Pre-Internet Days
Posted by brinehart-cincy@reddit | GenX | View on Reddit | 147 comments
How is it that in the 80s, everyone seemed to know the story about Rod Stewart, (which I will not repeat here, as it is rude.) And the story about Richard Gere and the gerbil, (which I will also not repeat here.) There's probably a couple of other urban legends I can't think of off the top of my head.
We didn't have social media, or apps to spread urban legends like those, but I've talked with people who grew up on the other side of the country from me and still knew those stories.
They certainly weren't telling those tales on television. Were we just that effective at spreading gossip that we didn't need Twitter back then?
Head_Effect3728@reddit
1982: I heard the rumor that poor Mikey had died combining Pepsi and Pop Rocks, which I didn't believe
1985: I moved to a different area of the country and heard the exact same thing. I couldn't believe it was actually true since this many people around the world couldn't be making it up. I swore off Pop Rocks forever
1992: Eating a bowl of Life cereal while reading the back of the box. There's a contest where you're given a picture of about 50 adults, and the caption reads "Pick out the grown Mikey". Mind Blown!!!!
Historical_Monk_6118@reddit
We had tabloids, school yards and pubs
Historical_Monk_6118@reddit
Mark Almond
My mate Chis told me about that one but I don't think we can blame him for all of it 🤔
Fair-Wishbone-1190@reddit
And Gene Simmons with a horse tongue stapled on.
brinehart-cincy@reddit (OP)
He did!?!?! I never heard that one!
jjrox75@reddit
We used to actually speak to one another
SheriffBartholomew@reddit
I want to go back.
Barlight24@reddit
And do it all over
DeFiClark@reddit
The Rod Stewart story was printed in a music magazine and was spread by his former publicist Tony Toon. My friend’s sister had the clipping on the door of her room, title was “what’s sweet and yummy but not for the tummy?”
Wild_Read9062@reddit
I always thought the Rod Stewart rumor was mind blowingly crazy, and believed it… until I grew up, realized how ridiculous it is and, obviously, one of the best revenge rumors you could concoct. Because really- what does the average person know about pumping stomachs?
MrRetrdO@reddit
Buddy, you just said a mouthful. :)
Careless_Ocelot_4485@reddit
You could actually die at a Sex Pistols show. (A friend from Dallas told me that.)
Spanish Fly was essential for a date. (We never knew just what it was exactly.)
Geddy Lee blew out his voice and got throat cancer.
Gene Simmons was an actual vampire.
Crewstage8387@reddit
Pop rocks and soda would cause your stomach to explode.
Mr_Tort_Feasor@reddit
Simmons also had a cow's tongue grafted on the end of his actual tongue somehow.
DominicPalladino@reddit
A gerbil ma'am. The county does not cover procedures deemed caused by sexual activity: Section four, paragraph fifteen; we'll need an insurance number.
Crewstage8387@reddit
I heard Ginny Sack got a 95 pound mole removed from her ass
Ok-Rock2345@reddit
We also had "fax memes" too. Basically some funny typed out paper that got passed around to everyone you knew. I remember one about the word "fuck" being the most versatile word in the English language that was absolutely hysterical.
Crewstage8387@reddit
That was also a radio bit
LaVida2@reddit
There’s a glitch in the matrix…I had never heard the Rod Stewart story (53)
elphaba00@reddit
I did hear the Richard Gere story, which was apparently started by Sylvester Stallone?
Crewstage8387@reddit
What about the story about Sylvester Stallone?
UnicornFarts1111@reddit
It is not just me. I don't know anything about Rod Stewart.
phunkygroovin@reddit
Me either. 🤔
AlltheFerns@reddit
Same.
ghjm@reddit
We spent all day in school talking to our friends^(*), went home, and spent all evening^(**) talking to our friends on the telephone. Unless it was the weekend, in which case we spent all day at the mall, talking to our friends. So yes, we exchanged a lot of information.Â
* except for the few minutes a day the teachers actually managed to get us to pay attention.
