Only $114.000 per person

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CreasingUnicorn@reddit

At $39 trillion, and a US population of about 350 million people, it would be around $120,000 per person to pay this off.

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Available_Road_2538@reddit

Is this jackass really doing vibes based algebra

The absolute state of brain rot

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CreasingUnicorn@reddit

Nah $114k was close, but misread your number.

I couldn't read your number cause I'm a red blooded American and stopped reading your number as soon as i saw the period.

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DreamsServedSoft@reddit

adjust it for the working population. then the non working population should be the ones to pay it

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CreasingUnicorn@reddit

Elon reached his social security tax limit for 2026 on Jan 1st, 2026.

Why is there a cap on that? Social security would be funded in full if there was no cap on the tax, yet we let the rich walk away witbout co tributing anything close to their fair share.

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and how are neets going to pay that? always look down, never dare to look up and question them. let beezos, politicans and co waste their billions graping kids, instead of making them pay for the shitty debt they are rsponsible for.

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Chi_Cazzo_Sei@reddit

Americans won’t figure this out with their 5th Grade reading comprehension level.

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snizarsnarfsnarf@reddit

To pay this off in taxes, rather than a donation, assuming a retarded US 35% tax bracket for someone with this high of an income, every single US resident including children, the disabled and the retired would need to earn $342,000. The median is $61,000. Federal minimum wage is $15,000 annually.

This would also require 0 federal funding the year this is done. It would also be 3x more than our actual current GDP is (if you believe inflated GDP numbers)

This is also using one specific version of the debt figure, there are others you can use that are higher than 39 trillion.

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AlcoreRain@reddit

> Oh nonono socialism is so bad!

> Please save me with socialism

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zrock44@reddit

Donating of your own free will isn't socialism.

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AlcoreRain@reddit

It actually is though.

You share what you can to those in need in hopes of the betterment of the whole society.

Capitalism is all about the fake "pull yourself up by your bootstraps".

Treat others like you would like to be treated, and think for those who come after. That's socialism.

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zrock44@reddit

Socialism is forced sharing. Do you actually know this little about it?

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AlcoreRain@reddit

Best countries to live in the world (North of Europe, Spain, Japan, etc) all have socialist bases.

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AlcoreRain@reddit

You really don't understand that there are socialist people?

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FuckRedditIsLame@reddit

Charity isn't socialism.

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AlcoreRain@reddit

Charity is just discount socialism

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FuckRedditIsLame@reddit

I mean socialism is charity by force, administered by the state, I guess, real charity is a personal decision, made outside the bounds of the state and taxation and obligation.

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AlcoreRain@reddit

Socialism is a personal decision by many people, and the state doesn't force it, you vote for it and it is administered according to the necessity.

Charity would be inexistent in a truly socialist society.

But instead we have capitalism charity, where more than half of it are scams hahahh

And of course rich people launder money through "charity" don't be naive.

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FuckRedditIsLame@reddit

Lol, it is far from a group 'personal decision', and the state does force it - you don't get to opt out - you're going to be taxed and decisions about how this is used will be completely out of your hands for better and for worse.

But instead we have capitalism charity, where more than half of it are scams hahahh

You'd need to back that up with some evidence.

And of course rich people launder money through "charity" don't be naive.

The wealthy don't use charity to 'launder money', they use it to reduce their tax burden.

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AlcoreRain@reddit

Nope, that's what happens with capitalism. In a socialist democracy you chose your representatives and their policies through vote.

Don't be naive, you are never going to get rich. Oh if they only payed the same taxes as us hahahha

There are people with trillions of dollars out there, directly influencing governments. Seriously man, look around.

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FuckRedditIsLame@reddit

You're either very young, or pretty stupid if you really believe what you're saying. Either way, it's no big deal to me.

you are never going to get rich

I'm almost certainly wealthier than you, and I'm absolutely a 1 percenter already - I'm not going to be anything other than what I already am.

There are people with trillions of dollars out there, directly influencing governments.

Wow. You mean money buys power and influence? You're blowing my mind man.

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johnnylovelace@reddit

^ “Socialism is when flat tax”

???

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Sarojh-M@reddit

Yes, socialism is when tax. Good job figuring it out

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johnnylovelace@reddit

Yes the popular socialist slogan “from each according to his abilities to each according to his needs” can be clearly boiled down to “homeless people pay the same tax rate as billionaires”

Next time you see a school bus get on it

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Apprehensive-Toe4160@reddit

It sure can. Because you are talking about rate, not exact sum. Yes, everyone has to pay x percent. For someone it would be dollar, for others it would be thousand. It can't be more socialist than that.

