ULPT: PSA - Flock camera's can be disabled with high power paintball guns

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FittyTheBone@reddit

You can also buy a 3-5W laser and use it to clean algae off fish tanks as intended

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A class IV laser, i.e one that has output of over 500mw, will INSTANTLY PERMANENTLY BLIND ANYONE WHO LOOKS AT THE LASER'S DOT. Lower power class IV will cause localized permanent blindness where the dot was in your field of view. For 3-5w? If the laser's dot is within your field of view? LIGHTS OUT FOREVER.

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NekoBerry420@reddit

That's insane. There's no way the general public could get a hold of those right? If that's true that sounds like some kind of terror weapon.

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FikaMedHasse@reddit

For the effects described above I'd estimate you'd need something in the 5-10W range. Here is a 112W alternative on ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/316506614810

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UnethicalLifeProTips-ModTeam@reddit

Your post or comment was removed for violating rule 10: No Solicitation / Advertising / Transactions / Self-promotion of any kind.

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Undrwtrbsktwvr@reddit

That’s not terrifying…

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CumAndMoreCumPartIII@reddit

In the US you can own pretty much whatever you want, sometimes it just takes filling out the right paperwork and (more importantly) giving the right people the right amount of money.

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maxpowerAU@reddit

Welcome to America

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ErikGoesBoomski@reddit

My guy. If you have a few stacks laying about that you do not need, you can get yourself a 10,000 solid state fiber laser source from china. All you need from there is a controller, a collumnator, and a way to focus the beam.

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Yergnoch@reddit

If you got one of those rust-removing lasers, you could probably just cut/melt the aluminum pole in half.

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Edgarmustavas@reddit

I'll call Chris Knight and Mitch Taylor.

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chezzer33@reddit

I’ll get the popcorn!

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SPRINGintheSTEP@reddit

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Yergnoch@reddit

Sanwu Lasers. 7.5W blue available. I myself prefer an 1800mW 405nM unit. USE PROPER EYE PROTECTION PEOPLE!

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KingSwank@reddit

The general public in like at least half of the United States can buy a gun.

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JarBlaster@reddit

I'm sorry you have to learn about things like this LMAO. Yeah no, they've been freely available off eBay and the like for well over a decade now.

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liedele@reddit

There is now a company that uses lasers to trim very tall trees.

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grumpy_autist@reddit

this, but I don't know why 100 mW laser would not also work pretty fine for cleaning algae. Just hold it on for longer - you know, physics, temperature, etc.

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mehhhidk@reddit

Is there a laser to clean algae off fish tanks you suggest?

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FittyTheBone@reddit

I got mine from a company named Zeus Lasers. It is scary powerful.

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ecodick@reddit

Would an IR laser be able to accomplish the same thing without a signature visible to the naked eye?

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standardtissue@reddit

No. IR is not visible, but significant IR radiation will absolutely still blind people. It's one of the reasons you can't buy military powered active aiming devices (ie, ir lasers for use on rifles). In fact since IR won't trigger a blink response, a lower powered IR may be even more of a threat than a lower powered visible laser.

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ecodick@reddit

so i see the comment i replied to is deleted, but what you're actually telling me is yes, it would work on a camera sensor.

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standardtissue@reddit

Yes, it will, and it will carry the same risk of hurting other people that a visible light laser would.

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salty_drafter@reddit

Even though you can't see IR it can still damage your eyes. Honestly those are probably even more dangerous due to not being to see the beam.

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dontquestionmyaction@reddit

You're gonna burn your eyesight smoove off within a split second with those without eye protection at least twice as expensive as the laser, be real careful

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ecodick@reddit

i appreciate the warning, i'm well aware of the dangers, but very good to post a public comment.

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FittyTheBone@reddit

No clue. I'm just a guy who bought a laser pointer he is now scared to use.

