Curious as to if the Xennial moniker is embraced more by old Millennials or young Xers? Or equal among us?

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ProgExMo@reddit

I (‘83) have Gen-X siblings (‘74, ‘77, & ‘79), so culturally I relate to Gen-X more than Millennials. The Xennial moniker fits me perfectly.

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TSGarp007@reddit

You mean you and your two other xennial siblings have one Gen X sibling.

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facesnorth@reddit

It's not exclusive, though. The 2 middle kids are Xennial, and also Gen X.

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It’s an opinion but I disagree. I remember when I was in high school I was NOT a Gen X (my birth year wasn’t included in Gen X then). I was curious to see what they would call my generation. Then years later they started adding the late 70s into Gen X. That was absurd. We didn’t suddenly become more like them, we became less like them.

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facesnorth@reddit

Who's "they" though? There's always been different commentators on this stuff, they aren't any more authorities on it than you or I.

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TSGarp007@reddit

They refers to the news. It’s all made up of course. But back then no one was calling my generation Gen X.

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facesnorth@reddit

Well I don't know what year you were born, but in my experience I've never not been considered Gen X. 80-81 or so may have been in flux between X/Y for a few years, and still not everyone agrees. The 'news' is probably the least relevant source for anything on this.

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TSGarp007@reddit

It was the only source for normal people back then. I’m not talking about now. They would have historians and sociologists etc on during news segments and have similarly sourced articles in print. I’m not talking about Fox News opinion pieces of the 2020’s. I’m talking around mid 90s.

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facesnorth@reddit

I've been interested in generationology since I was a teenager, which means throughout basically the entirety of the 90s. In all honesty, I don't really know what it is you've been trying to say with your past few comments, so I'm going to stop engaging now.

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TSGarp007@reddit

Just that from everything I heard as a kid in the 90s I wasn’t part of Gen X. Then after I already grew up I found out the commonly accepted age range for Gen X has shifted to include me, which confused me. That’s it.

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facesnorth@reddit

Which I have trouble understanding, because I've never heard anyone else on here say that before. I've heard plenty of people say that they thought they were Gen X, and then later everything said that they were really Millennials, not Gen X. But I never heard anyone say they were not considered Gen X, and later are. I always knew I was Gen X and still am, although I am now realizing there are also these overlapping cusp micro-generations. Your experience is your experience, and nobody can take that away from you, I just can't relate or understand it.

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TSGarp007@reddit

I remember the idea 1977 and on were going to be a follow-on generation, with people calling it Gen Y b/c they had no other name for it. It was an unsettled idea of what to call the next generation. I guess I took that as me NOT being in Gen X and it stuck with me. I didn't go to libraries to research the generations. And even though I soon (if not already) had AOL dial up and could have done some kind of early internet research on it I guess, I never bothered to. Then again the fact that as a youth I could get to the internet pretty solidly tells me I am not Gen X lol. Never looked into it again until years later and then every time I saw Gen X defined it pretty clearly included me, even though clearly I disagree (far too strongly for something that doesn't matter one bit at all!).

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facesnorth@reddit

We just had very different experiences and memories about it. I've been interested in this stuff since I was a kid, and 77-78 was always considered Gen X. 77 was never thought of as part of the next Gen, according to my memories. 79, maybe. 80-81, most definitely. But I never saw or heard any source ever consider 77 to not be the tail end of X.

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TSGarp007@reddit

My informal bubble on that issue was certainly small…

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kissmeimfamous@reddit

You actually have two Xennial siblings

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ProgExMo@reddit

True, but they are certainly more X than Xennial

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facesnorth@reddit

They're certainly not more X than Xennial. They are Xennial, and also X. They are not any more of one than the other.

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ProgExMo@reddit

I meant, personality- & sociability-wise they are Gen-X.

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facesnorth@reddit

Ahh okay gotcha, understood.

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TinyRandomLady@reddit

Dude same! You are like bazzaro me! ‘83 youngest with 3 genx sibs almost the same years. Always leaned more genx and xennial fits way better than millennial.

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Puzzleheaded_Race_90@reddit

My two older brothers are slightly older than yours, and you're telling my story, my friend. I feel like i was grandfathered into gen x, even though I'm in there by all counts. I'm end of 79 so I'm right in the cusp, but i don't fit either side for various reasons

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Same_Bug5069@reddit

'85 and same (70, 72, & 77). Baby boomer parents raised me the same. Latchkey kid, had a paper route, NES was my first system, VCR, no cell until after high school, etc.

