For Balkan users who are neither Turk nor Greek: what do you think about the discussions being so focused on Turkey and Greece? And why do other countries seem more in the background?
Posted by TurkOmbre@reddit | AskBalkans | View on Reddit | 151 comments
Also, how can we explain that Turks and Greeks tend to be more present or active in the discussions?
CataphractBunny@reddit
I have recently discovered that there's three magic words with which one can summon Turks to come and share their enlightened wisdom with you.
Those words?
tabulasomnia@reddit
fuck the ottomans.
ruineditforgood@reddit
Kankam çok garip bir güruhsunuz he. Akpliler neyse siz de aynısınız. Türkiye’nin Osmanlı’nın ardılı olduğunu, Osmanlı’daki ıslahatlar olmasaydı Türkiye Cumhuriyeti’nin asla kurulmayacağını kabullenseniz mesela bir sürü nokta kafanızda yerli yerine oturur. Olum uzaylılar mı kurdu Türkiye’yi? Atatürk ve yakın çevresinin büyüdüğü ortam Rumeli, İstanbul, Trakya ve Marmara çevresi. Osmanlı’ya laf edeni de Cumhuriyet’e laf edeni de sabaha kadar alır altıma inletirim.
tabulasomnia@reddit
gel inlet
ruineditforgood@reddit
Sildim onu mesaj şikayet edilmesin diye
tabulasomnia@reddit
that tracks
ruineditforgood@reddit
Ne yapayım? inletmenin öncesindeki fikrin yazılı kalmasını istedim. Sen tek değilsin çünkü Türkiye’yi kozadan çıktı sananlar çok piyasada.
tabulasomnia@reddit
korkaklıktan silmiş olsan da hakaret ederek başlattığın bu iletişimin devamında seninle tatlı tatlı fikir paylaşımında bulunacağımı sanıyorsan yanılıyorsun
sen editlesen de modlar/adminler ilk halini görür bu arada. şikayet edildiysen geçmiş olsun.
ruineditforgood@reddit
Korkaklıktan silmemiştim uyarıyı yediğime göre yazayım, zevkten inletirim Türkiye Cumhuriyeti’ne de Osmanlı’ya da laf edeni. Altımda çatır çatır inletirim hem de.
tabulasomnia@reddit
👍
ruineditforgood@reddit
Bunu da şikayet etme ama :))
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RangerSome9549@reddit
No.
Say fuck Ataturk or Turks are Arabs and they will get mad as fuck.
79mn105ss105a104@reddit
I cast my ultimate >!Armenian genocide!<
CataphractBunny@reddit
Nah, that's just ragebait. I'll stick to the facts.
tabulasomnia@reddit
respect
BurgurluGenc031@reddit
İ HAVE BEEN SUMMONED....depends on which era of ottoman. For more quality ragebaits u can use 'Ataturks is greek btw 🤓' which is a triggerin for not just nationalist but everyone loves the ataturk including ME, U PİECE OF SH#################### ehm nvm.
TurkOmbre@reddit (OP)
We don't care about the Ottomans
CataphractBunny@reddit
Objective reality disagrees. 😄
No-Championship-4632@reddit
You were the first to come 😄
TurkOmbre@reddit (OP)
haha, not wrong you got me
Ujemegaz@reddit
Now you will have to drop your pants.
TurkOmbre@reddit (OP)
I'll only agree if it's without a condom, for the sensation 😇
Ujemegaz@reddit
sonte2@reddit
I’m surprised there’s so many of them considering that every week there’s someone from Greece who says that Greece is not Balkan.
ruineditforgood@reddit
As a Turk I consider Türkiye off balkan but Greece is definetely on the board.
casual_philosopher02@reddit
we all know who that certain someone is.....
