What % do you guys get for a promotion?

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metaphorm@reddit

in this industry, you tend to get bigger pay raises by switching companies then by getting promoted in the same company

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This sub leans heavily towards tech hubs and cities where, yes, that would be a huge underpay. However that's around the national median for software engineering. You could definitely work for a company with a much higher salary, but those positions are extremely competitive these days.

Do familiarize yourself with levels.fyi and Pragmatic Engineer's "Trimodal nature of salaries in tech". Seriously, google those two.

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Tacos314@reddit

The issue is levels.fyi does not really cover MCOL areas, or give realistic results.

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FetaMight@reddit

It also feels like it leads people trio gamify their careers. This won't be a popular take, but winning at that game tends to make you an insufferable colleague.

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kayGrim@reddit

I work at a highly compensated company, not in tech. What this means is that every single tech person is so afraid of saying no to the business users about literally anything, that they just figure it out along the way. I'm talking the help desk was writing production code to handle business sensitive materials. Shortly before I joined there were monthly outages for the entire org. The project I was brought in to fix, literally needed to be rewritten from scratch it was impossible to save. It didn't have a single failure notification, but you know how often if failed? Every. Other. Day.

Shit can be insane

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Tacos314@reddit

That sounds bad, but I have seen it over and over, why fix something when support can fix it.

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SarmackaOpowiesc@reddit

I remember it being late 2010s and struggling to get out of 100k in the Midwest. Fresh out of school grads were making 50-60k. 120-130k was end of your career seniors.

It took moving to a HCOL area and some lucky breaks before my salary really exploded.

But my cost of living exploded as well. Really relative. If I can maintain my high salary for another decade - the move will definitely have been worth it. If I can't - probably will not have been.

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diablo1128@reddit

I got my first job in 2006 making 42.5K as a new grad at a private non-tech company in a MCOL area non-tech city creating safety critical medical devices, think dialysis machines. When I was promoted to Team Lead in 2016 I went from 82K to 95K. When I was let go in 2021 I was making 110K.

The only difference is I wasn't smart or lucky enough to break in to actual tech companies in HCOL areas to make the big bucks. At this point being a SWE is probably not even in the cards since nobody will hire me.

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thekwoka@reddit

It took moving to a HCOL area and some lucky breaks before my salary really exploded.

but then were you really ending with much more after the increase in COL?

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RedTuna777@reddit

My friend knows a friend working at apple making close to a million a year who has ROOMMATES in downtown SF. That's a choice. He's still making a lot, but landlords are making probably more than he is.

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ninetofivedev@reddit

Definite worth it for me. I went from saving 2k/month in 2019 to saving over 10k month today by moving from Nebraska to Texas.

Plus my bonus then was like 10k and now it’s closer to 100k

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alpacaMyToothbrush@reddit

i briefly considered moving off to SF, SEA or NYC after college, but I ultimately decided to stay and work in L/MCOL areas to stay close to friends and family. Would I have made more in the bay area? Yeah, if I'd had a career at FAANG, but I hit [lean] FI in my mid 30's and will be retiring in my mid 40's. Realistically, I've been working for health insurance more than money for the past few years. I've done well for myself all things considered.

I have no idea whether software development will continue being such a good career choice in the future. I feel like I caught the last chopper out of 'Nam by sheer accident

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chikamakaleyley@reddit

I feel like I caught the last chopper out of 'Nam by sheer accident

wait... this was like, a huge story right

or was it some other Ken Burns doc... googling now

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alpacaMyToothbrush@reddit

Google the evacuation Hanoi. Pretty tragic, honestly.

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alleycatbiker@reddit

That origin is exactly my trajectory, to the dot, except I didn't move out of the Midwest. Today I'm fully remote, happily raising a family, but HCOL is where the money is at

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ReikaKalseki@reddit

This sub leans heavily towards tech hubs and cities where, yes, that would be a huge underpay.

Not just that, but it seems like this subreddit has not escaped the widespread trend in all online CS spaces that considers "software developer" and "FAANG" as synonymous, when those companies, while very prolific, are hardly the place you will find the majority of, let alone all, software developers/architects/et cetera.

