[Armor] Highcom 4s17m set of two large $485

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Grand_Bison_2650@reddit

I got two sets of these.Chase Tactical runs great discount coupons a few times a year so you can grab a set for under $400 total.

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NeverBuyingVWAgain@reddit

Gundeals seems like 1/3 deals, 2/3 some random company trying to weasel out an above average price 🤣

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glyphosate_enjoyer@reddit

Plates are largely unnecessary and probably the biggest larp item. Buy soft armor if you actually think you'll need it.

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Why would I buy soft armor that completely surrounds my most vulnerable parts, for threats Im more likely to encounter, when I can buy front and back plates and no side armor and pretend Im Delta Force?

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jrhooo@reddit

Said above, personal opinion, but if youre bothering to worry about body armor at all, and you’re thinking soft armor but not plates,

You’re really underestimating the odds of running into a rifle.

Last looss google i tried estimated 50%ish of homes had a gun, 13% had a rifle, so more than 1/5 of gun owning homes had a rifle.

Meaning yeah, pistols are way more likely, but 1 in 5 is nothing to ignore IMO.

Put another way, if you live in a state where deer hunting exists (literally all of them) would you settle for armor than can’t stand up to a bass pro bargin shelf deer rifle?

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iHadou@reddit

Are y'all breaking into peoples homes?

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jrhooo@reddit

More than likely barricading yourself into your own home, if some kind of serious, city wide civil unrest happens (as one hypothetical example)

Maybe far fetched, but lets be real, for most non security professional people, needing armor at all is far fetched.

The average person is NOT actually thinking to strap up in soft armor on a day to day, so the premise that they’d be bothering to reach for it at all it some (probably pretty rare/unlikely) specific scenario.

And rare or not, if they’re going to bother shopping for that scenario at all, might as well go the more effective route then

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MinnesotaDan@reddit

FbI UCR for 2019 lists approximately 10,000 firearm murders. 364 of those were a rifle.

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jrhooo@reddit

True, but that stat is somewhat without context.

All firearms murders overall

Vs

Whatever hypothetical scenario is causing someone even to reach for their armor set up

That’s two pretty different situations, and we’re really thinking about the second one here.

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1rubyglass@reddit

Who said the two are mutually exclusive? Ever heard of an IOTV?

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Wu_tang_dan@reddit

The guy above me.

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cannabination@reddit

I don't think most people are buying plates for events they're likely to encounter every day.

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1rubyglass@reddit

"I dont need it therefore nobody else does"

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glyphosate_enjoyer@reddit

Lotta people who buy expensive paperweights for their guts to bulge out of them. I have SAPIs. There's not really a reason for plates. Most shootings in this country aren't with .30-06 AP. Most are with pistol calibers. Plates are overwhelmingly for the larp.

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YouTubeSeanWick@reddit

Yea well if SHTF rifle rounds will be a threat

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1rubyglass@reddit

Lotta people who buy expensive paperweights for their guts to bulge out of them.

Very true

I have SAPIs

OK?

There's not really a reason for plates.

Yes, there are. They stop bullets

Most shootings in this country aren't with .30-06 AP. Most are with pistol calibers.

And the overwhelming number of shootings are gang related in cities. Just because YOU don't need them doesn't mean nobody does. There are a high number of professionals military and otherwise that buy their own plates.

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glyphosate_enjoyer@reddit

Your experience may differ, but many units do not allow you to wear your own plates because joe snuffy would wear AR500. I am a professional. And it's a larp! I just really don't think for recreational shooters there is really a need over ammo, guns, mags - this is really an expensive item with limited utility.

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1rubyglass@reddit

many units do not allow you to wear your own plates

In my unit, and many conventional units this is correct. Unconventional units and paramilitary are big and growing.

I just really don't think for recreational shooters there is really a need over ammo, guns, mags

Typically, you are correct

this is really an expensive item with limited utility.

For you it is. For others this cost less than a night out. What I'm getting at is that your life is not representative of everybody else's life. Let people LARP, and let Blackwater 2.0 kit up some more of their guys for cheap.

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glyphosate_enjoyer@reddit

Well put and I understand your perspective. I stand by my initial point, that soft armor > plates in 99% of scenarios. I agree to let the guys larp. I am sending up NSNs next week for cryes & magpul furniture next week... I too am a larper

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NotAurelStein@reddit

Can you explain why soft armor is better than level 4 plates? Asking as a combat vet who has seen softs fail, and level 4 succeed.

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shanep35@reddit

Can’t be explained. Just some dude who drank the koolaid with no science to back it up. Just thoughts and opinions.

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jrhooo@reddit

The average non-duty user who buys either is buying some just in case “shtf” prepper kit shit anyways. They’re not buying soft armor to actually wear anywhere on a daily.

Not calling that right or wrong. People want to “what if” stock whatever in their closet they want, that’s fine.

But if someone is going to buy armor just to “i dunno what if?” Then IMO IV > soft all day long.

Any hypothetical civil disorder or whatever other bs would actually motivate someone to vest up in the moment, probably best to have armor that can stand up to the most popular version of “dad’s deer rifle” in half the closets in your town

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Mr_JS@reddit

Plenty of PMCs allow people to use their own plates, or even require you to bring your own gear depending on the contract. You're talking out of your ass.

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A_Squid_A_Dog@reddit

Fed post

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JohnnyBoy11@reddit

What's wrong with larping???

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glyphosate_enjoyer@reddit

There's nothing wrong with larping, but there is something wrong with lying to yourself that you need plates.

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gfx260@reddit

I be larpin too, but when the day comes that you have reasons to want plates, you’re not going to be ordering them to your door like you can today

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Panthean@reddit

Protecting your vitals is for chumps, huh?

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Pickle_riiickkk@reddit

Wasn't this the company that failed an NIJ audit a few years ago?

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RabidSasquatch0@reddit

Not the most well versed in this space, so someone else might know better.

You might be thinking of RMA 1155's (these had their cert pulled a couple years back).

The only Highcom drama I know is when they released Ukraine contract overrun plates (4sas4) that did not have drop protection. This caught some flak for not meeting NIJ101.06 spec (though it was never marketed as being such, guess there were some assumptions and/or dealer confusion).

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