How would you prove you’re a time traveller if you landed back in your 2007 hometown with nothing but yourself?
Posted by Weak_Mechanic8517@reddit | AskUK | View on Reddit | 391 comments
No phone, no internet, no proof, just your memory and whatever you can say or do. How are you convincing people you’re from the future?
No-Possibility-3072@reddit
Tell anyone who’s even vaguely interested that the ass is going to drop out of the housing market in the next 12-18 months.
smeghead9916@reddit
Assuming I'm going back to this day in 2007, I'm going to Portugal to try to save Madeleine McCann.
Mammoth-Ad-562@reddit
Pedo
smeghead9916@reddit
Who said I'm gonna do that? I can't fight off an intruder. I'm gonna call the police the second those parents leave them.
glasgowgeg@reddit
Leaving a child in a hotel room is not a crime on its own, why would the police attend that call?
Justboy__@reddit
Not even that, just wait near the apartment so he knows the coast isn’t clear.
Gone_For_Lunch@reddit
And by trying to save her you inadvertently become the reason she disappears.
smeghead9916@reddit
How so?
SnowflakeBaube22@reddit
I mean how do we know the reason she disappeared isnt because a time traveller went back in time to stop her disappearance and messed up…
TheGreatBatsby@reddit
You take her out of the room and carry her back to the time portal, thinking you'll be a hero.
Come back and the case is exactly the same and now you've got to look after a 3 year old.
ict7070@reddit
The movie would depict you tripping over near the restaurant, face-planting a rock, and everyone in the place (especially the McCanns) rushing out to help you. This gives the real abductor the distraction required to carry out the kidnapping. Or something like that…
Gone_For_Lunch@reddit
Classic time travel paradox.
blinky84@reddit
I dunno, some kind of..... time..... vortex.... thing.....?
LillyAtts@reddit
Wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey stuff
the-TARDIS-ran-away@reddit
Fantastic.
apple_kicks@reddit
You both end up randomly traveling back to the future with no way to return
sonicated@reddit
I'd advise physicists to look for the Higgs Boson at around 125GeV, dig up the Greyfriars car park in Leicester to find Richard III and to dig up that field near Hammerwich for a massive Anglo-saxon gold hoard.
Yes I thought of this after the Rest is Science podcast episode! Easy things I can remember.
glasgowgeg@reddit
There were already people saying they thought he was there pre-2007 though, so that wouldn't "prove" anything.
Philippa Langley was saying it was there as far back as 2004-2005.
JamesTiberious@reddit
Why would they listen to your advice in the first place? You’d have to prove your credentials first.
Bobinska@reddit
Even the poor woman WITH credentials struggled to get Richard III found I learned recently. No one was taking her seriously.
The satisfying part was she ended up with a TV show where they found him and they had to eat their words.
danbrown_notauthor@reddit
The question is about proving you’re a time traveller.
So you need to make these “predictions” in some sort of public way that will create a record. Then as each one comes true, your credentials as a time traveller become more convincing.
Weak_Mechanic8517@reddit (OP)
hey vsauce!
Dogtag@reddit
Michael here, but where is "here"?
ExcitementKooky418@reddit
Or is it?
a_peanut@reddit
Hannah here, I think you mean when is "here"
AlucardVTep3s@reddit
Rest is science, sister channel to Rest is history?
Or coincidence?
VexedAndVomitHexed@reddit
The "Rest Is" podcasts are all owned by Goalhanger.
sonicated@reddit
It's all part of a Conspiracy to help the Rest is Football get a time traveller to reveal the location of the Jules Rimet trophy.
FragileRunner@reddit
I came here to say that OP was either listening to the Rest is Science podcast or it’s one hell of a coincidence 😅
lumberingox@reddit
The fact that I look nearly 20 years older than when I was 20/21 would be the give away!
811545b2-4ff7-4041@reddit
Apparently, one way to prove yourself is to give the location of shipwrecks that haven't yet been found. Or stuff like treasure troves of Roman coins found by metal detectorists.
E.g. SS Greek, sunk in 1869, discovered in 2024 in 100 metres of water between Cornwall and Ireland.
AnyOlUsername@reddit
They only works if you know the locations of shipwrecks prior to travelling.
I don’t know any.
Darthblaker7474@reddit
Titanic
breaded_skateboard@reddit
Underwater
UndulatingUnderpants@reddit
You need the vsauce slap bracelet
811545b2-4ff7-4041@reddit
You're clearly not a time traveler then
redseaaquamarine@reddit
But then you change history by having them found sooner, and you get stuck in a new timeline and can never get home....
811545b2-4ff7-4041@reddit
It's ok, time is a closed loop. I always found them in the first place.
redseaaquamarine@reddit
Of course. Because Back to The Future is obviously just silly make-believe, a Hollywood movie storyline
audigex@reddit
The problem is that most people don't know those off the top of your head, so you'd have to specifically learn it
811545b2-4ff7-4041@reddit
I'd guess that if you have a time machine, you might have some foresight to plan this stuff.
audigex@reddit
Sure, but the question is whether you deliberately travelled back there or just got dumped there via a nasty accident with a nuclear reactor and an Apple Watch
811545b2-4ff7-4041@reddit
Whipping out your Apple Watch, first launch in 2015, might be a great way to prove you're from the future then. Or your phone. If this is 2007.
audigex@reddit
Unfortunately the post states you land back there with nothing but yourself, so presumably the Watch was lost in the accident
jack5624@reddit
Someone has been listening to the rest is science
vikingveteran@reddit
I’d keep quiet and buy a shit ton of bitcoin
CrackersMcCheese@reddit
Then put a fortune on Leicester Cjty during the 15/16 season at 5000-1
CrackersMcCheese@reddit
Knowing my luck, me placing a £1M bet (£5B return) would hit the press and it would affect the team. Spurs are crowned champions.
MyDadsGlassesCase@reddit
Ha, not even an infinite number of parallel dimensions would guarantee that
coops2k@reddit
There must be one, LOL?
Buzzinggg@reddit
Yes this current one where they win the championship next season
yesthenshaggers@reddit
Lincoln champions,
Tottenham knocked out by Oxford city in the play offs
WesternEmpire2510@reddit
At the bookies I worked in there were set limits on winnings.
I dont know any bookie that would be stupid enough to not give permission to lay a shit ton on a 5000/1 shot but would likely limit it to 200 quid or so
Solo-me@reddit
Or arsenal
CityOfNorden@reddit
No bookies paying that out anyway 😂
fussyfella@reddit
They probably would if you did it right. Make a lot of publicity about being a City superfan before placing the bet, get on local TV. You just look like a rich eccentric local supporter.
Do it with a big name bookie who will just lay off the bet anyway, and as the season progresses and it starts to look possible, they will also likely insure some or all of the risk with Lloyds too. Sure it will hurt when the pay out happens, but they likely will pay out if they took the bet.
The biggest issue is now the whole world know you are super rich, so any hope of hiding under the radar is gone.
michaelscottdundmiff@reddit
In the rules page displayed in every bookies they have max payouts on display. They would 100% hide behind that
StiffWiggly@reddit
They would refuse to take the bet at their normal odds (or at all), they wouldn’t accept a bet with a payout above their maximum because that’s would be incredibly stupid.
fussyfella@reddit
Which is why I suggested making it a public thing.
Greedy-Mechanic-4932@reddit
I wonder if it'd be better to just bet multiple across various markets..?
jimpez86@reddit
I'm pretty sure there were a couple of big bets made on Leicester to win. Pretty certtthe gaming companies bought them out of the bet
CrackersMcCheese@reddit
Yes because that’s the stumbling block in my plan.
