Balkaners - is this true about your country? Are these political parties still active?
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NoDoughnut8225@reddit
Far-right big wave for the win
SomeoneAlex218@reddit
Heard there might be shortages on the frontlines :)
NoDoughnut8225@reddit
wait for a moment, simion will send some of you to steal ukrainian drones, and then we will talk
SomeoneAlex218@reddit
Maybe he should send some of his kind to steal some Russian equipment, if it is of any use that is
No-Championship-4632@reddit
You mean steal donkeys?
Intelectualu@reddit
duck off
NoDoughnut8225@reddit
I think polls show real opinion of romanians
Intelectualu@reddit
the polls and the elections show that the majority of the people DON'T WANT YOU
dotso666@reddit
Romanian scum yes.
No-Championship-4632@reddit
Winning just like your dear leader did with your 3-day war :)
NoReally01@reddit
Bulgarian Peugeot really went all in, huh
Darth_Pista@reddit
Lol fidesz is nowhere near to far-right. Our far right party is Mi Hazánk.
Perfect-Hearing9080@reddit
Fidesz has way more relevance than mi hazánk
Guarantee_Future@reddit
Yet
Perfect-Hearing9080@reddit
Mi hazánk barley got enough vote to get seats , and torocksi plans to shut down bűnvadászok , they are irrelevant
DamnQuickMathz@reddit
In Hungary, sure. But in the general European framework, most definitely far-right.
Polnocium@reddit
Sure maybe not far-right, but I don't know about "nowhere near"
GalisReFile__@reddit
Greek solution publicly say that human came from god and its blasphemy to say we are related to apes , completely brainwashed Christian ,what a dufus
Numerous-Yam8317@reddit
Serbian SNS is a catch all populist party, literally has both LGBTQ activists and far righters in its ranks. Also Vučić "secretly" sold \~200k artillery shells to Ukraine, so Russia is really pissed of rn.
Meanwhile SNSD (Bosnian Serb party) is more aligned with Trump than with Russia.
lp4004@reddit
In which world does SNS have "LGBTQ activists", unless you count Brnabic being gay as being a queer activist?
Numerous-Yam8317@reddit
Predrag Azdejković comes to mind. Also probably has plenty of members of no importance, SNS does not discriminate, they just need obedience
Duncekid101@reddit
Don't forget the mayor of Belgrade and the juicy rumours about him ...
Electro-Choc@reddit
SNSD will play with whoever they think will "free" them. Once Trump is gone they will go back to leaning more on Russia but Russia is sort of killing itself.
MrDDD11@reddit
The last thing Dodik wants is a independent Srpska because that would lead to the people wanting to unite with Serbia. And if Srpska is untied with Serbia then he is out of power and can't fear monger how he is the last bastion of protection for the Serbs in the region.
DownvoteEvangelist@reddit
He can become the president of Serbia then, riding the popularity wave of bringing RS to Serbia...
Numerous-Yam8317@reddit
Dodik does not want a independent Republika Srpska lmao, he just wants to get rich. He did absolutely nothing to improve our position, whole independence talk is for dementia ridden and <90 IQ voters.
treba_dzemper@reddit
SNSD is absolutely a Russian puppet. Dodik hangs out of Putin's arse and has business dealings with them.
He's only infatuated with Trump as he perceives Trump admin to be pro Putin.
Beautiful-Clothes767@reddit
No fucking way you still denying it.
pumpasklitas@reddit
denying what? read what guy wrote ffs
ZAMAHACHU@reddit
Trump is aligned with Russia as well.
Aggorf12345@reddit
"Yeah let's blame Russia for the rise of the far right, I am sure racist Europeans have nothing to do with it"
RestaurantBoring417@reddit
This is the most tankie take I have seen in a while, of course it's Russia's fault, they literally fund all these parties to destabilize Europe lmao. Russia can't do shit against Europe when it's united so they try to divide us instead.
All those "racist" European politicians/influencers who are against immigration, support Trump etc. get paid by the Kremlin.
