Hello from Europe
Posted by K3lmiiiiiiii@reddit | flying | View on Reddit | 14 comments
First a little bit about my situatuon, i am from the baltics, estonia, we have state funded aviation academy, which upon complition gives you cpl and frozen atpl license, its totally free for me, but the catch is that you only get 215 flight hours and a degree in physics. A friend of my family has also went there, he now works in norwegian air, but he had to pay 169000€ for participating in cadett programme of finnair, well, i dont have that kind of money, max what i can get is 10-20k, so my question is- is it even worth trying right now? I can choose between the fligh degree or electrical engineering one. I like em both, but the money barrier to enter the commercial flights is too much, and i cant get a loan bigger than 6000€ for studying. And whyle at it, how bad or food is the pilot lifestyle?
blueBaggins1@reddit
So you get a free ATP but you’re not sure its worth because you only get 215 hours??? correct me if I’m wrong but you dont need a crazy amount of hours in Europe to get hired at the airlines. So with that being said Im thoroughly confused as to the point of this post … To put it into perspective i just paid wround $15k out of my pocket for a PPL im now about about 175 hours and its easily cost me around $30k - $35k.
K3lmiiiiiiii@reddit (OP)
Nah, i just want to know, if i have to pay money or is there other way to get a job. If i have to pay, ik not going to aviation, thats it
CryptographerHuge682@reddit
Bro I paid my ATPL integrated course and go out to the job market with 200 h approx, that one that you have is a banger
EliteEthos@reddit
But you said it was “totally free for me”…
Is it only free if you get hired first?
K3lmiiiiiiii@reddit (OP)
No, its like a uni, so studying there is free. But you only get 215 h pf flight time, and to get hired, you may need to participate in a cadett programme
EliteEthos@reddit
But you’re getting a huge large portion of for free… that’s still a good thing, right?
minfremi@reddit
“CFI” is an American concept.
EliteEthos@reddit
I’m confused. Is it free or 169k?
If it’s free for you, why the money concern?
K3lmiiiiiiii@reddit (OP)
The friend lf the family couldnt get hired by the major airline and paid to get into cadett programme in finnair, that was 169k, the academy was free for him
OracleofFl@reddit
So, in addition to the government academy, he had to join the cadet program to get hired by Norwegian because the government academy wasn't providing enough hours of flight time?
Apprehensive_Cost937@reddit
That's more than enough to get an airline job in Europe. If you can get someone to pay for your training, at zero cost to you, take it.
Only get into flying if you really like it. If you like flying, it's all worth it - lifestyle varies a lot based on the specific airline and the type of flying you do (low cost point-to-point, network airline hub-to-outstation, night cargo, long haul, etc.). If you don't like flying, it's not really worth it, as the downsides of the job (asocial hours, first job or two might be away from your home country, time away from home, etc.) will outweigh the positives for a lot of people.
K3lmiiiiiiii@reddit (OP)
I like it, but lets put it that way, how many days a week will i be not home if for example i go to work in wizz air( they started to hire people from my academy recently). And yes, the academy is state fully state funded, so absolutely free for me
Apprehensive_Cost937@reddit
With low cost carriers, expect to be home most nights. I think they operate on a 5/4 or a 6/4 roster (depending on base - meaning you work 5 or 6 days in a row, followed by 4 days off), or some sort of a random roster, but someone working for them might give you a more accurate answer.
rFlyingTower@reddit
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First a little bit about my situatuon, i am from the baltics, estonia, we have state funded aviation academy, which upon complition gives you cpl and frozen atpl license, its totally free for me, but the catch is that you only get 215 flight hours and a degree in physics. A friend of my family has also went there, he now works in norwegian air, but he had to pay 169000€ for participating in cadett programme of finnair, well, i dont have that kind of money, max what i can get is 10-20k, so my question is- is it even worth trying right now? I can choose between the fligh degree or electrical engineering one. I like em both, but the money barrier to enter the commercial flights is too much, and i cant get a loan bigger than 6000€ for studying. And whyle at it, how bad or food is the pilot lifestyle?
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