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Mediumcomputer@reddit

Be careful if something scatters the light and you get a tiny reflection except it’s bullets to your retina

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FittyTheBone@reddit

i've never used it without eye pro. holdover from middle school science.

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Mediumcomputer@reddit

I mean for others right. It’s a dazzler. You don’t want to partially blind a civilian.

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FittyTheBone@reddit

Oh this would fully blind someone within 30m. The safety range to avoid partial blindness was something like 250m.

It honestly scares me to use outside of some very controlled ways. I made some cool wood burn patterns on our garden boxes last spring.

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cyrusthemarginal@reddit

Unless.....

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Venarius@reddit

You can buy clear safety goggles that are UV rated at Lowes/home depot for like 20 bucks. I'm sure there's something cheaper on Temu, but if your eyesight depends on it... don't skip on Quality Control.

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TheIronSoldier2@reddit

Those are NOT laser safety goggles. Do NOT use them as such.

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haleontology@reddit

Omg the usernames in this thread 🤣🤣🤣

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DerangedDiphthong@reddit

Nah dog, take that link down. The tiniest reflection for a brief second causes permanent blindness. The people who would need a reddit link to find this, aren't the ones who you want to have these lasers.

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PeanutButterSoda@reddit

I'm watching maul rn but they look like those skinny lightsabers that clone wars had.

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aspie_electrician@reddit

One designed for laser cutters

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PlzTyroneDontHurtEm@reddit

Im also interested if that's a real thing

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FittyTheBone@reddit

here ya go

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MsLogophile@reddit

Right

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TheIronSoldier2@reddit

Do not do this. The chance of you blinding or otherwise permanently damaging your own vision or others is extremely high. Especially outdoors.

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grumpy_autist@reddit

Laser pointer can reach ISS space station. It was tested few years ago (confirmed by onboard webcam stream) (yes I know about power equation)

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Yergnoch@reddit

1 W will reach the moon. The beam will have spread out too far to be visible on Earth though.

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quix0te@reddit

So what I'm hearing is I can clean a fishtank from a mile away, if I have a spotting scope. The main danger is accidentally blinding someone downrange.

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grumpy_autist@reddit

or yourself if a backscatter enters the scope

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FittyTheBone@reddit

bro we're just talking fish maintenance

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attentyv@reddit

Oh so you’re blinding the fish now. What is this, some kind of ritual optical circumcision?

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TheIronSoldier2@reddit

I'm well aware. Even making this recommendation for "fish maintenance" is fucking dangerous.

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FittyTheBone@reddit

Well, we aren't on r/superdupersafeLifeProTips now are we?

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TheIronSoldier2@reddit

Rule 8: No illegal tips:
Blinding people is, in fact, illegal.

Rule 15: Don't get OP killed:
While this won't get OP killed, it has a pretty high risk of blinding them or others.

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FittyTheBone@reddit

Cleaning an aquarium is, in fact, legal. If OP dies cleaning an aquarium, let me know.

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TheIronSoldier2@reddit

We all know exactly what you're talking about dog. You ain't slick. And I don't know about you but I for one don't want to be blinded when some dumbass follows your "fishtank cleaning" advice and bounces the laser into my fucking eyes.

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FittyTheBone@reddit

I’m very obviously not being slick, dude.

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quiette837@reddit

You literally said "the thing is I don't own any fish".

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Kekistani_MemeLord@reddit

You realize other animals can live in a fish tank?

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TheLandOfConfusion@reddit

A. Nobody said aim the laser at people they said aim it at the camera

B. Like you say, won’t kill OP. Enough said

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TheIronSoldier2@reddit

Fun fact: Even the reflection is strong enough to blind people.

"Please don't kill OP" applies to things that will permanently injured OP

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depremol@reddit

Ahahaha xdddd well played sir! Have my upvote

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Aemort@reddit

Unethical LPT aside, I had no idea that you could use it for that lol

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quix0te@reddit

If you thought you might enter a fishtank dystopia, you might have bought one a while ago.

