Are we looking at a "Monster" El Niño this year?
Posted by ImportantCountry50@reddit | collapse | View on Reddit | 144 comments
The Ghosts of 1877–78
Many people probably haven't heard of the "Great Drought" of 1877. It followed a record-long La Niña, which allowed the Pacific to "recharge" an insane amount of heat. When it finally broke, it triggered a Super El Niño that lasted nearly two years. Coupled with a strong positive Indian Ocean Dipole (+IOD), it caused the monsoon to fail across Asia and Africa. The resulting famine killed roughly 3% of the global population.
The 1997–98 Parallel
We saw a similar "monster" El Niño in 1997. It was the first time we truly saw global temperatures spike in the modern era, leading to massive coral bleaching and record-breaking heat. Like 1877, it was a "perfect storm" where oceanic cycles synchronized to pump maximum heat into the atmosphere.
Why 2026 is Scarier
Observers are noting that we aren't just repeating history, we are amplifying it:
- The Baseline: In 1877, we were at "pre-industrial" temperatures. Today, we are already consistently hitting or exceeding the 1.5°C threshold above pre-industrial.
- The Acceleration: We just came off a moderate El Niño in 2023-24. Usually, the ocean needs years to recharge that heat. The fact that another "super" event is forming so quickly suggests the system is hyper-charged.
- The Triple Whammy: Except, we aren't just dealing with a "super" El Niño. We have a confirmed positive Indian Ocean Dipole and a North Atlantic that has been at record temperatures for over a year.
We are currently seeing another "perfect storm" of climatic events, a "super" El Niño building on a record-warm baseline, a positive Indian Ocean Dipole, and a boiling North Atlantic. The last time these factors aligned into a "monster" El Niño was 1877, which led to a global famine that killed 30-60 million people.
As of April 14, 2026, the global average sea surface temperature reached 21.15degC, just shy of the all-time 2024 record. Because this "monster" El Niño is building on top of this already extreme baseline, climatologists warn that we are entering "uncharted territory" where the atmospheric responses may be more violent than in previous "super" events.
This is also expected to cause significant ice loss at both poles, a "Double Blue Ocean Event" (DBOE), by early 2027(!) and will probably push global average temperatures to historic, permanent highs.
Thank you for your attention to this matter!
kingtacticool@reddit
Whatever. Collapse is here. We tried warning everyone and got brushed off for being "extremist"
Now its here.
The Great Decent has officially begun.
I wish you all good fortune in the wars to come.
Automatic-Funny-8842@reddit
People used to laugh at me until last year when I used to go on a tangent and talk about what is to come. Especially whenever I mentioned El Nino and El Nina to anyone, they just made that face as if I was a lunatic spewing nonsense. This had been happening since last 10 years. I remember I was in school in 2012 and at that point I had made a presentation for my ecology class that was not mandatory but I was still taking it. I made some damning predictions and guess what? Prof failed me.
Now everyone is suddenly aware about El Nino and saying we should stop cutting trees, use solar energy more etc. oh honey..time to make changes was about 40 years ago at the very least.
kingtacticool@reddit
I went to an environmental magnet program in high school in the late 90s and have been saying the same thing since then. Also met with the ame looks.
ImportantCountry50@reddit (OP)
The Great Decent has officially begun! Awesome!
Does this mean we can look forward to a decent world full of decent people doing decent things for each other as they work decent hours, working decent jobs, for decent reward, building a decent future for all?!?
That sounds so good I think I just pee'd myself... Thanks!
kingtacticool@reddit
Damn autocorekt
Mostest_Importantest@reddit
I think some people will live your decent ideas while others have already descended into hell.
ImportantCountry50@reddit (OP)
Ah! Excellent point, but if you think about it, isn't that the way it has always been?
Mostest_Importantest@reddit
We are all collapse on this glorious day!
Same as every day.
Pollution in; pollution out.
goldmund22@reddit
Speak for yourself
Mostest_Importantest@reddit
I am all collapse on this glorious day!
Mau5keteer@reddit
Just realized I haven't seen a good Ken M reference in so long. Really brought me back. And if there's anything I need right now, it's to be brought back.. even if just for a moment. Thanks. :)
Mostest_Importantest@reddit
All we have is each other. Revolting and reassuring.