** except for the few minutes a day our parents forced us to sit at the table and eat dinner.
Michaelbirks@reddit
"A lot of information"
Or just a much smaller amount of information, frequently repeated?
ghjm@reddit
Have you noticed how reddit/TikTok/etc only actually has about 10 major new things a day? Any properly motivated 15 year old could make up more shit in a day than there is on the reddit front page. Of course 90% of it would be wrong ... so I guess that would be the same.
killslikeaninja@reddit
This is the right answer.
UnicornFarts1111@reddit
I have no idea about Rod Stewart. I was usually the last to hear anything (I didn't have many friends, still don't).
Scarecrow426@reddit
One person tells another person something, and they tell two friends, and they tell two friends, and so on...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA7CKvoKEmE
LonesomeCrow@reddit
You could have at least gone with the original
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyxmj1Yf6Dk
Scarecrow426@reddit
I probably should have. Unfortunately I have a habit of quoting Wayne's World.
SheriffBartholomew@reddit
There's nothing unfortunate about that.
GarionOrb@reddit
We had the Enquirer, A Current Affair, and other tabloid news outlets. I find it so crazy how people suddenly think the internet made sharing information possible.
Reddish_Leader@reddit
I feel like the enquirer being prominent in the checkout aisle did a lot of the heavy lifting on stories like these.
elphaba00@reddit
Hell, my mother in law had a subscription. It was mailed to the house. That’s how my husband taught himself how to read. He also ended up telling a few people that his dad had AIDS because he read that red, inflamed eyes were a sign. Bad time for my father in law to get pink eye
cadien17@reddit
Back in junior high when I was babysitting and bored, I read a book all about this at their house: The Choking Doberman and Other Urban Legends. Just checked and it was published in 1984. Written by a college professor and mostly about how they spread. If you want a deep dive.
304libco@reddit
I actually wrote him a letter about the Mothman, and he replied!
Neakhanie@reddit
Tabloids at the grocery store…there were what? Three or four? And all the rumors were on the front page so even if you didn’t pick one up, you still saw them.
Extra-Breakfast-7574@reddit
The one that gets me is the “if your dorm mate commits suicide, you pass all your classes that term” myth. I heard that urban legend in the early 90s, and it was at least 30 years old at that point.
Tim-oBedlam@reddit
I heard it as "if your dorm mate commits suicide you get a 4.0" in the late 80s when I started college.
Redkris73@reddit
I had a subscription to the NME, Vanity Fair and also Interview magazine, the first one in particular taught me a LOT.
SignificantApricot69@reddit
People talked to people. And you remember “telephone”, so the stories evolved as they spread.
Ok_Responsibility419@reddit
Probably music / gossip magazines and radio DJs
HPLoveBux@reddit
What Ozzy Osborne did before the show.
What Alice Cooper did before the show.
False-Storm-5794@reddit
The parents of one of my friends were divorced. For the summer, he would go down to LA to hang out with his dad and see his friends down there. In the fall he would show up at school wearing the latest skate clothes and telling all the stories he'd heard over the summer.
The town we lived in was about 20 years behind the rest of the world. Anybody that was friends with Mike was only 3 months behind!
Not_High_Maintenance@reddit
We called each other.
Rough-Patience-2435@reddit
You can use a Telephone, Telegram, or Tell Each Other.
VecchioDiM3rd1955@reddit
Some urban legends were spread by magazines or newspapers and even some books like the ones wrote by Walter Raymond Drake. Another source were local radio stations especially the ones with an open telephone line program.
RCA2CE@reddit
I think the most amazing thing is we used maps to know directions - and we never got lost, at least I didn’t.
seattlemh@reddit
I always got lost the first time I went somewhere(still do). It was fine, though. I learned neighborhoods and shortcuts.
Careless_Ocelot_4485@reddit
Getting lost was the best way to find your way around a new city. My Gen Z nieces think that's terrifying.
Rude_Mobile_1991@reddit
Actually I've been lost since June 1989. Send help
Mr_Tort_Feasor@reddit
Before you could stream video, people passed around stuff on VHS tape. I saw the Santa vs. Jesus episode of what eventually became South Park more than a year later.