Mrslinkydragon@reddit
"At least give me my money back..."
"Sirry we're now closed .."
danbrown_notauthor@reddit
Sir, this is now a Wendy’s.
upthewatwo@reddit
If this is the first deployment of this: nice flip, kudos to you Dan Brown.
If this has been done before, and you've seen it done before: fine, I guess.
danbrown_notauthor@reddit
I haven’t seen it done like this before…
Mrslinkydragon@reddit
Ah damn it.
cbrownmufc@reddit
Even if 19 teams pulled out of the league that season, somehow spurs would still fail to win it
theinspectorst@reddit
Arsenal, more likely. My favourite fact about that season is Leicester actually winning it, but my second favourite fact is that Spurs finished 3rd in a two-horse race
epicmindwarp@reddit
The bigger issue is, this'll probably never pay out.
Level-Location1679@reddit
Become a major shareholder in Google and completely f it up leading to a terrible future where people keep telling you to "Yahoo it" whenever you ask a question
smedsterwho@reddit
I buy up all the Bitcoin, only to see Dogecoin go to $70,000.
TangoMikeOne@reddit
I wouldn't rush to Billy Hill's with that - unless it's changed in 30 odd years the maximum payout (irrespective of stake and odds) is around £1M - you could spend a few monthd travelling the country, visiting bookies and dropping £20-100 in different branches, but the head office keeps track of stuff like that and will adjust prices accordingly. You could do the same for all high street bookies and they will do the same - not to mention they'll be keeping an eye on each others prices and you will cause movement in the market.
Much better to go spread betting in this case (I presume - never done it, and couldn't afford it) and buy a fuck load of 15/16 Premiership, Leicester City... and have the mug punters that think selling LC is a sure thing.
The best thing to do, is get your fortune together before then, so you don't have to work during the season, go to every game and have any seat (or box) in the house... while you're at it, make sure that the chairman doesn't take that helicopter ride (not a LC, or even football fan - but that was no way to go, and I'd like to see what LC could have achieved if he was still around)
yessuz@reddit
Put a bet in 2007 for result in 2016/16 :))) you would probably foind sone bookies hitting 100 000 / 1 :D
ChoakIsland@reddit
And to be relegated to League 1 within 10 years.
Upstairs-Hedgehog575@reddit
Bookies wouldn’t pay out. They’re sneaky like that
m94100@reddit
Some bet that was 😂
811545b2-4ff7-4041@reddit
Imagine the long bet of them winning the prem, then getting demoted to the 1st divison!
mcmanus2099@reddit
With what?
littletorreira@reddit
I have a bank account from Halifax I've had since 1996. I had online banking in 2007 and I could use that to change my address, order a new card, use said card to withdraw money (my pin is unwisely the same as in 2007).
smedsterwho@reddit
Halifax are terrible in terms of passwords. My sister has had the same online password with them since 2009. No special characters etc, no prompt to say "Hey, it's been nearly 20 years, fancy a fresh one?"
(Not to knock Halifax overall, app is fine, how they work is fine)
littletorreira@reddit
Yeah this, my log in today is the same as when I was 19.
01000010-01101001@reddit
The up to date guidance is not to force users to update their passwords. I doubt that the password would adhere to length recommendations though.
mcmanus2099@reddit
Yeah, so find yourself in 2007, take them out of the picture and you are golden
Aperture45@reddit
And then cause a paradox because 2007 you needs to live to 2026 in order to travel back! Universe collapse imminent...
LlamaDrama007@reddit
Have you seen PRIMER (2004)? There is a strategy used to at least attempt to avoid said paradox... (wont spoil here)
CaptainTwig572@reddit
I've seen Primer twice and honestly I'm not even sure it's possible to spoil it. One day I might even understand half of it.
LlamaDrama007@reddit
They definitely didnt worry about dumbing anything down or making the theoretical science accessible xD
But I was talking about >! when Aaron drugs his past self and locks him in the attic for the rest of the film !<
OutrageousLemon@reddit
Likewise, had my main current account since 1990, PIN hasn't changed since at least 1995 - there's no logical reason for me to change it.
Mental_Body_5496@reddit
Back in the day you couldnt change it - so my first one stuck !
Mental_Body_5496@reddit
Same but nat West circa 1989 !
redseaaquamarine@reddit
Barclays 1984
South-Group-2341@reddit
I always change mine. I'm thinking I should keep it the same to avoid the possibility of waking up in 2007 without access to my cash (I actually had quite a lot back then... relatively speaking)
ImDankest@reddit
You wouldn't even need to buy any bitcoin. When it was first released, bitcoin faucets were a thing. You could literally claim free bitcoin just from visiting someone's website. This was back when it was worth virtually nothing
PityPartySommelier@reddit
Ive just done a stupid bit of maths...
I sold all the bits I'd collected from faucets for £500 13years ago, apparently that'd be worth 1.5 million now.
Bugger
dvb70@reddit
For Bitcoin you need a tiny amount of cash. A guy bought a pitza with 10,000 Bitcoin at one point that was the equivalent to around $10. That's now over $700 million. I figure even arriving back in 2007 with nothing being able to come up with $10 would not be tricky.
mcmanus2099@reddit
So how do you turn that bitcoin into something you can buy a house with, or food, or clothes?
audigex@reddit
I think the point is that it would be your medium term (3-5 years) plan, selling some when the first exchanges opened
In the short term you'd probably need to find work or place bets on events you can remember
mcmanus2099@reddit
But how do you place any large bets without a bank account.
audigex@reddit
It’s 2007, you walk into a betting shop with cash - this is before “online everything” took over, nobody’s going to bat an eyelid
Or if you were an adult/late teen in 2007-08 you probably have access to online banking
mcmanus2099@reddit
Yeah, ok. But we're talking betting and making thousands here, not tens or hundreds of thousands. You aren't going to be able to handle quantities of money matching that to buy a house without a bank account.
dvb70@reddit
Well first of all you need to wait at least 10 years. After that there are exchanges that allow you to convert to real money.
mcmanus2099@reddit
How do you convert to real without a bank account. Or survive for 10 years without a bank account or job
vikingveteran@reddit
Think it was free when it first came out?
mcmanus2099@reddit
You need to mine it. You need to buy a £1k+ PC to do that
audigex@reddit
In 2007 you could mine it on a budget PC and didn't even need a GPU. A £500 laptop could mine enough in days that you'd be a multi-billionaire now
A 3GHz Athlon X2 got about 30KHash/sec in 2009 and the entire network had maybe 1-5MHash/sec. So with one laptop you had perhaps 3% of the entire hashrate...
2007 was a time when one person turning their PC off to go on holiday for a week could make a measurable difference to the network's hashrate
In 2007 you could mine enough in a month that you'd be a multibillionaire today
mcmanus2099@reddit
How do you buy this laptop?
audigex@reddit
I’ve mentioned in another comment that in 2007 I could’ve just logged into my own unused online banking from a savings account I didn’t use day to day
But if not, find some casual/cash in hand work or even just shoplift one if you really have to - nick one from a charity shop and then give them a massive donation a week later
Or steal from yourself using your hidden spare key or just go explain the situation to yourself, whatever works
OneCrispyHobo@reddit
1k PC? In 2007? Lol
Noon_Specialist@reddit
Probably £500-600 for something decent.
OneCrispyHobo@reddit
A basic PC back then could do roughly 1–5 Megahashes per second. Mining just one block would've given you 50 Bitcoin. With that basic PC, you could mine a few blocks per day, giving you roughly 150-250 Bitcoin per day!! And that's with a basic PC.. even a crappy PC (100£) would've allowed you to mine atleast 1 block per day ( 50 BTC)
Noon_Specialist@reddit
£100 PC back then would've been a second-hand piece of crap from 03.