At least the pace picks up, from here on out.
Plenty to be excited about, these days.
Stay frosty. Godspeed.
whereismysideoffun@reddit
Unless one is actively preparing for adaptation and mitigation, what is the point of warning people?
Spunge14@reddit
The plan is for the poor and middle class to die. Hope this helps clarify.
Hoodbarmaid@reddit
Yes it is. What's funny is who will be the one to do all the work still needing done?
Whitstout@reddit
Robots and AI…hence the big push for AI
siboq@reddit
This is why wealthy investors don’t care that it’s a bubble. They know. They just need the tech to really takeoff before the circular funding game of musical investment vehicles collapses the world economy, obliterating the financial system and causing rampant inflation and scarcity.
siboq@reddit
It’s a game of hot potato but the hot potato is leveraged debt.
phaedrus910@reddit
Less people means less work needed.
-Germanicus-@reddit
I don't think these people are smart enough to pull that off. Don't get me wrong, they will try, but their egos will write checks their nepotism and affluency degenerated skills won't be able to cash. They're just so incompetent that they will probably fail.
Prestigious_Wrap_932@reddit
If our society weren’t built and operated for the benefit of rapacious capitalists reversing course and weathering the collapse would be possible, but alas the economic vampires will keep draining the working class of its lifeblood until they finally kill us all.
Ok_Mortgage_6701@reddit
This this this
No_Branch_5083@reddit
Which is why it is important for us all to build local community resilience and opt out of the capitalist consumer mindset as much as possible.
03263@reddit
Wish it were possible to live without money, if there was some tax exemption for self sufficient intentional communities that opt out of the greater economy. But there's not.
No_Branch_5083@reddit
Yeah, it sucks. I just try to spend as little as possible, and either buy used or create my own wherever possible.
epadafunk@reddit
I'd much rather have a Great Decent than a Great Descent.
trickortreat89@reddit
It’s definitely getting clear that this year officially, we have peaked as a global civilization. It is gonna go all downwards from here. Last year would have been our last “good year”. Every year from now on will be a harder and harder challenge. Doesn’t mean everything will just collapse THIS year though. But the things you see everyday, the things you can go down and buy in your local supermarket to an almost affordable price? Say your slow and painfull goodbyes, one by one.
It will almost certainly never be the same again.
MaddogBC@reddit
I have a hard time calling last year a "good year" by any metric. Me an my bias would place that sometime in the 90's
Shadowpriest@reddit
The 90's were GREAT years. My underdeveloped brain at the time didn't realize just how amazing it was to have such a abundance.
RichieLT@reddit
And now it begins.
tennezzee88@reddit
*descent
Raclettegring@reddit
People don't give a shit until their lives are personally affected. The only time they will wake up is when the supermarkets are facing shortages.
billcube@reddit
Current inflation is affecting everyone already, no? I already see shortages in the supermarkets because of said inflation.
Empty-Equipment9273@reddit
Double blue ocean event
Ye it’s over
ContessaChaos@reddit
I didn't even know that was a thing. Fuck. FUCK.
kitkats124@reddit
The OP is very misleading. There is a stark difference between a BOE occurring in the Arctic and the declining sea ice surrounding Antarctica; it’s not a “double” the effect, nor would they necessarily occur at the same time as a “double” event because Arctic minimum is during the summer of the Northern Hemisphere when it’s not summer season for the southern Hemisphere.
The probability of a BOE occurring is still extremely low for this year, although we are on the trajectory for them to begin occurring.
Once a BOE does occur in the Arctic, it will only last for about a week until the Arctic sea ice returns. Then it could happen again and repeat more BOE’s that last for longer periods. The Arctic sea ice minimum is also at the period when it shifts from perpetual daylight to perpetual midnight, so it will be some years of multiple BOE’s occurring before they can exist during periods of nonstop daylight heating the dark ocean waters that were previously reflecting sunlight from the sea ice.
Lailokos@reddit
Worry about the northern pacific especially. Already record hot with a heatwave off CA. We will get weather never seen before.
