ELI5: How are there so many types of monitors, and what is their use?
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I'll preface by saying I play Xbox Series X (building a PC but that won't be done for a long time). I tried to ask that subreddit their thoughts, but those guys don't know nothin about nothin. I need the real knowledge, and I know at least one of you guys has it.
I've started diving deeper into better-looking games-- be it single player, open world, or just anything made in the last few years. I want to witness these games in their best capacity (within reasonable cost). I just landed myself a work from home job and now will have the opportunity to do so, but I do not know what type of monitor to grab. There's an OVERWHELMING number of options for a guy like me.
Looking on PCPartPicker, I ran into this abomination of a list: AHVA, IPS, IPS Mini LED, IPS QD-Mini, LED Mini, LED Nano, IPS OLED, PLS, PVA, QD-OLED, QD-VA, TN, VA, VA Mini LED, VA QD-Mini, LED, WOLED, WOLED, Tandem.
I have no clue what the hell any of that means. After reading through some threads, I heard that OLED is best but can burn, or that Mini LED is best but there's a flickering issue, or that IPS is best but then there's xyz issue with that. I also read that, unless you spend 800 bucks, you're buying garbage. Is that true? I don't want to drop a few hundred on a monitor that I need to replace in a few months.
Is there anything quality that doesn't have some experience-ruining problem with it? Surely all the stuff I have read can't be true. My original plan was to walk into Best Buy and ask the guy what he has. Thank god I did not and actually looked this stuff up. I just need a monitor that performs well and looks great, without spending thousands of dollars and without looking over my shoulder every 5 minutes for a pixel to die.
Literally anything you can tell me or recommend to me will be valuable information, so thank you in advance.
postsshortcomments@reddit
Eco/budget person, so I'll provide my take on the floor.
I'm on my third IPS monitor and have just stuck with them because they're mostly good enough, albeit they do have some major flaws.
There's definitely quality on the market above an IPS and other monitors on the market obviously look better (your LED/OLEDs). But they're still a solid, cheap workhorse that usually get the job job done. If cheaper TV models with blacklight bleed bother you, if you want to make out all of the background detail in dark scenes (and with let's say, black hair), if you've already experienced LED/OLED in a TV and want equal quality for your purchase, then an IPS probably isn't for you. If I had to give them a late gen sub-$180 1440p 144hz 27" retired, but still a long good life ahead of them: they'll be a great 2nd monitor regardless, they're monitors that monitor, they are by no means a technically perfect or accurate device and never were meant to be, they're colorful and sometimes obnoxiously vibrant in a way that simply looks good at the cost of accuracy, they're fine for gaming but everyone knows they struggle with making details out with dark scenes, they handle lit scenes pretty beautifully like APEX, they're great for office work, I still wouldn't expect most to complain about their monitor quality on an $800 laptop - but I also wouldn't expect them to be impressed as it's what they've seen for a decade, and you wont exactly say "wow" - but it still looks good enough to watch something on without being distracted.
Aside from backlight bleed, IPS panels do not handle blacks as well as newer technology and it tends to be more of a black blue that's sometimes a bit black violet. You've probably seen a device with a dark black painted bevel on any cheaper cellphone or screen display. Inside that bevel, is of course the iconic IPS monitor that stands out like a sore, glowy thumb that will never be anything more than a glowy black blue or black violent. Still, for everything else it still looks decent and you're mostly only reminded when you see another black screen.
They tend to lose detail in black-heavy and darker scenes, but it's still very consumable. The best way to describe a more quality IPS experience is like looking at the night sky in a city with a bit of light pollution originating from all four corners vs. a dark midnight sky. If you see any purely black loading screen you will be reminded: "I have an IPS panel with varying degrees of sloppy, uneven backlights." But if you're watching a sitcom in colourful scenes, it looks good and you probably wont think twice. Panel quality is huge for the degree of sloppiness. With the current prices, there's not much of a price difference between a low-quality IPS vs. a high one, so go with the high one (like I said, Dell and Acers are often great - but I'm sure it's a bit model dependent). With super dark media in a super dark room, an IPS tends to have uneven corner spotlights that are dependent on viewing angles dependent (usually it's a gray-beige or bluish-white light tone and you probably will see the effect of both at the same time on black loading screens). Again, there is no "true black" with IPS screens. If you're watching something like an animated film that uses true blacks (which is why you often see OLED demo videos with animated movies), you can often see how much it impacts it. With a natural outdoors or colorful APEX scene it's more natural and it's often not noticeable.. until it really is.
You can see much of this effect very well if you search OLED vs. IPS. Albeit, you'll often see examples that are mildly exaggerated due to limitations of the camera itself, the effect on very large IPS screens that compound with viewing angles and look a lot more lumpy (let's say a 50" TV) . With a small 27" panel, you definitely get the uneven spotlight effect and dark purple/dark black blue effect - but it's a lot less "lumpy" than a 50" TV (and honestly, those aren't all that bad of an experience either and are totally still viewable).