OneCrispyHobo@reddit
It's not about the PC, it's about how easy it was to mine Bitcoin when it first launched, you wouldn't even need a "decent pc" . If you could play Zuma or CounterStrike 1.5 on it , it would've been good enough to make some serious Bitcoin.
Noon_Specialist@reddit
Zuma, sure, but not CS. I think you're forgetting the major jumps in performance in the early 00s.
OneCrispyHobo@reddit
Yeah the early 00s were a boom in technology. Either way, my original point still stands. Asked AI and Acer Aspire Revo 1600 ($199) or a generic budget desktop from a big-box store would've been more than enough to mine dozens of Bitcoin per day. Therfore no.. if you go back in time you wouldn't need 1k , not even half of that .
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IllMaintenance145142@reddit
In 2007 you could mine it with a tiny pc. Literally go to a scrapyard to get an old 90s pc and you could mine hundreds a day.
mcmanus2099@reddit
Ok. And how are you gonna survive? How are you turning that bitcoin into real money. No bank account, no cash, no documentation to open a bank account or get a job.
Mental_Body_5496@reddit
Im old enough to remember life without tech.
Most old people had cash - i would go for knock and do jobs - pretty easy money literally if you are presentable.
mcmanus2099@reddit
Yeah ok, so making ends meet.
Hardly getting to be a millionaire though right? How do you even buy a house even then without a bank account?
Mental_Body_5496@reddit
2007 before money laundering rules.
I can use my own bank account details I still have an account from then.
Lots of empty properties not registered at land registry since it came in no sale made - find someone and offer them a barrel of cash !
IllMaintenance145142@reddit
These are problems you'd have in 2007 no matter what. I don't get why you're asking this to me as if it disagrees with me
mcmanus2099@reddit
The wider question is how you'd survive in 2007, mining bitcoin doesn't really solve that.
Most ppl travelling back 20+ years would become beggars on the street not millionaires
IllMaintenance145142@reddit
I mean the actual question op is asking is how you would prove you are a time traveller, talking about bitcoin is already one tangent and now survival in general is another from the original point.
Hell if I had to be a beggar on the street to become a millionaire 5 years later I would (and you could if you had foreknowledge of bitcoin back then)
mcmanus2099@reddit
How do you become a millionaire 5 years later?
IllMaintenance145142@reddit
In 2007, bitcoins were worth a fraction of a penny. You just mine them on literally anything you can (a library computer if needed, there were literally sites giving out hundreds for free as a goof)
mcmanus2099@reddit
Right but how does that become money you can spend on houses, food, clothing
IllMaintenance145142@reddit
I genuinely think that because digital systems weren't all there, you could probably get at least a bank account pretty easily without getting caught imo. Maybe easily is too much but I think it's not as borderline impossible as it seems today
mcmanus2099@reddit
Without a birth certificate or any proof of ID?
IllMaintenance145142@reddit
I think so. It'd take some doing but I'm certain you could in 2007. Plus it's worth a punt, not like you've got anything to lose
shendy42@reddit
Like I'd have enough money back then to be worth nicking!
Braylien@reddit
Out of everyone I could rob, I would not pick myself
mcmanus2099@reddit
The reason I say yourself is you need documentation.
You need your driver's license, birth certificate, passport. You can't open a bank account, get a job or anything. You'd have to come up with an illness to explain looking 20 years older.
If you rob yourself, and ideally prestige yourself then you could take this info, you'd have access to your bank accounts so long as you remember your pin number and he able to set up what you need to buy shares and mine bitcoin and have the banking infrastructure to become a millionaire.
If you, an undocumented person rob someone else then you have enough money till you run out of it
Mental_Body_5496@reddit
2007 - just go to a pub and befriend some sad old single bloke - use his details !
1977 - what ID ?
audigex@reddit
It's 2007-08, not the stone ages, I could literally just log into my online banking. I had an entire current + savings account with a bank I'd stopped using day to day when I went to uni (because another bank was offering that tasty tasty free railcard), so I could use that account no problem
2007-08 me wouldn't even notice that his savings were gone before I'd put them back, because I know I didn't touch that account for years. At most 3 years later he'd maybe think "Huh, weird, it looks like someone withdrew £10k and then put it back a month later... must be a glitch on the system because I definitely didn't do that", but I probably wouldn't have even noticed
In fact, I found a passport 15 years later at my mum's house that I thought I'd lost and replaced back then. So I could just go let myself in with the hidden spare key and take that and nobody would be any the wiser. I know my national insurance number off by heart and 2007-08 me wasn't working while studying so I wouldn't have noticed any tax code weirdness
So I've got bootstrapping cash, a bank account, and in-date-but-cancelled ID that wouldn't be valid for international travel but would pass muster for proving my identity. That should be enough, I think - I could rent somewhere cheap and buy a laptop, and that would be enough to do some freelance work while I waited for some bets to come in.
... thinking about it now, I have some NI contributions from 2007-2010 that I always found to be a bit weird, and I could've sworn when I found that passport that it hadn't been there a couple of years earlier. Maybe this has actually happened
Charlie_Yu@reddit
I can still get my ID or a new one right? Everything still looks the same and I also know my address
mcmanus2099@reddit
That's what I mean by beating yourself up.
If you are an adult in 2007 you could prestige yourself and take over your life.
But other than that you are screwed given you are undocumented
jonrosling@reddit
And shares in Nvidia.
apple_kicks@reddit
How much money would you be able to earn if you suddenly went back unless you can convince your past self to help
ChemicalConclusion71@reddit
That was my first thought, work and spend every penny on bitcoin
VeryChineseTime@reddit
I was buying bitcoins for weed not super early on but I still have a bookmark from when it was $400ish/btc, I spent 3-4 on a half pound.
Saguaro555@reddit
This is the way
Particular-Lime1651@reddit
Just about to say that
Gone_For_Lunch@reddit
How does that quickly prove to people you’re a time traveller?
tannercolin@reddit
I don't care about that any more, I'm going to be rich
Ill_Yogurt_4659@reddit
Literally what I said
vikingveteran@reddit
Wanna build a time travel machine?
Ill_Yogurt_4659@reddit
Hmm too much money but I’ve always wanted to learn to count cards. We can take over Las Vegas for a weekend??
vikingveteran@reddit
Loading you tube as we speak
Ill_Yogurt_4659@reddit
How to Count Cards: An... https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1530479541?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share the books better
Zestyclose-Ad-1178@reddit
There's a whole podcast episode on this: https://youtu.be/6AvDME9Ti2E?si=H5VLIS2X1O6dMaBn, but essentially you need at least 2 unknowable things from the the time, that cannot be explained by luck or skill
Ok_Winner_1354@reddit
I'd be straight down the bookies not bragging how I was a time traveller
Logical_Strain_6165@reddit
This silly thing called Bitcoin that's just come out. Probably worth buying a few.
keithbelfastisdead@reddit
Not even buying it, they were giving them out for free at the start.
garok89@reddit
I bought one for £14 years ago. I had a fraction of it left and it was worth £400ish when bitcoin hit 20k for the first time. Hindsight is a bitch
Ill_Yogurt_4659@reddit
Yeah a few million
PositiveTemporary977@reddit
The guy who broke bitcoin and made it never happen
Weak_Mechanic8517@reddit (OP)
you just remember random 2007 sports results with no way of googling them?
Indie89@reddit
Leicester City win the Premier League at 5000-1 odds, I can't remember which year so just bet all your money every year till it happens.
sisterrai@reddit
It was the 2015-16 season, in case this does ever happen to you
Indie89@reddit
I think my reminder would be the story starting in Thailand...
