Told to go to a weight station and ask for a level 3 inspection
Posted by Ancient_Cucumber2573@reddit | Truckers | View on Reddit | 36 comments
So basically my company told me to stop and all open weight station even if prepass gives a green light and ask for a level 3 until I get it going from Texas to New York truck has 400k miles on trailer is new which weigh station would be best taking i30 to I440 to I40 to i55 to i57 to i70 to I270 to i71 to i271 to i90
sam367537@reddit
No weight station is dumb to do an inspection if you ask them directly , they know that all your equipment is in order and you are fully prepared from logs to paperwork . Drive like you cannot drive normally and they will actually pull you for an inspection
Ancient_Cucumber2573@reddit (OP)
lol u were right I got inspected I asked the one in Texas they denied me then I went into Arkansas the one on i40 and parked decided not to ask and I tried exiting thru the do no enter way and a guy came out cussing at me and asked me to bring my trucks paperwork bol and cdls cause I was getting inspectedđ passed it
sk8zero0619@reddit
Get it in the state you need the escort, or a surrounding state. You'll have to wait for an appointment, usually around four hours, up to 24 hours, before theyll do it. Expect to be sitting at a weigh station for a day or two. I sat in Texas for 3 days got in a nice 34 at a hotel. Dropped a 95000 lb generator schnabel at the appointment place and bobtailed to a Hilton with a hot tub, got some beer, barbecue, and no bitches. Binged firefly for a few
Whitehoneybun666@reddit
I personally wouldnât Iâd stop at 1 scale per state if I get pulled in I get pulled in but Iâm not asking for a inspection
JOliverScott@reddit
The company's FMCSA BASIC score is probably in the toilet and they're trying to get some clean inspections on their record to offset the negativity. It might help a little but the scores are weighted over 24 months and cover a range of categories so more clean inspections alone won't really help if the company's score is awful in other categories like HOS or Unsafe Driving. Like a stellar score in one category doesn't negate a poor score in another category. And since the scores a weighted, it's likely the scores are poor in numerous categories - it's unusual that a company excels in one category but sucks in another - so pleasing for inspections doesn't address other poor scores and will barely move the needle without equally intentional improvements in the other poor categories.Â
Ancient_Cucumber2573@reddit (OP)
This is it we had 2 dui recently one guy crashed totaled truck and trailer other was caught before shit went south lots of unsafe driving idiots on phones ny does not play with this and doing 75 mph on i90 and i70 construction zones good company no cameras at all and 75 mph trucks but boss man said he is having issues booking loads and all they need is a clean level 3 for everything to be good again
KilljoyTheTrucker@reddit
This just sounds like they want you guys running through inspections so that you're forced to keep shit clean or risk a cop catching you fucking up while your out of the immediate ability for your managers to check on you guys.
tc6x6@reddit
In that case, you're not likely to get a green light on the PrePass anytime soon. I think you'll likely be getting inspected without having to ask.
The fact that they've got all this BS on their record proves that they aren't a good company.
LividImagination5925@reddit
for a company that don't put cameras on their trucks and govern their trucks at 75 then sh!t that's a good company for most drivers. (unless the pay sux)
JOliverScott@reddit
That sounds completely inaccurate. All those things mentioned are tanking the Safe Driving score so clean inspections aren't going to fix that.Â
Arnhildr-Fang@reddit
Correction...csa points are weighteover 36. 0-12mo, 3x value. 12-24, 2x value, 24-36, 1x value. Then at 36+ mo the record still exists but has a weight modifier of 0x
JOliverScott@reddit
You are correct. Thanks for the correction.Â
Arnhildr-Fang@reddit
Np
I will note states have seperate scores distinctly tied to drivers & different measures. AL does have a time frame of 24mo for all AL drivers (commercial or not), but they remain at 1x value until 24mo, & become 0x at 24+...worth noting though its a 12pt limit & its a revoked licence at 12+pts
Ancient_Cucumber2573@reddit (OP)
Okay so head outing here is what they told me cause I said whatâs the point of a clean inspection they said they started a new eld and there past is gone so they want to start with a clean level 3
Arnhildr-Fang@reddit
0.o ...a new ELD changes nothing. If a driver gets pulled over for being in the left lane when signs say "no trucks left lane", that's considered failure to obey traffic control device. First year will be worth 15pts, 2nd 10, & 3rd 5. These scores are tied to the drivers & companies directly to assess their liability risk. A new ELD device does not alter a company's csa score, the only way to really do so is the illegal practice of "shadow companies", effectively being the same exact company with the same exact same score, but using a new name & DOT# to illegally pose as a new clean slate company...Super Ego is very well known for that...