EbbPlane1749@reddit
depends on the ethnicity of the person beefing with me lol if they are turkish i love greeks and we genetically the closest ❤️ constantinople ❤️... if greek ISTANBUL ATATURK ENJOY SWIMMING GAYGREEK LOLLL
TurkOmbre@reddit (OP)
That's why I don't trust some Albanians like you, and I would like a Serbia-Turkey alliance regarding the economy. Albania brings us nothing; in the end, religion doesn't feed us 🙂
EbbPlane1749@reddit
what an odd response to an obvious joke, nobody in the balkans is interested in working with you
TurkOmbre@reddit (OP)
‘No body in the Balkans is interested in working with you’
It is also a joke I imagine ? 😄
EbbPlane1749@reddit
no 😃
TurkOmbre@reddit (OP)
So yes, the mouths are untangling 🤷🏻♂️
EbbPlane1749@reddit
whatever that means
EbbPlane1749@reddit
😄
Efficient_Resource15@reddit
I see many people here especially from greece which is interesting to me, since I have seen many of them denying to even be balkan, I won't lie I am at fault too, since besides parts like macedonia and epirus who indeed have that south balkan vibe I think of greece as very much a south european culture like that of italy(especially southern italy, same people)
Crazy-Writing-7700@reddit
But can’t a country be Balkan and Southern European/Meditteranean at the same time? I see Spain and Italy as Western and Southern European at the same time as well.
Original-Hall-9832@reddit
I think that they're the same people. With different religions, but extremely similar physical and cultural traits. There's no chance modern Greeks have a direct or uninterrupted lineage to a bunge of Ancient Hellenic tribes. Which historical records state to have had much different complexion than the current so called Greeks. Add that to the incredibly fluent mixing of population in the Balkans for the last 2000 years - and you have modern Greeks much closer to Turks than Ancient and extinct Hellenes. This opinion comes from Macedonia. It's observable and logical.
TurkOmbre@reddit (OP)
Yes, indeed, many modern Greeks invent ancient origins for themselves. But I think they themselves know the truth; they do it to prove that their ancestors have a prestigious history. But what good is it if today you are in a disastrous situation and subject to other countries?
Original-Hall-9832@reddit
It's not about that. It's for one basic principle- to continue existing as a country (in whatever form). And for that, one needs a doctrine to base that existence upon (even if that doctrine is false).
Then over the past century they've gripped on a lot of territory which they've barely managed to hold on to (because it was settled overwhelmingly by Slavic speakers). So having a strong national doctrine (albeit untrue, which deep inside they know it) - is extremely important in order to stay in one piece. It's the way they've managed to form and expand as a country since 1821, and hope to keep what has fortune bestowed upon them.
Grgrs10@reddit
Bulgarian denier projecting ✴️
Natural_Scholar_1502@reddit
So basically what most Balkan countries do
SOHONEYSAME@reddit
North Macedonia, chief.
in fact, all of us, including Giannis, r direct descendants.
North Macedonia is Slavic.
mind the diffwrence.😍😍
cutyouiwill@reddit
I want portokalopita. Pls send portocalopita to Romania. Thank you. We have many shawarma and kebabs, don't need any more of those.
refinedeuropa@reddit
we do not have shawarma
TurkOmbre@reddit (OP)
Shawarma = çevirme
refinedeuropa@reddit
şavarma döner ile bağlantılı kelime olarak bizden oraya gidiyor kelime şavarma diye bir kelime yok yani bizde öyle bir yemek yok Bizim ywmeğimizin adı döner.Yunanın gyrosu na döner demek ya da shawarma demek gibi abes olur benzerler ama farklılar sosları,kesimi vs si
TurkOmbre@reddit (OP)
Çevirme gibi bir yemeğimiz var ama : kuzu çevirme mesela.
refinedeuropa@reddit
bambaşka şeyler ya güzel kardeşim filoloji olarak hakeza gastronomi olarak
lovinGamin@reddit
Hatay döneri
cutyouiwill@reddit
Yea, but it's your baby just with another father.