DamnQuickMathz@reddit
Also, let's not forget that Epstein and Steve Bannon were involved in the founding of pol on 4chan, which is the literal birthplace of all the alt-right arguments and talking points you see being floated by these parties.
AndryCake@reddit
In Romania at least it doesn't have anything to do with Racism. We don't even really have a significant number of immigrants. We do have a few minority groups, mainly Roma and Hungarians, but nobody really complains or cares since they've been here since forever. These parties are campaigning for nationalism and against the EU, often against Ukraine and sometimes even pro-Russia.
Excellent_Jeweler_43@reddit
Some of those parties do get direct funding from Kremlin though, like in Bulgaria’s Vazrazhdane the party leader goes to Moscow every now and again to give feedback to his bosses there
Mysterious-Put1459@reddit
And frankly among all those parties on the map, Vazrazhdane is the biggest parody
Excellent_Jeweler_43@reddit
Tbf I am glad that Putin has been funding flat out clowns like Volen Siderov and Kostadinov, so it is having the kind of the opposite effect of the intended.
Especially Siderov flat out grifted the guy and spent the money for cocaine and hookers
No-Championship-4632@reddit
Siderov was funny when he did the video op of getting into the national academy for theatre and film arts, threw his personal stash of cocaine on the ground and shouted "YOU SEE THEY DEAL DRUGS IN HERE". He got kicked out and just like 15 minutes later he got slapped and punched by some random people on the street lol.
Aggorf12345@reddit
I mean probably thats true, espescially for example Fidesz(until recently lol). The one in my country, Elliniki Lysi is pretty supportive of Russia too(just like many of the other far right parties here), although I am 99% sure they dont get any funding from them. but still blaming their rise on the Kremlin feels like whitewashing far right beliefs in my opinion
Neat_Selection3644@reddit
What do racist Europeans have to do with anything
Aggorf12345@reddit
Dude we are literally in a post about the far right
Bata600@reddit
They have influence in their own parlaiment, and subsequently in EU, for starters.
This-Wall-1331@reddit
Why not both?
_Winter-Wolf_@reddit
100%
DamnQuickMathz@reddit
Wasn't that the guy who had his election result overturned?
_Winter-Wolf_@reddit
You are talking about the schizo guy in the middle
Otherwise_Repeat_294@reddit
No. That is another lunatic. A country can have more than one. Is more fun
ristiberca@reddit
Sadly, yes. And they lead the polls for the next elections... 😟
Otherwise-Badger1061@reddit
Ohh shit man. I am sorry. When will you hold the elections. The thing is if the EU learned anything from our shit show, is not to fill the pockets of these Russian cock suckers for years. So hopefully if AUR wins they will not get the same money as us witj Fidesz. And I am confident, that if they wont, then they will fuck up governing quickly and leave.
One_more_drink_@reddit
Romania hasn't been sucking EU funds like Hungary, you and the Polish have more experience on that. Actually the government workers have been quite slow on using them, mainly because it takes a lot of extra paperwork and you get a shit pay if you're actually decent enough to not funnel those funds into your friends company.
The country would look and work way better if they actually cared to use those funds.
JealousBalance9707@reddit
End of 2028, but only parliamentary elections. The presidential election will be in 2030. If they don’t get 50% of the seats the president can keep them out of the government.
MarkMew@reddit
Can't wait for the entire EU to finally hate y'all instead of us /s
IgnoreMyPresence_@reddit
Hold on now, we're already advancing for that spot
Natopor@reddit
This union isnt big enough for both of us
MarkMew@reddit
I know I know, but we don't have beef like that with Bulgaria lol.
I haven't followed your internal politics at all until recently, what's the deal there? Do you think there will be yet another election or are you guys stuck with this? What was the campaign that lead to them winning?
I know I could google around but an actual person's perspective who's from there just hits different lol.
IgnoreMyPresence_@reddit
As a TLDR, after years of failed opposition parties, the general public desire to go out and vote plummeted. This led to minority and grifter parties having an easier time snatching a bigger share of the parliament, since their votes are few, yet hardcore.