And I seriously doubt that software developers working in finance, education, healthcare, entertainment, or, as me, engineering, are making remotely near the insane salaries that people in FAANG are.

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RandomPantsAppear@reddit

I’m a senior backend engineer at a young startup (first hire). The work is completely remote and everyone is based in the Midwest.

I clear $200k/year, with 1% equity.

It’s still not near FAANG levels but definitely there is better paid work than most people are posting about here.

I dated a FAANG engineer for 8 years, and she got bonuses larger than my entire salary at the time ($160k).

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ReikaKalseki@reddit

200k/y for senior is much more like what I would expect, especially inside the US.

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Handle-Flaky@reddit

There’s just no way 6 yoe are making 60k a year, i dont know why you think thats right.

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ReikaKalseki@reddit

Not everyone is an american working in silicon valley.

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Ok_Fault_5684@reddit

Trimodal nature of salaries in tech: https://newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com/p/trimodal

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Distinct-Farmer-41@reddit

4% seems low for a senior role

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CharlesV_@reddit

Yeah it’s wild how much it varies. I often feel a little self conscious and concerned that I’m under paid when reading in this sub. By I checked that levels.fyi link and it’s pretty spot on.

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yerfdog1935@reddit

I live in Des Moines and increased my salary 71% working at the same company for 7 years. Part of that was a 17% increase for a promotion (on top of a little over 4% for the merit increase a few weeks before). Granted, I think I was drastically underpaid before.

Fall of 2018: $54002 as SE1

Spring of 2026: $92500 as SE2

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AcanthisittaKooky987@reddit

Yeah it's low start interviewing. I made 135k with 1.5 yoe as a non senior eng in 2018.

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GoodishCoder@reddit

You were likely in a higher cost of living area. It's not uncommon for a junior in a HCOL area to get paid more than a senior in a LCOL area.

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AcanthisittaKooky987@reddit

I was but I know there are companies that are fully remote and pay mid level engs well. Coinbase is a good example. 180k + 75k RSU, and senior jumps to 200k, 175k RSU annually. Comp is location adjusted but still very good. Eg Georgia seniors were getting 185k and the same amount of RSUs

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GoodishCoder@reddit

There's almost always someone that will pay more but that doesn't mean what you're paid isn't in line with the market

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AcanthisittaKooky987@reddit

That's true - coinbase pinned their comp at the 75th percentile and made market adjustments annually to stay there. Most companies paid less than them, but a good number paid more. It's not like they were paying at the 99th percentile

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GoodishCoder@reddit

There's a lot of room between market value and the 99th percentile. The fact they're paying in the 75th percentile proves they're paying above market value.

If you're just chasing the highest comp you can get the vast majority or companies aren't going to be right for you. But if you're just wanting to make sure you're paid fairly, you need to understand what the market value is for your role in your area and tie your expectations to that.

People on dev subs on reddit have a habit of thinking they're super underpaid because they don't make what devs at high paying companies make when more often than not, they're actually just being paid in line with their experience in their area.

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modeezy23@reddit (OP)

I’m gonna start applying. I really wanna stay 100% remote. It’s nice to just play some video games or do chores when things are slow. It’s hard to give up that freedom so I guess it might be worth that pay differential at Tom’s

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AcanthisittaKooky987@reddit

In some cases it's not worth it to chase the highest pay - but I think you'll find something that pats better and still offers the flexibility you have now. Even if you don't it never hurts to look

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DeterminedQuokka@reddit

Okay so for 100% remote and slow enough you have time to play video games. 130 is probably fully reasonable.

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aeroverra@reddit

for your salary, being 100% remote and actually having downtime. Id say you are on the higher end of the band.

Im 100% remote and its been years since it was "slow".

Also in consulting kinda.

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Vlookup_reddit@reddit

jfc why the downvotes.

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Roicker@reddit

It’s a “normal” promotion % but it doesn’t mean you are getting a fair deal. Use the title and exp to get more from another company if you are not happy there. The thing is, only by looking outside you will know what your market values your skill set at.

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bluetista1988@reddit

Amounts handed out for promotion depend on a large number of factors that vary by company. They will look at numerous things, including:

Equity grants
Bonus structure changes
Where your salary falls inside the pay band
etc

You will almost always earn more seeking a higher title elsewhere than you will seeking a higher title internally.