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quix0te@reddit

Thank you sir. A lot of people don't know how easy it is to clean a fish tank with a good laser.

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dryfire@reddit

How does that work? Do you just tape it to the fish's head Dr Evil style?

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UserCheckNamesOut@reddit

Probably good for removing fungus from camera lenses

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heyitscory@reddit

I can use my camera blinder for algae?

That's not bad for the fish?

Is this for those deep cleans where the fish are in a bucket on the counter?

Or should I just give the fish orange eye protection?

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FittyTheBone@reddit

here's the thing. I don't own any fish.

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thudlife2020@reddit

Taking out one camera in a big network isn’t going to change anything, it just puts you at risk of getting in serious trouble.

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Jedi_Hog@reddit

Ive got lots of algae, if you have a recommendation for a laser to clean it, I would be very thankful!

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Vegaprime@reddit

Can't find a laser just uv.

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13Krytical@reddit

Just remember they parter with Amazon/Ring, so every house is also following your movements to and from those cameras

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brainhack3r@reddit

This is what scares me because Amazon/Ring now has a global monitoring network of the entire country. Audio too via Alexa.

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PsyrusTheGreat@reddit

And people happily pay them for this...

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Best_Designer_1675@reddit

Genuine question: Does Blink participate in this because they’re owned by Amazon? But they’re distinctly different from Ring. Just unclear how that works. Not sure if here is the place to ask

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Timmerdogg@reddit

That's why I use a Google home

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YouSnuffTheBlaze@reddit

Yeah Google has a great track record of privacy

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Slayr79@reddit

Have a friend pick you up and drop you off with a bicycle or skateboard somewhere out of sight then go from there

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playerIII@reddit

somewhere out of site

yeah see thats the problem

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Greedy-Psychology-21@reddit

What are Flock cameras?

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svh01973@reddit

Traffic-monitoring cameras that record license plates. They're being put up around the country to track movements.

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BitteFritte@reddit

But why are they bad? In europe we have cameras that check license plates and check if we have mandatory insurance and stuff (if we dont we get issued a ticket by the cameras)

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CumAndMoreCumPartIII@reddit

They don't just track license plates, they use facial recognition as well, and the data is far from secure.

They're also being used by government entities for all sorts of nobel purposes. Things like enabling cops to stalk their exes or track people for ICE to kidnap.

If you're curious, the YouTuber Benn Jordan has made several good videos talking about them.

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lpbale0@reddit

They record more than license plates. They fingerprint the entire car and take inventory of make, model, trim, rims, detailing, hitches, dents, scrapes, busted headlights, et cetera for improved target match confidence.

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Greedy-Psychology-21@reddit

In the US I guess right

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standardtissue@reddit

Mostly in the US. They are expanding to South Africa via a partnership. Also, they use gig workers in cheap countries to analyze footage, so it's double privacy invasion - not only do they surveil you, but they expatriate the data and share it with foreigners as well.

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No_Individual501@reddit

The US is the world.

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SuitableExercise7096@reddit

https://deflock.org/

You should really know educate yourself about these

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Seeeab@reddit

Weird how all around me they're just all at Lowe's and Home Depot parking lots

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Cauthons_Gamble@reddit

Duuuude, same. Checked the areas near my house - both Home Depots and the Lowes have main entrances to their lots covered, basically the whole lot covered, and major intersections around them covered.

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Circular-ideation@reddit

”Not Looking” for customers of certain skin colors or with specific bumper decals yet, right…

…but certainly seeing them.

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Greedy-Psychology-21@reddit

I don't live in the US.

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Dregan3D@reddit

It's a matter of time until they or one of their competitors get to wherever you are, if there isn't already something like that in place. Even if this doesn't affect you now, with Flock, it will affect you eventually with one company or another.