Which then resulted in some extremely volitale parliaments, even more fragmented "opposition" parties and 0 actual work done.
8 total elections later, the leading corrupted party finally did a big enough oopsie for the people to stand up and overthrow them themselves. The approval ratings of every (even the main opposition party) went to the gutter, and a huge power vacuum opened for a "new" party. The president saw that opening, resigned early, opened a party coalition last second and we know the rest.
As much as I'd like to paint him as a potential Trojan horse like Orban, we just don't know. He spent majority of his political career as president in empty populist talks, slight rusophile stances and casual corruption condemnation. But that's all. We simply don't know how he'll act, what he'll pass once he has real governing power.
All we can judge from is the ministers he's gathered. A lot of them are ex-main corrupt party members and oligarhs, so there goes the anti-corruption slogan. He pretends to be a centrist pacifist with pro-EU integration in mind, but he's famously linked to a scandalous gas deal with Russia [Botash](https://www.reddit.com/r/bulgaria/comments/1n7pqko/някой_може_ли_да_обясни_случая_за_договора_за_газ/?tl=en) which is losing us billions a year..
All we can do is wait and see. But at least the people learnt again that protests DO work, so if we see him doing his Fico/Orban impression, I hope they're ready for some more.
Personal_Rooster2121@reddit
Yeah I doubt, seeing how high the frequency of elections can be in Bulgaria that guy will be out by September lol potentially back in November tho
dwartbg9@reddit
The last elections were almost 2 years ago. And this one is definitely going to last a full mandate, there's nobody else left for people to vote hence nobody will bother to protest.
ReflectionPure6900@reddit
That was the last one for a while. The general got a majority, 4 years of uneventful stealing ahead of us.
ristiberca@reddit
vivaervis@reddit
Is this some kinda 'my steak is too juicy, lobster too buttery' ahh moment for Romania? Are you already tired from European Union funds or smth?
AndryCake@reddit
Well the people who vote for the party aren't really educated enough to realise that. Ironically many of them work abroad in the EU...
Archaeopteryx111@reddit
There’s still a while. Really depends on whether the economy improves or not.
ristiberca@reddit
At the moment, their weakest spot is their stupid AF leader. My biggest fear is they'll change him with someone a bit more decent then we're toast
Archaeopteryx111@reddit
Who would replace him?
8iss2am5@reddit
In Slovenia we have a new party Resni.ca -> very suspiciously pro Russian.
jviegas@reddit
MAGA network....because they are the ones funding them as well
jedem_travu@reddit
VCU PDR FCK SNS
Capable-Ad-7306@reddit
Think about if Europe had good relationship with Russia, how much would benefit from cheaper energy. But no you want the Zionist American puppets
LaVeriteEstDansLeVin@reddit
Ελληνική λύση is a meme party. The president used to sell «hand-written epistles» of Jesus Himself lol. To be fair, he later admitted it was bs.
CorazonCracker@reddit
Lmao not really. For example, our PM Mitsotakis was using the hand written epistles thing as material in one of his recent propagandists speeches, saying anyone with a history of selling such things, should not have any position in politics or the state.
His Minister of Health Adonis Georgiadis has been caught with an old video, selling the exact same book and raving about it 12 years ago on his tv show, but unfortunately no one batted an eye
Asleep_Translator_46@reddit
Im fact Voridis when asked about it said "Adonis was just doing his job, mr Velopoulos made a political career of it. We really live in the funniest banania
Equivalent_Track_133@reddit
But really how different is this from any other far right party? They all communicate through memes these days.
SomeOneOutThere-1234@reddit
The problem is though, that it’s politicians are still members of parliament that vote for stuff and they’re advancing in polls. There are people that seriously vote this bullshit
GrogmarktheRag@reddit
Sadly Velopoulos is rising in the polls because of dissatisfaction with Mitsotakis. He was a snake oil salesman, but many people don't care, they just want a populist.
pisowiec@reddit
How is Poland's Confederation of the Polish Crown not on here? They're more pro-Kremlin than the likes of the SPD or AUR.