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BLUUUEink@reddit

That sounds about right. Unless you’re killing it and wanna push into the high-end fintech / FAANG / AI unicorn startups, that’s gonna be what you’re at for a full remote. Otherwise you could look to a tech hub in-person like SF, Silicon Valley, NYC, etc to push higher.

Especially with 5 YOE in this market, you’re in a good spot. I doubt you can get a significant bump at your current company based on that info. Keep performing and if you wanna get paid more, you can certainly leverage your new title to bump your salary with a new company. Congrats!

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Cahnis@reddit

I work for a consulting firm and I get something like 20K? Its wild living in a third world country and reading about your salaries

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Umbilic@reddit

Wait until you see their rents

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Cahnis@reddit

I would trade places any day of the week.

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modeezy23@reddit (OP)

How much is your rent?

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Cahnis@reddit

0, I live with my folks and I can't afford it

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roger_ducky@reddit

Consulting firms are big on titles but not necessarily high paying. But, this really depends on the salary bands.

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chaitanyathengdi@reddit

not necessarily high paying

That's putting it politely. They pay like crap.

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daguito81@reddit

The whole modern tech consulting is kind of screwed. It used to be that you would need experts for a specific thing. Maybe an Oracle expert to solve some really weird shit. You would pay out the nose for a few weeks for this person. But the consulting firm would reuse them constantly so they could charge you the equivalent of 250k a year (simplifying numbers for the sale of the comment) because you would only pay 1/26th of that and “it’s fine”. And they could pay him 150k and keep 100k.

The problem is now they’re not consulting as “experts” for a specific problem but as a “I’m too lazy to do my headhunting” or “I don’t want to deal with this legal workforce shit”

So they will give you a person for the entire year. They can’t charge 250k as it’s some random front end guy.

And still need their cut. So they end up selling you juniors masked as seniors or they must pay like crap. Else you just hire them directly

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sharpcoder29@reddit

And they outsource the Jrs to low pay countries

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chaitanyathengdi@reddit

All those middle managers need to justify their pay.

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chikamakaleyley@reddit

let's not forget about the... 'benefits'

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roger_ducky@reddit

Their pay used to be fairly high, at least for a first job. Tech companies just outstripped them later on because they could afford to. Wasn’t sure if they’re still doing the same amount as before, or if they’re raised their wages some.

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suck_at_coding@reddit

A promotion? What’s that? 15 years and I’ve never gotten one, always had to move shops. Done it with startups and companies I’ve stayed at for 3+ years (we swear, the paperwork’s been started! Oh wait we lost the contract never mind)

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GoodishCoder@reddit

Whether or not that's low depends on location. That could be perfectly in line with a senior engineer where you are. 3-4% is pretty standard for annual raises is pretty standard.

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modeezy23@reddit (OP)

My annual raise was 3%. Promotion was 4%

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gigastack@reddit

I think this is the key factor. A 3% annual raise does not seem abnormal to me. But a promotion is typically much larger than the annual raise, otherwise what's the point? Having said that, many companies index more on stock than cash. But I would expect more like an 8-10% increase in total compensation for a promotion.

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heelek@reddit

Dont you feel motivated?

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chikamakaleyley@reddit

i wonder if... the firm has bands and before your promo to senior you were at the top end of the mid band

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GoodishCoder@reddit

That could put you perfectly in line with where you should be in your area or it could be low. In my area at 5yoe I was was a mid making $80k and that was in line with what everyone in the area was making at the same level. When I became a senior I was making like $143k and that was considered high.

You have to look at comps in your area to get a feel for where you should be. Someone living in the Bay area is going to tell you, you're wildly underpaid, someone living in a LCOL area is going to tell you you're overpaid, but there's no way for anyone to really know your situation.

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Careful-Nothing-2432@reddit

I think it’s really hard to answer these questions without context.

It depends on your leverage. Could you get more money in a comparable situation? Any other companies in the area that you’d be willing to jump to that would give you more?