So yes, even as someone who enjoys my IPS TVs/monitors paired with me AM5 4070 Ti Super, there's definitely a quality gap jumping up to OLED/LED that's quantifiable. I think we are well past the stage of creators developing specifical for IPS monitors.. so some media/games out there definitely are beginning to stash some worthwhile detail in black areas, so do keep that in mind. I've definitely ran across more content in the past several years where black level details do detract from the scene and assume that more and more creators/creative entities have made the jump themselves and are mastering their products using OLED/LED panels. Still they're the technology I usually recommend for the less tech savvy who just want a TV or monitor who care more about the $400+ and I've never gotten complaints - but they'd probably also agree that OLED/LED look better especially side-by-side. Next time around, I'll probably go OLED/LED, but I'd still have no problem 'maining' an IPS.
nivlark@reddit
The basic differences between panel technologies are worth understanding.
Online discourse about monitors gets into audiophile-level gatekeeping though, and a lot of it is rather subjective. So I would say go to a store where you can see a range of monitors displaying real content, and pick the one that looks good to you.
Haunting_Philosophy3@reddit
oled issues are things of a past already.
Stingray88@reddit
No they’re not. Burn in is still an issue if you’re largely using them with static elements. And sub-pixel layout issues are still a thing.
spookyd69@reddit
OLED gives best visual quality, the burn in issue is only in the older models, any new OLED monitor shouldn't have that problem anymore. But, the text clarity is OLED's weakness, they still couldn't fix it completely so if your work involves a lot of reading on screen I wouldn't recommend OLED. In that case just get any new IPS monitor, they're all pretty much the same given the same price range.
Stingray88@reddit
That’s not true, it still is highly dependent on the content you’re displaying. Even with the best new OLEDs if they’re displaying the same UI elements all the time, like particular applications you use for work for instance, you will experience burn in.
prank_mark@reddit
Mind you, "they" is Microsoft. Text clarity isn't an inherent issue of OLED. Almost all modern phones have OLED and text looks perfectly fine on them. The text clarity issue is because Microsoft refuses to update their software to accommodate different subpixel layouts. A third party tool like MacType solves this issue almost entirely.
The specific subpixel layout of certain OLED screens CAN contribute to the issue, but this isn't an inherent OLED issue. It's an issue of the subpixel layout that is used. And software can eliminate most of that.
spookyd69@reddit
If most other panels don't have this issue, it's an OLED issue. It's that simple. And not just Microsoft, Linux has this issue too. All the "fixes" you can find only make it a bit better, but the texts' edges are still a lot more blurry, colory than most panels.
prank_mark@reddit
But there are plenty of OLED panels without this issue. It's a subpixel layout and software issue.
f1rstx@reddit
I feel like people are underrating miniLEDs and highly overrating OLEDs. Good miniLED gives you 95% of OLED benefits for none of its drawbacks for much cheaper.
cha0ss0ldier@reddit
Not even that much cheaper anymore. You can get 240hz 1440p OLED for $350 brand new these days.
f1rstx@reddit
aren't those basicaly very outdated Gen1 panels?
cha0ss0ldier@reddit
No. Gen 3 QD-OLED
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/alienware-27-240hz-qd-oled-gaming-monitor-aw2726dm/apd/210-bvrc/monitors-monitor-accessories
Senator_Buttholeface@reddit
I actually just bought this exact model and I love it. The brightness complaints are a little overblown but my office is dark so it doesn't affect me. With 10% Dell discount and Chase cash back it came in under $300 shipped.
f1rstx@reddit
it's a good buy then
Haytham__@reddit
Everything TN, IPS, VA are older technologies that are pretty much end of life development wise. Current technologies are mini-LED, MicroLED and variants of OLED.
MiniLED monitors are just super small LEDs lighting an LCD panel like FALD does. Just with many more LEDS so more dimming zones. There is still lightbleed.
MicroLED are self-emitting LEDs, it's the next big thing supposed to overtake OLED when the technology is more mature.
OLED is also self-emitting, meaning every pixel can turn on and off. Also the fastest for gaming. QD-OLED is Samsungs variant, better colours but needs a darker room for best result. WOLED is LG. Higher contrast and better usable in well-lit rooms.
OLED has a non-standard subpixel layout that can cause noticable fringing if you use Office or text based applications.
You can Google the above to decide what monitor is best for you.
I've switched to OLED about 7 years ago and have had zero burn in across all my devices.
An4rchy48946@reddit
If you want top quality, QD-OLED for mid dark-dark room, WOLED for brighter rooms
I disagree with the whole “if you’re not spending $800 it’s garbage”. I bought my 4K OLED for $650 and it’s amazing quality.
Mini-LED is a second to OLED, it comes in either IPS or VA. They’re pretty great quality and they can be bright, which is good compared to OLED. People say they’re cheaper but I haven’t seen many that are crazy cheaper than some claim
Regular IPS is usually better for office work but a good IPS panel can be okay for gaming on a budget
Regular VA is probably better suited for gaming than IPS but I don’t think it’s bought too often because of other numerous disadvantages
That’s all that actually matters in my opinion. The “best” for you probably depends on the specs you actually want