Still not understanding. Climate change was “irreversible” from when fossil fuels began to be used in earnest and which enabled human population to explode from 1 billion to 8.3 billion.
We never invented (nor was it possible) a process for removing GHG’s or removing the excess heat that GHG’s have caused and are causing to accumulate. Heat that will lead to our
demise.
The excess heat is melting ice sheets, shelves and glaciers, it’s warming and acidifying oceans and killing the bottom of the food chain. Heat that causes evaporation and gives rise to more water vapour and a positive feedback.
Excess heat that is now trapped until natural processes decide otherwise, is killing forests and soil and driving species extinctions.
Looking for blame and scapegoats is childish and totally naive. Human nature was never able to be altered, we are a product of evolution. Even our hubris that claimed we could engineer our way out of this predicament that we actually engineered ourselves into.
We don't need to alter human nature, we need to mitigate and not reward its worst effects. And human nature isn't to be a psychopath killer either. The united states has made it look like this, yet many people are actually kind and collaborative. blame can certainly be placed, but I agree generational is not the right one.
What do you think human nature is? I find the concept illusory and/or unhelpful. How can you separate what is nature, from what is a product of their environment, when the/an environment is essential and a human apart from it/one is a nonsensical concept. Isn’t everything we do natural, and a product of our nature?
I also find the concept illusory and unhelpful - but the common idea is that greed is human nature, and capitalism perfectly fits human nature by default. Obviously I hate this 'philosophy' and also hate when it is repeated.
This video by Acharya Prashant highlights a terrifying pivot in climate discourse: the move from "saving the future" to witnessing the "end of history."
He argues that because we have already breached the 1.5°C warming threshold, we have triggered irreversible feedback loops that will continue to emit carbon and degrade ecosystems even if human activity stopped today.
This is deeply relevant to r/collapse because it challenges the optimism of "net-zero" targets and suggests we are currently living through the final chapter of human history.
When the very generations we intended to warn might not even exist, how does our responsibility change?
Does this confirm that we have officially passed the point of no return?
The following submission statement was provided by /u/Big_Confusion6957:
This video by Acharya Prashant highlights a terrifying pivot in climate discourse: the move from "saving the future" to witnessing the "end of history."
He argues that because we have already breached the 1.5°C warming threshold, we have triggered irreversible feedback loops that will continue to emit carbon and degrade ecosystems even if human activity stopped today.
This is deeply relevant to r/collapse because it challenges the optimism of "net-zero" targets and suggests we are currently living through the final chapter of human history.
When the very generations we intended to warn might not even exist, how does our responsibility change?
Does this confirm that we have officially passed the point of no return?
Watch the full video: https://youtu.be/YsjrmLIGxyU?si=r9bXFu9TNQFilLpj
Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/1sw35so/climate_change_is_here/oicmjak/
Bandits101@reddit
Still not understanding. Climate change was “irreversible” from when fossil fuels began to be used in earnest and which enabled human population to explode from 1 billion to 8.3 billion.
We never invented (nor was it possible) a process for removing GHG’s or removing the excess heat that GHG’s have caused and are causing to accumulate. Heat that will lead to our demise.
The excess heat is melting ice sheets, shelves and glaciers, it’s warming and acidifying oceans and killing the bottom of the food chain. Heat that causes evaporation and gives rise to more water vapour and a positive feedback.
Excess heat that is now trapped until natural processes decide otherwise, is killing forests and soil and driving species extinctions.
Looking for blame and scapegoats is childish and totally naive. Human nature was never able to be altered, we are a product of evolution. Even our hubris that claimed we could engineer our way out of this predicament that we actually engineered ourselves into.
cabeep@reddit
We don't need to alter human nature, we need to mitigate and not reward its worst effects. And human nature isn't to be a psychopath killer either. The united states has made it look like this, yet many people are actually kind and collaborative. blame can certainly be placed, but I agree generational is not the right one.
EyesWide93@reddit
What do you think human nature is? I find the concept illusory and/or unhelpful. How can you separate what is nature, from what is a product of their environment, when the/an environment is essential and a human apart from it/one is a nonsensical concept. Isn’t everything we do natural, and a product of our nature?
Also I’m curious, which are the „worst effects“?
cabeep@reddit
I also find the concept illusory and unhelpful - but the common idea is that greed is human nature, and capitalism perfectly fits human nature by default. Obviously I hate this 'philosophy' and also hate when it is repeated.
Big_Confusion6957@reddit (OP)
This video by Acharya Prashant highlights a terrifying pivot in climate discourse: the move from "saving the future" to witnessing the "end of history."
He argues that because we have already breached the 1.5°C warming threshold, we have triggered irreversible feedback loops that will continue to emit carbon and degrade ecosystems even if human activity stopped today.
This is deeply relevant to r/collapse because it challenges the optimism of "net-zero" targets and suggests we are currently living through the final chapter of human history.
When the very generations we intended to warn might not even exist, how does our responsibility change?
Does this confirm that we have officially passed the point of no return?
LTPRWSG420@reddit
Project Hail Mary was a psyop to prepare us for what’s to come. The lady who sings karaoke in the film was warning us.
RichieLT@reddit
Just stop your crying
LTPRWSG420@reddit
“They tell me that the end is near, we gotta get away from here.”
Big_Confusion6957@reddit (OP)
All of nature and even the smallest events are constantly warning us at all moments, but we remain lost in our own bubbles and make believe stories.
Banananas__@reddit
It's very obvious to anyone paying attention that "net zero" is never going to happen. Also "net zero" was a bullshit metric all along anyway.
StatementBot@reddit
The following submission statement was provided by /u/Big_Confusion6957:
This video by Acharya Prashant highlights a terrifying pivot in climate discourse: the move from "saving the future" to witnessing the "end of history."
He argues that because we have already breached the 1.5°C warming threshold, we have triggered irreversible feedback loops that will continue to emit carbon and degrade ecosystems even if human activity stopped today.
This is deeply relevant to r/collapse because it challenges the optimism of "net-zero" targets and suggests we are currently living through the final chapter of human history.
When the very generations we intended to warn might not even exist, how does our responsibility change?
Does this confirm that we have officially passed the point of no return?
Watch the full video: https://youtu.be/YsjrmLIGxyU?si=r9bXFu9TNQFilLpj
Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/1sw35so/climate_change_is_here/oicmjak/