New_Breadfruit5664@reddit
The what of the what party? Excuse me?
GrogmarktheRag@reddit
There's an actual ""monarchist"" movement in Poland to crown Jesus Christ as King of Poland, and make it a Catholic theocracy in all but name. I'm not joking.
New_Breadfruit5664@reddit
Lmao. So they wanna become like Iran I guess
selomalodeco@reddit
I really wonder what would happen to Poland if you didnt have the economic boom in the last 20 years. Your whack guys get way too much votes.
BisonGamingTF2@reddit
what in gods earth is that? Like some Monarchist party?
18w4531g00@reddit
You can add one more for Bulgaria - Progressive Bulgaria. I'd put bronze with direction Red.
hitlicks4aliving@reddit
Yea Bulgaria is full of Russophiles but idk why because Russia is a dead country with shit infrastructure and logistics and going to implode the next time oil goes under $50 a barrel
EpicStan123@reddit
The Bulgarian one kinda but not really. They're not russophiles because of conviction, they're russophiles because they're grifters. If Europe was handing out money like Russia does they'll be the first one to sing the praises to Brussels.
Archaeopteryx111@reddit
Europe hands out a lot more money than Russia…but it’s harder to use for corruption.
Excellent_Jeweler_43@reddit
You can ask Boyko Borrisov and Peevski about that, they literally made a career out of embezzling EU funds, same with Vucic, same with early days Orban
Archaeopteryx111@reddit
Why do you guys keep having elections every year lol?
EpicStan123@reddit
I meant money as I'm bribes for influence XD
Aggorf12345@reddit
These kind of people are always looking out for their own interests after all
determine96@reddit
Yep.
I remember how two Kostadinov's post on FB were exposed and compared.
In one few years ago he wrote how if it wasn't for communism Bulgaria would have been like Greece at least and our people wouldn't go there to wash dishes and prostitute.
In the next more recent one the opposite, how if it wasn't for communism in Bulgaria we wouldn't have nuclear power plants etc.
It was the same with Volen Siderov before him.
EpicStan123@reddit
The biggest clownery was during the EU parliament elections. One month before he was like we must leave the EU, EU elections roll around and he was like we must stand with Europe vote for us
determine96@reddit
Really ?
I missed that.
Maybe he was like "we must stand with conservative Europe" because he was at moments about the reformation of the EU and renegotiation of the membership conditions for Bulgaria or some shit like that.
EpicStan123@reddit
Yeah that was the gist of it. It was more like you described it but it was still funny because he was calling for leaving the EU a month ago XD
pitogyros@reddit
Greek dude is a meme He is surely pro Russian but he is too dumb to be a puppet of Russia.
If you spend 10~ minutes listening to him you ll get my point exactly.
Substratas@reddit (OP)
What’s his name?
pitogyros@reddit
Kyriakos Velopoulos , not sure if you can find many translated speeches of him , but if you do , prepare yourself to lose plenty brain cells
alkorisno@reddit
So insane to blame everything on kremlin. Most of these are openly supported by Trump and EU. In serbia they send weapons to ukraine. This is CIA propaganda.
Ujemegaz@reddit
Every Greek party is sympathetic to Russia, and when war broke out, Greece flirted with Russia in the begining, but they bombed Greek villages in Ukraine nevertheless. Russians have their own way to send diplomatic messages.
pitogyros@reddit
Greece never flirted with Russia during the war , even many pro Russian politicians in past took distances against Russia.
By nature Greece can’t support what Russia is doing since it’s same case as Cyprus.
Greek external policy always tries to align with the situation in Cyprus , example that’s why Greece never recognises disputed territories.
Ujemegaz@reddit
pitogyros@reddit
Is that supposed to be a “ gotcha “ ?