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Greedy-Psychology-21@reddit

As I mentioned on another comment, "Yep, we have something similar here. I just didn't know Flock. 100% approve the paintball and laser methods"

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MisterProfGuy@reddit

You should still educate yourself about this topic, because authoritarians pretending to care about public safety is everywhere. Europe and Asia have more cameras that already report more to the government than we didn't tolerate until recently in the US.

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Greedy-Psychology-21@reddit

Yep, we have something similar here. I just didn't know Flock. 100% approve the paintball and laser methods

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bobo_1111@reddit

Flock is a brand. They a ALPR (automatic license plate readers)

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Valeixh@reddit

Could just google it instead of being downvoted for not knowing what something is

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Greedy-Psychology-21@reddit

Right? Shame on me for wanting to interact with people! Downvote me! /s

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RudeOrSarcasticPt2@reddit

The US has proven otherwise. It is as much a wannabe fascist shithole as Russia or NK.

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Odd_Reputation_4000@reddit

Somebody ran over the one about a mile down the road from me. Looks like they just swerved off the shoulder, plowed the pole down and kept going.

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Snag710@reddit

What about an ftp server in your car like a hacked dji drone sitting in your back seat that blocks certain ports with a high powered antena

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StalkMeNowCrazyLady@reddit

So I work with security cameras for a living. It sucks to say but you really are fighting an up hill battle. Use a paintball gun, laser, or whatever else reddit can cook up to disable the camera. Within a week it's just getting replaced on a service call. Even if you keep doing so it will just result in more service calls and eventually adding cages/enclosures or even more cameras in the area. All of these are charged service calls because warranty doesn't cover destruction of devices. So each camera you kill is literally just more profit for the mfg and installers.

You want to actually hurt flock? Make FOIA requests for the data it's collected. If the city/county/state paid for them with tax money then that data belongs to you. If it's in a suburban neighborhood then the HOA or management district is the one paying for it so go to those meetings and vote to get those taken down by rallying your neighbors to attend and vote with you.

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Omelooo@reddit

If you do this there is a strong chance they’re going to follow you back to your house if you walked, where they’ll establish probable cause for a warrant, see your purchase and search histories, and then lock you up so fast.

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Slayr79@reddit

Or pay a homeless person $100 to do it for you

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StalkMeNowCrazyLady@reddit

The homeless guys going to take the $100 and just dip.

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TheIronSoldier2@reddit

And then when the homeless guy rats you out?

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Speoder@reddit

They won't because in my area you get Three hots and a cot.

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NekoBerry420@reddit

That's why you disguise out of town, do your thing, dip out of town and undisguise.

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Bea-Billionaire@reddit

Who's going to follow you home? The flock camera? The flock camera operator sitting in an invisible tower next to the camera? Dumb.

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jdthejerk@reddit

I've read those cameras and lines have a lot of copper in them, about $40 worth. It would be a shame if local copper thieves learned of that.

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StalkMeNowCrazyLady@reddit

Well you got lied to. The camera it's self, it's solar panel, the cellular unit, and the cat cable connecting them may have about a half dollar worth of copper in them. Copper is $3-4 a pound. The entire camera, cell unit, cable, and solar panel don't even weigh a combined 10 pounds that would get you to $40. And that copper price is based on bright clean stripped copper. You get pennies on the dollar for turning in unstripped cable, and electronics.

You'd make more money from scrap for cutting down the aluminum pole it sits on and turning that in.

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Crazyhates@reddit

Also reusable solar panels and some batteries on the inside.

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ssh98109@reddit

With all the talk of lasers, I’m surprised nobody has mentioned Styro Pyro. I lost 2 days on YouTube watching his content. https://www.youtube.com/user/styropyro

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SuitableExercise7096@reddit

If your're considering anything like this...

Dont drive anywhere near by the area.

They can and will find you.

Scooters and bikes are very affective when you're making your point.

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ShadowNick@reddit

Anything but a vehicle and don't ever bring a phone with you.

