“I set fire to the rain… watched it pour as I touched your face” oooo she is mad… but those decisions have consequences (flash warning)
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Agent8699@reddit
Ooh … brutal editing! Savage!
Colder than Xena hunting down Caesar at any expanse, including her girlfriend being kidnapped, crucified, tricked into killing for the first time, traumatised, violated, raped and impregnated by a brutal god only to then try to repeatedly murder her newborn child!
summer_james2@reddit (OP)
Well thank you.
Not negating anything she went through. We all have paths we have to walk and that was hers. Yes, Xena’s hatred brought her to Britannia but Gabrielle had to choose to kill. She walked through that door on her own. She doesn’t get a pass. Just like other characters don’t get passes . They sometimes get tricked into doing things but they have to walk their own path and no one but them is responsible for their choices.
I love Gabrielle and I hate everything she went through just as I hate the sequence of events that Xena had to go through. But without drama we have no show. I just like to delve into that juicy aspects of it all and show them for the rawness of what they are. I love her flaws and Xena’s flaws. I showcase Xena’s as well. Just like in this edit I showcased Xena’s dark side in the beginning.
This was a major error on Gabrielle’s part and it’s part of her growth as a character.
Imagine if Gabrielle had to hear Xena’s screams as they were scalping her or skinning her alive….oo I don’t think she would have gotten over that one.
Agent8699@reddit
Oh, I absolutely agree!
I just wish the show hadn’t watered down Gabrielle’s reasons to “irrationally jealous of Xena’s ex-girlfriend”.
And I also wish that the show wasn’t so completely devoted to proving Xena to be right and infallible the vast majority of the time, with Gabrielle’s mystical pregnancy being ignored in season 5, before we finally got some kind of acknowledgment from Xena in The Abyss in season 6.
I mean, I know Xena’s no good with words, but 27+ years is a long time for Gabrielle to wait for an acknowledgment of her suffering. It will probably be another 30 years before she gets an actual apology from Xena’s ghost! 👻
summer_james2@reddit (OP)
lol ahhh the warrior princess is actually very good with words. All the words of love she is constantly saying to Gabrielle. “You’re my source Gabrielle” “the stone is still under there” “our friendship binds us closer than blood ever could” “if I only had thirty seconds to live” “you have my life meaning and joy , you will be apart of me forever” I could go on for days with how good she is with words. She isn’t technically good with emotions. She bottles up. She is a complex character with many flaws. But that’s what makes her a great character.
I think the pain from solans death made it hard for her to come to terms with the actual pain that Gabrielle had been experiencing. Which I think that’s where her song comes into play. Not only is she apologizing for lying about Ming tien.. she is apologizing for it all. She knows that without her hatred of Caesar it would not have all started. Per Steve Sears that is how they wrote that song from Xena … apologizing for it all.
There should have been an actual discussion between the two of them detailing all their wrongs against each other and the pain they caused each other. No one party is right or wrong here. Together they caused the storm and together they got out of it.
Firm_Introduction937@reddit
Finally!!!!! Yes it sucks for gabs to hear those words but come on it almost got Xena killed! Actions have consequences.
NoifenF@reddit
Gabs not realising that although Xena couldn’t refuse this course even for her, Xena would have burned the world down to protect her if it was needed.
SakuraTacos@reddit
Hell has no fury like a woman scorned and oof did it piss Gabrielle off when Xena said there was someone she cared about more to risk her friendship with Gabrielle and everything they built. Every time I get mad when Gabrielle pops up from under those covers, I remember how Xena told her that shit 👏🏼right after👏🏼 they got back from Britannia, too
PS I’ve been singing the words to this song wrong for almost 15 years and only just realized that from this vid lol
summer_james2@reddit (OP)
Yeah. But words she said may sting but should result in her imprisonment, torture, and almost execution by scalping and skinning alive.