Kitsooos@reddit
Portokalopita and galatopita are so goated.
bongiovist@reddit
Honestly as a Turk i feel exhausted and it is not hard to guess other Balkans feelings about that. Enough is enough( yes again another Turk entry but at least a honest one being on your side)
Iterative_Ackermann@reddit
This sub is getting under my skin. I am 50 yo and for all my life I have maintained the worst thing on political spectrum is nationalism. I don't even befriend nationalist people, let alone vote or support them.
But there is such an extreme amount of racism against Turks, anachronistic and distorted history takes and a very very shortsighted view of geopolitics and international law here that, Nihat Atsız would be proud of my posting! The double standards and complete lack of self reflection is second to none here. Only r/cyprus comes close.
Turkish speaking subs are similarly clueless and jingoistic but I can, and I have, just mute them. I know how to handle ultra nationalist Turkish kids and the best way is just wait them to grow out of it. Here I just can't. Somebody please ban me!
GoHardLive@reddit
tbh i am surprized that greeks are so active on this sub. I thought greek reddit community was really small
gavats@reddit
greeks have too much free time
DARKAEL616@reddit
Tbf most of them if not all are disapora Greeks. It follows the pattern of immigrants having stronger nationalist views than locals.
TrainingHeavy1666@reddit
Not all.
Substantial-Peach-90@reddit
lol, the Greek diaspora in Europe is not nationalistic at all. Could be even the opossums. Maybe nationalistic you could call the ones in USA and Australia
BeeUnfair4086@reddit
As a diaspora greek, it's exactly the opposite in regard to nationalist views. It's not only me, but most of us.
TheNihilistGeek@reddit
Turks are probably more than all else populations combined (84m) Greeks are the third more numerous population (10m) (Romania is second with 19m) and also have a high literacy in English so it makes sense you see so many posts by them. Serbia and Bulgaria are also populous (6.5M each) but have a slightly less literacy in English so they may be less represented.
TurkOmbre@reddit (OP)
They are not numerous, but Greeks and Turks contribute a lot to this subreddit. For example, Serbs are more numerous, but don't produce enough content about their country.
Substratas@reddit
Is that why my posts & comments get so many views from Serbia (always in the top 3)?
TurkOmbre@reddit (OP)
Yes
Substratas@reddit
It’s because they’re here to remind us daily they’re Mediterranean, not Balkan.
https://i.redd.it/kv2y9cl8esxg1.gif
AntiKouk@reddit
We come here to reconnect with our roots before going back to the EU subreddit 😌
Substratas@reddit
What kind of differently abled shade is that?
https://i.redd.it/ogi20sz9atxg1.gif
AntiKouk@reddit
Wait I'm realising the tone came across like I meant it..
We scam EU funds as good as any other fellow Balkaners, what more proof
Substratas@reddit
We haven’t had the chance to show our talent yet!! Just wait and see… 😈
bulbulator050@reddit
As Polish i like to read this small postYug conflicts. Btw if u count Turkey as Balkan so Poland can be too ( becouse it's the same rule - stay near Balkan).
TurkOmbre@reddit (OP)
Two countries separate Poland from the Balkan countries. Turkey has a region entirely within the Balkan Peninsula with historical primacy. Poland has nothing to do with the Balkans.
bulbulator050@reddit
1 country if u count Austria or Hungary, which sometimes this sub did. Btw Commonweath had history with Hungary and Osmans ( sometimes war, sometimes allies). Sure we didn't sit there like Osman ocupation, only licking around but still did some impact.
TurkOmbre@reddit (OP)
The Turks have been present in the Balkans since the Middle Ages, just like the South Slavs. The Turks are a fundamental element of the Balkans; the very name 'Balkans' comes from Turkish, according to several sources. In short, Poland absolutely nothing to do with the Balkans, and Turkey absolutely yes.