Ok_Main3273@reddit
I worry about India and Pakistan (where the hottest month of the year is normally June; screenshot below taken end of April!)
source: https://zoom.earth/places/pakistan/qambar/#map=temperature/model=icon
kea1981@reddit
I live in the Sierra and work at a ski resort, one known for it's snowmaking. But it still has to be cold for the snow guns to work.
I think soon, far sooner than we realize, we'll have a dry Sierra winter. No snowpack (or at least, so insignificant as to be meaningless). No Sierra snowpack means no Central Valley crops, no running water in LA, no water to fight fires, increased spread of wildfire...
This is scary. Genuinely.
Captain_Pink_Pants@reddit
You mean, the "colorado" winter... 🤯😬
kea1981@reddit
The Sierra snowpack directly serves about 27 million folks, mostly in California and focused on the Central Valley. The Colorado River feeds 7 states and directly serves around 40 million people. Drought in either watershed is bad, but then consider the indirect consumption: the California Central Valley is one of the most productive agricultural areas on earth. The southwest is far from barren, but where the Colorado flows doesn't make nearly as much food, it's water tends to feed fodder crops like alfalfa and hay. If drought hits either one, a bunch of people are fucked. But if drought hits the Sierra: we're all fucked. The bounty of the Central Valley makes up about 25% of all US food production. If the fruits and nuts (making up 40% of all US consumption) don't get water, if the rice doesn't get flooded, if the bees brought from around the country to pollinate the almonds find there aren't any blooms because it's been too dry (or too hot or too cold)...can you imagine how much more expensive everything in the grocery store would be? How much less variety?
Seriously: scary af.
Da_Question@reddit
Tbf, Colorado River also goes into Mexico.
Also considering the areas it runs through are also desert and very prone to drought... The big problem with building massive population centers in areas that shouldn't even have people.
midgethemage@reddit
The PNW got basically no snowpack this year. Of the West Coast mountain ranges, the Sierras were the only saw a decent amount of snowpack, even if that was well below average. I drove by Mt Shasta in January and from I-5, you could tell it only had a light dusting of snow. Shit's gonna be rough on the West Coast this summer
koaScript@reddit
The 2026 ski season at Mt Hood was only 22 days. I don't ski, but yikes.
Twisted_Cabbage@reddit
Yeah, Rainier and Mt Baker are not doing well either. The north cascades are looking pretty bare.
HandRubbedWood@reddit
That basically happened this year here in Colorado, we had basically no snow outside of what was man made. I have never seen such a bad winter here and I’ve been here for 50 years
Captain_Pink_Pants@reddit
Do you remember anything worth sharing re: 80/81?
aPenologist@reddit
If OP, or anyone else lives thousands of miles away, can they worry especially about their own most local major climate system? or is there some northern pacific factor that is more of a global driver of climate? (Genuine question, and a bit tongue in cheek.)
diedlikeCambyses@reddit
My favourite part of this is 2017,18,19 which were enso neutral we're hotter than 98.
Captain_Pink_Pants@reddit
It has gotten so much warmer here so quickly. I think it was 2012 when we got to -30... Spent like a month below zero... A couple of years ago it barely got to -10. Last year, it was only below zero a few days and occasionally at night. This year, I don't think we got into single positive digits more than a handfull of days. 😳
diedlikeCambyses@reddit
You should see my grandmothers diaries from the 50's. It's terrifying.
extinction6@reddit
I'd love to see some posts of your grandmothers records. I'm going to put some footage together of the die off on the reefs in 1998. I remember when 1990 was announced as the warmest year in history and then in 1995 the records were broken again. The 1998 super El-Nino affected reefs around the world and that was one of the first major signs of global trouble.
I think about the idea that I have been talking to people about this for 28 years thinking it's such a long time. The coral reefs went from being one of the Earth's first globally noticed degraded forms of life to being the first to pass the point of no return, in just 28 years!!
We know that climate change is accelerating and the combination of all the feed backs that are kicking in and growing are going to change things much more rapidly than the change I witnessed over the last 28 years.
Everyday I think about all the people still having children and the so called leader of the free world standing on the world stage at the UN and saying climate change is a hoax and there is so little push back? We have international communication systems and climate science institutes all over the world and still people are having children and there is so little talk of how badly they will suffer, needlessly.
