Someone doesn't remember the ol paper log days. Yes the ability to bend the rules was nice when it worked in your advantage. But not so nice when the company was pushing on you.
Have there been days I wished I could have an extra hour or two? Yes. There's been a lot more days I wished I could've stopped an hour or two before I had to too.
it was 70 hrs allowed for 7 days a week. you could do 10 hrs a day, but any on duty not driving time counted against you 10 hrs. so you had to count your pretrip and post trip and any dock time, but it was paper log so you could fudge a bit if you ran one log book. it reset at the end of 7 days, no hrs of reset. so you concentrated on hrs per day and kept your miles a little under 500 per day. 34 hr resets didnt start till 2003.
everybody is different my guy. I know drivers who CHOOSE to only drive 8 hours a day, some 6. Everyone is different, the "government" can't just cater to YOU and how you want to do this.
completely misrepresenting everything intentionally for clicks. These rules are written in blood and are to protect others on the street, not truckers. That being said, I already work 60 hour weeks legally, I am not interested in being asked to work more by dispatch just because its legal to do so. Not until they pay truckers overtime at least.
My resolution personally is have a form that can be filled by the driver, that will basically read āI am of sound mind, and want to use my 14 hours as drive timeā. It has to be filled out daily, and it is a $100k fine to companies that are caught trying to coerce or force you into using it to make āgood timeā.
Anything that can be used to have the driver work longer will allow the company to make it the expectation. We already, on average, work about twice the hours of the average American worker, we shouldn't be wanting anything that extends that even more, especially without massive amounts of compensation.
Considering that similar fines exist for coercion in other contexts that are basically never handed out, forgive me for believing that it's still not a good idea.
The real problems are the drivers that want to work 14 hour shifts even though they couldnt sleep at all the previous night, but feel obligated to work 14 hours to pay for whatever overpriced garbage they bought but cant afford.
If you wanna drive more than 11 hours in a day then get a job in the oilfield or buy a truck that can run paper. It sucks ass and nobody should be doing more than 12 at the absolute most, and if 720 miles a day ain't enough then you need to go get your pilots license or buy better tires.
if i am to believe what other drivers tell me, there are many companies in my region and kind of trucking work that.....
"encourage" all their drivers to cook the books, give them more than one eld account and would like them to run 18-20 hours a day, sleep 6 hours in the truck, 5 days a week.
the company i work for runs all kinds of product, but it seems we just cant compete with on or two products in particular in the greater area.....only getting short runs of this product 2-3 hours one way, and only in our state.
There has been a bill written to pay truckers overtime. No one has the balls to put it for a vote. Between the mega carriers and shippers and receivers buying politicians it probably will never see the light of day.
What the stats show is that there were strong correlates to the decline of accidents by truckers. Like less congestion on the road for expansion, lower speeds for trucks, technology improving trucks, etc. And DOT drive time isn't likely one of them. In fact the most dangerous hour for drivers is the 10th or 11th for drive time.... do you know why?
Cuz its the one they feel most rushed. There's a reason why there's a major shortage in thr trucking industry. Far too much unnecessary regulation for those who just wants to work. There's other ways to solve the problem
If you're still driving in your 11th hour and you don't have a guaranteed parking solution set up already, you're an idiot. You're supposed to already be looking for parking by the 2hrs remaining mark at the latest, in addition to having started your day early enough that you're not looking for parking during peak hours.
Shit isn't hard to manage your clock properly. Figuring that out is like first month stuff if not when you're with your mentor.
It doesn't matter how long or little your drive. There's never enough parking spaces. That literally.proves MY point. That DOT forces people to rush in a small window of no parking spaces.
Yeah blame people for theyre start time. Cant imagine if everyone started at the same.time you did. More parking spaces lol Genius logic.
Uh...no. Simple trip planning eliminates any rushing at the 11th hour. It's a basic skill taught at any school. You should have your A,B, and C parking options already in mind before you even pick up the load.
It's almost as if there aren't enough parking spaces for everyone. Especially in a crunched time that everyone's usually starting around the same.time and have a small.window to park.....sp interesting how things work
Yep questioning made up nonsense is made up nonsense lol
Seriously let's say all truckers performed their trips with parking spaces. And there were endless parking spaces for all. Wtf does this have to do with DOT drive time regulation?
