Died died. What do I do?
Posted by Outrageous_Bad5071@reddit | AskUK | View on Reddit | 52 comments
Hiya my dad was found dead this morning in his flat. My mum who divorced him in 2011 was down as his next a kin. My sister and I are both adults with our own families. What are the next steps please. The police said a coroner will give her a ring. He has all our family photos and memories in his flat that I would love to have. Any advice would be lovely. I lost contact with him about 3 months ago as he could be a very cruel and hurtful man when his mood was bad. I love and miss him and can’t process anything. Thanks in advance x
DaveBeBad@reddit
Sorry for your loss. Have a read of this for information.
https://www.gov.uk/when-someone-dies
gggggenegenie@reddit
Sorry for your loss. And thank you Dave for posting this link. It is Al you need.
gggggenegenie@reddit
I knew one of the people who was responsible for the 'plain' way they were written in a past life. The way they went about putting it all together, getting everyone on board, making the house style, etc, was fascinating. Alas I wasn't fascinating enough for her 😳
Silverdale9999@reddit
It covers it so well. Gov.uk sites are one of the best things about this country.
Out-For-A-Walk-Bitch@reddit
DaveBeGood
Affectionate_Tea_571@reddit
Is it AI they need?
Interesting-Day-9369@reddit
sorry to hear bud
gsko5000@reddit
I don't have any advice but wanted to say I'm sorry for what you are going through. Hope the next while goes as well as it can x
WGD23@reddit
If mum is next of kin she's the official 'go to'. Support her as best you can x
Bright_Series_8835@reddit
I'm so sorry for the death of your father. May he rest in peace. I hope this is not offensive, but I will pray for you and your family.
This post is probably too long and detailed for you to try to deal with now. Maybe just the first two paragraphs and the first three sentences of the third paragraph to start with. You will probably need some kind of death certificate, probably from the coroner.
My sister was the legal next of kin when my mother died. She immediately notified the rest of the family. If he was religious, you should notify his church officials and start thinking about a funeral and a funeral home. Many churches have people who help with planning a funeral or a memorial service. Some funeral homes have them, too. Be sure to let them help you. If you know whether he would have preferred a burial or a cremation, you can discuss it with your relatives, especially your sister. If you know that he would have preferred no funeral service, you can discuss that with your sister, too. If he was ever in the military, he might have some veterans' benefits, a right to a military funeral, a burial in military cemetery or columbarium, and a grave marker. Having military at a funeral can be very nice for many people. If he served in the military, you should contact his branch of the service. and see what they do.. They probably have somebody who helps with any benefits and funerals. You also might want to plan obituaries for the newspapers in the area. The LNOK sister arranged for my mother's cremation after she asked each of us siblings if it was ok with us. She bought four smaller urns so she could have the ashes divided and given to each sibling. Some churches don't allow the ashes to be divided. They have to be kept in one place.
My sister had the keys to our mother's house. She arranged for the adult relatives to meet there to clean it, do some repairs, and sort through my mother's things for what they each wanted to keep. She also found out what the younger nieces and nephews needed--things like dishes or flatware or furniture or bed linens and such. My brother parked a rented truck next to her house and transported his things and the things for his young adult children to the other side of the country where they all lived. My sister from a different part of the country boxed things up so they could be shipped back to her home. They took a day off and came to visit me and brought me boxes of my mother's Catholic religious articles that they thought I might like or would know how to see that they got to people who needed them, because the rest of the family wasn't Catholic anymore. I organized them, untangled the rosaries and bagged each one separately, and took them to our parish church.
I think my sister who was the legal next of kin took care of the photos and the piano music. At an earlier time she had taken all the family photos and had them copied and sent a set to each of us siblings. Now there are digitizing services that will copy the photos to CDs or DVDs or flash drives which you can share with your sister. It's a good way to save the older photos so they don't deteriorate with time, too. Be sure to get a reputable digitizing service. You can ask if any of the other relatives want any photos or keep sakes and scan the photos into a computer and send them via email. They may especially like the ones where they are included in the photo. The sister who was LNOK loved my grandmother's copper ware items and kept them. She also loved what was left of my mother's silver plated flatware. She didn't keep the sterling. I think it went to a niece or nephew. The people who were at the house said what they especially wanted to have of my mother's things and were able to make nice agreements about them. There were things of our grandmother there, too. My mother hadn't asked for a funeral, so they just took some time off from cleaning and sorting and sat in the living room and shared the funny and happy things they remembered about her and cried and laughed and had some refreshments.