You literally said that Greece was flirting with Russian when the war broke out and we switch policy after they bombed the Greek villages of Ukraine.
And your post above mentions that Greece immediately condemned Russian when war started.
Before the war , everyone knows that Greece was trying to be bridge between Russian and west and by being sympathetic to Russia in some cases , but that’s not what you originally said
Ujemegaz@reddit
No, i deleted my previous comment. But i am sure i had read an article of some sort that had shaped my impression. I followed many news during first couple of days of invasion.
pitogyros@reddit
Generally Greece started pulling away from Russia since Crimean invasion ( but not as much as we should ) The fully turn of Greek policy towards Russia was since the invasion of Ukraine.
Maybe what you read is that AFTER Russia bombed the Greek villages then Greece started sending even more weapons to Ukraine
Twofingers_@reddit
That’s just not accurate. Greece didn’t “flirt” with Russia when the war started, the Greek government condemned the invasion immediately, aligned with EU sanctions, and sent military and humanitarian aid to Ukraine.
As for “every Greek party being sympathetic to Russia,” that’s another oversimplification. Parties in Greece have very different positions, and several have been openly critical of Moscow for years.
And the idea that Russia bombed Greek villages as some kind of “diplomatic message” is just conspiracy-level speculation. Civilian areas in Ukraine were hit because Russia has been targeting civilian infrastructure across the country, not because of some special message to Greece.
If you’re going to make sweeping claims about geopolitics, at least base them on something real.
Ujemegaz@reddit
Ok, i deleted the previous message as it seemed ill intended, even though i was sure of the news articles of that time. Yet, you can understand my perception from the ai summary below.
Yavannia@reddit
Literally rent-free and misinformation.
Ujemegaz@reddit
If you say so.
LaVeriteEstDansLeVin@reddit
Our PM has said that we are at war with Russia (nobody else has said this besides Ukraine). Also we have donated a lot of ammunition to Ukraine.
And more generally, we are a US puppet state.
Ujemegaz@reddit
I kept track then. He said so after the villages were bombed.
marshal_1923@reddit
Most of these are not Kremlin’s. They’re just anti establishment parties that has traditional and old world values. In some aspects some of them are more leftist and anticapitalist than their “leftist” rivals.
GroundZeroMstrNDR@reddit
FPÖ in Austria has a friendship treaty with Единая Россия and handed secret service informations to them. The former FPÖ foreign minister of Austria invited Putin to her wedding
Milan_Leri@reddit
Unfortunately yes.
InitialOk8084@reddit
Sadly yes...
LibertyChecked28@reddit
Do you take your meds?
Happy-Hour88@reddit
Irish people, Spaniards and Portuguese are so lucky to be so far from Russia and their influence.
NecroVecro@reddit
The Bulgarian one is active but they barely made it to parliament this time since Radev took like half of their votes.
Also it should probably be put in the red category as the party has a cooperation agreement with United Russia (Putin's party).
Mobile-Comb1363@reddit
Velopoulos and Eliniki lysi are pretty much a joke.
As another commenter said, the guy used to sell "handwritten letters from Jesus" and magical remedies that prevent baldness..... while being bald himself. Unfortunately due to the fact that our main opposition parties are a complete and utter joke, clowns like him get popularity by playing the extremely easy anti-regime card.
non_numero_horas@reddit
Yes, though I'm still surprised how easily the Kremlin took the L in Hungary - as if they already had a plan B, take care Bulgaria and Slovakia...
Ahkofd@reddit
"Ελληνική Λύση" seems more like "Ρωσική Λύση"
Enchantedmango1993@reddit
AFD has confirmed russian ties?? WTF
LittleWhiteSlug@reddit
It's your power fantasy to believe Russia is so powerful lol
127x108@reddit
No. Serbian ruling party, SNS, is literally EU puppet. They are only keeping "russian ties" because significant % of population feels close to russian people and / or politics.
Resident_Jello5036@reddit
What's the opinion of Serbian people on the war Russia started in Ukraine?