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ProgExMo@reddit

^ I feel seen

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Charming_Ad1688@reddit

Wait what?

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HopelesslyHuman@reddit

Same. No older siblings but all my friends and older brother "figures" were Gen-X and I got all my entertainment and cultural cues from them. Fast forward 20 years though and socially I'm far more in line with younger millennials now really, and most of my current friends are a decade younger than me, and none of them get my references and rag on me because when I was graduating high school they were 8, therefore a lot of things go over their heads.

Still. Good people and happy to associate with like-minded folk, even if they only know Edward 40-Hands as a tv reference, not something they did in college.

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Foxy_locksy1704@reddit

I’m an older millennial (42 years old) so I relate more the the xennial designation. I was 13 in ‘97, I remember the 1990s as I was growing up in it. To me the 90-early 2000s were my time of development.

I saw a post recently that was talking about the “scene kids” and their emo music and style. I was never part of that when all that came in to style I was in college already. But my younger brother born in ‘92 had friends that were part of that counter culture. So for the younger millennials that was a big stage in their age group, but for me it was just younger people expressing their alternative style, not a defining part of my development.

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DCpurpleTart33@reddit

I'm so on the cusp I don't even know which group I fall into more so that's why I'm HERE 😉

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RJRoyalRules@reddit

I think its purpose was primarily to delineate this specific group of people who are cuspers, since it's a cohort with a unique experience. I definitely don't have anything in common with Gen Xers who were born in the late 60s or millennials who were born in the late 90s.

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fryerandice@reddit

For Millenials it's really just people who wish they were in their late teens in the heart of the 90s instead of being tweens. I mean I staunchly wish I was as well.

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Necessary-Duty-7952@reddit

Same. And on top of it, I work in a "young" industry, so even as I've gotten older, I've identified more with my younger colleagues than older Gen Xers.

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Kid_Kameleon@reddit

Exactly it was made into a microgeneration because of the unique experience of basically having the Internet split your childhood into two halves……

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Jonestown_Juice@reddit

I really don't care about the label and I don't think I've ever discussed it in meatspace. I just like discussing stuff with people who get my references here.

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SignificantApricot69@reddit

This made me think of meatspin

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Kade7596@reddit

thanks, now i'm thinking of it

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ZaphodBeeblebrahx@reddit

You just lost the game.

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Kade7596@reddit

it's fine, i have infinite respawns in the game, apparently :\

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likesblackcoffeebest@reddit

Yeah I've only heard it said once in person, and the guy who said that pronounced it "zennial" so I had no idea what he was talking about at first lol

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facesnorth@reddit

I never heard it pronounced any other way.

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Ishvale@reddit

gif

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vajrasana@reddit

They’re Made Out of Meat!

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lost_horizons@reddit

Phenomenal reference, I love that one. Also happy cake day!

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driventhin@reddit

I fully identify as an Xennial and not a Gen Xer (even though I’m a 1978 baby) because I associate Gen X with those that were 80s teens and not us that were 80s kids. My aunt is 11 years older than me and she was a full teenager in the 80s when I was still a little kid and I don’t think is of as the same generation. I used to say I was Gen Y but then that became a term associated with millennials, which I’m not. So Xennial fits nicely. 😊

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Door_in_Mirror@reddit

I still just call myself a millennial. Elder millennial if wanting to specify more.

I've never used the term xennisl, I'm just here because it definitely hits my age bracket better than other generational subs.

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FatReverend@reddit

Hard to say for me. From 81 half my life I was considered the last year for x then they changed it to first year for millennials. So I was always kinda neither.

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guyincognito121@reddit

Yes, we 81s are the purest of Xennials.

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blamberr@reddit

Millennia fits better than GenX for me, but still doesn’t fit

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VVrayth@reddit

LOL you have the best flair.

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blamberr@reddit

It was the defining phrase of my youth

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wanna_be_green8@reddit

Your pic had me wiping my screen. More coffee!

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VVrayth@reddit

GOTTEM

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luxtabula@reddit

I'm glad I'm not the only one that remembers that. I don't remember being called millennial until after the recession.