My local video rental place (called "Leathertongue" in the Mission District of San Francisco) also had an entire collection of dubbed VHS tapes with all sorts of oddities that you could rent. I saw a great documentary called Sonic Outlaws that way, as well as very early interviews with Bill Lazar.
tnic73@reddit
because there was always that one guy who was in a hurry to tell someone new
VinceP312@reddit
There was also the "Jamie Lee Curtis is a hermaphrodite" chestnut.
brinehart-cincy@reddit (OP)
God. I forgot about that one!
VinceP312@reddit
I loved that one. It was so bizarre.
TheFoxsWeddingTarot@reddit
These two were VERY popular and spread like wildfire around my Catholic elementary school via word of mouth.
I suspect some “dad mag” like Hustler or Penthouse helped spread them and they worked their way down to the kids.
Magazines were all powerful back then, and everyone read the same core set of magazines so it felt like we all knew the same things.
brinehart-cincy@reddit (OP)
This actually sounds like the most likely for mass distribution...
TheFoxsWeddingTarot@reddit
I got busted in possession of cartoon comic from Penthouse that a friend got from his dad. It was a typical Tonight Show type set up with a host and a guest and the host say
Well that’s all we have time for tonight Dick. And of course the guest is a penis in a suit.
tbodillia@reddit
Phil Collins gave the guy that killed his friend front row seats and sang the song to him.Â
Mikey died in Vietnam. John Denver and Mr Rogers were snipers in Vietnam.
Barthle@reddit
I was taught Mikey died from drinking a coke and eating pop rocks
brinehart-cincy@reddit (OP)
Yes! And yes!
Mr_Massachusetts@reddit
The anser is the original social network, known as "cousins." Many of us had cousins in other states/towns etc. and when e went to visit them, they told us, and e told our friends, and our friends told THEIR cousins. It spread like a virus.
Careless_Ocelot_4485@reddit
We had a cousin who lived in the city and was always the source of many an urban legend for us kids in the suburbs. We then took those stories to the school yard where other urban legends were exchanged with glee.
brinehart-cincy@reddit (OP)
I think this is very likely.
More_Bluejay9938@reddit
Marilyn Manson and his ribs? Or how did 4/20 get popular?
Barthle@reddit
And Marilyn Manson being on the Wonder Years
brinehart-cincy@reddit (OP)
A friend of mine went to the same school as he did. All she says is "he was weird."
obligatory-purgatory@reddit
My husband told me the Rod Stewart one but by then he was a bit old so the version I heard was Jon Bon Jovi.Â
Also, he thought you swallowed spiders in your sleep until Snooes.com was invented.Â
No-Conference-3306@reddit
A dangerous deadly gang roaming the streets that went by "The Smurfs"
boston_homo@reddit
Are you telling me that Ozzy Osbourne didn't bite the heads off live bats in concert on a regular basis?
415erOnReddit@reddit
Nope. Just once. And he thought it was a rubber bat. Had to get full rabies treatments. It was a nightmare - he talked about it.
ILoveLipGloss@reddit
in junior high (late 80s) we heard that Jon Bon Jovi had some questionable amount of a specific substance pumped from his stomach which was so ridiculous in hindsight, like why would anyone even know this as fact?
preinternetdad@reddit
Eh, I heard that about other musicians. Must've been the rumor to spread...
dodgerecharger@reddit
There were books with the most popular urban legends....
More_Bluejay9938@reddit
I gotta google these Richard and Rod stories, must have been slightly before my time.
JJQuantum@reddit
Stories were splashed all over magazine covers at the grocery store, especially on the tabloids. We received a weekly dose there and then things spread like wildfire via word of mouth.
JeffEpp@reddit
That's something most people have forgotten. There were dozens of gossip magazines, in general and specific. Wanted to know about musicians? There were like ten, some just for metal.
BmanGorilla@reddit
The Richard Gere one was true. I know this because my friend's sister's cousin heard it from some guy that knew some guy who knew Kevin Bacon, who had seen it personally.