IllustriousLeek39@reddit
Most stations require an appointment for a voluntary inspection. I get 8 or so level 1 inspections. Some states require a recent level 1 before you can have a police escort so I get them often.
11-110011@reddit
Who requires a recent level 1 before you can have police? Any states that require police escorts for oversized loads wonât accept another states Level 1, they would do it themselves.
pianodude01@reddit
Some of the new England states will accept NY's unofficially because the ny superload inspection is the strictest in the country. Ive rolled into CT plenty of times and theyll just ask to see the NY and then skip the inspection
unloader86@reddit
It's called a weigh station or port of entry.
Up there with "CDLs" in being one of my biggest pet peeves.
jmzstl@reddit
Hey at least he didnât call it a way station.
Dangerous_Ingenuity1@reddit
What about a whey station? I kid of course, but sometimes I haul a load of 20,000liters of whey.
Mindes13@reddit
Crazy to admit that in an open forum, you'll have gym bros scooping your load into their workout drinks
Spare-Good-5372@reddit
Get these sick gains, bro
tc6x6@reddit
Or a gĂźey station.
ComprehensiveNail416@reddit
If youâre comfortable that everything is perfect, just make sure youâre paid for it
Dezzolve@reddit
I promise you a DOT officer can always find something they can cite you for.
My buddyâs company was offering $150 for a clean level 1 inspection, so he had the idea of stopping by weigh stations whenever he had some extra time on his loads and asking DOT officers to perform one.
DOT officers know about the inspection bonuses companies are offering now, and over the course of about two months he had stopped at about a dozen weigh stations and volunteered himself for an inspection to no avail. They wouldnât inspect him đ
Until finally one DOT Officer agreed.
Now my friendâs truck was virtually brand new, less than 100k miles on it, and he had his companies shop go over everything along with pre tripping thoroughly himself before enacting his plan. The trailer he had at the time was in really good condition too so he thought he was in the clear, especially since he was volunteering the expectation was the DOT officer would go easy on him anyways.
He ended up getting like 3-4 different citations for the most off the wall violations buried deep in the FMCSA rule book. I fairly positive one of the mud flaps on the trailer was hanging like 0.25in closer to the ground than itâs âallowedâ to be. All violations like that.
He ended up not getting his inspection bonus, and actually even lost his safety bonus and got written up đ
I promise you that if you ask for an inspection, they will find violations.
JOliverScott@reddit
My company thought I was asking for inspections for the bonus $ because I got pulled in 4x in a year with a carrier who already had a stellar CSA score but it was 2022-23 and after being closed for like 2 years for COVID they were ramping up inspections all around in order that the CSA scores didn't lapse into irrelevance with no historical data. I got clean inspections and my bonus all four times and propositioned once ( that's a weird story in itself).
dewky@reddit
I won't do on demand inspections. Companies will do it when they know their stuff is in order to pad their safety score if they're getting in trouble. It defeats the purpose of inspections in the first place.
anxious_polarbear@reddit
Indeed. It's like asking for a drug test so you can go smoke weed afterwards. Defeats the purpose of it being random.
jqmallah@reddit
If dispatch wants a clean Level 3, I would not try to pick a station by guessing along the route. Call safety and make them put the exact plan in writing first. Rolling into random open scales asking for an inspection can go sideways fast if paperwork, logs, medical card, permits, and equipment are not all tight.
Ancient_Cucumber2573@reddit (OP)
The plan they gave me was to get to the yard take the truck to a mechanic shop ask them to check everything head to toe for anything they checked my logs and once the mechanics give a green light find a blue beacon wash the truck spotless then hit every open weigh station along the way
JOliverScott@reddit
Anything to avoid addressing the actual problem which is hiring yahoos who are putting the entire company's future in jeopardy.Â
acs0311@reddit
Weigh stations are not allowed to do voluntary inspections. You might find a couple that will ignore the federal mandate just because they can, but the vast majority will not. https://www.cnsprotects.com/news/no-more-voluntary-dot-inspections/
Chemical-Character79@reddit
If you're going to be paid for each passing inspection, then it may be worth your time. If not I wouldn't don't do it.
Exciting-Car-3516@reddit
Donât waste time. Why would you volunteer?
llkey2@reddit
Do you have that in writing or just a verbal ask.
If not in writing and no documentation. Just go deliver your load. F that