SakuraTacos@reddit
No yeah, Gabrielle definitely should’ve minded her business with that matter, she had no idea the absolute history behind Xena’s mission in Chin. But with more rewatches, I give Gab so much more grace than I did the first time. Poor thing was a dangerous mix of naive and also supremely confident that she knows best for Xena (thanks to Xena)
summer_james2@reddit (OP)
She wasn’t trying to do what was best for Xena. Gabrielle. was furious and wanted her to hurt. She lied to Xena saying it was her “reverence for life” Gabrielle literally says in this edit and in “forget me not” the true motivation behind betraying Xena. She wanted Xena punished for “loving someone else” which alll Xena was going to do was kill this guy and hopefully make it out alive and find Gabrielle after.
SakuraTacos@reddit
Gabrielle is only older by like a year or two, if that, than Xena was when she sabotaged everything Borias and Lao Ma were trying to build because of her jealousy and hatred. Xena learned to control that part of her and, after learning her lesson the hard way by seeing Xena almost executed, so did Gabrielle
Well except for like a little bit of betrayal yet to be revealed a few eps from now. But after that, definitely 100% betrayal-free!
summer_james2@reddit (OP)
So because she is young she is justified in her betrayal and that being led to Xena being tortured and almost being scalped and flayed is okay? And that Gabrielle even telling you that she wants Xena to hurt is justified?
SakuraTacos@reddit
Dang friend where is this vitriol towards Gabrielle coming from lol Xena wouldn’t want her crucified for immature and misguided actions that both she and Ares played parts in
Gabrielle has just gotten back home after being cruelly targeted and manipulated by a cult, attacked, being violently rapidly pregnant and giving birth, being hunted down by her best friend in a foreign country, and forced to send her baby down a river with no idea if she’s sending her off to safety or death
So Gabrielle gets back home and immediately Xena’s like “I have to commit a murder because someone I love takes precedence over you” and Gabrielle, while wounded, was really and truly about to just accept that punch to the gut. Until Ares shows up and does his whole “That sucks. You’re gonna take that from her? I could help you do something” routine and Gabrielle, after the aforementioned Britannia events, is exceptionally receptive to his manipulations
And if I give Xena grace for the Gab Drag in Bitter Suite, considering she was keeping herself away from Gabrielle until Ares shows up and pulls the same thing in her vulnerable state, I gotta forgive Gabrielle too
summer_james2@reddit (OP)
Speaking of gabdrag I think you missed the edit I did of that….🫣😬maybe not
SakuraTacos@reddit
Was it recent? I went back a lil bit (gave me an excuse to review your edit filmography, my favorite pastime) but I’m not sure which one you mean
Proof I’m a big fan. Even if I don’t comment, I like every one of your wonderful posts 🤩 lol
summer_james2@reddit (OP)
Omg I love this!!! You are the best!! ❤️❤️❤️thank you so much
SakuraTacos@reddit
Ah thanks, I found the vid! I remember that one, I loved it. I don’t always have constructive or interesting thoughts to add beyond “I watched this 17 times” lmao but I’m pretty sure I watched that one 17 times….18 now
Your angsty edits fuel my Scorpio soul, youre the best! 😊🩷
summer_james2@reddit (OP)
And I don’t want Gabrielle crucified either… they both have been crucified enough…. And It’s not hatred towards Gabrielle. But a lot of people put hate on Xena for things she does but never actually blame Gabrielle for anything she does and she gets a pass. They both are wrong in their actions and they both should get the same blame game. I don’t forgive Xena for the gabdrag. She was wrong. Yes ares manipulated them both but like Xena says “they have to walk through” they chose their actions they have the consequences. I love Gabrielle and i love Xena. lol I think I have proven that with my sweet Xenagab edits.
SakuraTacos@reddit
You’ve definitely proven you love them. Let’s put all this hurt and betrayal behind us
https://i.redd.it/8h80cf0vahxg1.gif
🎶I'm sorry, please help me, forgive me Don't hate me, don't leave me, forgive me🎶
summer_james2@reddit (OP)
I can’t I have more edits to make haha!
😬😬😬😬
summer_james2@reddit (OP)
And without the drama we have no show 🤦🏼♀️
summer_james2@reddit (OP)
I only give her grace for not knowing the true extent of the mission … but after hearing the true motives behind her actions I don’t have the grace for that. She was naive in thinking she could talk her way out of it. Again i can only grant her a small amount grace.