Substratas@reddit
It’s because they have to remind us, Balkaners, daily they’re Mediterranean, not Balkan.
https://i.redd.it/s3pvhz0mdsxg1.gif
CockamouseGoesWee@reddit
The fact that a Greek comment is the top comment of this post written by a Turk is hilariously ironic.
Early-Show2886@reddit
Well, I'm of Turkish descent on my father's side, but from a completely different background; I'm not familiar with this Turkish-Greek problem. It annoys me in a Balkan context; it's getting out of hand.
TurkOmbre@reddit (OP)
It's more a question of conflicting interests between states (which is even more problematic than a childish squabble between two peoples). Greece has caused Turkey many problems since its creation in 1821, two centuries of continuous problems (including occupations and massacres).
8NkB8@reddit
Greeks could more than say the same about the Ottoman Turks and the Turkish Republic.
No offense, but if Turks/Turkey thinks Greeks/Greece did them worse than the other way around, I don't know what to tell you.
TurkOmbre@reddit (OP)
The Middle Ages have nothing to do with it. During the Middle Ages, everyone settled in Byzantine territories: Arabs, Slavs, Turks, Albanians, Armenians, and Latins. In contrast, from 1821 until 1950, Greece continued to expand its territory, even acquiring two provinces with a Turkish-Muslim majority: Western Thrace and Macedonia. Meanwhile, the Turkish Republic was not founded on territory with a Greek majority.
And I would also add that Greece wanted to illegally annex Cyprus to the country in 1974, and blames Turkey for preventing this expansion.
TrainingHeavy1666@reddit
Macedonia? What time u talking about bro. Thrace also has NO Turkish Muslim majority. A FEW Muslim villages. But Macedonia??? Why u lie? Or you were just a bad student 🤷. And if so,why you made Agia Sophia a mosque and not let it be a museum? A historical monument? Why a mosque especially agia Sophia?
TurkOmbre@reddit (OP)
TrainingHeavy1666@reddit
Is this MAJORITY of TURKISH muslim in Macedonia and Thrace? What r u talking about?????? PLEASE someone check his comment.
TurkOmbre@reddit (OP)
Learn to read a map instead of getting angry like a child who has lost his toy, be more sophisticated
TrainingHeavy1666@reddit
Please someone 🙏
bruhmanbruuh@reddit
>And I would also add that Greece wanted to illegally annex Cyprus to the country in 1974, and blames Turkey for preventing this expansion.
Yes , like Hatay .
Oh , by the way, history didn't start in 1974. Just like , you know , it also didnt start on 7/10/2023.
>the Turkish Republic was not founded on territory with a Greek majority.
Like Western Thrace and Macedonia , there were also many regions in the Ottoman empire with a non-turk majority, but of course you didnt mention that either.
TurkOmbre@reddit (OP)
You lie a lot and you're comparing apples and oranges. Hatay was annexed after a legal referendum, and France approved it (in fact, it was France that deprived Turkey of Hatay from the start).
None of the 81 provinces of the modern Turkish Republic had a Christian majority in 1912. If you're talking about the Kurds, then yes, but in Turkey there were no 'Greek Christian provinces'.
bruhmanbruuh@reddit
The republic was founded in 1923. Most of Greeks were already out of it, either dead in Amele Tabularli or fleeing genocide at the hands of both Ottoman and Young Turk officials. And as like in 1923 , Greece had no Turks in Macedonia as most of them were exchanged- by the Lausanne Treaty the only muslims remaining were in Thrace. Of these muslims , around 50% were Turks , the rest were Pomaks and Gypsies.
So you are speaking double barrel bullshit , as neither Greece had ''majority Turk provinces'' in 1923 and onwards.
>Hatay was annexed after a legal referendum
''Legal'' is a pretty obscure way to call it. The province at the time had at most 38% Turks, while almost half of the province was Arab.
I'm not comparing apples to oranges. All I'm saying is , when Turks do it it is good , when others do it it is bad.