One of my cousins got all of her father's things, including all of the family photos of his generation and our grandparents' generations and even earlier. She only shared a few of them via email. There were many many photos of my siblings in those albums and also photos of the grandparents' siblings and get togethers. She wanted to cut them up and scrap book them, but doing it would lose all of the historical things in the backgrounds of the photos like cars, farm implements, furniture styles. old books my father and aunt owned which grandma read to my siblings and me, and pictures of the houses they lived in. She kept nearly all of those family things. My sister who was the LNOK got the ones from my aunt and saw that they got circulated. She brought the old letters and baptism certificates, etc. to my apartment, and we scanned them with my very large powerful scanner and emailed them to everybody. The LNOK sister has the originals. I showed her how to save the paper things in acid free sheet protectors, so they wouldn't deteriorate any more than already. Those sheet protectors aren't expensive and can be put into a ring binder. You get them at a store that sells office supplies. She and I have asked for a lot more of the family photos from that cousin. Her sister even asked her to send them. She hasn't, and it's been quite a few years now. Their brother didn't know the value of the Indian blankets and pottery and old things that were stored in my aunt's home and the historical value of the records of the leger books from my grandfather's grocery and general merchandise store on the Indian reservation. Those records could have enabled historians to reconstruct many details of life there from the early 1900s until the late 1950s. By the time we warned him about it, it was too late. (Those cousins are much younger than my siblings and I. They knew almost nothing about those grandparents.) One of my father's youngest cousins was able to provide some photos and genealogical information to fill in the gaps. The photos and letters my LNOK sister rescued from my aunt's home also filled in some gaps. There are some uncomfortable feelings about not sharing my uncle's family photo albums. We manage to be polite and watch each other's web pages but don't correspond much. I did their genealogy for them on both sides, and tracked down some genealogical information about my uncle's birth mother which I emailed to them with information about the hospital, and the orphanage and the nuns who ran it and how the toddlers got there. (The mothers had to keep the babies for a while.)
Those are some things to be careful about.
My LNOK sister arranged for the sale of my mother's house and things that weren't given to relatives. The real estate agents insisted on a few repairs. My brother was able to come back out here and do them, so there was little cost involved. My LNOK sister worked as an accountant at a law firm, so she notified the pension plans, disposed of my mother's stocks and other assets, paid the taxes and bills, and made the appropriate bank accounts to store the various moneys, until everything was sorted out, and she could divide my mother's estate properly. She did a good job and kept superb records. I think she used Microsoft's Excel program, and emailed us copies as the various financial details were completed. You will want to keep your relatives posted about what you are doing, so they won't feel left out.
Peace to you and your family.
dbxp@reddit
If you have an employee assistance team through your employer they often have professionals who can help you get all the financial stuff in order and offer counselling. Banks also have specialist bereavement teams who can help you out.
Dinesaur@reddit
Heya firstly I'm sorry for your loss, and I hope you have people around to lean on.
I work for the Coroners and although I can't speak for every single jurisdiction the beats will be similar.
If you're arranging the funeral at least start the conversations, choosing your undertaker etc just don't commit to a date just yet.
If the doctor won't offer a Cause of Death then expect the Coroners to arrange a post-mortem, which they'll explain.
Sadly death is complicated, and I'm glad everyone's already thrown out helpful links for you too. Happy to clarify any of the above too.
No_Pea-1@reddit
How much notice is usually given for an inquest? Im worried about going on holiday this year in case I miss it.
Dinesaur@reddit
A coroner being involved doesn't automatically mean an Inquest if that helps. They hold an Inquest for a few different reasons (such as if the death was "unnatural" which can include falls, RTCs, or suicide as a few examples).
The Coroner will only schedule an Inquest once they definitely know the cause of death. Inquests can be listed with a couple of weeks notice if there isn't much to investigate. In my experience the best thing you can do is speak to the Coroners Officer to advise of your availability; most Coroners would take that into account when scheduling as they know it can be important for family to be there.
No_Pea-1@reddit
A doctor will need to register his death, a funeral home service will need to be chosen. They will care for him and conduct the funeral. They will discuss what happens with you.
On the admin side, you can contact his GO if you know it. And you can use the Tell Us Once service. This service means that you wont need to call all the individual gov agencies yourself. (Dvla, pension etc)
Youll need to gather his documents re. Pensions and finances.