Planet of the Apes
Independent_Dot_103@reddit
I don’t wanna get too specific but I live in the pnw, we’re supposed to have temps in the 80s this weekend and while that’s not insane for some places, I’ve lived here my whole life and this time of year it’s considered “hot” to even be in the 70s
Valeriejoyow@reddit
My MIL lives in Bellevue and we had to insist she get central air a couple of years ago. I assume in the past there wasn't a lot of need for AC there. There was so many sunny days where you could see the mountains. I've been going there for over 30 years and never saw a winter like this.
siboq@reddit
Just checked the forecast and saw 79. I’m basically north lake Washington area. Insane.
ImportantCountry50@reddit (OP)
Some related links that may be of interest:
History’s Greatest El Niño May Have Caused Severe 19th Century Famine
Moderate-to-Strong +IOD Forecast to Emerge With El Nino Mid-to-late 2026
Global Seasonal Climate Update for May-June-July 2026
A huge rise in temperature in 2026?
Enjoy!
Previous_Avocado6778@reddit
Thanks I read all of the links. Interesting and appreciated.
gtinmia@reddit
Dam you read all of that in 19 minutes? You must be a savant!
Automatic-Funny-8842@reddit
He skims through. Which is a skill in itself.
Previous_Avocado6778@reddit
Lol I’ve seen two of them already and I’m pretty invested in the topic.
francis93112@reddit
Negative -IOD was very bad in 2025, exceptionally rare and catastrophic cyclone Senyar killed 2000 in South East Asia, 1 week before that, an extreme rain event rumoured to kill 2000 - 8000 in Vietnam, there was no official report because of government censorship.
TheUsualRatio@reddit
SO tired of AI-generated posts like these…and here, of all places. Jesus wept.
mossyskeleton@reddit
I am SO tired of people making this exact comment.
I'm just saying.... you might have more fun at the library or something. You may as well get off the Internet. It isn't going anywhere.
Also it's not even clear if this post is AI or just well-written. If you look at OP's comment history you can see that they are in fact a good writer.
I'm just tired of the obligatory "THIS IS AI" comment in every thread on reddit.
Kind-Masterpiece-310@reddit
Agreed. If the information is accurate, I have zero problem with it. Save the AI slop comments for fake videos, music, etc.
hephaestos_le_bancal@reddit
I do. I come for human interaction, if I want facts I read the newspaper (which I also mind if it's AI generated, but for different reasons).
Kind-Masterpiece-310@reddit
That’s all well and good, but I’d rather see a ChatGPT summary than someone’s half-assed attempt at regurgitating something they read from the very same sources. Not every post needs to be graded like it’s a book report.
Just give me accurate info with a clean layout, and I’m good. I don’t need it to be written in cursive on parchment to be acceptable.
HowieFeltersnitz@reddit
"I have correctly identified this as AI. I am very smart"
CastAside1812@reddit
This is 100% AI there's so many tells.
03263@reddit
Get used to i guess. Just come for the comments.
idreamofkitty@reddit
"When the El Niño fully transfers its stored ocean heat into the atmosphere in 2027, the numbers become catastrophic. Climate researcher Zeke Hausfather utilizes statistical models projecting a central estimate of 1.57°C for 2027. James Hansen's models forecast an even more severe spike, projecting global temperatures will peak near an astonishing 1.7°C."
https://www.collapse2050.com/2026-super-el-nino-threatens-global-crops/
HolyMoleyGuacamoly@reddit
i thought hansen saw temps going wayyyy above that
TheCosmosItself1@reddit
In 2027.
HolyMoleyGuacamoly@reddit
ahhh - well that’s insane
ImportantCountry50@reddit (OP)
I got a chuckle from one of Hansen's recent papers, he gently suggested (with all good humor) that Hausfather's error bar was so large as to render his 'projection' utterly meaningless.
You may have also seen this from one of my previous posts:
Super El Nino Escalator to Hell
1.8°C! Oh, my!
Twisted_Cabbage@reddit
Oh yeah, we are proper fucked. Gonna be a wild ride!