So leave the bullshitting at the side and have the fucking balls to admit it.
TurkOmbre@reddit (OP)
You really don't understand ANYTHING.
In 1912 (before the population exchanges), no province in Anatolia had a Greek/Christian majority.
And Western Thrace and Macedonia were acquired by Greece in 1912 (Turkish/Muslim majority), 11 years before the population exchanges.
bruhmanbruuh@reddit
Man , make up your mind.
You were talking about the modern Turkish republic , that is after 1923. So everything I mentioned was AFTER 1923. In 1912 as you mention , Greece didnt own Thrace yet.
>And Western Thrace and Macedonia were acquired by Greece in 1912 (Turkish/Muslim majority), 11 years before the population exchanges.
Even better. Macedonia had mostly Bulgarians, Thrace a muslim plurality. Of that plurality , half were Turks , the rest Pomaks and Gypsies.
>In 1912 (before the population exchanges), no province in Anatolia had a Greek/Christian majority.
Which had to do with the way the provinces were divided.Are we talking about sanjaks, villayets,beyberleks,kazas? Besides, neither did Cyprus or Hatay have majority muslims, but again that didnt stop Turkey.
Once again , when Turks do it , it is good , when others do it , it is bad.
SOHONEYSAME@reddit
🧂🧂.
TurkOmbre@reddit (OP)
I would add that most of the problems have been resolved to the advantage of the Turks:
-Greek independence : End of the Greek presence in Anatolia and Istanbul
-Greek occupation = a disastrous war for the Greeks and the creation of a Turkish national movement that continues to this day
-Attempted illegal annexation of Cyprus to Greece = Turkish intervention and control of the north of the island, which continues to this day.
-Greece joins the European Union and initially benefits, but vetoes Turkey's move = Greece enters a spiral of debt, while Turkey develops its industry and production due to its isolation within the Western world.
-Greece is doing everything to prevent Turkey from controlling its ‘mavi vatan’ = a current situation that is still ongoing but we all know how this story will end.
Old_Resident8050@reddit
Greeks dont even consider themselves as Balkans to begin with lol
TrainingHeavy1666@reddit
We are similar to Balkans. But we are not Balkans. Something like Slovenians. We are neighbors with Balkans but we are really not Balkans.
TurkOmbre@reddit (OP)
They are Westerns ? 😂
Old_Resident8050@reddit
Greeks. They dont consider their land part pf the balkan proper.
TurkOmbre@reddit (OP)
So, Greece is part of Western Europe?
Old_Resident8050@reddit
Greece is southeast Europe
TurkOmbre@reddit (OP)
SouthEAST = Balkans
Old_Resident8050@reddit
Thats what im saying, greeks dont consider themaelfa as Balkans, since the balkan peninsula ends at the northernmost of Greece. Plus not slavic like the vast majority of balkan countries
Embarrassed_Egg9542@reddit
Greeks from 1945 to 1991 considered every other Balkan country an enemy and every Balkan minority a suspicious enemy activity. This has left a strong legacy of hostility.
Fan fact: Greece and Turkey have worked closely against communism as NATO allies while being in cold war against each other
TrainingHeavy1666@reddit
We r like siblings in our days. We fight but we love each other. We just don't like turkey's politicians at all. The people are great
Beneficial_Pea_3981@reddit
They think the feud is funny, there are certain people that act like looney tunes rivals about it so I get their appeal
Active_Drawing_1821@reddit
I’m neither interested in nor informed about their internal issues, so I usually just scroll past those posts.
crispyfunky@reddit
I have never seen a slightly positive or neutral post about Turkey here. It’s all god damn negativity man. Grow up and move on. Every fucking Balkan culture has so much in common just enjoy commonalities rather than hostility of your parents generations.