This is not all to be done in one day.
socially-awkward-cat@reddit
Just to note- a doctor will not register the death. One of the following will happen. 1. A doctor will issue a medical cause of death certificate to medical examiner who will check everything and send it to the register office for the family to attend and register the death. 2. The coroner will.do a post mortem and issue documents to the register office for the family to come and register the death 3. An inquest will be raised by the coroners office and the death will be registered based on the coroners documents
No_Pea-1@reddit
Oh yeah I meant the cert and then you register it with that cert.
Splendid8@reddit
I found my mum dead and there had to be a post mortem, so it took a while before all the other things could happen- that might give you time to plan. So sorry, even if they’re difficult it’s a shock to lose a parent.
automatic_shark@reddit
I'm very sorry to hear about your loss. Take things slow, allow yourself to cry, and talk to a therapist if you can
JenCarpeDiem@reddit
I'm very, very sorry about your dad. I'll tell you what I can about what comes next, based on my experience with my mum's death in Dec 2024. My brother and I had to figure it all out by ourselves, but luckily our mum had a very small estate (no property or investments) and we didn't need to go for probate or handle anything more than closing down accounts.
Firstly, your mum being "next of kin" in his medical records doesn't mean anything now, that expired when he died and it was only ever a way to designate "call this person." You and your sister are now the appropriate points of contact. Decide between yourselves who will handle what, and be clear about it before you start signing things (like the death certificate.)
The Coroner will call your mum (unless she tells them to call either you or your sister.) They need a family contact to accept what they're going to put on the death certificate, and they will explain their findings and answer any questions you have. This is the last opportunity to speak to a person who has read your dad's medical record and understands what happened to him. This conversation is important. Once you have accepted their findings and finished this conversation, they'll release their own certificate directly to the registrar.
Register Office. Make an appointment first, and check your local council website for what you need to take in. Only one person can sign the actual death certificate, and in our case it helped that it was the person who dealt with the bank later on. Folks will tell you to buy multiple certificates, I got three but only needed one because everywhere either made their own scan or accepted ours. If you know of any alternative names that your dad used, like a different spelling or a nickname that got used on anything official (e.g. Jon or Johnathan instead of Jonathan), make sure you tell the registrar about it so it goes on the certificate.
Banks. Go into the branch if you can. They will take a scan of the death certificate and tell you what is in the account(s) and explain the process to you. I would do this right away so you know what kind of budget to expect for the funeral, and also because it can take a little while to transfer the funds. I had to chase mine up after a couple of weeks, and magically it arrived within a few hours of doing so, so be prepared to do the same.
Funeral Director. I chose Co-Op Funeral Services (not the regional version) because they had the most options and could accomodate our very tight budget. Be clear about your budget. It's not scary, it was actually one of the most comfortable meetings I had during this whole saga.
Tell Us Once. You'll get a pamphlet about this government service from the registrar. Get it done first to cover all the government stuff, and then move on to The Death Notification Service and Life Ledger to cover all the other accounts.
Keep A Record. This all gets confusing, so we used a shared Google Drive folder to keep track of the things we needed to do and all the things we'd done (logging phone calls mostly, and keeping note of anything they told us regarding ETA for refunds or letters.) It saved us a few times, and it helped to keep everyone up to date with the current progress and what needed doing next.
This is a truly horrible, life-changing thing to have to deal with. Those first few days are like being on an entirely different planet. I'm so glad you're not alone, but please remember that even though you're all going through this together, you are all going through this differently. You won't be on the same laughing/crying timeline as anybody else. This can cause fights, but don't let it. You need to be a team.
Come on over to /r/griefsupport when you need to vent. <3
Zee21_x@reddit
Grief is just love with nowhere to go.
Take each day as it comes. If you want to cry, let it happen. Talk to people if you want
undoneyet@reddit
A load of good advice in these posts, but I would like to add one thing: whenever you contact anybody to do with managing his estate make sure that you emphasise that you are bereaved, and ask to deal with the bereavement specialist (especially important when communicating with banks or bills). If things get tricky just remember to insist that you need to be handled as a bereaved person with understanding and dignity.
Logically_Conflicted@reddit
I'm sorry for your loss. My father was found after being deceased a while, it was unclear how long even after PM. If this is the case for you, get a professional cleaner to go in there first. The police advised us to do this as they said it would not be a memory we would want to have. It cost quite a lot, £1000 roughly, but it was certainly better than the alternative.
I was estranged from my father at the time of his death. He was also abusive and cruel. It was a year yesterday, and I still have not processed the loss. I grieve for the father I should have had, but not for the man who I actually knew. It's extremely complicated and few people seem to understand.
jimicus@reddit
Sorry for your loss.