127x108@reddit
IMO russian support is big %, but the main two arguments are:
-supporting ukraine because we don't support breaking up of sovereign states (what happened to us with Kosovo)
If you ask me, the main tragedy of this war is that two brotherly nations, both slavic and orthodox are killing themselves and destroying their economies and futures. And if you ask me, russia is not the main responsible one. Not even the most responsible.
Resident_Jello5036@reddit
Lol, then who's responsible? 🤣🤣🤣 Of course it's Russia, dummy. They attacked, they kill Ukrainian children and bomb their schools and hospitals. They destroyed tens of cities and villages where now there won't live anyone for decades, they mined all the fields. They organize HUMAN SAFARIES IN HERSON. Yes, Russians.
127x108@reddit
If we were speaking IRL I'd try and explain you bu no amount of arguments will be accepted on reddit, so I won't even try. Ask yourself why did russia invade in 2022? And don't try to use "putin crazy" argument because that's just lazy and not correct.
Resident_Jello5036@reddit
Putin crazy is the correct variant.
zpetar@reddit
Vučić is literally selling off Serbia piece by at discounted pieces. Oil related industry to Russia.
Real estate and some other things to Arabs/UAE like Belgrade waterfront. From what I could gather it was more political play by US and Israel. They wanted more influence in Serbia and fresh money from Arab sheiks was perfect stick and carrot for corrupted Serbian politicians.
Mineral rich Eastern Serbia and major infrastructure projects to China.
Lithium deposits to some undisclosed shady entities.
127x108@reddit
My brother in christ, there are arabs only in name. It's all money laundering... Government is selling off state owned companies, resources and land to receive political support in return.. from china, to israel, germany, france all the way to US...
Beautiful-Clothes767@reddit
Still denying it.
Mysterious_Contact_2@reddit
What
Varterove_muke@reddit
Least schizophrenic watcher of Happy
127x108@reddit
Hahahaha wtf lol
I don't even own tv subscription bro
Aggressive_Bag2714@reddit
Yes. AUR is popular and I hate it.
Available-Badger-163@reddit
Its a rulling party jn Serbia. But calling tjem far right is an joke they are a big tent party
BasedEmu@reddit
The communist party is way more vocal than chega.
DontCareHowICallMe@reddit
Far right
mrwhite14X@reddit
No and yes.
It's a mix of people who are against the EU bureaucrats, people who are anti-establishment, some Russia sympathizers, and a few interest groups with lots of money.
Although they are big, they are controlled opposition and have no influence over real power like the judiciary, media, finance, basic services, etc., and the people that are actually behind the movement...well....
Let's just say they really like the Likud party of Israel...
Designer-Touch9263@reddit
Unfortunaly yes, but not for long
Altruistic-Board5322@reddit
Our guy in Greece is in a different level.
He had a telemarketing show, in which he a) sold "handwritten" letters of Christ b) sold an ointment against baldness while he himself is bald
I m not sure there is anyone that can beat that combo
Beautiful-Clothes767@reddit
They all russian bots, no fck way
Prudent-Werewolf3712@reddit
Add FVD to the Netherlands
Intelectualu@reddit
it's true for AUR but SOS Romania has confirmed ties and POT is the same as AUR
ZAMAHACHU@reddit
It's true for SNSD in Bosnia.
Trody34@reddit
Chega, in Portugal, is definitely not pro russia
krsCarrots@reddit
We’re all cooked
No-Championship-4632@reddit
The Bulgarian one barely passed the 4% barrier, Radev almost killed them, assimilated like 70% of their voters or something.
cofi04@reddit
Kremlin's far right - everything I don't agree with
Murky-Ad-6976@reddit
Yeah let’s import another billion syrians and everybody who disagree is a russian puppet
Distinct_Travel6386@reddit
In Serbia, Nestorović for the win
he visited Russia multiple times, and gave interview for Russian national TV station
Unngenant@reddit
This is so...Stupid. In Serbia ruling party was created with help of CDU from Germany in their epp network.