FuelTheRadiance@reddit
It's hard not to be negative. Modern Turkey is pretty awful and most Turks spend their time obsessing about what others think about them, like the Armenian genocide, instead of having a secure and unflinching positive view on their own culture and history. If I were Turkish, I would never in my life spend time comparing the Armenian genocide to things other countries have done. That's insane. I can't think of anything more below me. If someone told me Turks are savages, I'd say, "That's right, and we're not done."
Sadly, modern Turks aren't like this. They're fucking libbing out everywhere and trying to make people like the Ottoman empire by presenting it as some kind of proto-woke place, lol. This to me is on the level of being a superfan of Mussolini and the Fascists but then saying you don't agree with any of their actual beliefs but you just love their energy and pragmatism. Like, it's basically like being a fake fan. Like being edgy but not going the whole way. This is how I feel about Turks talking about Turkey and the Ottomans.
It's so cringe that I kinda feel like a contamination by proxy. Like, I'm embarrassed to even be part of this revisionist history where we're presenting the Ottomans as some kinda proud proto-liberal paradise. I would be a much better Turk than almost every Turkish person I've encountered.
deselim@reddit
99% of turks don't think about the Armenian genocide one bit. I think you are misinformed.
tabulasomnia@reddit
this isn't surprising. national identity of a bunch of countries are defined by their glorious fight against the ottomans and their goal to bring them back to a golden era before the ottomans.
since for most of the world ottomans = turks, this means for most people we are the big bad evil guy of this region.
TurkOmbre@reddit (OP)
Put thz term ‘glorious fight’ in parentheses because their fight was anything but glorious: helped by genocidal foreign powers, it was a fight followed by genocide against Muslims.
Early-Show2886@reddit
Not only here even in a sub about Ottomans
TurkOmbre@reddit (OP)
The Byzantine sub is worse; if you're Turkish and you offer criticism that goes against the Byzantine Empire, you're banished, whereas in the Ottoman sub, a plurality of ideas is welcome.
Early-Show2886@reddit
well the comments there is also often anti-ottoman, and the Moderators do nothing. They only banned people when they post more as three posting one day this is all. but all the bad comments against ottomans they didnt removed.
AntiKouk@reddit
The Byz sub average member is Justin from Illinois commenting borderline war crimes against Turks and iTs ConStAntTinoPle recycled jokes and the average Ottoman sub member is Arslan from Konya doing propaganda work for a dead empire
Early-Show2886@reddit
I see, yes this was my first thought this Moderators havent knowledge about the Ottoman empire.
LastSeaworthiness767@reddit
Don't lie. I have seen countless number of 'ottoman is rome' in the Byzantine sub. They were not banished
TurkOmbre@reddit (OP)
This kind of comment actually glorifies the Byzantine Empire. If you say that the Ottoman Empire has nothing to do with the Byzantine Empire because it was more prestigious and established a multicultural society, then you will be banned, and the reason will be: denial of the Greek genocide.
In the Ottoman sub, you will see many more people with negative opinions about the Ottoman Empire without being banned. In fact, I have the impression that they are the most numerous.
LastSeaworthiness767@reddit
I think we are using different logic.
determine96@reddit
I mean you are seen as the "eternal enemy".
Like we all used to have beef with you and you are the descendants of the people who gave us the worse or at least the most significant beating, ruling us the longest.
But I aslo think the "Turk hate" is a little bit outdated for most of Bulgarians at least.
We are now at the best relations both with Turkey and with our Turkish minority historically speaking.
Cchungachanga@reddit
79mn105ss105a104@reddit
I find their feud entertaining
GrogmarktheRag@reddit
I think socialism has played a big part. The former socialist Balkan states did everything to supress any nationalist feeling, and even when it failed in Yugoslavia it couldn't be directed at Turks anymore. Meanwhile Greece and Turkey had mostly right-wing nationalist pro-NATO governments from 1945-1991, so that sentiment is much deeper here. Nationalist governments mean that each country teaches a different version of history and continues feeding that sentiment: Greeks learn about the Chios and Missolonghi massacres, the burning of Smyrna, the Armenian/Greek genocides etc, Turks learn about the Tripolitsa massacre, the Crete massacres/expulsions, the war crimes during the Greek invasion, the Cyprus ethnic riots etc.
treba_dzemper@reddit
I always imagine a Durum Kebab and Gyros with mouths arguing and then it's acutally entertaining.