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AbbreviationsFar4wh@reddit

Promo to senior was 16%. bonus went from 10 to 15%. My regular annual raises have never been under 5% over the past 5yrs

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WildWinkWeb@reddit

Internally, a promotion can be probably max 10%. Jumping to another company for a similar job can be 30%.

The earlier you learn that paying you what you’re worth is the last thing on your current manager’s mind, the more you’ll make.

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tr14l@reddit

3-5% for basic merit increase. 1-2% for inflation. Not both. So basically everyone gets 1-2%. If you're good they give you a second scrap.

Glue people can get 7-9% based on leverage.

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savinger@reddit

There’s no money in consulting.

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Big_Arrival_626@reddit

Where is the money outside of tech companies?

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rawmeniscus@reddit

Quant firms

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FishGiant@reddit

There are lots of different things that determine your salary anf pay increase such as location, skillset, impact, industry, and employer. OP if you give some details then we can give you a better answer.

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Just-Ad3485@reddit

5yoe making more less than 130k (CAD) is not low in my neck of the woods.

I have brilliant seniors on my team making $120k with 15-20yrs experience

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The-Fox-Says@reddit

Jesus that’s like entry level pay convert to USD for any fortune 500 company

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yon_@reddit

0_o 13 YOE, making $115 CAD, based in Vancouver, working for a company registered in Ontario and HQ’d in the UK.

Got a 2.5% raise this year and I think the same last year too

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Tacos314@reddit

Ouch

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yon_@reddit

Yeahhhhhhh there is a few reasons I am looking for jobs at the moment

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Full-Chapter-7055@reddit

Depends on location. On Levels, the median TC in Toronto for seniors is 172k and 194k for Vancouver. It doesn’t have to be FAANG, there’s a lot of startups in SF and NYC that hire remotely in Canada.

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biosc1@reddit

Canada has always been underpaid compared to our US counterparts going back as long as I've been in the industry (2001ish).

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throwaway09234023322@reddit

Your raises are low as fuxk. I had this happen when I got promoted a while back, so probably not that abnormal.

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whyamisogloopy@reddit

130K of what and where? £130K for only 5 years of experience would be plenty.

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Andrea_Barghigiani@reddit

4% for a senior promotion is rough. But the real question is: how long did you wait for it?

If this isn't tied to a yearly adjustment (some countries, like Sweden, bump payroll by ~2% annually regardless), and you've been waiting for a promotion cycle that only comes once a year or longer, that 4% needs to cover a lot of ground.

Most engineers go into promotion conversations with a list of what they shipped. "I built X, I shipped Y, I led Z." But management doesn't promote based on output. They promote based on measured impact.

When was the last time you framed a contribution like "Reduced deployment time by 40%, saving the team ~6 hrs/week, by building an automated CI pipeline" vs just "Built CI pipeline"?

The first one gives your manager ammunition to fight for you in calibration. The second one gets a "nice work" and nothing else.

I'm not saying this to kick you while you're down. But if you're planning to push back or shop around, make sure you're walking in with impact bullets, not task lists.

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jqVgawJG@reddit

You're on 130k? And complaining? ☠️

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Lanky-Ad4698@reddit

Its honestly not a lot for software engineering. Juniors at big tech make like $180k minimum lol, I'm not at big tech and also have a terrible salary

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jqVgawJG@reddit

I'm with a multi billion multinational and on less than half of that 😭

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Lanky-Ad4698@reddit

Are you even local in the aid? It’s not solely about company size. It has to be a big company + tech core product = big tech (highest salary)

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jqVgawJG@reddit

No I'm in Europe. American owned company though

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Illustrious-Part-746@reddit

what's the average raise percentage others at your firm are getting?

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a-priori@reddit

Take the title, parlay it into a raise at the next place.

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Fakeos@reddit

Best thing to do

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1_4_1_5_9_2_6_5@reddit

5 yoe here, making less than 30k USD. You Americans love to complain about your huge salaries

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Lanky-Ad4698@reddit

bruh your COL is probably pennies, get out of here. Salary doesn't mean anything if you don't take into account COL

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Necessary-milkyway@reddit

My last two promotions i got 30plus percentage

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high_throughput@reddit

Around 30%, but both times were autopromo

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Devboe@reddit

4% is low for a promotion no matter what your cost of living or salary is in my opinion.