Upset_Peace_6739@reddit
Can confirm! My best friends second cousin once removed knew a guy whose barber also knew Kevin Bacon and apparently it was all Kevin’s idea.
JeffEpp@reddit
"But, what does that make us?"
BillMaleficent9400@reddit
My brothers told me KISS meant Knights in Satans Service.
Mouse-Direct@reddit
We heard Kings in Satan’s Service.
MooPig48@reddit
Our church told us that! My sister then smashed her kiss albums with a hammer
Mouse-Direct@reddit
Whoa! My Granny told me that. My paternal grandmother was born in 1904 and I spent a lot of time with her. She only went through 8th grade in school because they couldn’t afford glasses for her, and she was legally blind. She had a hard life as a farmer’s wife (especially with her Dust Bowl, Great Depression, and the rationing of the WWII years) and raised 6 children with an unfaithful husband. She never read anything but the Bible after she got glasses as an adult, and her main interests were her Pentecostal church, quilting, gardening, and listening in on party telephone lines.
Her son, my dad, was born in 1937 and graduated from high school 2 years late with four Ds and an F. He became a journeyman electrician, read absolutely nothing because he was functionally illiterate from a childhood spent in government camps like Weedpatch during the Dust Bowl.
He had the good fortune to knock up my mom in 1969. My mom was also born in 1937 in TN with grandparents with a prosperous farm. Mom went to an all county high school, graduated a year early, was on of seven valedictorians and won the American Legion Award in scholarship.
My parents raised me in my dad’s hometown of in rural 600 in rural Oklahoma. My parents had a successful store, so I had every luxury as a kid, especially books and music.
By the time my granny started telling me about Kings in Satan’s service when I was 8, I was already doing 6th grade work in school and understood that several of the things that Granny and Dad told me that just made no sense (Black people were the sons of Ham — Noah’s son — and their skin color was his curse; forced vomiting cured most illnesses — it does not; putting butter or fresh cream on every injury — causes infection) was a result of the poor educational opportunities (this understanding aided, of course, by my educated mother.
So it didn’t take much for me to nod at them respectfully when they made bizarre religious claims about media. I just listened to my KISS Double Platinum 8-track in mom’s car.
common_sense_canada@reddit
Wow, interesting....we thought it was 'kids in service to Satan ' lol
attaboy_stampy@reddit
Somewhere way back - maybe on Howard Stern? - Paul Stanley was asked about this, and he was like, we never thought of that at all, as in it seemed like he wished they could take credit for it. "We were smart, but we weren't that smart." or something like that.
Few-Leadership8233@reddit
And in Cleveland, the story of Tom Cousineau. Urban legends existed for a long time before the internet.
Equal_Trash6023@reddit
Is this like the Richard Gere rumor?
Few-Leadership8233@reddit
Similar, but not an animal
Bahlore@reddit
I remember all of those, and it was usually all from friends who "heard it from a buddy/friend" etc.
markaguynamedmark@reddit
School playground was where I heard most of those. Add in a David Bowie and mick jagger rumor. Maybe one where Paul from the wonder years was a pop star.
Lopsided_Tomatillo27@reddit
Gee, I wonder how that rumor got started.
TheAmazingMaryJane@reddit
i think paul became marilyn manson in my neck of the woods.
HypotenuseOfTentacle@reddit
"Meme" as a word was coined in 1976, humans have somehow been doing this for a long time
cgoldberg@reddit
There was a lot of misinformation back then. I've talked to adult friends who heard that same Rod Stewart story as kids, but it was about George Michael or Elton John. It wasn't until the Internet was widespread that we got much more reliable information like the fact that Marilyn Manson was really Paul from the Wonder Years.
NairBearMI@reddit
Aren’t the two examples just plain old “permissible” homophobia? Also common in the 80s
VinceP312@reddit
As if a guy putting a gerbil up his butt means he's gay?
