Jeremy Clarkson shares sad news from the farm 😕🐑

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letitia1959@reddit

Crows are absolutely brutal during lambing season. They usually go straight for the eyes if the lamb is weak or just born. The show really doesn't pull any punches when showing how grim farming actually is.

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ECrispy@reddit

there is nothing more brutal than humans. its funny jeremy glosses over the cruelty of industrial animal farming or where his beef, pork, chicken, milk, cheese, butter etc come from and the torture of animals involved, but posts this pic to seem like he gives a damn

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TactX21@reddit

Living on a nice open field is torture, right…

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Ok_Introduction2563@reddit

Jeremy kills all the animals regardless.

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_Ishmael@reddit

I assume the kid was going to be killed anyway?

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Themaninthehat1@reddit

Probably but better humanly

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muddyleeking@reddit

Apparently pigs being gassed is humane

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Themaninthehat1@reddit

Same as anaesthetic better that then halal

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muddyleeking@reddit

Nope. It's CO2 they're gassed with, which causes huge amounts of pain stress and anxiety.

https://projectslingshot.com/campaign/gas-chambers/

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Themaninthehat1@reddit

Sorry I meant same effect yea it basically feel like they’re chocking for 10-30 seconds it’s not right but it’s better then nothing and letting them bleed out

I should state I work in this field the whole goal is to reduce suffering and stress not only for the actual quality of the meat but to keep it humane

Yes we use practise like this but the alternative is no relief at all. What I don’t understand with movements like this is what do you want us to do. no matter how much you protest it people won’t stop eating it and more expensive methods like stun gunning, organic raised will just raise the prices for consumers pushing those who can’t afford it to move to cheap less humane products.

I understand why people push for more animal rights and want more organic products but it’s just not feasible for the wider public what we need to do is band together and help reduce the cost of farming at the source not target the abattoirs for unreasonable standers

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muddyleeking@reddit

What's more humane about choking an animal to death in a factory than it dying through being killed by a predator?

I disagree with the way animals are slaughtered in mass farming but that's not really my point here.

Why should we be sad that a lamb has been killed by a crow rather than gassed? The only difference is in one case it can't be sold.

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Themaninthehat1@reddit

They’re not killed by the gas just stunned and 30s rather then several minutes bleeding out orsuffering dying to an infection over who knows how long

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Super_Shallot2351@reddit

"Humanly" lol

How do you humanely butcher a creature that doesn't want to die?

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Themaninthehat1@reddit

Because it wouldn’t be alive in the first place if not reared on a farm

halal slaughter that’s inhumane (for those who don’t know they’re not stunned before killing)

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JustUrAvg-Depresso@reddit

Anything ever want to die?. Animals in the wild rip out throats whilst it's still alive, animals in the wild gut their kills alive...injury babies to attract parents. Do they want to die? No..but you don't complain, it's only when a butcher is doing it to feed the masses is when you complain

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JustUrAvg-Depresso@reddit

People complain when animals get killed for farming purposes like they have been since the Advent of farming and before that through hunting. But they don't complain and are happy to become vegan/vegetarian so you can kill 1000s more animals just to protect crops, that doesn't account for the water ways poisoned by pesticides, soil ruined for generations...yada yada. You don't complain for the animal, you don't complain for humanitarian reasons on...you complain for yourself, complain to make yourself feel better and look better

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_Ishmael@reddit

The ‘vegans kill more animals through crops’ argument doesn’t really hold up. Livestock eat huge amounts of crops, so meat production actually increases the amount of farming—and the harm that comes with it.

And ‘animals kill animals’ isn’t a moral argument, it’s just a description of nature. By that logic, anything natural would be justified, which isn’t how we make ethical decisions.

If the goal is to reduce harm, eating plants directly is still the more consistent position.