Major_Surprise1413@reddit
i remember a decent amount to make some money yeah
Meat2480@reddit
The odds on England reaching the world cup final would have been interesting,they were something like 250/1 of them winning it,at the start of it
audigex@reddit
Plus you can go the other way and place really safe bets at low odds
Even if you can't remember who won the 2010 world cup (Spain), presumably remember that England didn't win it. So even if you only got crap odds, it's free money
DiamondL0st@reddit
In a 32 team tournament, I don't think any bookie would offer bets on who ISN'T going to win it.
boringPedals@reddit
You can do that on an exchange like smarkets or betfair exchange. Place a lay bet on England winning the world cup. When they don't win, you win the bet
audigex@reddit
You can do it with a conventional bookie too - Sky Bet, William Hill, Paddy Power etc will all provide odds on request for *most* vaguely sensible requests
audigex@reddit
You can absolutely do that
They're not normally available via the apps, but you can walk into a bookie and ask for odds on virtually anything - they send it to their underwriter who decides whether to offer odds and what odds to give you. You can also just email their customer support for online bookies and they'll usually do it too.
They won't offer odds on *anything*, but they'll do it for surprisingly obscure stuff and certainly they'll offer you a reciprocal bet of odds they're already offering for a major sporting event - I'd be amazed if they didn't do that, because they've already got the odds calculated for teams to win the tournament and so it's just maths to calculate the equivalent odds for a team *not* to
Sky calls it "Request A Bet", Paddy Power calls it "Request a Price", WIlliam Hill calls it "Your Odds" - most bookies will do it. The odds are usually a bit on the cautious side, but it's available.
When Christ Kirkland was 10 his parents walked into a William Hill shop and placed a £100 bet that he would play for England at 100/1. Obviously they weren't offering that in general, but were happy to do so when his dad asked for it. If they'll do that, I'm pretty sure they'll offer you odds on England not winning the World Cup
boringPedals@reddit
Wales hadn't qualified for a major tournament in god knows how many years. Betting on them to make the semi finals of the 2016 euros would have been good odds
DiamondL0st@reddit
Not sure what year you're refering to but England have never been 250-1 to win the world cup.
boringPedals@reddit
The 2008 fa cup final was contested between Cardiff and Portsmouth. At the start of the season you would have had great odds on those teams to make the final, Cardiff especially considering they were a championship side
audigex@reddit
Do I remember random results in random sports? No, I have no idea who won the NBA or a specific game
But I follow some sports closely enough that I'd definitely have some decent bets available
I know who won the F1 drivers championship most years, I know the results of some specific races, and I can place some bets on some obscure combinations that I remember
Eg I suspect I'd get fucking good odds on a bet placed in 2007 rookie Nico Rosberg to win the WDC in 2016 and then immediately retire. Or in 2008 that Hamilton beats Massa by a single point due to an overtake on the last lap of the last race of the season, when Massa had already finished the race
Similarly although I can't definitely tell you who did win eg the Premier League or FA Cup in any given year, I can remember some years, and in other years I can tell you who definitely *didn't* win, so I can take some terrible odds knowing that I've got no risk. Eg normally if you're seeing 1/10 odds for likely outcomes then it's just not worth risking the upset for the potential meagre returns available, but if you *know* that result didn't go that way then it's much easier
Elections are another easy one: they happen pretty regularly and you know the result, so even if the odds aren't great you can throw every penny you have at the favourite and it's just free money
onion2077@reddit
Do it bttf style and bring an almanac with ya
Virtual_Opinion_8630@reddit
but remember not to dump your computer containing the password
SnowflakeBaube22@reddit
“Hi. I’m from the future. See that building over there? It’s gonna burn down. Multiple times in fact. Enjoy it while you can. Peace out ✌🏻 “
Crepegamestrong@reddit
Almost everyone in the replies here have not answered the question correctly
bishibashi@reddit
I’d make a fortune out of the imminent global financial crisis and not bother.
WinglyBap@reddit
How?
Jimmyboro@reddit
Watch 'The Great Short' to see how a few people actually made billions of the banks and their greed when they saw the bubble was about to burst. If you watch that, you see the same patterns prior to every crash in the market.
AdhesivenessNo9878@reddit
You need quite a lot of money to start with if you want to short mortgage markets.
Past-Bicycle5959@reddit
I think you mean the big short
Spyro_0@reddit
Invest in bit coin and many many tech companies. Amazon, Nvidia, Microsoft, Twitter, Facebook ect.
clicketybooboo@reddit
Short the shit out of it.
Rhesus-Positive@reddit
Is my past self still knocking about? I think the fact that I'm clearly 19 years older than I was back then should be a pretty big indicator, so I think it's more a case of convincing my parents that I'm me, and then the only logical reason for my appearance would be time travel.
Free_Perspective3998@reddit
You cannot meet yourself because you haven’t already met yourself
Rhesus-Positive@reddit
Unless I did and didn't believe myself, then forgot about it
audigex@reddit
Yeah I'm really bad at remembering names and faces, this seems plausible
Affectionate_Grab902@reddit
I feel like you'd remember seeing your own face/name though
audigex@reddit
You'd think, wouldn't you, but I genuinely walked past my own sister in the street once
Daveddozey@reddit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosopagnosia
JamesTiberious@reddit
Good idea but dangerous. The smallest changes made to your past selfs life could send former you on a path that means they don’t get to be a time traveller later on. Then suddenly ✨current you disappears.
hadawayandshite@reddit
Nah- split realities, your reality still exists but you just can’t ever get back to it as how you’re on a different branch. Time traveller you still exists but can never go ‘home’
Double_Jab_Jabroni@reddit
Great Scott!
Not_Wrong_Tho@reddit
Nah. If that were possible then I'd have already done it and thus wouldn't have been back in time in the first place.
Back to the Future rules are fun, but don't really hold up to any sort of logical scrutiny.
audigex@reddit
Well, that depends on which version of time travel exists in this hypothetical
If there's only one timeline and you go back in it, then yes. If you travelling back branches the timeline then no
onion2077@reddit
The grandfather paradox
Rhesus-Positive@reddit
Well in that flavour of time travel I won't want to reveal myself
SkyPilotOne@reddit
There's no way past me would look at present me and believe that I was all that was left of me.
the-TARDIS-ran-away@reddit
This makes it sound like youve had all your limbs amputated
Silly-Industry1527@reddit
The bit that would do my head in... how would I know which one I was?
zombiezmaj@reddit
Id just win the lottery and enjoy a different life
Weak_Mechanic8517@reddit (OP)
you're transported with no prep dawg you aint remembering all that
Hydramy@reddit
Even with no prep, I'd have the knowledge of bitcoin existing.
mannyrerobate@reddit
But you'd have to hang around a year or two. But also because it's so close people might just think that you invented it and was leaving crumbs as that's way more plausible than you're a time traveller.
the-TARDIS-ran-away@reddit
Why would you have to hang about? Wouldnt you just have the money in the future? It would be in your accounts?
mannyrerobate@reddit
They didn't say you're coming back in a blip tho. You went back in a blip, but as far as I can see from the question you're waiting real time to travel back to 2026
b3tarded@reddit
But you’d reach the present, to the point where you are transported back in time.
Meaning at that point you’d have the money when transporting back.
So the blip doesn’t allow you to make money, it actually makes you lose it.
the-TARDIS-ran-away@reddit
Ah i see. I still think investing is a good shout!
mannyrerobate@reddit
Definitely a good shout! Especially if you remember the date when it peaked as well.
That might help a bit but I'd still think you were just the world's luckiest man, and only suspected time traveller
the-TARDIS-ran-away@reddit
No idea, i reckon once it hit a good amount id just take it out.