Equivalent-Zone-4115@reddit
The irony of using AI to write a reddit post about climate
freesoloc2c@reddit
Venus by Monday.
StarlightLifter@reddit
Wasn’t it supposed to be by Tuesday?
Shadowpriest@reddit
Nah that's Taco Tuesday with half off margaritas!
freesoloc2c@reddit
More precipitous than anticipated.
GordonVaca@reddit
Faster than expected?
SupportLocalShart@reddit
Amarillo by morning
sixxtynoine@reddit
So do I need to go into work tomorrow or?
Long-Euphoric-Life@reddit
I suppose the day the answer is truly a no (coming soon it seems) the joke will be really funny.
kea1981@reddit
I work at a ski resort.
Soon I think. Very soon.
Shppo@reddit
I work
soon i think. very soon.
StarlightLifter@reddit
I maintain almost above all else a healthy sense of humor.
When and if that day comes, I will have at least a small, reasonable chuckle over it.
Hoodbarmaid@reddit
I'm with you. Find the humor.
VersaceSamurai@reddit
It’s kinda like when my dad first learned of his dad’s passing and through the sadness he uttered “well I guess I don’t have to take him to the doctor tomorrow”
Bluest_waters@reddit
Nah You are good. Also rent is cancelled, no need to pay that
Fosterpig@reddit
Also the gov is using our tax money to bomb lots of ppl . . So go ahead and start just holding on to that tax money.
billcube@reddit
But they need that ballroom. With 4 inches thick glass so they don't hear you.
systemofaderp@reddit
I've said it before, I'll say it again:
People will only stop going to work sehen the world ends and the world won't end until people stop going to work.
TrickyProfit1369@reddit
We will work until we die
jadelink88@reddit
You can join the apocalypse any time you like by quitting. Some of us are adapting to this.
lost_horizons@reddit
I work in HVAC. Hello overtime!
RamblinRoyce@reddit
So combine this with a potential BOE / AMOC shutdown and we've got a party!
Tearakan@reddit
Add on the severe shortages for fertilizer for this year due to the US Iran war.
Yeah we might end up seeing the worst great depression plus famine ever late this year.....
HassanAchievedIt@reddit
The Gift that keeps on Giving.
Shppo@reddit
USA USA USA 🇺🇸
TimberBiscuits@reddit
One thing worth considering that you skipped over is the comparison between the famine of 1877 and 1997. Food insecurity was much more notable in 1877 which saw a large scale famine. But no notable famine occurred in 1997 and believe it or not, food distribution and humanitarian aid has gotten better since 1997.
That doesn’t downplay the totality of what humanity faces but this will not be the same as 1877.
linuslesser@reddit
So how does the conflict in Iran affect the food distribution when we lose fertilizer at a critical time like this? Isn't it now in spring the fertilizer is most needed? I'm not a farmer so i don't know
KiaRioGrl@reddit
There will be less food to distribute, since less or mo fertilizer will mean lower yields.
And you should learn to grow some food.
KiaRioGrl@reddit
That was true until the Trump regime gutted all of their food distribution and humanitarian aid last year and other countries have been scrambling to cover the gap if and when possible. It's a mess out there.
No_Branch_5083@reddit
Does that not put undue faith in our rather precarious global supply chains? Not the mention the fact that our current population is only possible due to intensely unsustainable farming practices. There is a famine in Sudan as we speak.
trickortreat89@reddit
It was probably still REALLY bad in 1997 for those countries “outside the grid” though?
I know that the wealthy countries can probably still just rely on the food they have “in the bank” even from poorer countries, but we’re also running out of food “in the bank” because of last years drought etc.
