Why can't koenigseggs ever replicate there times on the road. Like not even close??
Posted by SilverSpoonphysics@reddit | askcarguys | View on Reddit | 33 comments
I’ve been seeing a ton of videos lately about the Koenigsegg Jesko. This hypercar costs around $3–5 million (depending on spec), yet it never seems to run anywhere close to its advertised performance numbers in real-world tests.
• Cleetus McFarland ran a 9.8-second quarter mile.
• The Hamilton Collection hit 10.2 seconds.
• Carwow clocked a 10.0-second run (or around 9.9–10.0 in their leaderboard).
Excellent_League3718@reddit
Because they require the absolute perfect conditions. How do you think the U9 got its wr? Go on a really long road and go fast?
Amazing-Bag@reddit
They aren't easy to launch, just because people have access to one doesn't make them great at launching it.
You also need a great surface. Run one 100-200mph and they deliver their performance no problem.
Dull_Lavishness7701@reddit
why do cars never actually get their advertised MPGs? Everything is tested under the most ideal circumstances possible
PhotographLess6194@reddit
Not to sound like a smart ass but I've always gotten advertised or better MPG in all of my cars.
Insertsociallife@reddit
I don't know what kind of neanderthals the EPA uses to get their fuel economy ratings but they leave so much on the table. I can beat the highway fuel economy by 10 MPG in my car.
Euphoric_Loquat_8651@reddit
I don't know how you drive (or what you drive), but usually MPG maxing usually involves driving like a fuckwit and causing traffic for everyone else.
Satins_Cock@reddit
See I was thinking the opposite, their highway mpg is at like 65 mph, in real life everyone goes faster than that
ce402@reddit
It’s not supposed to be a 100% accurate representation of actual driving, so of course you can beat it in real world, day to day driving.
It is designed to be the same test for all vehicles so you can accurately compare them to each other. Making the test into who can actually eke out the most efficiently while out in traffic would be like comparing lengths of rope measured in arm’s lengths.
Whose arms? Depends on who’s measuring.
Gunk_Olgidar@reddit
My daily driver gets 31mpg in 30% highway 70% suburban driving, compared to EPA rating of 30 combined.
zinsser@reddit
My mother-in-law thinks Ford has pre-set the average MPG in her Edge, because every time she resets it her MPG eventually goes back to the same number - even if she's very careful about driving economically. She's 86. I told her that's because it's an average and she probably reverts to her normal driving style when she's not actively thinking about her mileage, but she's convinced Ford pre-set it just to mess with her. Oh well.
FLOHTX@reddit
May be time to take her keys? Doesn't sound mentally sharp and is 86
zinsser@reddit
She's actually incredibly sharp in general, retired from teaching computer skills to high schoolers.
StarsandMaple@reddit
I would agree but tons of people assume a ton of shit with no reason or thought behind it.
badhabitfml@reddit
Manufacturers can beat the crap out of it. An owner might not want to risk breaking something to launch that hard.
Look at any manual transmission car's 0-60 times. No owners will ever match that because you have to hate your car to do it.
u3b3rg33k@reddit
you can in a DSG!
until you can't:
https://forums.audirevolution.net/t/hit-200-launches-launch-control-non-functional/6443
Senappi@reddit
The Koenigsegg Agera RS that set the official world top-speed record for a production car was a customer car. Some companies send prepped vehicles to motor journalists, but Koenigsegg doesn't.
beagletronic61@reddit
And the criteria for that record requires two high-speed passes (one in each direction) and the record is the average of the two
Own-Inflation8771@reddit
Because they are bull shit cars built primarily to be a status symbol.
MagnusAlbusPater@reddit
I can respect Koenigsegg for their engineering and unique engine designs they come up with. They’re doing things differently from many other brands.
I also think their vehicles are as ugly as sin and even if I had hundreds of millions of dollars I’d never buy one, but I can respect what they do when it comes to powertrains.
New-Deal2694@reddit
prepped tracks and tyres, perfect conditions etc
ChuckoRuckus@reddit
Cleetus ran it a Bradenton dragstrip (which he co-owns), which is near sea level and did it in February, so the air density was good. The track prep there is also very good considering how fast he’s gone there on a radial (radial prep typically better than bias ply slick).
Ok_Two_2604@reddit
Probably also with rollout in the official time.
GeriatricSquid@reddit
This is the answer. Doesn’t matter how much power a car has if it turns it all into tire smoke rather than oomf to get the car moving. Sticky pavement combined with cold/dense air to maximize power production, minimal fluids load onboard, optimized tire pressures on hot tires, and probably a skinny woman driver with amazing reaction times who weighs 88# soaking wet will yield radically different results than my fat ass stomping the pedal at a stoplight in the same car.
series-hybrid@reddit
Cold air is denser and capable of more power than hot air, higher octane fuel (100 avgas) can tolerate more boost.
Plus as much as experienced drivers can struggle with any car at 200 MPH, it only takes one bad day to 'total' an exotic and die. Always be skeptical of record-setting runs that are used as the baseline for performance comparisons.
Plus the car could be tuned to be more powerful, but the engine would only last a couple of runs before eating a piston or an exhaust valve at those settings.
When I was very young, kids would mention that their favorite car had a "top speed" of 212 MPH, and another kid would argue that HIS favorite car had a top speed of 213 MPH.
Rich people buy these cars as status symbols. If they will never drive them over 140-MPH, it doesn't even matter what their theoretical top speed is.
OtterCreek_Andrew@reddit
These companies will go out and run 100 different 1/4 passes with the best gas and tires and road surface money can buy and cherry pick the best time. Maybe a slight downhill and tailwind. They’re never realistically repeatable times.
Rare-Bet-870@reddit
Driver reaction, weather, even the weight of the passengers can slow it down
HoldingThunder@reddit
yeah, no fatties!
1995LexusLS400@reddit
This is the case for just about every car. 0-60 times are almost always done on prepped drag strips in ideal conditions with a 1ft rollout. Meaning they're actually \~5-60 times.
The same goes for 1/4 mile runs for the cars that officially do them.
Lower_Athlete939@reddit
I only think that is true for a few US brands. Most European or Asian brands you can reliably beat the advertised 0-60 yourself if you have one of the cars
Dramatic-Comb8525@reddit
They're more "look at me" cars than performance cars.
NuclearPopTarts@reddit
They are fashion-supercars, not racecars.
Insertsociallife@reddit
The Gemera has 2,300hp. By my napkin math, that car with 5,000lb of traction spin the wheels up to 170mph. A prepped drag strip where it can actually put that down will make a huge difference.
Amarathe_@reddit
0-60 times generally delete the first foot of rollout, preped tracks are a huge boost, having the team that built it fine tune and pick out the perfect conditions...