’s not all sunshine and rainbows
MyDadsGlassesCase@reddit
This needs to be top comment.
OP, you're young, don't make any rash decisions. You can milk WHVs for all their worth doing backpacker jobs then do Teaching English as a Foreign Language in South Korea or Japan.
Before you know it you'll be midway through your 20s, you'll have seen more of the world than most of your mates and you may even have settled down in one of these countries
Lysadora@reddit
Entirely depends on the country you want to move to. You need to actually research which fields are in demand, what qualifications are required and what the visa process is.
cannotbelievewhat@reddit
Teach english in any country.
Infinite_Use_6214@reddit
Tech was a good way, but AI will kill that. Doctors/ vets usually get visas and may be safe enough from AI.
Qualified trades like electricians, chemists, oil rig workers, undersea welders, pilots also are usually in demand.
It matters where you want to go though.
Beneficial_Effort595@reddit (OP)
Probably USA, Australia or maybe some EU countries
Rhiyxnnxh@reddit
EFL teaching (though you'd need to get a BSc and TEFL first) - I've just gotten qualified so I can't speak to how easy the route is, but I can now go to pretty much any country that wants English teachers (which is most)
El_Bastardo_Grande@reddit
Are you good at smiling and learning bits of other languages? You can become an air steward.
Beneficial_Effort595@reddit (OP)
I'm more or less fluent in French and I'm learning Mandarin
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