Also there’s still inflation and increased prices on food. It’s already been announced here in Denmark that it will be a thing. Even here we also have poorer layers of the society and families that are gonna struggle. They will be pushed into more poverty now. And that’s in a “wealthy Scandinavian country”. I can only imagine how it’s gonna be other places… it’s so horrible to be witnessing all of this knowing I’m one of the privileged people who can do nothing about it
switchsk8r@reddit
We certainly have more social nets than before, but i do think sooner or later the climate destruction will outweigh that. Probably not as soon as we think though... but factoring in fertilizer loss hmmm
Prestigious_Wrap_932@reddit
Not related to this discussion really, but I wish we could use more scientific terms than “El Nino” and “La Nina” which are pointlessly nonspecific and don’t tell anyone anything about the weather patterns they describe, thus requiring participants in the discussion to seek additional knowledge to understand the conversation.
lost_horizons@reddit
Well but they have different effects depending on what part of the world you live in. You’re not wrong but it would be hard to give it a descriptive name
SovietJugernaut@reddit
Yeah, even for the US West Coast only the impacts hit differently -- el niño brings wetter winters to California with flooding and erosion, while for the PNW it's drier, associated with lower snow pack, and worse wildfires the next summer
Sk8rToon@reddit
I remember the school bus driver having to put some of the kindergarten & 1st graders on her hip as she waded them across the street in ‘97. We went down some n shaped roads that really flooded on the curbs that would have been 3/4 those kids’ height. Bus driver also had me (a high schooler with one of the longest rides) sit in the driver’s seat as she crossed the kids because the bus wouldn’t start up again if she turned it off when she exited like she was supposed to since the engine was getting water logged. So it was my job to make sure none of the little ones (or honestly any of the older one too) started pushing buttons & pedals or starting a joy ride while she was out. My school also had an area (that was used for eating lunch) that was so constantly flooded that we nicknamed it [Mascot] Lake.
Of course El Niño was also why I passed my driver’s test the first try. I technically crossed the center line & should have instantly failed but the road was so wet the proctor didn’t see.
Prestigious_Wrap_932@reddit
They’re archaic religious-based terms that have no relevance to the actual weather patterns they describe. It’s absurd that we continue to use them today.
r3dtick@reddit
Will use anything but the metric system...
EugeneStargazer@reddit
"...thus requiring participants in the discussion to seek additional knowledge..."
It's okay to learn?
what-no-earth@reddit
Do you guys realistically think this is the end of normalcy?
It sure sounds like its it.
03263@reddit
The goalposts for what is even normal keep running away faster and faster
mumwifealcoholic@reddit
No. Not enough white westerners will die. Changes don't happen when people in the southern hemisphere die in their droves.
kl2342@reddit
Yes, except the new chaos will absolutely become the new normal no matter how abnormal it is. People who live in places with insane weather simply adapt. Well, now we're all going to be living in places with insane weather, so we'll all simply adapt to whatever flavor of insanity our region produces.
SaturnMoth@reddit
And yet you still use AI to write this.
Fnordus235@reddit
It's not just pee, it's poo!
Skrappz@reddit
It really is ironic watching these numbskulls think they’re contributing by using AI to think for them.
Tight-Air-6767@reddit
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stop_talking_you@reddit
the human hubris in trying to prevent earth climate is the most insane part.
Hoodbarmaid@reddit
Do you know how many time people have said this stuff and yes here we all are. Live your life and enjoy being with loved ones.
Sensitive_Oven_4401@reddit
Why 2026 is Scarier ? i had an answer from google Mọi người cảm thấy năm 2026 "đáng sợ" hơn do sự kết hợp của cảm giác kiệt sức kéo dài, những bất ổn lớn về chính trị và xã hội, cùng với sự bùng nổ của các nội dung kinh dị trong văn hóa đại chúng. Dưới đây là những lý do chính khiến năm 2026 mang lại cảm giác nặng nề:
Khác với sự bùng phát dữ dội của đại dịch năm 2020, năm 2026 được mô tả là "năm của sự kiệt sức".
Áp lực kỹ thuật số: Công nghệ vốn để hỗ trợ nay lại khiến cuộc sống nặng nề hơn khi công việc theo chân về tận nhà và dòng thông tin tiêu cực tràn ngập, khiến không gian tinh thần bị thu hẹp. Medium
Bất ổn địa chính trị và rủi ro toàn cầu
Các chuyên gia và báo chí quốc tế coi 2026 là điểm bùng phát của nhiều rủi ro hệ thống:
Vấn đề sinh tồn: Sự gia tăng rủi ro về biến đổi khí hậu thảm khốc, sự sụp đổ đa dạng sinh học và việc sử dụng "vũ khí nước" tại các khu vực khan hiếm tài nguyên đang trở thành mối đe dọa thực sự. Global Challenges Foundation +2
Nỗi sợ về sự trì trệ và lặp lại
Một khía cạnh tâm lý khiến 2026 trở nên đáng sợ là nỗi sợ rằng tương lai chỉ là bản sao của quá khứ.