I'm gay and think that leap is ridiculous.
acousticswirl@reddit
That's the thing about the 80s though, any hint of non-conformity could get a person, place, or object called gay. Forget about a rumor of a man getting pleasure from anal stimulation. By the standards of the time it was not much of a leap at all.
ImaginaryAd6339@reddit
I was mad at your comment at first, but then I remembered consent wasn't as common in the 80s, either.
That poor gerbil
And I don't know anything about the Rod Stewart one. And I'd really rather not.
Wacko_Banana_Pants@reddit
Everyone knew to pull out the game cartridge, blow on it, then reinstall it
Unusual_Memory3133@reddit
Word of mouth is not to be underestimated
SheenasJungleroom@reddit
Yes indeed: “Word-of-mouth” otherwise known as “the oral tradition“ is what kept culture alive throughout the centuries.
Budget-berry-80@reddit
We all knew this guy…the guy that no matter the subject he had juicy scandalous gossip that just spewed out of him. Conspiracy theories, “chewing gum takes 7 years to digest”, “I knew a kid who drank a coke and ate pop rocks and his stomach exploded”. We all had a Joe Rogan in our group. He was full of shit but fun and knew where to get weed.
OtakuTacos@reddit
Same way we all knew about “your mom.”
Nightgasm@reddit
The Richard Gere one blew up after the TV show In Living Color used it as a skit during their alternative Superbowl halftime show. This would have been sometime between 1990 and 1992 as I remember watching it with college classmates.
acousticswirl@reddit
Nah. It was well-known before the Men on Film skit. I remember kids in the neighborhood joking about that one in the 80s.
TheAmazingMaryJane@reddit
i lived in a small city in canada and knew about this. the rod stewart one especially (cuz we were girls and young and weirded out about man fluid).
ChiefinLasVegas@reddit
mouths and ears still existed back then
Street_Barracuda1657@reddit
The same way the Iliad made it to us.
sidewaysmotion613@reddit
Is Richard Gere's gerbil our Iliad? The Illeum, if you will?
Street_Barracuda1657@reddit
In a thousand years our ancestors will be telling stories about the mighty gerbil....
brinehart-cincy@reddit (OP)
You be illin'.
digdugnate@reddit
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ae4hFmp5rDA
obligatory Family Guy Richard Gere cutaway
Komaisnotsalty@reddit
We all knew someone who bought every magazine that there was, or had a mom who bought every magazine that there was. Not only that, magazines are everywhere. Every single office that you had to wait in had magazines there for you to read.
Almost every household got the newspaper on the daily as well, and it had a celeb section. We were kept well informed. The news obviously took a day or two to get to you, but it did get to us.
And we were far more social back then as well. We got together to play cards or to go dancing or to do a whole slew of different things, and that's where you caught up on your news and had your little chin wags.
I am no technophobe, but quite honestly, I don't think that us getting the internet is the payoff that everyone thinks it is.
brinehart-cincy@reddit (OP)
I'm beginning to think coming down out of the trees was a big mistake.
Retracnic@reddit
The trees were a bad move, no one should ever have left the oceans.
WhatTheHellPod@reddit
The math on the Stewart story if that sort of things interests you.
kabekew@reddit
Rumors were spread in magazines like the National Enquirer
EloquentBacon@reddit
Or the Weekly World News!
OpeningFuture6799@reddit
This ⬆️
in-a-microbus@reddit
I heard the story about what they found in Bon Jovi's stomach standing in the lunch line. All these stores were spread via word of mouth
-Hot-Toddy-@reddit
The mall. It was literally the town square back in the 80s & were my friends & I would hang & swap gossip on a Friday night.
dtoddh@reddit
We used to send letters and talk on the phone.
Notch99@reddit
Those wacky “morning zoo” radio shows.
