New PC build waiting for Intel 1954 socket?
Posted by itsthewolfe@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 13 comments
I've been due for a CPU/Motherboard upgrade for a while. Still running a 10th gen i7 which is "fine" but definitely the bottleneck in my PC.
I'm holding out for the new 1954 socket later this year. I plan to buy one of the higher end SKU's, Core Ultra 9 equivalent.
We don't have much info yet, but how long can we expect Intel to support the new socket for? The LGA 1200 only got significant releases for about 2 years.
The current LGA 1851 will probably be nerfed once 1954 releases. But from what has been said, 1954 is spotted supposed to be the next big platform jump to be around for a while.
9okm@reddit
No clue.
aminy23@reddit
I upgraded from AM4 to LGA1851. I had done a high end build originally in 2020 with: * 5900X * 64GB DDR4-4000 @ 2000 MHz FCLK * B550-XE STRIX * Seagate 530 * Later RAID 5 of 3x Crucial T500
I sold my: * CPU - $200 * RAM - $250 * Motherboard - $125
I bought: * 250K - $230 * Z890 Aorus Master - $192 * 2x24GB DDR5-7000CL32 - $129 a year ago, OCs to 8800 Gear 2, I run it at 8466CL38 = sub-9ns first word latency
That also got me a bunch of bonus features like 10GBE, dual Thunderbolt, PCIe 5 support, WiFi 7, RAM fan, etc.
And so far the performance difference has baffled me. I didn't expect much from a CPU upgrade, but everything is so much snappier. Even subtle things like my Internet latency dropped substantially.
Now the wild cards are RAM today will be more expensive, but old parts today have higher resale value.
When next-Gen comes out - motherboards then will be more expensive and old parts today will have lower resale value.
I didn't need an upgrade, but I figured this was the right time for me where it would be cost-effective compared to future platforms that would be expensive.
Keep in mind i3/i5/i7/i9 and Ultra 3/5/7/9 is 95% marketing nonsense.
The best i9 CPUs for your motherboard won't keep up with the subsequent i5: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/3730vs3904vs4625/Intel-i9-10900K-vs-Intel-i9-11900K-vs-Intel-i5-12600KF
Likewise a cheaper Ultra 7 beats a more expensive Ultra 9 already: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/6296vs7114/Intel-Ultra-9-285K-vs-Intel-Ultra-7-270K-Plus
jbshell@reddit
Prob AM5 or wait til Nova.
XT-356@reddit
Two generations on average for Intel sockets.
itsthewolfe@reddit (OP)
Do you think 1954 will be a worthwhile upgrade (speculation)?
1851 was really just a refreshed 1700 to bridge into 1954 I think and all the advice was to skip it.
f1rstx@reddit
Core Ultra 250k and 270k already very good
itsthewolfe@reddit (OP)
Better than 14th gen, yes. But worth a whole platform upgrade that will be end of life soon, probably not I suspect.
I how to buy a motherboard at the beginning of a platform and upgrade at the end of the platform with a reasonable jump and not have to change my whole motherboard every time.
f1rstx@reddit
Why does it matter? Socket longevity isn't important - and i'm having AM5 cpu. You're siting on 10th gen did you even considered upgrading in last 5 years?
itsthewolfe@reddit (OP)
Socket longevity certainly is important. I've considered it and have upgraded to a higher end SKU. Most enthusiasts upgrade their CPU once or twice over the span of a motherboard. Having to upgrade your motherboard + socket every time anak is not only a pain but also more costly.
It's easier to stomach a $250-400 CPU upgrade between platforms, than a $600 upgrade every two years.
f1rstx@reddit
Thats a very small minority. Plus it only happened once wtih AM4 because first 2 generations were awful. With AM5 i simply don't see any reason to uprage mine 7700 to any Zen5 CPU - it already fully load my current 4070 GPU to 100% even with DLSS Performance at 1440p in AAA games, there is 0 gains with CPU upgrades before GPU upgrade.
majority of people using CPUs for 5+ years.
itsthewolfe@reddit (OP)
That's a fair view to good and I respect it. But just because you don't see a value in it doesn't mean plenty of others do.
Many people game in resolutions higher than 1440P or have multiple monitors. I for example, also use my computer for 3D CAD and simulation in aaddition to gaming.
Everyone has different needs. Your view applies to your needs and that's great, but it doesn't apply to everyone's.
XT-356@reddit
We won't know until it comes out. We can speculate all we want, but having concrete data beats out "what ifs".
ComprehensiveOil6890@reddit
We don't know anything about new sockets intel been radio silence since LGA 1851 refresh.