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kh250b1@reddit

No it was going to be sent away to live on a farm

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ManInTheDarkSuit@reddit

Crows were probably freed by somebody like this person who destroyed the trap to free them.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RuralUK/comments/1svd6m1/middle_of_field_middle_of_nowhere_cage_with_two/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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Powerful_Balance591@reddit

Saw that the other day, absolute numpty

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CarrAndHisWarCrimes@reddit

My favourite comment was someone dismissing that Crows can harm other wildlife on the basis they’re called Carrion Crows and not Killing Crows.. Sadly replies were blocked and I couldn’t ask him why Bald Eagles have feathers :(

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Powerful_Balance591@reddit

Wait until they learn about honey badgers!

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Super_Shallot2351@reddit

"This lamb that I was going to kill and sell for profit was killed by a different animal!"

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CarrAndHisWarCrimes@reddit

If you’re going to die regardless of outcome, would you rather live a relatively comfortable life and then have a bolt driven through your brain causing instantaneous death ? Or would you rather your eyes and tongue be pecked out by birds and then have the birds peck at any and all soft vulnerable parts they can get to, and in the case of you not being found for a few hours left to endure this before eventually you get the same ending as the first option, of having your brain destroyed most likely by a bullet ?

Given those two options which would you prefer ? As I know which one I would prefer.

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Dizzy-Okra-4816@reddit

Right? The moral confusion of meat-eaters

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hashsamurai@reddit

I might start eating meat the way vegans seem to think we do, just start ripping the faces off baby animals and munching on them, popping the eyes out for a snack as the baby crown's that sort of thing.

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Dizzy-Okra-4816@reddit

Nice strawman, though since you specified “baby animals”, are you aware of the slaughter age of chickens? (UK?

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hashsamurai@reddit

I've got some in the garden, I also enjoy veal, I won't apologise for consuming life. We all do it, I'm just honest about it.

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magiclong@reddit

I refuse to believe that somebody could fail to see the nuance of this situation, which is that death by farming is preferable to having your eyes pecked out and face ripped off whilst still alive.

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BC0RP@reddit

Does a more 'humane' slaughter justify the death when the death isn't necessary?

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magiclong@reddit

It depends on your definition of necessary. Necessary as in the hypothetical scenario of the world turning vegan or the actual reality that the world isn’t and likely never will be vegan? Because if the latter than yeah, animal deaths to provide meat are absolutely necessary and justified.

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Dizzy-Okra-4816@reddit

False dichotomy, the lamb didn’t have to be bred into existence as a slave to be killed at all.

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magiclong@reddit

I’m really not interested in arguing the ethics of veganism. The fact is we don’t live in a vegan world, so farming is not only necessary but also arguably the most important industry in the world.

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muddyleeking@reddit

So many people dont associate the cute animals they see in farmers fields with the meat in packaging they see in the supermarket. One lamb is an animal, one lamb is a meat

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BC0RP@reddit

Happy to see some sane takes here. Funny how comments pointing out the hypocrisy are being downvoted. People calling the crows vicious when they'd happily pay for this baby to be chopped up.

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Hyperion262@reddit

When you woke up this morning, were you aware today was the day you would finally learn what a farm is?

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liftguy111@reddit

I was visiting a farm in Scotland that was in our family from 1225 to 1666 that raised sheep. (the owners knew more of my family’s history than I did) The small covered corral next to the house was where they put the lambs so they could keep an eye on them. There were 15-20 dead crows hanging from the roof and walls to “teach them fucking crows a lesson”

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tannercolin@reddit

Are you part of a clan? I wish I could trace my family links back to 1225

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Delicious-Site7792@reddit

Can’t imagine why this was downvoted

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Freddyeddy123@reddit

People probably assumed they were one of those Americans that are obsessed with their origin country even though no one in their family has lived there in 4 generations.

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Delicious-Site7792@reddit

Yikes. Holy gatekeepers 😂. Heaven forbid you know about your own bloodline

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magiclong@reddit

Knowing about your bloodline isn’t the same as larping as a nationality online that hasn’t been relevant to you or your family since the 1700s

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Delicious-Site7792@reddit

Correct, however the person was infact British, and wished, (regardless of where they reside now) to learn more about their bloodline. A bunch of gatekeeping euros assumed incorrectly

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