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MissMushroomBerry@reddit

Same. I remember when in the 90’s they started talking about Gen X and I thought ‘yeah that’s me’ but then I suddenly wasn’t. Kind of like the feeling when you would see the movie ‘Problem Child 2’ and the boy couldn’t get on a ride because he needed to be of a certain height so they closed the gate on him. But I don’t really relate to Millennials either, it’s a weird in between.

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MiserableDistance622@reddit

84 here. I'll buy into xennial on here, but in person im always gen y.

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facesnorth@reddit

Gen Y and Millennial are the same thing. But I don't subscribe to any authoritarians ideas on Generational names or boundaries.... It's so personal that we can make our own rules to some degree.

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PopularSet4776@reddit

Just my personal opinion I think it is used more by old millennials.

I think it is because a lot of old millenials had Gen X experiences so you don't fully feel millenial. But I don't think old Gen X would see themselves as having millenial experiences.

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facesnorth@reddit

Definitely not older Gen X, but some younger Gen X can relate as much or more to Millennials than to older Gen X. Hence, Xennials...

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rgthunder1@reddit

Born in 77 so I’m the old timer of this group however I don’t feel like I can relate to the older Gen Xers who were born in the early/mid 60’s.

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facesnorth@reddit

Same. I think a lot depends on how old your parents and siblings were, as well as your peer groups. Some of my classmates had older siblings and hung out with older kids and I think they can relate a lot more to Gen X.

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Roland-Of-Eld-19@reddit

Dont really use the label in real life but I really enjoy this group as a Nostalgia zone and place to speak with people my age

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YourOwnPunkyBrewster@reddit

Exactly, me too—and how does one pronounce Xennial when actually speaking anyway😅?!, they assume you mean Zennial, as in Gen Z, and then there has to be a whole explanation…and, no thank you

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facesnorth@reddit

I've never heard anyone refer to them as Zennials. Zillenials, occasionally. Nobody is ever going to confuse you with a Gen Z.

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RockShowSparky@reddit

same.

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DefinitionSuperb1110@reddit

I've only ever used to when explaining that I'm NOT a gen xer.

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Adventurous_Pin_344@reddit

I TOTALLY agree!! My boss is a Gen Xer who will rail on millennials because he always assumes I'm Gen X...

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Dark_Shroud@reddit

Dont really use the label in real life

Same.

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Striking-Access-236@reddit

I'm best of both and neither...

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Scooter_McGavin_9@reddit

I never felt connected to Gen X. I remember reading articles in middle school calling Gen X slackers and thinking, I am just a kid. Why are you attacking me? So I have always attached myself to Xennials once I learned of the group.

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likesblackcoffeebest@reddit

In my observation it used to be mostly people who were GenX but wanted to align with the younger generation. Like I know someone who exemplifies it fully. She was born in 1976, insists she's "basically a Millennial", misses every Millennial cultural reference and speaks fluent GenX in a monolingual way. 5 years ago almost everyone I met who aligned with the Xennial thing was like that. Occasionally there were Millennials with older siblings who remember all sorts of 80's pop culture, but mostly it was GenX wanting to feel younger.

I think it's shifting to be a lot more equal within the past 5 years. I was born in Q4 of 1981, graduated in 2000, oldest sibling and cousin, parents that didn't participate in mainstream society, my cultural references begin with whatever I read in Seventeen magazine in the mid-90's, so I felt fully Millennial until I realized how dominant things I have nothing to do with like Harry Potter, anime, and Pokémon are to Millennial culture. That was when I realized, yeah, maybe I am somewhere in the middle. I think there's been some of that in recent years.

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edasto42@reddit

I definitely lean more Gen X. But that sub is weird and leans a lot on the older Gen Xers. I don’t relate. I also find that there’s plenty here I don’t relate to from probably the more millennial side.

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Adventurous_Pin_344@reddit

The Millennial sub also skews older, which is okay by me as an old millennial, but it's funny because someone born in the nineties recently wrote a post railing on the number of nostalgia posts. I didn't reply, but what I reflected on upon reading the post was: 1) that's completely what generational subs are. If you don't like it, leave and 2) I could tell they were frustrated because they didn't understand the nostalgia references because they were too young.

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edasto42@reddit

My biggest issue with the Gen X sub wasn’t the references at all. I got all those. I just got tired of the superiority complex a lot of that generation gets. Ok you drank out of a garden hose, what have you done lately? But the biggest thing that drive me nuts was how conservative and conservative coded it is. Which I think might be due to the older part of that gen being a bit on the conservative side

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Adventurous_Pin_344@reddit

Oof, yeah, that would be a turn off for me too!!