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SpellingIsAhful@reddit

Also, leave your face at homw

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lpbale0@reddit

Wearing a hoodie with infrared LEDs lining the inside perimeter of the hood situated such that the output is projected outwards may be enough to washout any features of your face to prevent facial recognition or maybe even blind the camera outright when you are within its view angle.

Someone should test this

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tdsknr@reddit

Bank robber, McArthur Wheeler, covered his face with lemon juice in January 1995 before robbing two banks in Pittsburgh. He mistakenly believed that because lemon juice can be used as invisible ink, it would also render his face invisible to security cameras.

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standardtissue@reddit

People have done exactly that.

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roflpotato@reddit

or borrow someone else's. like in that movie where nick cage plays a character played by not nick cage

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adrock517@reddit

Face Off

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gattboy1@reddit

Flock Off

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millenniumxl-200@reddit

Something something fava beans and a nice Chianti.

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Realistic_Wedding@reddit

Akchully, Nick Cage plays the character that isn’t being played by the other lad. It’s that Scientologist fella that plays the character that isn’t being played by Nick Cage even though it is.

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roflpotato@reddit

to be fair, i haven't actually watched the documentary myself

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Ali-o-ramus@reddit

Or pick out a new one at the House of Black and White

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apprehensive_anus@reddit

this makes me imagine ppl wearing something like this for fun. why not embrace this cyberpunk dystopia with a little whimsy

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TwoOk5044@reddit

I keep mine in a jar by the door.

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rnpowers@reddit

Or fitness/health device

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bkn95@reddit

i did-ent

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Squatront@reddit

Also, paint can be cleaned. Combustible projectiles cannot.

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lpbale0@reddit

Not it you freeze them first

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Princess_Moon_Butt@reddit

Dyed glue or dyed epoxy is also quite tough to clean up.

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HeKis4@reddit

... Freshly mixed epoxy in paintballs you say ?

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Princess_Moon_Butt@reddit

Yes, but obviously only in designated paintball arenas- you definitely wouldn't want any of that to get onto sensitive electronic components, or to drip into keyholes, or covering any sensors/cameras of any kind, especially if you mix in dyes to make it your own deep/vibrant color!

...It would probably be difficult to actually get 2-part resin into a paintball, and use it, in a short enough time period for them not to just become solid pellets, though. Which would obviously still work on cameras, but like... at that point just use a BB gun or something.

Real talk: someone smarter than me should look at the feasibility of UV-printing resin paintballs, in such a way that they trap UV-reactive resin inside the pellet. Print them, cure the outside layer, launch them. They crack open, the still-raw resin splatters out, and the sun cures and hardens it. (Just find the least eco-harmful resin possible.)

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HeKis4@reddit

Nah I'm saying to use it on the cameras. I'm not from the US, Flock and Palantir can suck my d-.

And yeah the UV resin thing is simple in concept, it often happens involuntarily when you 3D print a hollow model but you forget to put holes in it, and since resin 3D printed stuff is made in the middle of a liquid resin vat, well... The hard part would be to calibrate the wall thickness to make it fragile enough to break on impact but not when it is fired.

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chuby2005@reddit

Also having to send someone out every day kinda defeats the purpose of the cameras.

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TKLeader@reddit

And skateboards ✌️

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grumpy_autist@reddit

Unless your scooter broadcasts Bluetooth frames. For fucks sake do not wear or bring there anything that has a battery.

I worked with bluetooth sniffers and analyzers - you would not believe shit that is broadcasted but invisible to 99.9% people.

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lpbale0@reddit

It's almost unpossible now. There was a damned inventory control radio tag on box of bakery fresh croissants I picked up from the store the other day.....

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ImNotABotScoutsHonor@reddit

Scooters and bikes are very affective

effective*

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VintageKofta@reddit

Effective *

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Roving_Ibex@reddit

If its connected to the internet, you will be identified

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iH8MotherTeresa@reddit

Neither here nor there but I don't think I've ever seen affective misused. No dig or judgment; I'm actually a little impressed.