Fair (and not socialist) would be demanding of same amount from everyone. So for example, everyone pays 500. That payment wont be "according to abilities" because someone would pay more than he is capable, someone less.

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sprakes_@reddit

Oh so 3.4%? Man I wish I could have a 3.4% tax rate

https://www.propublica.org/article/the-secret-irs-files-trove-of-never-before-seen-records-reveal-how-the-wealthiest-avoid-income-tax

Next time you see a school bus get on it

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Sarojh-M@reddit

Nothing I said contradicts anything you said

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Toast__Patrol@reddit

I dont see how a homeless person paying nothing and a billionaire paying something conflicts with that slogan

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tehringworm@reddit

Billionaires often pay little or nothing in taxes. They use equity in their companies as collateral for loans - which are not taxed as income. Estate taxes are avoided with Trusts and complex debt instruments.

But you are correct, homeless people are the real leeches here.

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Ptar_Migan@reddit

Next time you see a school bus get on it

Last time I tried that, it was a whole thing. I wouldn't recommend this. Get on the short bus, they'll just assume you have some deformity.

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thunderdragonite@reddit

Trvth nuke

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Mountainman_11@reddit

Tax those contributing the least

TAX THE HOMELESS

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TheOGFireman@reddit

9 times out of 10 when an american calls something socialist it mostly has fuck all to do with socialism

I wonder how anybody feels comfortable just typing shit they know nothing about

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Dronelisk@reddit

same with capitalism, when people criticize monopolies, oligarchies and centralized economies or coconut islands they equate it with capitalism or try to convince others this is the only logical conclusion of capitalism

except accumulation of power is a natural thing that happens everywhere under every economic system

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adamsworstnightmare@reddit

"Socialism is when the government does something I don't like"

-A good chunk of Americans.

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Klanks-gauntlets@reddit

nah even that is giving them credit. think about it this way, they would like universal health care but they don't because "it's socialism". so more accurately it would just be whenever the government does anything.

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NoPossibility4178@reddit

You could force everyone to stare at a map of federal contributions by state and by voting tendencies for 1 hour and most people still wouldn't understand what that means.

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AlcoreRain@reddit

Tell that to the average american.

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aqlr@reddit

this comment doesn't make any sense at all but you get a free pass for being anti ai

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AlcoreRain@reddit

It will make sense to you guys someday.

Also how do you know I am anti ai do you guys jump straight into the profile before commenting?

At least insult me a couple of times before researching

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aqlr@reddit

I just get curious and like checking the profiles of people who say silly things, there isn't much to it. No matter how silly something that someone says is, I can always find common ground with them on a more important issue. It comforts me to know that.

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AlcoreRain@reddit

To each it's own I guess, you seem somehow amicable so good for you.

Someday you will also get that some things we might find silly because we are the silly ones ourselves.

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aqlr@reddit

Thank you! But yeah my profile is hidden because I look at gay furry porn.

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AlcoreRain@reddit

Hahahhahah I like your attitude, have a good one mate!

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Cutefishes@reddit

wtfff ??? u just made up a stupid argument in ur head and you won against yourself? updooooooooott

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LooseButtPlug@reddit

Tell me you don't know what socialism is, without telling me you don't know what socialism is.

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AlcoreRain@reddit

Then tell us american citizen! Where are those commies under your bed?

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LooseButtPlug@reddit

?

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Booga-_-@reddit

Americans when they pay for foreign social programs while barely being able to no starve or die of thirst.

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AlcoreRain@reddit

"Foreign social programs" is bombing Gaza?

Who are the ones multiplying their fortunes? Look around man hahhah

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Booga-_-@reddit

Israel has universal healthcare funded by the us taxpayer.

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BanzaiKen@reddit

Free college as well.

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KneeDeepInTheDead@reddit

free circumcisions for all!

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AlcoreRain@reddit

"Thanks Trump!"

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zrock44@reddit

I'm already "donating" from paychecks and they can't seem to fix the debt with that so why would I believe they'd do it with the extra?

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Admirable-Swimmer-63@reddit

SCAM SCAM SCAM

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TheWayIChooseToLive@reddit

Only the most gullible people would donate.

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SplashingChicken@reddit

I'll donate some of the change between my couch cushions of the inact term limits in Congress.

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NoShit_94@reddit

Nonsense. Not one cent of that money will ever go towards reducing the debt.

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Tast3sLikePanda@reddit

It will go towards a debt, but the debt will be the loan for a new ferrari of a prolific lobbyist

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TheGreatTickleMoot@reddit

Lobbyists are the ones funneling money INTO government via clandestine back channels / clever bribery of government officials. Not the ones who get the cars.

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ThisUsernameis21Char@reddit

For sure they get fat checks from industries or companies they lobby on account of.