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wantonseedstitch@reddit

I'm a young Gen Xer. I embrace the Xennial label because a fair bit of the pop culture stuff that Gen Xers identify with from their childhoods, I was too young to enjoy when it first came out. For example: my husband is eight years older than I am. He saw original trilogy Star Wars movies in the theater (I think Empire and RotJ). I was only three when RotJ came out, so that was a no for me.

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veglove@reddit

Old Millenials and young Xers are the same thing. The Xennial years overlap with both the end of Gen X and the start of the Millenials.

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temporary_bob@reddit

Young X'er here. I like it. But I DEFINITELY do not consider myself any kind of Millennial.

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Small-Bright-Things@reddit

I refer to myself as an "elder millennial" over an xennial.

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theloop82@reddit

I am an 82 kid dating an 86 kid and we have a lot of common references but I think 85 is the dividing line where you drop the elder part (I’m not gatekeeping you do you) just because your Oregon trail was 16 color and mine was green screen monochrome

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selkus_sohailus@reddit

I was born 88 but went to a poor rural school in texas, so we had green screen 😂

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delldarlin@reddit

I don't use the moniker really—partly because I was born '76 and never seem to get sorted into *any* gen, but also because I have no idea how to pronounce the word "xennial" and it's too awkward to ask now.

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FatReverend@reddit

Nobody knows and were not supposed to talk about it.

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SubstanceNo1544@reddit

Its the first rule of xennial club

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Pretend-Menu-8660@reddit

And the 2nd rule….

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delldarlin@reddit

…is 'nobody better lay a finger on my butterfinger.'

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Ishvale@reddit

75, and I pronounce it with a z

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delldarlin@reddit

Xennialz?

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vajrasana@reddit

Careful, your Millenial is showing…🙃

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the1truestarr@reddit

Lmao- and I say "X"-ennial, ofc

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TijayesPJs443@reddit

‘83 here and always happy to help an old timer - its pronounced: zen-e-all

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ADHDFeeshie@reddit

As an elder millennial I suspect you're right, though it's mostly based on vibes and not any real statistics. I think xennial was first introduced (to me at least) as a term for the oldest millennials who still had a lot of gen x influence, not necessarily the last couple years of gen x. Not saying I wouldn't welcome you guys in, I think there's probably a weird middle ground gray area for every generation (especially those of us with siblings who are technically on the other side of the line), I just think that's how it was marketed. And gen x kind of does their own thing anyway, since they get ignored either way.

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slippedintherain@reddit

See, and as a late Gen Xer I was introduced to the term as specifically for us in the last few years of Gen X plus the first few of millennials! I definitely relate more to the Xennial label than Gen X. I always thought of Gen X as the older kids who were already in high school when I was still in elementary school.

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ADHDFeeshie@reddit

Ha! I guess we're all just getting really precise targeted advertising, huh?

Or maybe my memory is shit, that's a very real possibility.

Gen X feels older to me, too. My brother was born in Jan '80 and I struggle to think of him being in a different generation, he's just my brother. We had very similar childhoods, grew up in a similar culture, with similar technology, we're not that far off in age.

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Jupitersd2017@reddit

My sister was born in 89 and she definitely leans alot more towards xenialls than being a millennial, movie references, music etc, it definitely is also the age of who you grew up with

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Jupitersd2017@reddit

Same, they were the older kids that looked like they walked out of flashdance or Josh brolin in the goonies, they were Gen X. I always felt like I didn’t really belong there or being a millennial but I kind of felt like that was apt because I didn’t really identify with a lot of things about growing up haha.

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slippedintherain@reddit

I swear that for a while we weren’t considered Gen X. I definitely remember being told I was Gen Y, which later became millennials.

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Jupitersd2017@reddit

I think you are right, Gen X was like cobain and maynard etc etc, we were the next generation

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PopularSet4776@reddit

There is a weird middle ground I think with every generation but I would argue it is especially pronounced with people our age due to the massive paradigm shift that computers and the internet created.

We were essentially the first kids on the internet.

I can't be certain of the origins but if I had to guess internet slang and acronyms that are even still used today were likely invented by and popularized by X-ennials.