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PineappleWhipped14@reddit

Yeah I would assume people doing vigilantism understand the issues with flock and their tracking capabilities. But you know what they say about assumptions

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bkn95@reddit

even more ULPT: a paintball and a glass marble are very similar in diameter

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Doublestack00@reddit

Pellet guns also work.

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SpellingIsAhful@reddit

And shotguns

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Unhappy-Idea-1956@reddit

And my axe!

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Steveeee974@reddit

And my sword!

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lpbale0@reddit

An actual honest to God air rifle would be better. The kind you can actually bag small to medium game with.

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donau_kinder@reddit

A good .25 airgun will punch through the plastic housing and any internal components from 50 meters. Or so I've been told.

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stabbingrabbit@reddit

Will lasers disable them?

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SeanFrank@reddit

Lasers are much more discrete.

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Nanocephalic@reddit

Pulsed lasers are discrete. CW lasers are continuous.

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Intelligent-Guard267@reddit

We’re going about this all wrong - it needs to be the latest tiktok trend. There’s probably a super rare pokeman card inside each of them. Its a race to collect them all!

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lpbale0@reddit

There is a story, might be one of those urban legend type things, where a student at MIT went to the football field of Harvard everyday and blew a whistle and then threw birdseed everywhere. The birds became conditioned to the sound of a whistle accompanying availability of food.

Come the next football game and a ref blew a whistle, the field was swarmed with birds.

Birds do a lot of shitting. Bird shit gets pretty baked-on in the sun.

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Crazyleviman@reddit

Just cover the solar part with vinyl. 2 weeks it will be dead.

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Embarrassed-Sun5764@reddit

You can not go anywhere without someone knowing. My phone knows when I’m going to work and on my days off when I’m going to pick up a 6 pack. When I go to the grocery store after work. Phone connected to car. Car is Ford; ford sells data. I’m sure everyone from HS to my insurance company knows when I shower and what music i listen to. I’ve turned off data in car and going to disconnect phone from it, nobody calls me anyway while I’m driving and I hate this data sharing 💩

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lpbale0@reddit

Just wait till you hear about Ford's new patent for in vehicle facial recognition for access control and use restriction. Also calling the cops on you....

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KingGinger3187@reddit

You shower?

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headnt8888@reddit

Black Snake it

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ImNotABotScoutsHonor@reddit

Moan?

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mnemonicexile@reddit

…or… hear me out, a high power laser at distance.

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internauta@reddit

Unethical yes, but also stupid

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dos_passenger58@reddit

Haha, so is there a laser pointer sight option for this laser

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No-Phrase-4692@reddit

This isn’t unethical though.

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rando_mness@reddit

Mand it'd be a shame if random people started damaging that private company's cameras.

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dirtymoney@reddit

W0uld be interesting if crop dusting spray drones could be programmed to clean large amounts of flock cams in one area.

Wasnt there a bunch of those reported st0len in jersey recently?

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iipok@reddit

High power rifles work too.

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Chuyzapatist@reddit

https://youtube.com/shorts/tCKmWVM5iuc?si=eavcz5aSL433CtwT

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0hden@reddit

Dont do this... I swear this sub is just fed bait to incite the dumb public and then ramp up more stuff like this. Also, don't think they won't request security footage from your neighbors

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LimpBizkit420Swag@reddit

I know you're getting hammered with downvoted for the truth. This type of crap just incites Instagram warriors out to go do stupid surface level crap that's just going to get them into trouble, a d cause nothing but elevated security budgets to churn out more of this type of heavy tracking.

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extra_legendary@reddit

Meanwhile, auto theft is at an all time high and this is one of the few tools that help aid in getting people their cars back. But that's none of my business...

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IntroductionNeat2746@reddit

A toy grade drone can be modified to carry a small laser and activate it when needed.

For cleaning out of reach windows.

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