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sandman3240@reddit

4% is generous these days. I think 3% is standard. But ultimately inflation is more than eating the raise.

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Devboe@reddit

OP is talking about a promotion, not a merit raise. 4% is good for a merit increase.

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mistaekNot@reddit

3% is the cost of living adjustment, not a pay raise and defo not promotion raise

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Single_Treat997@reddit

not sure i agree with that part

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Coder-Cat@reddit

The “Senior” title only applies to your current company. You’re not really considered a Senior SWE in the industry if you don’t have, at least, 10 years of experience or a higher degree.

You’re still “mid level” and $130k is fairly decent for that.

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Big_Arrival_626@reddit

Nah it really depends. I have friends at FAANG that are able to get interviews as seniors at pretty much any company, despite only having 2-3 YOE

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brstra@reddit

I got 7%, also +50% for performance bonus base, and some extra equity.

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max123246@reddit

I got 14% when I went from L1 to L2. Based on levels.fyi, L2-L3 is similar for my base increase, with a lot more in RSUs. 3-5% is what I get just for existing each year

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30thnight@reddit

3-4% is the standard inflation / cost of living bump

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Tiny_Quarter_6401@reddit

is that 4% raise typical for your firm

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HatesBeingThatGuy@reddit

I've been regularly getting 25% a year. I'm also consistently getting promoted or top tier in my bands in big tech. At this rate I will be clearing senior PE in 5 years.

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Major-Examination941@reddit

I got two promos at my company

L3 (190k) -> L4 (368k) -> L5 (530k) 5yoe

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GucciTrash@reddit

I work at a standard Fortune 500. Our promotionas target an 8% raise - with some flex in either direction for internal equity and total comp. I've had several members of my team only get 3% with promotions.

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adhd6345@reddit

Is that total compensation?

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modeezy23@reddit (OP)

Total comp is about 135k

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WhackyWhale1@reddit

Brother I get paid about 113k almost 4 years of experience in a MCOL, shit sucks especially when I am a senior SWE and I know I could be doing work in a HCOL being paid much more. The salary we get paid I guess is normal, but that is what sucks and that is why Im trying to relocate tbh.

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adhd6345@reddit

Just to be clear… this includes like any annual bonuses?

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modeezy23@reddit (OP)

Yes I don’t even get bonuses. I’ve gotten one bonus so far - if you can even call it that. It was $200

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adhd6345@reddit

I think that’s a bit low then, relatively speaking.

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HRApprovedUsername@reddit

I don’t get promoted :(

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MrMichaelJames@reddit

5 years and making 130k? You are fine. 5 years is not a senior. Don’t care what title inflation your company says. Come back in 10 years.

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Ok-Care-1777@reddit

reminds me of when i got a 2% raise after doing extra projects for months

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false79@reddit

If its less than inflation, ngl I'm insulted.

Serious consideration that I can find a better role, higher pay somewhere else.

This approach has paid off handsomely over the decades.

If you're complacent, same job, same place, not beating inflation, you are losing money in the long run.

The exception to this is if you're already making insane bank.

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roger_ducky@reddit

Well, I looked at an inflation calculator.

Apparently I’ve stayed pretty level compared to my starting salary if I factor in inflation for my 20ish, almost 30 years career. This is with a 4x jump in absolute dollar amount.

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Teh_Original@reddit

Well also, if you are just getting inflation raises, is your additional experience not worth anything?

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BoBoBearDev@reddit

Actually it took me more than that many years to get to that salaries. The good is, my employer is one of the most stable one to retain employment. Unless we are doing something really fucked up, the employment is stable and the culture isn't so competitive.

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Due_Survey_846@reddit

Where do you work? Asking for a friend ;)

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Any_Fan2776@reddit

try organizing your workspace with cable clips to reduce clutter

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MichelangeloJordan@reddit

That seems fair depending on your COL. Look up your region on levels.fyi and see what real comps are based on where you’re at.