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Peanut083@reddit

That’s a hard one. My parents were born towards the end of the boomer years, and I have step cousins I spent a lot of time with that are technically Xers, but fall into the Xennial years as well. But I also have a half-brother that was born in 91, so I was exposed to a lot of later Millennial stuff that I otherwise wouldn’t have been. I feel like I understand a lot more Millennial references than Gen X ones, but I don’t neccessarily relate to those Millennial references.

My husband is a solid Gen X, and when we discuss cultural stuff from our childhoods, there’s probably about a 2/3 overlap of things that get mentioned we both relate to. Sometimes he’ll mention stuff that I’m too young to remember being a thing, or I’ll mention something from my childhood that he’s too old to have been into.

I will mention that I remember watching reruns of animated shows that my parents grew up watching, all of which seemed to get pulled from tv at some point in the early-to-mid 00s. Stuff like Looney Tunes and Hanna Barbera cartoons. I feel like if you’re old enough to remember watching those kinds of shows growing up, you’re probably going to identify as an Xennial. I have to say that I liked having the link with my parents of having watched the same kinds of animated shows growing up as my parents did. It’s not something I’ve been able to easily experience and share with my own kids. I’ve had to go out and buy DVD sets to show my kids what I watched growing up.

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fullthrottletomboy@reddit

These are my ppl

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QueenSqueee42@reddit

Same!

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camptastic_plastic@reddit

Also 77 here. I don’t relate to being a Gen Xer much at all but am too old to be a millennial obviously. Xennial feels like a perfect fit.

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fullthrottletomboy@reddit

My hubby is 66 and our life experiences in same gen are very diff other than the lack of supervision, culturally we have little in common with respect to typical genx stuff

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luxtabula@reddit

I don't embrace Gen X, millennial or xennial anymore. I use xennial online among those that understand it, spiritually feel Gen X in exile, and empathize with millennials but don't subscribe to their norms.

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Remy0507@reddit

As a young Xer ('77) I don't especially like the word "Xennial", but I embrace the concept.

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vitaoptima@reddit

I'd say more by Millenials, because outside of this subreddit, I'm a Gen X-er.

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NPC261939@reddit

I accept it, but don't embrace it. I like to say I'm a cynical GenXer who happened to discover avocado toast later in life.

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xxMalVeauXxx@reddit

It's both, that's the thing about teetering between two. Just like really old X'ers vs Boomer have their little pivot group. I don't even know what the new ones are. But I like straddling two generations, two cultures, both experiences.

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JPMoney81@reddit

I only found this place because I was complaining that everything associated with 'millenials' was completely unrelatable to me.

In fairness, I WAS Gen X until they changed the criteria of which years counted.

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wanna_be_green8@reddit

My husband is the youngest Xer and I'm the oldest millennial. We are both Xennial for sure. I think the Millennial side embrace it more because we were in more fragile periods of life during each 'transition.' If that make sense? Less knowledge and resources to ride the tide.

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Mike__O@reddit

I think it's far more common with older millennials than with young GenX. I was born in 83 and I've always felt like the youngest of the generation before me (call it what you will) as opposed to anything having to do with the younger generation after me.

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FoppyRETURNS@reddit

We are millennials who used to be called Gen X.

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PlentyOfMoxie@reddit

I'm a young X-er and I like how xennial defines me.

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bcentsale@reddit

Probably the former. Gen X has the reputation of cool detachment, while Millennial conjures images of whiny, oat milk latte sipping, gentle helicopter parents.

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pismobeachdisaster@reddit

Previous generations were longer than fifteen years. I consider older Millennials Gen X, but some guy writing a book wanted to take advantage of a cool calendar event. Not that the labels matter on a day to day basis.

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nipslippinjizzsippin@reddit

younger millennials who wanna seem cool

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Dark_Shroud@reddit

Yes, born in '83 I'm an elder Millennial that uses the Xennial moniker.

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aweedl@reddit

I’m ‘82, so I guess technically I’m an old millennial, but I’ve never felt like the millennial stereotypes apply to me… and I know I’m too young to be an Xer.

That’s why xennial is perfect. It’s both and neither.

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goater10@reddit

I've been reallocated generations 3 times in my lifetime. I'm choosing Xennial as its the one I represent the most

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desertdweller2011@reddit

the whole point is that it’s both and neither

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the1truestarr@reddit

I was under the impression that what makes an Xennial is that we had an analog childhood, and digital childhood in that the internet launched as we were becoming young adults. And that that's what separates us from Gen X and Millenials.