Nhiều người cảm thấy lo lắng khi nhận ra thời gian trôi qua mà không có sự thay đổi thực sự trong bản thân, dẫn đến nỗi sợ tỉnh dậy và thấy mình đang lặp lại những thói quen cũ trong một thế giới ngày càng khó khăn hơn.
"Năm của kinh dị" trong văn hóa đại chúng
Năm 2026 cũng thực sự "đáng sợ" theo nghĩa đen đối với những người hâm mộ giải trí:
Bạn có đang cảm thấy áp lực từ công việc hay lo lắng về tình hình thế giới hiện nay không?
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ImportantCountry50@reddit (OP)
AI slop? Really? Please do not. Just... Don't
Sowhatlmao33@reddit
ive recently started reading The Late Victorian Holocausts about the el Nino related famines (great book for anyone interested, it's heavy to read about though) that very convincingly explains that even back then the starvation was caused by gouged grain prices, not physical lack of food and capacity to transport it. meaningful relief efforts of any sort were actively and aggressively curbed. Florence Nightingale herself advocated for aid after learning about the conditions (alongside many other notable people), but those in power decided the 60 million blood sacrifice is reasonable to keep the economy together
IgniteThatShit@reddit
we really did have everything, didn't we?
RottenFarthole@reddit
And more
IndieStoner@reddit
Bozhark@reddit
Next year
ianishomer@reddit
I wonder if this could be the "oh shit, they were right" moment for the climate deniers that are left out there. I am convinced that all deniers will have an " oh shit" moment at some point, maybe this will be the big one.
MonoNoAware71@reddit
Nope. They'll say rhe weather's always been unpredictable. And look: it happened in 1877 too and that wasn't climate change either. They'll say it will pass. And the problem is that it probably will. These extreme events are only temporary. The continuous changes in the background are more gradual and less visible (as long as you choose 'not to look up').
ianishomer@reddit
Yeah you are probably right, maybe I am giving them too much common sense/intelligence (delete as applicable)
danc43@reddit
And I still have to go to work in the morning. I still have plastic in every organ in my body, from my brain to my testicles. I still cannot afford to responsibly have a child any time soon. I cannot afford to buy a home in any amount of time.
And I live in a “first world” country.
I’m tired of this Grandpa.
zue4@reddit
Such a shame the ill effects of these least affect those Western nations that caused them.
trickortreat89@reddit
This is so freaking horrifying. The signs are there, it’s definitely undeniable.
I just hope we will try to cooperate across the globe, instead of panicking.
We can go through this, remember we throw out SO much food every day.
Maybe this year we seriously have to stop wasting so much food so we don’t start a massive hunger strike across the entire globe.
2leftarms@reddit
The hottest year of a El Niño is typically the second year so this year will be tragically bad and next year catastrophic…..
suzyqsmilestill@reddit
We hit 430 PPM’s and were like yeah we can do better….meh add in a super El Niño…it’s bout to get wild. depending on area for what is needed I would brush up on storm preparation. Stay safe out there.
DecrimIowa@reddit
highly recommend people interested in this topic read "Late Victorian Holocausts" by Mike Davis
Murranji@reddit
See also the Australian millennium drought driven by long lasting extreme El Niño in the 2000s.
https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/wrcr.20123
“The “Millennium Drought” (2001–2009) can be described as the worst drought on record for southeast Australia. Adaptation to future severe droughts requires insight into the drivers of the drought and its impacts. These were analyzed using climate, water, economic, and remote sensing data combined with biophysical modeling. Prevailing El Niño conditions explained about two thirds of rainfall deficit in east Australia.”
Resident_Expert8187@reddit
Watch how everythings gonna be fine
switchsk8r@reddit
Late Victorian Holocausts: El Niño Famines and the Making of the Third World