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crumpet-lives@reddit

0% unless I switch jobs lol. Got the promotion to Staff with no increase or bonus, but it did officially list my title as staff on my resume for interviewing

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loosed-moose@reddit

I got a weak-ass 6% from senior to staff this year

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AlacrityMC@reddit

Midwest, 6 yoe, bump to se3 at unicorn (IPO this year) was 10%. went from 127 to 139. yearly rases past 3 years prior have been 5-8%/ye as se2. I'm upper limit since I took a 5k cut when I left prior company as a "senior" only having 2 yoe.

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mechkbfan@reddit

Best to interview elsewhere and see what the market pays

But yes, 3-5% on average internally each year. 10% or more when applying elsewhere

Of course once you get to the upper range then you need to move into management, architecture or specialisation

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ZukowskiHardware@reddit

Never got one. I’ve only moved up by changing jobs. Usually the jump is at least 20%

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notjim@reddit

FWIW, I have found levels.fyi pretty accurate. I would look there to get an idea of what you could make elsewhere. Everyone is going to say you have to sacrifice WLB to make more money, but that is not my experience at all. It is a bit of a crapshoot though.

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throwaway_0x90@reddit

Meh, context dependent on location & cost of living.

Also, because of RSUs I can't even correctly calculate my income anymore. All I know is that my family can eat, buy clothing and have fun summer vacations without worrying about expenses.

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DeterminedQuokka@reddit

My raise was like 3.9% but it was a band graded raise so it varies by person.

130 could be reasonable for remote. Depends on a lot of factors. But 150-180 is not out of range for a new senior in nyc. So 130 as the bottom of the band remote doesn’t feel ridiculous.

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Moorspam@reddit

You don't get into high pay unless you are working for a tech based company. Non tech based company pay for SWE is about at that margin. Example would be Lockheed Martin / Chase Bank paying seniors 120k-125k

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vinny_twoshoes@reddit

4% is about normal for a performance raise in my experience, but it's very low considering you were promoted. the title bump normally comes with a jump up to the next salary band.

your pay is alright, but you could make more (potentially much more). i was making less than you at 5 YOE.

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Dangerous-Sale3243@reddit

It’s hard to compare titles across companies unless they are in the same space. Ive been a staff engineer at a couple major corps but was on par with non-senior devs at FAANG.

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arsenal11385@reddit

In my experience 5% is a minimum.

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demosthenesss@reddit

Depends a fair bit on the type of company you work for - our new grads make a lot more than 130k, so here? It'd be pretty bad.

But 130k is also much more than a lot of other companies pay.

So it's hard to really definitively answer without considering the type of company.

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QuitTypical3210@reddit

You’re in MCOL and likely don’t work at the tech giants so it’s normal.

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Tacos314@reddit

That is the normal rate for a MCOL area, especially with only 5 YoE, it's kind of a bit high.

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Crim91@reddit

Promotions are usually capped at ~15%,

And yes, the biggest bumps you'll get come from leaving and finding a new job elsewhere. If you're looking to maximize money, minimize loyalty.

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sparklikemind@reddit

you're fully remote, why do you think they would ever allow that except to underpay you lol

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past3eat3r@reddit

Went from 86 to 109 for sr level

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General-Belgrano@reddit

You guys are getting promoted?

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CubicleHermit@reddit

At my last gig, promo was to the base of the new band, or a 5% minimum if 5% put you over the next band.

"Base of the new band" for "rest of the US remote" would have been about $150k (~$190k in home market VHCOL area), and we were in the broader bigtech-but-not-FANG space. I don't know how comparable big consulting firms are to that, but if they're comparable, that's a bit low.

Plus we have a bonus, and before SaaSpocalypse, a meaningful amount of equity (not so much now.)

As others have said, have a look at levels.fyi and you can always interview. Keep in mind that the market is adjusting, and 5 years of experience and a recent promotion will not be enough to necessarily get you into other companies as senior.

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chikamakaleyley@reddit

when its a big company, 3% is pretty standard for like... a decent review/standard pay bump. 6% is generally the 'high' given for like... 'exceeds expectations'

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suprjaybrd@reddit

its all relative to band ranges. but salary doesnt necessarily need to jump much. most tech roles look at TC also not just salary.

i also wouldn't anchor or compare based on title. your probably mid level vs a faang swe role

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DankMagician2500@reddit

Welcome to capitalism

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solidiquis1@reddit

That seems pretty low