I remember being a senior in HS and I could still turn in assignments handwritten or typed, but the juniors and rest of the school could only turn in typed assignments. So everyone after us is super digital, and those older than us usually not so much.

I honestly didn't care, however it def seemed to show up socially in odd ways where the only people able to relate at all are y'all/us- anyone even just a couple years older or younger and they have such a different experience that they're unable to relate. Still trips me out a lil sometimes, and I'm super grateful we're a thing. I'd be the younger Gen X I think cuz '77 here.

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Pretend-Menu-8660@reddit

Xennial was introduced to me as “hey you baby Gen Exer- you don’t really fit with your new fan-dangled Oregon Trail and your participation awards and your computers and your feelings” LOL - I feel like we got kicked out and met elder Milennials and were like oh ok… found the right club / the right amount of bike riding, out playing til dusk, computers and some feelings were ok… let’s not go crazy tho

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EIO_tripletmom@reddit

Older Gen Xers seem so old sometimes. I’m ‘76 so who knows where I fit in. I’m the oldest sibling and cousin so I didn’t have much contact with older Gen Xers and I don’t relate to a lot of their experiences. I don’t really remember the 1970s, I was too young. I remember watching 70s TV reruns, but that’s not the same thing as living it.

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mysocalledmayhem@reddit

Elder millennials

I don’t thing Xers would choose to associate with millennials when given a choice

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GeeAyeAreElle@reddit

Elder millenials got tired of being grouped into a lazy, technologically reliant, "dumb" generation. Xennial fits our vibe more because we can relate to the pre-internet, pre-cell phone, pre-call display, throw your kids out for the day, give em a key at 8 to let yourself into the house kind of way. There is a massive difference between old and young millenials due to the technology boom. If we have to have a label, I embrace elder millenial but xennial works well too. 1985.

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Flat-Philosopher8447@reddit

‘82 and don’t identify much with Gen X. Never felt like I was a part of that group. Maybe can indentify more with some millennial tendencies but genuinely just feel separate from both.

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BaronVonNes@reddit

Young Xer, analog childhood, early internet as a teen, fully digital 20s, just doesn't line up with Millennials that grew up on the internet and never knew what it was like to just disappear every time they left the house.

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esocharis@reddit

I'm a young X'r fwiw....def embrace this over either of the other two

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unclebea@reddit

I was born in February 1980 and I’m the youngest. I definitely feel more X than millennial. I’m glad we have our own moniker.

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taleofbenji@reddit

What?? The point of its existence is that we belong to neither group.

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Puzzled-Bonus-3456@reddit

I see me as a pioneer of millennial culture like Stein & Toklas were pioneers of hippie culture. When millenials started gaining their characteristics I was like, finally I'm not alone. I see the term Xennial as referring to this.

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Revolutionary-Fan235@reddit

I have the lucky timings of Gen-X, and the heart of Millennial. It could be an interesting dichotomy.

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Dreamingofapastlife@reddit

I’m just months from being a Millennial, so I guess I’m “Gen X”? But I truly do not identify with either of those groups. I always say I’m a Xennial, and have since it was coined.

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Jenaaaaaay@reddit

I’m 1980, the oldest with two siblings a little bit younger than me. I think I’m peak Xennial.

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LifePedalEnjoyer@reddit

Discussed the xennial moniker with my best friend a while back. We are both tail end Gen x.

He considers it as Gen x erasure. I like the term because old Gen xers tend to be bootlickers and I find them embarrassing.

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Kellzy1212@reddit

It depends on how people grew up. I’m 1980, but i lean millennial because my siblings were 88, 89 and 1991. I don’t have anything in common with X.

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catsoncrack420@reddit

Probably Millennials. Lot of Gen Xers but they never gave a shiit like me. I also grew up working as a teen in uncle's deli and an auto shop, working with older guys so I was kinda raised by their mentality. But I had to learn the Internet despite having no idea why except for research. Early internet was tons of government data, info, for economics data, my stupid major.

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Proud-Zebra9487@reddit

Settled on Millennial

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rangeghost@reddit

When I joined, it felt like it skewed more towards Young Gen Xers, but it's become more balanced with old Millennials now.