Worlds luckiest woman but yes!
I probably wouldnt want to prove i was a time traveler honestly, id just enjoy the world pre pandemic.
mannyrerobate@reddit
Sorry luckiest woman haha but yeah that's so fair honestly the world is completely unrecognisable from 2007 now
TheSecretIsMarmite@reddit
And the whole of FAANG being huge. The first iPhone was launched mid 2007 so if you can lay your hands on some money you could acquire stocks before Apple gets massive.
zombiezmaj@reddit
You said in your post time traveller not that Id been unexpectedly transported through time
PapaJrer@reddit
You can remember lottery draw numbers from 2007.
Sufficient_Range4466@reddit
Whatever I said, The Simpsons probably already said it
ljr69@reddit
I’d tell them that Apple were about to change the world of mobile phones (assuming i got there just before they announced the first iPhone)
anxioushroom@reddit
Tell the world to not allow the large hadron collider to happen if they don’t want people to go back in time
SwitchFast1029@reddit
I’d bring some sandbags and life jackets then they’d all know in a few weeks time as the 2007 summer floods are coming. I vividly remember being 7 and our ducks were swimming across the garden😂
spinningdice@reddit
Hi old me, I'm you but I have tits now. Listen, you're going to go through some stuff, but it does get better...
abyssal-isopod86@reddit
I wouldn't waste my time.
I'd go to where 2007 me was at the time and give them a run down of how our life turns out and how they can make better choices for ourselves and our son who would be 2yrs old at that time.
JosKarith@reddit
I go talk to my younger self. We have authentication codes for if this ever happens.
CiderChugger@reddit
What number am I thinking of? 69 dude
JosKarith@reddit
Fuck, I'm gonna have to change it now...
Skanedog@reddit
I'd find myself and point out that I'm nearly 20 years older.
Empty_Bell_1942@reddit
Only intelligent answer I've read!
SarkyMs@reddit
But if you meet yourself bad stuff happens, until the story requires you to meet yourself.
Not_Sugden@reddit
depends whether the plot requires it
smedsterwho@reddit
Or good stuff, if you're both horny
_FreddieLovesDelilah@reddit
I was 9 in 2007….
ExcitementKooky418@reddit
I did do the nasty in the pasty
smedsterwho@reddit
Oooh, a lesson in not changing history from "Mr. I'm-my- own-grandpa"
JonnyredsFalcons@reddit
To pieces you say?
nali_cow@reddit
Cornish pasty right?
JonnyredsFalcons@reddit
Right?
Simbooptendo@reddit
Worth it so I can see my old cats 🤗
The_Blip@reddit
I don't think my younger self would believe me just on looks.
Fortunately I've got a secret time travel code, so I would just say that to my past self and they would believe me.
Plantain-Feeling@reddit
See that's just gonna confuse 7 year old me even fuckin more
Because he's just gonna say something to the effect of "why are you a girl"
As he currently watches girly TV, daydreams of being one and overall has very little human female influence in his life
Lil bro is not prepared for that conversation
Not_Sugden@reddit
Well I would if course use Michael's bracelet that I wear at all times.
deyterkourjerbs@reddit
I prepare for this in the shower. So stuff like remembering that Joseph James DeAngelo was the Golden State Killer or the location of Osama Bin Laden. I'm much better prepared for time periods before 2001 though.
Willing_Coconut4364@reddit
Pretty sure I could convince my mother pretty quickly. I'd ask to stay there for a few weeks and make some big money.
RegrounddTeam@reddit
I wouldnt tell anyone im a time traveller. I would just enjoy my time without all the smartphone, social media, scrolling dumbshit... I would engage with people and build real life connections.
datageek9@reddit
If it’s right at the beginning of the year (New Years Day), I would say “In 8 days time Steve Jobs is going to announce a widescreen iPod with touch controls, a revolutionary phone, and a breakthrough Internet communicator. It’s one device, it’s called the iPhone and it’s going to change the world”.
Pan-tang@reddit
You should be able to make some clever investments and have a good idea how politics is going to dictate events
Bannakka@reddit
I've thought about this scenario from the perspective of an average person a lot over the years, but I think I finally have it.
A YouTube channel with film and TV spoilers. Would take a while for the channel to gain traction, but as soon as people noticed that you'd revealed the entire plot of, say, Star Trek 2009, in a video in 2007 would be fascinating. Then you'd just keep spoiling movies and stuff and never be wrong.
SaturnMoth@reddit
I'd find a man with a lot to learn about herself. I'm pretty sure the tits would be a dead giveaway.
MCL-Jonathan@reddit
Tell them to buy Bitcoin
ironicallyshitename@reddit
I'm not sure if this question was inspired by the episode or not but The Rest is Science podcast has recently done an episode about just this. Although they do count on being able to take one special slap bracelet with them.
Well worth a listen if the subject interests you: https://youtu.be/6AvDME9Ti2E?si=yFg4hq_MbLwWSVn8
Weak_Mechanic8517@reddit (OP)
‘Twas!
IntelligentAlps605@reddit
I would lowkey go and watch myself being born
bowak@reddit
I'd put my "prediction" for Christmas No1 2009 in a sealed box that wouldn't be opened until Rage beat X Factor in that glorious moment.
Akytaky@reddit
I'd sing Sanremo songs before they're released
GreatChaosFudge@reddit
“America’s going to elect a black man as president. No, not some day. Next year.”
Obama was a known figure in 2007, and many thought he would be a strong candidate for nominee. It was still widely assumed that Hillary Clinton would be on the final ballot, however.
toady89@reddit
Go and find the 19 year younger version of myself, nobody is going to believe I'm anything but a time traveller.
mhoulden@reddit
"Don't let Savile go anywhere in a public building unless it's covered by covert CCTV."
Weak_Mechanic8517@reddit (OP)
not sure if that would prove you're a timetraveller but would make you a hero LOL
mhoulden@reddit
The rumours were always there. If they could get hold of enough evidence to prosecute while he was still alive it probably would make Yewtree look like a tiny twig.
The_Jazz_Doll@reddit
There were rumours and then there was the BBC knowing about it and sweeping it under the rug until his death.
ancientestKnollys@reddit
Him being a pedophile was known quite widely, well beyond the BBC. I know among many Oxford University students in the early 90s it was common knowledge.
timangus@reddit
Weirdly specific.
ancientestKnollys@reddit
It's a personal anecdote, from someone there at the time.
Jumpy-Jello-@reddit
Very common knowledge in Leeds too.
ExcitementKooky418@reddit
And by sweeping you mean aiding and by under the rug you mean aberting
Dapper-Lab-9285@reddit
Unless you came back with evidence then you would just be spending more rumours. The authorities ignored the victims why would they listen to a crazy person who claims to be from the future?
DoctorOctagonapus@reddit
You'd never find any evidence. What he was doing was an open secret at the BBC, and they were actively covering it up. Blowing the whistle was basically asking for a P45.
apple_kicks@reddit
Even if you got evidence he had police partying at his apartment and bffs with the royals and other establishment figures
TachiH@reddit
I mean 2007 is a bit late to solve that problem, he was on deaths door by then.
ramapyjamadingdong@reddit
I mean what a year...
In May alone Maddy McCann went missing and Tony Blair stepped down as pm, Chelsea won the FA Cup and the Long ridge factory reopened.
Featheredchef@reddit
My family has a joke theory that I've been there done that 🤣 Basically, in 2020 my mum's friends shared a photo they took with a random lass who looks exactly like me at a club in back in 1990. I was born in 95, so we made a running joke that I'm gonna be one of the first time travelers and this is how I left myself evidence without causing a paradox or anything.