Fit_Seaweed_7780@reddit
I didn't notice. Maybe algorithm doesn't show me
PVanchurov@reddit
I love it when my vacation spot and my shopping mall are fighting.
UnhappyBreadfruit607@reddit
We are doing everything to in order to make your expenses cheaper we even scare other customers away.🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
HorrorsPersistSoDoI@reddit
mashalla
Substratas@reddit
We haven’t had the chance to show our talent yet 🇦🇱 just wait and see!
Repulsive_Work_226@reddit
well population of Turkiye is 86 million more than the Balkans combined. you will hardly find Turks in r/middleeast r/asia. People come to discharge in a way.
Greeks similar although 10 million they are active. They also have a big diaspora always ready to mingle.
tabulasomnia@reddit
no other regional sub is as fun as the balkan subs, not gonna lie
Dull_Cucumber_3908@reddit
Because Turkey and Greece are the most important countries in the Balkans?
NegotiationSweet5082@reddit
Together, we make up two-thirds of the total population.
HorrorsPersistSoDoI@reddit
don't count the asian part
tabulasomnia@reddit
don't count slovenia or half of croatia then
Substratas@reddit
https://i.redd.it/iublelf9fsxg1.gif
geniuslogitech@reddit
nobody1568@reddit
It's disgusting. This sub has become a playground for Greek and Turkish nationalist spammers, ironically the least Balkan of the Balkan countries. I blame the mods for letting these spammers take over.
TurkOmbre@reddit (OP)
Admit it, you also create content about Greece.
Turks, Greeks, we've all done it 😅
nobody1568@reddit
I admit it, I shit on Greece and Turkey whenever I can.
TurkOmbre@reddit (OP)
by creating content, I imagine 😁
nobody1568@reddit
By commenting.
BeeUnfair4086@reddit
You could just say, yes.
nobody1568@reddit
I don't need to lie.
VisibleReport5008@reddit
every week theres spam about cyprus or aegean dispute
Substratas@reddit
I don’t think they’re more focused on Turkey & Greece tbh.
Ujemegaz@reddit
More like indirectely aimimg at Albanians 🤣
Napoleonvece@reddit
Turkey: 80 or 90 million people.. Turkish rival Greece: 10 million.. Serbia: 6.5 million. Serbian rivals Croatia: less than 4 million, Albania: less than 3 million. Its so simple
TurkOmbre@reddit (OP)
I don't think it's related. Because when I look at the geographical origin of the views, there isn't a significant difference between Turkey/Greece and Serbia/Romania/Bulgaria.
One_Conversation3886@reddit
100% support greek brothers. Remove kebap
riquelm@reddit
I don't know wtf is happening, honestly too lazy to follow, but I cheer for the Greeks
NegotiationSweet5082@reddit
Şimdi sadece sesli sesli düşüyorum ama bir ihtimal yani küçük bir olasılıkla falan hani BU İKİ ÜLKE TOPLAM BALKAN NÜFUSUNUN ÜÇTE İKİSİNİ OLULTURDUĞU İÇİN OLABİLİR Mİ?????
TurkOmbre@reddit (OP)
alakası yok, mesela postlarımı hangi ülkelerden bakıldığını kontrol edince Türkiye-Yunanistan ve diğer ülkeler arasında uçurum bir fark yok. Sırplar, Romenler, Bulgarlar falan da oldukça kalabalıklar
Ujemegaz@reddit
Wdym, that Daku wasn't skewered and grilled like shishqebap by fellow Albanians 😜