What will happen next: The coroner will decide whether or not there needs to be a post mortem. Based on what you've said, they'll probably order one.
This isn't something you have any say in, I'm afraid. The coroner has full and final authority on this matter and won't even seek your opinion.
Once that's done, he'll be released for an undertaker to take him. From there, it's a matter of organising a funeral and dealing with his affairs - this is a matter for his executor.
lady_faust@reddit
My dad passed away last week. My condolences to you. I'm not a lawyer. Some of the things I'm dealing with at the moment.
The death must be registered: this is why the coroner will call.
At this appointment (made at your local registry office or town hall) you will be given:
the death certificate (additional copies can be ordered at this time as well),
a green slip (to give to the funeral director so that the body can be buried)
and a slip with numbers on it that you will need to use for the Tell Us Once service https://www.gov.uk/after-a-death/organisations-you-need-to-contact-and-tell-us-once
You will find that when you call anyone to let them know your dad has died that they wont be able to do much without the death certificate and if you think you may need more than one copy I.e. for banks, lawyers, you can order them at the registry appointment for a fee.
If your dad has a bank account with enough money to cover the funeral most banks will allow you to pay for the funeral by presenting the funeral directors quote or bill alongside the death certificate. Google the bank name + 'bereavement' or 'reporting a death'.
If anyone asks you for money for any debts your dad had and if he has died without any money then do not pay them because the debt dies with the person. They can threaten etc but on production of the death certificate they should leave you alone.
But if your dad has a significant amount in his bank (or you can value his estate at £60,000 + e.g he owns a house, a car, has money in the bank.. then you will need to settle Probate before inheriting anything. Probate will settle any debts your dad might have.
Hope this helps! Its a difficult time for you all so take things slowly and make sure things like admin are done correctly before giving objects or money away.
Common-Aardvark-8358@reddit
As your mum is next of kin then all proceeds go to your mum unless a will says different
Leytonstoner@reddit
Use the government Tell Us Once Service
https://www.gov.uk/after-a-death/organisations-you-need-to-contact-and-tell-us-once
Count000Zero@reddit
I am really sorry for your loss my friend..
Pristine_Dot_5526@reddit
Sorry for your loss.
Particular_Piece2965@reddit
I’m sorry for your loss, I recently lost my dad too and it’s absolutely awful. The gov website about what to do when someone dies is useful as other people have mentioned. I also used settld.co.uk that’s for things like Amazon prime subscriptions, water companies, mobile phone contracts etc.
For yourself, just let yourself feel it all and don’t hold back. Obviously there may be times when you need to be strong but allocate some time every day when you can just cry or really think. Cruse bereavement was good for me, and also the subreddit grief. In the early days I lost my appetite so drank meal replacement drinks, I was also absolutely shattered for weeks. Don’t feel ‘lazy’ or guilty if you need to rest or don’t feel up to things. Take care
KingKhram@reddit
Sorry to read this. Google 'Tell us once' that will let many government organisations know what has happened. It should give you a link for the gov.uk website
Nice-Goose-7599@reddit
(UK I'm 42 now ) My Dad and mum divorced when I was 7 due to his abusive nature but we had weekends with him. He had anger issues and was hard for me to get along with but when I was 14 he developed lung cancer and spent the next 2 years fighting it before I was pulled out of 6th form to try and get to see him before he died. I didn't get there in time and I refused to see his body as I wanted to remember him alive rather than a shell.
My point is whatever you do this is going to be a hard road ahead, I've spent many years questioning if I could have done things better or if he even deserved it.
What I think you should do is remember any good times you had with him and moments where you truly felt some love. Lock in what you want to remember, the good and the bad and remember that you aren't responsible for any of the badness in your parents past.
Much love. X
frecklyelbow@reddit
I'd just like to add that the best advice I got after my dad past away was to seek grief counselling. Please consider it when you feel ready for it.
Bigbitchybubbles@reddit
I second this. I lost my dad in a road accident and as the oldest I did everything re paperwork etc. grief counselling was very helpful after a while to help me cope. So sorry for your loss OP.
OK_Cake05@reddit
No advice but thoughts with you and your family ❤️
Otherwise-Abalone879@reddit
I'm so sorry for your loss. My partner lost his dad suddenly a week or so ago and I've been supporting him. Make sure you have a good support network and don't be afraid to ask those who are close to you for support, be it practical or emotional, if you need it. Take some bereavement leave from work if you're currently employed xx
LaidBackLeopard@reddit
Very sorry to hear that. The gov site is a good starting point: https://www.gov.uk/when-someone-dies
Do you know if he had a will? If not (i.e. he was intestate), you and your sister will inherit everything. There's some admin ahead, but in my experience people are understanding and helpful. Right now, look after you and yours. You can worry about sorting things out later.
wheresmyhat8@reddit
That gov site was super helpful when my father in law died.