Funny thing is, try as we might neither us or the friends in the picture have been able to track this lass down. Even with the power of the internet! So the longer this goes on, the more I'm starting to believe our theory 😂
heimatchen@reddit
I wouldn’t want to prove anything. I’d just want to see my nan and grandad again
DiscombobulatedMix20@reddit
I was born in 2007.....
So if I time travelled, I would tell them all the future events I can think about.
anti-sugar_dependant@reddit
The only thing I can remember about that time is the run on Northern Rock, which was September 2007 (I did just look up the date, I thought it was 2008), and then parts of the financial crisis like bankers removing themselves from the earth. Happy days. So I'd predict the 2008 financial crisis, which anyone with the knowledge could have done and many did at the time, but would be fairly impressive for an 18 year old.
Boboshady@reddit
Fingerprints, DNA testing, and some recollection of some upcoming events.
Then it's down to who the people are I'm trying to convince. If it's family, then there's plenty of childhood memories to throw at them. If it's someone I don't know, then it's falling back to predicting the future for them.
But really, I'd just find my earlier self and introduce them to some packing material, painted red, and wait for my new driveway.
gerrineer@reddit
And marry Sarah mulholland j_jones?
TheGreatBatsby@reddit
Yeah, she's me bird.
Neddykins82@reddit
Underrated comment
AndrewHinds67@reddit
They very much had the internet in 2007.
Cool_Doubt2152@reddit
Find my parents and tell them that week’s Euromillions lottery numbers
suspicious-donut88@reddit
I look so much like my mother, my whole family would believe me.
onion2077@reddit
Bitcoin
prankishink@reddit
How in 2007 though? It would be a couple years to come to fruition that Bitcoin was a thing surely. Meanwhile, you could be languishing in a secure facility trying to convince people you're from the future.
northyj0e@reddit
I'm pretty sure bitcoin and the silk road were around by 2007, people were buying and selling 8ths of weed for 2 bitcoin back then.
No_Ring_3348@reddit
BTC wasn't in use until 2009 and I think SR started in 2010, sorry! You could scare the shit out of the research team that invented BTC by sending them their own work though.
girlbossfaithe@reddit
I think I’d just enjoy it
WanderWomble@reddit
Hell I've still got my phone from then. I'd just whip that out.
I'd also warn myself that we'd be getting made redundant the next year!
Bowdin@reddit
I wouldn’t bother trying to convince anyone but the original me.
Once he believed me I would tell him as much as I could remember, he is going to be me again anyway right?
Wait, did I just split the timeline?
Charming_Figure_9053@reddit
Find 2007 me and we can run some DNA
Glittering_Stock3475@reddit
Oh I wouldn't bother. If I have all the knowledge I have now, I would just do my whole life differently. In 2007 I was 19, plenty of time for me to forge a great career, buy bitcoin, invest, buy a house, change some relationships and just do the last 20 years of my life different, for the better.
GreenhousePlum@reddit
I wouldn't care about proving it, I'd just quietly by as many houses as I could at the much cheaper rates of the time, then I'd be set for life.
PeacekeeperAl@reddit
Go and see people I know, or myself, and say like fucking hell
namtaruu@reddit
Well I'm older by 20 years so I'd just find someone who knows me.
bartread@reddit
I mean, I'd be (and look) nearly 20 years older so I think they might be able to tell something was going on.
sfkf8486@reddit
If visiting yourstlf is allowed I'd just go and tell myself the answer to the question i have to ask myself if i ever time travel backwards
Glittering_Win_5085@reddit
Am I in the body of my 2007 self or my 2026 self?
hootersm@reddit
I mean, the grey hairs would be a stark contrast to 2007 me.
0hden@reddit
I don't think I could because I wouldn't remember enough lol. Like sure you could tell them the general info on who will win elections but is that really going to prove anything? No way I'd be able to remember lottery numbers for specific days either
Present_Air_7694@reddit
I saw that Rest is Science podcast recently too. CRAPPO LAZY POST.
Dry-Monk-7254@reddit
Why would you want people to know?
AlternativePea6203@reddit
Buy bitcoin, and some nice pcs to mine it. Then with the money invent a "special super duper gold elevator, only available to special people"..... with a retractable floor... No one will know to thank me, but I will know.
Maester_Bates@reddit
My question is why do I need to prove I am a time traveller? I was quite famous in my hometown in 2007 and even had a fanclub made up of girls aged 18 to 21. Can I not just enjoy myself in a time before social media took over the world? Do I have to avoid my 2007 self or can I communicate with him/me?
SoupieLC@reddit
Go and find my young self and say "look, that's me when I was this age and this is me now, let's get a DNA test"
Odd-Champion-7836@reddit
I would tell them how Harry Potter ends (providing it was early enough in 2007 that the last book was not out when I land)
AluminiumSandworm@reddit
it's important to have a secret code with oneself for such an occasion.
bahumat42@reddit
Probably explain the upcoming financial crisis.
I know just enough about MBS, cdo's and credit default swaps to point people in the right direction.
Current_Thing2244@reddit
I was a fully grown adult in 2007 (believe it or not we had the internet everywhere back then!). I'd just find 2007 me and either prove or disprove the paradox after we recorded a YouTube video together.
Not_Wrong_Tho@reddit
YouTube comments:
"Probably just cousins or his uncle or something"
"Fake"
"Fake and gay"
"Who actually buys this shit lol?"
"Like you can't just find some random dude who looks like you and claim your a time traveller lol"
"!!!>>>!!!!BUY RUNESCALE GOLD HERE!!!<<<<!!!"
Current_Thing2244@reddit
Very good points. And, thinking on it, 2007 me would very much say most of that to 2026 me 😂
Nevernonethewiser@reddit
I wouldn't.
Just quietly buy some key stocks, short a few more and make a few modest bets on things if I can remember the outcomes. That way I'm just lucky.
If I bang on about being from the future and then get very rich in the same way, someone is going to find a way to prove it because the very rich don't like it when a peasant tries to join their ranks.
Someone will figure out how I travelled in time then use it as proof to have me arrested for insider trading and whatever else they can pin on me.
The most heinous of crimes: theft of money.
RaggamuffinTW8@reddit
I buy one of Michael from vsauces slap bracelets today to help me navigate this exact situation.
Super-Craig@reddit
Probably just call the Biotech company I work for, and share my comprehensive knowledge of several highly sophisticated and undisclosed R&D projects currently in development, and many hundreds more yet to be devised.
Wandering_ENTJ@reddit
Why not just win the lottery and prove it that way?
audigex@reddit
Because most people can't remember a single set of lottery numbers, never mind having one available for a specific date they happen to land in via time travel
Something like a lottery win would only work if you had fore-knowledge of the travelling back in time and the date you'd arrive
Whereas knowing about something that's only under super-secret development today would work for quite a long chunk of recent history
Figgzyvan@reddit
How would you remember the numbers?
Super-Craig@reddit
I'd need prep time for that. The only lottery numbers I actually remember off by heart are the 1760th draw from the third November 2012 (5, 9, 7, 17, 20, 45, 10) because someone drilled it into me. However, that's a full five years after I got displaced in time, my way is a lot faster and significantly more profitable.
hairlikebrianmay@reddit
Why would you want people to know?
Weak_Mechanic8517@reddit (OP)
why is reddit so adverse to hypotheticals
Silly-Industry1527@reddit
There is this really annoying tendency to try and outsmart the question posed by OP and it is annoying as fuck.
Amazing-Visual-2919@reddit
You should ask that question too.
