Looking for advice: Leaving MSP after ~10 years, evaluating toolsets (NinjaOne vs Kaseya vs ManageEngine)
Posted by Itsjoeyguti@reddit | sysadmin | View on Reddit | 5 comments
Hey all looking for some real-world input from folks who’ve been down this road.
Long story short: our org was with an MSP for close to a decade. About 2 years ago we brought IT back in-house, but due to contract terms we’ve still been tied to their toolset. That contract finally ends this October, and we’re planning a full break. I'm was a sys admin for a year and a half but got promoted to IT Manager 2 months. Using MSP toolset was hard because we never really had comoplete ownership, so I could maybe do 70% but always had to reach out to them.
We’re a Microsoft 365 E3 shop with \~350 active users and a small internal IT team (4). Right now the MSP stack includes:
- N-able RMM- Great tool, robust and we didnt have ownership or admin rights for basic things liek repositories
- Dropsuite (M365 backups – Exchange, SharePoint, OneDrive)
- Axcient (local + cloud backup) 11Tb but only using 5tb
- Avanan (email security — which I actually like a lot)
- Field Effect (security/SOC)- mostly helps with uaps/vpn notis
- ConnectWise Manage- used for tickets..hate it
- IT Glue - data is mostly outdated in it
- Security awareness training platform- Infirma- sucks so bad
- Quick PASS- really like product
We’re paying $120K+ annually just for the toolset + 20k access to Datto for cloud licensing for switches/aps (not even heavy support anymore), which feels pretty steep given we’re doing most of the work internally at this point.
What we’re evaluating:
- NinjaOne → \~$48K/year (12-month term)
- Kaseya 360 → \~$65K/year (36-month term)
- ManageEngine → meeting with them this week
Context that might matter:
- We’re already a Kaseya/Datto shop on the networking side ( inherited 60 switches, 100 APs, plus Spanning for Salesforce backup)
- I’ve used Kaseya (VSA 9) + ConnectWise in the past from my MSP days
- We’re trying to fully bring everything in-house, not just swap MSPs
- I do like a layered security approach (Defender + Avanan vs relying on a single tool)
Where I’m at right now:
I’m leaning slightly toward Kaseya just because:
- We already have some of their ecosystem in place
- “Single pane of glass” is appealing
…but the 36-month contract makes me nervous, and I’ve seen enough to know lock-in can hurt later.
NinjaOne seems:
- Way more flexible
- Cleaner pricing
- Easier to scale
…but obviously doesn’t have the same “all-in-one ecosystem” approach.
What I’m trying to figure out:
- Has anyone here fully exited an MSP and rebuilt their stack internally?
- How do NinjaOne / Kaseya / ManageEngine actually compare in day-to-day use?
- Any gotchas with Kaseya contracts or pricing creep over time?
- For those using NinjaOne — what are you pairing it with for:
- Backup
- Security (MDR/SOC)
- Documentation
- Is the “single pane of glass” from Kaseya actually worth it… or more marketing than reality?
- Also none of these have email security, is it ok to have defender only. I like the added Layer of 2 filters bc it's prevent quite a few things from entering out enviroment.
Goal:
We’re trying to replace what we have today without overbuying, keep flexibility, and avoid getting locked into something we regret in 2–3 years.
Would really appreciate any pros/cons, frustrations, or “wish I knew this earlier” advice.
Thanks in advance 🙏
renegaderelish@reddit
Lmao. Just ask the AI that shat this out.
Itsjoeyguti@reddit (OP)
copilot ...
jonblackgg@reddit
Yep. Kind of tired of IT Managers who drop into this sub and dump a novel long exposition on their problems hoping for someone to provide free fixes/advice.
If you don't have the time to search or do your own research, go pay a consultant lol.
Ad3t0@reddit
For me when working with MSP customers I’ve had really good results with TacticalRMM. It can be self hosted freely or they offer hosting for it too. It’s always done whatever I’ve needed and it’s automation checks a tasks systems have been amazing for automating specific checks and running scheduled scripts.
To fill all the other gaps RMM’s do not do well, I have been working to develop my own policy management, patch management, vulnerability detection and compliance evaluation tool. Currently my team is offering it in an open beta, it’s called TridentStack Control and you can access it at https://tridentstack.com. We’ve published it in a beta so we can get some feedback while we keep it completely free for now. It offers extensive deployment automation options and in relation to patching, it specifically excels beyond others at deploying cross generation upgrades such as Windows 10 to 11 and Windows 11 feature updates of any version to any higher version. Additionally we have been ingesting its logs into our SIEM/SOAR stack for consolidated logging and orchestrated automation.
Totally free if you would like to check it out! We will always make sure to keep our initial beta users in mind as we grow beyond.
ARJeepGuy123@reddit
Very happy with on prem manage engine, we use it and intune to manage ~200 workstations