OP Do you have someone who can help you with the technicalities? I did it all for my wife/MIL so they could focus on grieving while I got the details arranged. Just occasionally needed them for paperwork, but I think it helps at a time when everything is upside down.
notmenotyoutoo@reddit
If you want someone to talk to in person about what to do you can walk in to a local funeral business and ask them. I did that and they were really helpful organising the immediate things and pointing me in the right direction for the rest.
Rough-Sprinkles2343@reddit
Plenty of advice on the government web
kittykat7931@reddit
The police and the coroner being involved is just routine. The police attend in the first instance to make sure there are no suspicious circumstances and then act on behalf of the coroner by gathering information and passing it on. The coroner will review the circumstances and yours dad’s previous health to determine if further investigation is required. When someone from the coroners office calls they will be able to answer most questions you have and give you a timescale. You will then be able to instruct the undertakers of choice to collect your dad and you can start making plans for a funeral. As others have said a lot will depend on whether or not there is a will or if you know your dad’s wishes. Also if he owns his own property or if it is housing association as they often want the property cleared within a certain time frame.
Just take your time and tackle one thing at a time. There is no set way that you should grieve. I’m sorry for your loss.
Ribena-eater@reddit
Hi, sorry you're experiencing this. I went through similar. I went to pick up his things from the shelter he was staying at; they arranged the initial pickup and admin etc but I do remember we were back and forth with the coroner for about a month. In that time we couldn't officially register his death and had to get a 'temporary' death certificate, nor could we have the funeral until the results were back as we didn't have his body.
Also, because of the coroner's investigation they couldn't embalm his body. I only mention this part as I took up the option to go and see him once the coroner had finished, and because of this it wasn't the experience I was probably hoping for (the funeral staff did warn me tbf.)
Best wishes, keep busy and remember the good times if you can.
Suitable-Ad2831@reddit
I'm so sorry for your loss.
Small-Caramel-3579@reddit
https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/family/death-and-wills/dealing-with-the-financial-affairs-of-someone-who-has-died/
If he doesn't have a will you apply for letter of administration and can download forms for probate or Letters of Administration. All to be done after death cert is issued. It isnt too onerous and the service will advise if you miss anything.
For online support and excellent information to help navigate. https://whatsyourgrief.com
https://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/feelings-symptoms-behaviours/feelings-and-symptoms/grief-bereavement-loss/
You will be in shock and very raw emotionally try to do admin in morn for couple hours only it is exhausting to keep writing about a loved ones death. Use a notebook to keep track of it as you wont have much memory space.
Sending deepest condolences x
Firthy2002@reddit
Sorry for your loss.
Do you know if your dad had a Will?
Secure_Music_6062@reddit
Sad to read such a post. I'm sorry for your loss. Though someone has posted the practical (essential) things here, I found that Cruse helpline really helped me, if you do need to talk to someone. Often an anonymous, non judgemental person on the phone can help. You will still be in shock and things will have a surreal edge to them - this is normal. There is no right or wrong way to go about this.
Chrolan1988@reddit
If he had any serious assets you will need to contact a solicitor. In what documents did you see her as next of kin?
There is a lot to unpack here but you will need to firstly contact all the utilities and housing provider if renting.
You can only proceed fully with a tell us once form from the gov after a death certificate is issued after this is done you can then proceed with any transfer of goods etc.
For now, focus on utility, housing and finance.
Work with your sibling to resolve.
Also, you should be able to get some time off work as they are immediate family.
Keep it practical, emotions will run high and this is where full outs happen. It’s a lot to take on and you won’t have access to much and it will be confusing for a while.
Recommend, if you can to seek therapy too.
All the best with it, it’s a lot to take on.
RogerDeBeaumont@reddit
Sorry to hear about your loss. From my experience they may ask someone to go and identify the body. Then it's up to your family to see to the flat and financial affairs, funeral, etc.
Tattyhead4@reddit
Sorry for your loss.
Bonzos_Bowler_Hat@reddit
Peace be with you bruv
Ill-Cauliflower-25@reddit
I've got no advice on the questions, just wanted to say I'm sorry for your loss and wish you the best. "Grief is the price we pay for love".
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