Hot_Salamander_4363@reddit
The rest is science had an interesting debate on this recently. The problem is that your predictions about the future might change the future and not come true. They proposed going back with our current knowledge of where lost treasures if the past are. They even had a thing you could wear that had the dates and locations of major archaeologicaly discoveries so you could go back to 1950 and say I know exactly where the titanic is 35 years before it was discovered, but if you turn up in 1989 you know everyone knows where that is so your day I know where xyz is instead.
DB-DanCooper@reddit
I couldn't. My mother might find it a little unusual though.
lasdun@reddit
Assuming were arriving on 1st Jan 2007, in my current condition, with no belongings, and that I can't meet myself, or family or friends.
You've not got any money for any of these bets/stocks ideas. So they are all out.
I don't remember the specific events clearly enough be very useful. I know Northern Rock goes bust and the financial crisis starts, but not which day, not the precise trigger, that's about it. I don't recall anything about sport, politics or culture that I am 100% was in 2007 that would prove it.
I could start piecing together a list of things I remember but that have not happened yet. But it's going to be slow and unconvincing.
My best idea:
I'm thinking that we need to find a biologist and somehow convince them to look in my blood for antibodies to a previously undiscovered respiratory illness caused by a coronavirus. No one else on the planet should have these, and that plus a fairly detailed account of what happened in 2020 might convince them. I can offer them a basic understanding of mRNA vaccination techniques as well, as an incentive.
Jimmyboro@reddit
Tell the to short the housing market.
tykeoldboy@reddit
I wouldn't tell anyone that the Lib Dems would form a coalition government in 3 years time because people would think I was nuts. I would buy shares in SpaceX, Facebook and Amazon
TheSecretIsMarmite@reddit
I'm not convincing anyone I'm a time traveller. What I am going to do is text myself that baby group is cancelled on a certain Tuesday morning so that I don't rush down the stairs because I'm going to be late and break my leg.
Sxn747Strangers@reddit
When was Frankie Dettori’s 7 wins Grand National?
ServerLost@reddit
Go and find the young version of myself and tell him to avoid lets call her Susan Susanson like the plague.
TheFannyHammer@reddit
I remember in 2007 Middlesbourgh beat Man City 8-1, I reckon that would be convincing enough. City were no where near what they are now but better than Boro at the time.
DiamondL0st@reddit
Afonso Alves hat trick that day... something that would seem completely unbelievable the next season when he couldn't score to save his life.
Jayce1976@reddit
someones listened to the rest in science podcast
CityOfNorden@reddit
Football is probably the only way, but it'd be a long play.
"Liverpool will lose the Champions League Final to AC Milan, 2-1. Inzaghi will score both for Milan, next season will be the first all English final, Man United will beat Chelsea on penalties, John Terry will slip on his arse whilst taking the crucial one. Also, Rochdale will lose the play off final at Wembley, after beating Darlington on penalties in the semi. David Perkins will score a beauty to take it to extra time."
I reckon people would be pretty convinced after that.. 😂
mannyrerobate@reddit
I would use Michael Stevens slap band with the names/ dates/ co-ordinates of world famous lost items that have been found in the modern day but we're not found in 2007. 😂
I saw the video you got this from yesterday 😂
Mintie-Mint@reddit
"In two years there is going to be a horrible flood. I'd get those defenses started sooner rather than later"
adreddit298@reddit
I wouldn't give two hoots about proving anything. I'd bet £5,000 on Leicester to win the Premiership every year they're in it, until they win in 2016. Then I'd buy £1m of bitcoin.
Zealousideal-Low3388@reddit
I’d assume the 100% DNA match and identical scars to a local 14 year old in a tiny village would do it.
tracey-ann12@reddit
I have two more scars on my right knee from a fall I had that resulted in an orthopeadic surgeon removing damaged cartilage from my knee two years later at age 16 through keyhole surgery, so while I do have the same scars on my knee as 14 year old me, the me at 14 would most likely keep asking where those two extra scars came from.
mmoonbelly@reddit
Our town’s going to have massive changes.
They’s dug up the high street and made it pedestrian and put chairs outside the Swan.
ZeroFrogsHere@reddit
From South Yorkshire.
Depending on the month I would alert police that a 14 year old lad has just bunked schoolvand gotten a train to London without his parents knowledge.
Andrew Gosden, you aren't forgotten about. A lot of locals and especially your family think about you every day. They deserve answers.
Thevinegarmanreturns@reddit
I would just go and speak the my grandad for a few months before the dementia took him
tracey-ann12@reddit
I was fourteen at the time and my school was building another school for everyone at our school to move to. So I'd probably tell myself to start saving as much as I can and to learn another language (prefrebly Korean as I like K-Pop) and to get out as soon as I can because my hometown pretty much becomes a ghost town and the fact that I've only recently started properly saving money in the last 3 months. I'd also tell myself not to start smoking at around the age of sixteen so that I can save up more money.
hunsnet457@reddit
There’s a few old scandals in my neighbourhood that I didn’t learn about til my 30s and are never spoken about, so I could just reveal them all.
AlucardVTep3s@reddit
What’s the rule of the time travel? Am I sent back to my 2007 body? Or does 2007 little me exist but 2026 me is now present?
ouzo84@reddit
I've got friends I've known since 2007, and definitely family.
My sense of humour I feel would be sufficient. My karaoke choices would cement it. Also, I haven't changed my look, so I'd just look like an older version of me.
InfectedEllie@reddit
"predict the 2008 olympic winners.
Abouts1x@reddit
I’d invest in apple and Netflix and not care if people believed me.
Plodo99@reddit
Netflix? You’ll be waiting about 7 years to 10x, so best case you have like 10,000 to spend you’re not even getting 100k by 2014.
TachiH@reddit
Make an absolutely huge amount on the stock market, then head on down to Wuhan and either buy and close the lab or teach people eating bats ain't great by paying them to stop.
Potential-Bird-5826@reddit
I'm not sure why I'd want to, but predicting the 2008 financial crash and the rise of bitcoin would probably be it
Bethlizardbreath@reddit
I’d finally understand that I am my own doppelgänger from around that time that a surprisingly large number of people reported meeting, while never finding out her name and I wasn’t ever confused for this person.
So I guess I’d just bum around being startled by people I barely remember recognising me and forget what I was supposed to be doing in the past.
sneddsdead@reddit
I'd keep my mouth shut, bet against the housing market and start mining bitcoin for fun!
CountySuccessful4879@reddit
You'd become a Circus freak. Better to stay stumm.
L-0-T-H-0-S@reddit
This is a world building exercise, yes...? You fundamentally can't.
Say I hold in my hand a shiny new pound coin I'm about to flip and that Iwager you, if you can call the outcome correctly, you win the coin.
I flip the coin, you call HEADS - Oh, jolly bad luck, its TAILS.
Fortunately for you I'm a time traveler and so I offer you the use of my time machine, thus giving you the opportunity to pop back a few seconds and use your knowledge as someone from the future to guess the outcome correctly.
You pop back in time, after I flip the coin this time (from your persepectve) you call TAILS - TAILS it is, hearty congratulations!
One question - do you win the coin because of your knowledge of the "future" or, do you win it through just blind, random luck, sam eas if you never traveled back through time at all...?
Obviously, in order for you to use time travel to cheat, you'd have to pop back in time considerably further than just a few seconds. In order to impersonate your "past self" you'd have to intercept your "past self" before even meeting me.
Given one's perspective as a time traveler you might call that a "change" to past events or else call it a Predetermination Paradox...
Fancy though the lable may be, does it inform you whether you call the outcome correctly through your knowlegde of the "future" or is it just blind random luck?