ImaginaryAd6339@reddit
RIP Bob
Ok_Tanasi1796@reddit
Yeah. The ancient times of the last century when human to human communication wasn’t obtuse or foreign. Probably started from a pre social media device like a juicy Nat’l Enquirer or Page Six article then just spread word of mouth like a virus.
lovebeinganasshole@reddit
I’ve posted this before, but I remember the Richard Gere story. I was at a party and someone in another group was talking about the latest thing in San Francisco a nurse friend told him about some guy came into the ER with a gerbil stuck in his butt. A year later another party and someone is telling me the same story only now it’s not some anonymous San Franciscan, but poor Richard Gere. Just a really bad case of the telephone game.
warrenao@reddit
Looking back, the fatal flaw in the presumption in the 80s and 90s among the techno-literati that the intertubes would lead to a renaissance of enlightenment and intelligence around the world … was ignoring the speed at which schoolyard gossip spread.
Everyone knew about Rod and Richard and (as u/BillMaleficent9400 noted) KISS, and that Bubble Yum bubblegum was made with spiders' eggs, Mikey (the Life Cereal kid) overdosed on Pop Rocks and his stomach exploded, and that there was this guy who found a drowned rat in his can of Coke and another guy who bit into some KFC to discover it was actually rat, because rats were just goddamned everywhere, getting into the machinery like horrible tribbles.
What's really kinda sad is that the rumors spread online now are no more plausible, yet grown-ass alleged adults seem to believe them.
Outrageous-Taro7340@reddit
Grown ass adults believed this shit back then, too. They also repeated it knowing it was bullshit. They likely started most of it.
AaronTheElite007@reddit
Bikes, hose water, complete freedom
lovebeinganasshole@reddit
Old fashioned gossip.
EnjoyingTheRide-0606@reddit
Two cans connected by string.
No_Conversation7564@reddit
We had a lot of talking to do on the playground. 🤷‍♀️
brandrikr@reddit
Tabloids at the grocery store checkout lanes. All of the music and pop culture magazines that were on every bookshelf. Word-of-mouth when people used to actually talk to each other instead of stare a phone.
CawlinAlcarz@reddit
I remember a friend telling me the Rod Stewart story in 7th grade (82 or 83) during homeroom.
The Richard Gere story came to me some years later (also verbally, from friends in school) and there was some confusion and/or crossover with the same story attributed to Jerry Penacoli.
attaboy_stampy@reddit
It was just word of mouth. Probably got passed long distances by kids at summer camp or going to distant families on vacations or joint school events and such. Sometimes you might here it like an offhand joke or comment from someone on MTV, like a VJ or whatever. Sometimes it'd be something from a movie or a stand up album.
LastNightOsiris@reddit
I think a lot of these rumors/gossip/urban legends originated in stand up comedy, or comedy shows like saturday night live, etc. All it takes is one kid in the class who either heard it from one of those sources directly, or from an older sibling or relative, or other kids at camp, sports, whatever. Then it would quickly spread throughout a new school. The internet sped up things up but didn't fundamentally change how information (or misinformation) spreads.
ww_adh77@reddit
People talked to each other more. Remember the hours people spent on the phone? And these days its not uncommon to go to public places (bars, restaurants, cafes) and see groups of people hanging out together but not saying a single word to each other--because every single one is zoned into their phones. Honestly, it's bizarre behavior, but it's become normalized. But in the '80s, NOBODY would gather a group of people to then not talk to each other.
Tom_in_Ohio@reddit
In the early 90s, I was a college student in Vermont, went to Virginia over spring break, and handed a Jerky Boys bootleg cassette tape to a college student from California. That’s another way things spread.
CommunicationNew3745@reddit
People forget how pervasive radio was and how much reach it had, pre internet - add the DJ's and there you have it. I remember specifically hearing the Rod Stewart one via Steve Dahl of WLUP, Chicago - WLS's Larry Lujack was another who spread alot of what we now consider uraban myths.
ofayokay@reddit
I’ll never forget when Alfonso Ribeiro broke his neck while breakdancing & died
ABeardHelps@reddit
Instead of social media, we had tabloids like the National Enquirer sitting next to the checkout lanes at the grocery store as our prime source of celebrity gossip.
pmramirezjr@reddit
I used to buy 2 or 3 and read them over the weekend. Sunday mornings were the comics!
BMisterGenX@reddit
yeah I've often wondered how these things started and how they spread.