Will i really see a performance boost with a new motherboard?
Posted by uk123456789101112@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 32 comments
I have a Prime Z390-P motherboard, i know it is not quite meeting the needs of my other parts and was wondering if i should upgrade it.
I have a 5070ti, 2 PCIe4 SSDs, 64GB DDR4 ram, Intel i9-9900KF CPU which i feel are all being let down by the motherboard. Would upgrading the motherboard be a good step or a marginal one?
Playing at 4K at 120fps when DLSS allows. Reason for thinking about a change is games have become slow to load textures, assassins creed shadows needs a couple minutes for the grass to catch up!
Beneficial-Ranger238@reddit
Better power stages can let you push clocks farther but you’ll likely see zero difference, and in fact, without tweaking will probably see a slight loss because asus uses very aggressive settings.
I swapped from an asus prime z790 to an msi tomahawk z790. It did not perform better out of the box, but I have since exceeded the numbers the asus provided.
I knew it was a sidegrade going into it, but I did it for the better power delivery & didn’t expect any performance, I was hoping for a potential longevity increase by making sure my power hungry little monster got all it needed.
It is a royal pita to do. If you do decide to do it without a fresh install,make sure you have a phone you can tether or usb WiFi, otherwise recovery is impossible because you won’t even have an Ethernet driver.
Unicorn_puke@reddit
What cpu do you use that you found improvement from switching boards? Just curious because I have a z790 tomahawk and i5 14600k. I settled on that mobo for the features to cost compared to a lot of the other z790 boards a few years ago
Beneficial-Ranger238@reddit
It wasn’t that the board made improvements, it’s that I tuned it after putting the board in.
It’s a 12900k
Unicorn_puke@reddit
Ah fair enough. Gave it more headroom?
Beneficial-Ranger238@reddit
I just never tried any tuning with the asus board.
VersaceUpholstery@reddit
No
My guess is your SSD is almost full? Not following the 10-20% rule which is probably killing ssd performance
uk123456789101112@reddit (OP)
I have not heard of this thank you, can you expand on it please?
RumbleTheCassette@reddit
Basically there is a recommendation to not fill an SSD above around 90% capacity. The exact percentage varies but they function better by having some spare space. I believe larger drives can be filled to a higher percentage before slow down would occur.
VersaceUpholstery@reddit
TLC drives specifically also deal better with the performance hit and can be pushed a little bit more in terms of being filled up
Diedead666@reddit
I got hit with this on my laptop, turned out some system file got to 90 gigs, couldn't get into safe mode cuss of bit locker, I only use it to watch streams so reformatteding it wasn't a issue but damn it's Soo much faster now lol
ecktt@reddit
At 4K resolution, there should be no problem.
With CPU-intensive loads, the 5+4 phase VRM layout will not keep up. Best case, the CPU throttles. Worst case, a VRM burns down.
Very, very marginal.
uk123456789101112@reddit (OP)
Thank you, reinstalling windows was going to be by first step before buying anything, however saving this so I dont have to search again 😀
MagicPistol@reddit
What gave you the idea that your motherboard is slowing down your PC?
Motherboard is like the least important part when it comes to performance. As long as you get a reliable motherboard with good vrms that can handle your CPU, there is really no reason to upgrade your motherboard unless you're upgrading CPU too.
uk123456789101112@reddit (OP)
Well its basically down to stats, memory running at half speed ( i do not need 64gb, I was being greedy). GPU PCIe may be holding the card back from full potential?
RumbleTheCassette@reddit
This is generally one of the absolute least cost effective method to try and improve a PCs performance.
uk123456789101112@reddit (OP)
Hence why its the last thing on my list 😀
Errorr404@reddit
no
Errorr404@reddit
DDU(Display Driver Uninstaller) drivers, delete shader cache, check VRM temps, check CPU and GPU temps and report back. You can use and app called HWiNFO 64 to log temps and then check average and max after gaming for 30mins or so.
uk123456789101112@reddit (OP)
Thank you. Already DDU on every new driver and had both deleted shader caches and uninstalked with Iobit unninstaller, to get rid of hidden files and reinstalled on the other SSD. I use MSI and CPU is never 100%. Only game to go above 70C is Star Wars Outlaws. However this game never used to exceed 65C and ACSadows never used to have this issue.
Errorr404@reddit
also you can try deleting game shader cache usually found in
Documents/AC Shadows/folder.bblzd_2@reddit
If you mean a new motherboard so you can upgrade the CPU that will definetly help performance.
Just the motherboard? Pointless side grade.
cheeseypoofs85@reddit
High end motherboards are literally the biggest waste of $ when building a pc. 99% of people will get all the performance out of a mid tier mobo. Z series and X series are only beneficial to XOCers
SilentBobVG@reddit
Literally 0 difference
AntMiserable6610@reddit
If you want boosted performance, get a good z790 ddr4 motherboard and a 14700k(f) if you want to stay intel. For amd, you'd want a 5800x3d or similar am4 cpu and d3cent am4 mobi for the ddr4 ram but those are getting harder to get at a decent price
puchi2701@reddit
upgrade mobo if you also upgrade cpu. but i think that dont have sense because the best intel cpu that can work with am4 i think is a 14900k for that price you can probably go to am5 if you really need the 64gb of ram for work or something, upgrade to like an i7 14700k or a i5 14600k with a good mobo
MagicPistol@reddit
Am4 is amd platform and only supports Ryzen cpus, not the 14900k...
puchi2701@reddit
yea mb
ThunderKats351@reddit
NO
DRMNER11@reddit
No, if you want a performance upgrade you can keep your ddr4 ram and upgrade both your cpu + mobo to something on lga 1700. Maybe the 14600K or 14700K
9okm@reddit
No
dertechie@reddit
Not even marginal. A different Z390 motherboard will make no difference.
You generally upgrade your motherboard to upgrade the CPU.
aragorn18@reddit
There is no reason to upgrade your motherboard without also upgrading your CPU. You will see exactly zero performance improvement.