From a point of view where time travel doesn't exist, the "past" as we view it is fixed - however, if you could physically travel to (whatever) point in the "past" (from your perspective) the instant you arrive the reality you exist in is no longer fixed: normal physical laws apply - up still remains up, down remains down and the outcome of a coin coming down one side over the other remains 50/50 with a miniscule possibility of it landing on its edge.
Those odds never change, it doesn't matter where you are in time or when, from your frame of reference.
Thus, if you were to travel back in time this way to be physically present to witness past events as they unfold - such as the outcome of a coin flip, for example - you basically have no way to determine whether your ability to call the outcome correctly is because of your so-called knowledge of "future" events or whether or whether its just down to blind random luck, same as if you never stepped into a time machine.
If you can be physically present at some point in "the past" - from your point of reference - so too can some other time traveler, including yourself - you literally have no way of determining whether where you are is the "actual" past as it actually happened, or some close parallel either created by by yourself or some other time traveler deliberately or else as a means to ensure the correctr sequence of events happens in order to ensure they can return to whatever point in time and space they originated from.
Best you ever get is a close parallel - there's no physical way of determining which, other than steering the hell away from time travel.
Unfortunately - personal abstinence doesn't guarantee so other time traveler showed up, either advertantly or else otherwise inadvertently creating the reality in which you currently exist....
And all that's just over a simple coin toss.
You can't predict with any accuracy events as they happened in your original timeline will happen in the "past" unless you your elf become instrumental in their coming about.
In which case. again - if you can be physically present in the past in order to whiteness history as it's supposed to have unfurled - so to can some other dick with a time machine, including you.
Do you see the inherent problem?
Everything comes down to whether time is Linear (The Block Universe) or Branching (Many-Worlds interpretation) - and neither give you the tools unnecessarily to determine which, not even time travel itself.
Thus, you have no way to prove anything about your time travel status - unless you yourself personally engineer events to unfold in the way your version of history suggests they do.
Its kind of a thing with history. History as its taught isn't fact so much as a consensus of opinion based on whatever evidence supporting whatever mechanic exists - even through your own life time, the interpretation of how specific historical events actually took place changes, the more new evidence concerning them emerges to support whatever consensus.
History in the broad strokes remains untouched - Hitler annexe's Poland 16 days before the Soviets annex the Baltic States in most timelines your ever going to encounter, but the specific mechanics of those events changes over time as more evidence to support one interpretation emerges over whatever currently existing one.
In short - you can't use time travel or knowledge of "the future" to accurately predict the mechanics of specific historical events, only history in its broadest strokes: like calling the outcome of a coin toss correctly, you don't know why your right, only that that's what happened and have no actual clue what the actual mechanics governing that outcome were.
caspararemi@reddit
Someone else was enjoying The Rest is Science over lunch! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AvDME9Ti2E for anyone else interested.
I don't have an answer, but I really enjoyed the discussion about how difficult it is as you haven't memorised anything that could prove it, and anything you could 'guess' could be explained away as you being an insider or cheat. Knowing the lottery numbers, or who wins a sports match, or the next number one music release could be fixed or be insider info or just be a lucky guess.
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Just commenting so I can find the link tonight.
Crusty_White_Baton@reddit
Do the Big Short!
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Im unsure how.
I need Margot Robbie to explain it to me in the bath.
gstar1664@reddit
I'd probably just ask my mum not to die...I mean she still would, but on her deathbed she'd be like "He knew this would happen - he must be a time traveller!". That would be early 2007 too, so it'll only take a few weeks 'til I can prove it
JamesTiberious@reddit
Recall events that haven’t happened yet
Weak_Mechanic8517@reddit (OP)
but then they've got to wait for those events to unfold. how could you instantly prove?
JamesTiberious@reddit
Why the rush?
Weak_Mechanic8517@reddit (OP)
because they wouldn't believe you were a time traveller, think if someone came up to you today and said btw in 2040 this is gonna happen.. you wouldn't believe them lol
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In 2007 you could tell them about the credit crunch next year
Amazing-Visual-2919@reddit
Jeez. Time travelers. Always SO impatient. You'd think out of everyone - they'd have more time on their hands.
Rhesus-Positive@reddit
I don't know if I could remember anything specific from 2007, so I'd be waiting a long time to be proved right
This is why sports fans are the best time travellers
JamesTiberious@reddit
Yeah I’d need to revise and memorise some key dates before making the journey.
VolcanicBear@reddit
I would explain that I'm there instead of at university because I'm me from the future.
Also I'm definitely greying, and quite obviously not 21 anymore.
Boboshady@reddit
So you're an older person that looks a lot like you? Bit of a loony?
TrifectaOfSquish@reddit
I wouldn't as it would disrupt the timeline potentially
Hydramy@reddit
Go to my house, find my younger self, tell them the passwords I was using online at the time.
Andries89@reddit
Predict the #1 hits for 2007 and 2008 each month
LionOfTheIsles@reddit
Just name the next presidents, a food fad, social media fad etc etc. there are many ways! I would t want to prove that to anyone tho …. You would never be seen again
Weak_Mechanic8517@reddit (OP)
but they've got to wait for those things to happen, is there a way you could convince someone quickly?
LionOfTheIsles@reddit
How quickly? If I had a chance I would take winning lottery results from that year and months and take them with me. (PS the downvotes on a hypothetical scenario are absolutely hilarious 😆)
Weak_Mechanic8517@reddit (OP)
but someone could win the lottery tomorrow and it doesnt make them a time traveller!
LionOfTheIsles@reddit
There is no convincing you. You would clearly be naysayer!
Weak_Mechanic8517@reddit (OP)
you're just giving shite examples
LionOfTheIsles@reddit
Give us all a good one then and don’t be a knob about it
Weak_Mechanic8517@reddit (OP)
imagine thinking reddit usernames have any merit lol
LionOfTheIsles@reddit
Still waiting on your example? Stop avoiding the question.
sonicated@reddit
Your presence may affect the future so those events may not happen.
LionOfTheIsles@reddit
Shit…. Marty, you’re right!
JamesTiberious@reddit
Absolutely. I’d be more concerned about exploiting my future knowledge for huge financial gains and getting set up with my own private island.
Rocinante23@reddit
Wait a few months and buy Bitcoin
Glittering_Habit_161@reddit
I'll just say Tracy Beaker Returns is a good sequel to The Story of Tracy Beaker (show).
DarthScabies@reddit
I have tattoos of important dates to me. 😂
Historical_Project86@reddit
If I have my memory then I have that week's lottery numbers. So I would say "watch this mofos" and become rich beyond my wildest dreams.
It would be really frustrating if you got the week wrong and actually no one won that week, so if you'd waited a week or more you would have won more money.
LadyInAllPower@reddit
It would take time but you’d need to predict some major events. Unless of course that stopped them occurring!
ArcadeCrossfire@reddit
I honestly don’t think I could. I know things have happened in the last 20 years but I couldn’t tell you what happened, when it happened or where it happened
MiserablePool1725@reddit
My greys and wrinkles might give it away!
Leeeeeroy-Jenkins@reddit
There’s a significant amount of events from 2007-2026 that any time traveller could predict with 100% accuracy in advance of them occurring. So there’s that. The implausibility of correct predictions would raise some eyebrows and lead to an investigation. At which point, under scientific involvement, there would be some means in which to determine (probably as a consequence of this happening) that one is not from the same time.
The real question is whether any of this is even possible under the mechanics of time travel (as of yet not proven.) As any attempts to change the past could lead to a paradox that prevents one’s initial travel back in time.
Weak_Mechanic8517@reddit (OP)
again though, these things cannot be proven without the past people waiting years. is there a way you could say or do to prove without banking on the fact they'll remember specific dates you gave them
shak_0508@reddit
I’d rather not be mid slows by the government
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