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TheGreatTickleMoot@reddit

Sure, yeah, they're well compensated, but the point is that the OP commenter clearly misunderstood where lobbyists sit within the structure of power corruption.

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HitIerWasWrong@reddit

Even if it did, they'd just think they have more room for more debt.

But big tech also needs $4 trillion in tax breaks and Israel needs more missiles.

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meIRLorMeOnReddit@reddit

I also need four trillion in tax breaks

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Responsible-Onion860@reddit

"Tax revenue is up by 15%. Time to increase the federal budget by 80%."

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NoPossibility4178@reddit

It would, but they'd immediately raise it again to attack random countries around the world.

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Nox_Stripes@reddit

Its fucking wild. The US has always been kinda Clownworld, but it has gotten exponentially worse.

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stop_talking_you@reddit

would you rather be taxed even more? like EU cucks

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UpbeatRegister@reddit

>tip the government

Isn't that called taxes?

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Round_Bullfrog_8218@reddit

You can gift the government money.

Its also how you know that the people that claim they should pay more taxes are full of shit because there's nothing stopping them from doing it.

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johnny_tifosi@reddit

Taxes are obligatory, but I guess so are tips if you are a mutt.

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Check_Me_Out-Boss@reddit

You've always been able to pay more than your taxed amount to the treasury...

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SonOfThorss@reddit

Is there a single benefit to this?

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Check_Me_Out-Boss@reddit

Patriotism or something lol

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untakenu@reddit

And do they give it back?

Whenever I've accidentally paid to much, I get it repaid to me. (UK)

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SonOfThorss@reddit

Is there a single benefit to this?

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Check_Me_Out-Boss@reddit

Why would they give it back if you purposely gifted money to the US treasury to reduce the public debt?

https://fiscal.treasury.gov/financing/gifts-to-government

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untakenu@reddit

Oh, I thought you were saying that you have always been able to give more than you owe, not necessarily as a "gift"

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Check_Me_Out-Boss@reddit

Anyone can pay the treasury money to reduce the government's debt lol

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Autumn_Fire@reddit

What are they doing with the other 25% of my paycheck every two weeks? Maybe we should figure that one out first, see if we can trim some of that fat off.

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Klanks-gauntlets@reddit

it's going to retired boomers and missiles to defend israel. everything else combined is miniscule

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jednoir@reddit

That goes to fund israel missiles and data centers

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Klanks-gauntlets@reddit

at this point i'd believe half of it goes directly into trump's pockets. america is run by shameless scammers at this point

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Hot-Supermarket-7359@reddit

I imagine if US citizens actually paid national debt, administration would just take new debt right away.

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Upbeat-Interview8554@reddit

Debt barely matters to the US since the world runs on dollars. Trump is doing his best to ruin that system tho. But it’ll take a serious shift to move away from the dollar globally like ww3

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MyDogIsDaBest@reddit

Who is the $39t owed to?

If it's for ultra wealthy american citizens, wouldn't it make a lot more sense to tell them to forgive the debts? Wouldn't that be the most American thing you could do if you actually cared about your country?

Or am I being too antisemitic.

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Ranjit-RedeemSarr@reddit

They should partner with mcdonalds and release a McDebt burger with all proceeds going to the national debt

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Stormywillow@reddit

Made with a sloppy, orange colored sauce that needs a pad on the bottom to keep from leaking. The McDump burger.

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johnny_tifosi@reddit

Please consider donating to keep Israeli healthcare free.

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Responsible-Onion860@reddit

If we don't give the government more money, then how will Lockheed Martin pay to lobby the government to buy more missiles so Israel can tell us where to blow up civilians?

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Judah_Earl@reddit

Who do they owe this debt too?

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Afraid-Exit2125@reddit

Our best ally

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jmlinden7@reddit

Bondholders

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brunudumal@reddit

http://www.savewalterwhite.com/

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someguy50@reddit

Can we each put $114k on our CC's then file for chapter 7 bankruptcy? I think I just solved the problem

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Ozymandias_1303@reddit

This administration is so fucking stupid I can't even be sure that this is fake.

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pwhite13@reddit

This program has been around since the 60's, and apparently has existed in other forms since the late 1800's. What is new is that they now accept Paypal and Venmo.

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jmlinden7@reddit

This isn't new, it's always existed

https://www.pay.gov/public/form/start/708094624

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Angel_OfSolitude@reddit

You've literally always been able to pay extra taxes.

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jmlinden7@reddit

Well no, you're supposed to report an accurate number on your tax return. Technically, reporting a higher tax owed on your tax return than reality is still tax fraud.

However, separate from that, you've always been able to donate extra to the IRS beyond what you owe. But this is considered a donation and not a tax.

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