I argued there's little no evidence to prove that it keeps people from wrecking (in favt possibly opposite). And you go "parking spots" lol. Wow great argument lol
Trump who campaingned on āLow fuel prices and no new wars!ā
That Trump?
Ummmm, ok.
Warm up
He met his second wife while cheating on his first and met his third wife cheating on the second. Somewhere in there he paid hush money to a porn star who called his dong mushroom shaped.
His third wife is an illegal immigrant and trump hosted the citizenship ceremony for her parents at the White House.
New York banned him from running any charity because he stole the money.
He ran a NYC newspaper ad accusing people of murder except, oooopise he name the wrong people.
Just worth pointing out this guy might not be full MAGA. "The Big Yahu" refers to Netanyahu. Implying he disapproves of Israel and believes they are partially/fully to blame for any government decision they dont like. Many MAGA types are still very pro Israel, save for the anti Trump grifter Maga types, but. That's a whole rabbit hole.
Not saying one way or the other anything else on the matter, just pointing that one out as food for thought
Itās definitely a double edged sword. Because when youāre actually tired the company will say hey thatās nice buddy but you better keep driving otherwise ya fired.
Yeah, I donāt know about you, but Iām cool at 14 hours. Sounds like you want companies to start pushing drivers into 16 and 18 hour days. You can have all that.
The law isn't written for super truckers who feel like they can just drive forever. The law is written to stop companies from forcing you to drive way past what would be safe for the average person. Those clock times aren't just numbers someone pulled out of their asses, they are based on research about how mental function begins to decline after a certain number of hours of activity, and how much rest it takes to recover.
I will always support truckers getting the most $ they can. The fact we dont get OT is the biggest scam ever anyways. "It would be to expensive on the economy" i'm hauling a load worth $100k+ but you cant pay me a few hundred more on it for OT or it breaks the economy? "It would be to hard to manage." It wouldnt, by law make companies have to keep a certain amount of their shipping budget in escrow for such loads, they cant stipulate 'straight time only', and make an ELOG synch system that validates i've actually worked more than 40 hours. Shit isnt hard if we all stood together, but ya'll wont.
Itās perfectly safe to drive 20 hours a day and it should be up to the individual to determine how long they should drive because it couldnāt possibly harm anybody else. Im glad there are no laws about streaming and driving as well.
Sadly itās a one fits all situation. Because you might push 1 extra hour means someone else has pushed an extra countless then causes an accident. Itās a simple fix for a large issue in the industry.
While I agree with him and also hate the control the government has, I do understand why HOS exists. It's always someone who will ruin it for everyone else
Fuck this dude. If he wanted ot he could be a framer or plumber.Ā Gmfuck him hard fuck him often.Ā Thank goodness for the government so I dont have to worry about this fucker killing my family
What I hate is the 70 hour clock. Just let me live by the other 3 clocks and I'm fine. I've been out for a couple months this trip and finally ended up having to do a 34 reset. Today I only had 4 hours left I could drive, I don't start getting hours back till tomorrow night. I get the other clocks, because there are dipshits that won't just stop because they're tired.
The Hours of Service are there to prevent the *Companies" from abusing the drivers.
So, your tired of the "Gubment" telling you your tired, huh? Alright. Poof. HOS is gone. Sweet. Drive on, boy.
Oh wait... you got FIRED because you had to sleep after being forced to run a 36 hour straight run because the conpany undercut their competitors by promising it be there yesterday?! And now YOU are responsible for cashing those checks the COMPANY MADE?! NO WAY!
Man.... To bad there isint a rule or something that said you had to be able to sleep every day. Whew boy what a difference that would make!
I feel like alot of people dont like these rules cause it affects their paychecks. Cents per mile or by pay by load. If you were payed what you should be paid then this stuff wouldn't even bother you.
Nobody is saying you are "tired". Not even the government. Your just tripping over the hours of service and you had to be an idiot making a video about this while driving a semi truck.
Hell naw. My last employer had me working 13 hours ever damn day. If you let some companies, they will work you to the Bone. That's who those rules are for
I don't agree with him. I'm from Mexico, where there's no DOT, OOS, weight stations, etc. Free for all type shit. It's normalized to do a 35 h trip without stopping for proper rest because if you don't make it on time they won't pay you. So a lot of drivers do coke just not to fall sleep at the wheel. I'm glad I'm capped at 14 h/70h on duty time. It's tiring and hard enough to even find the time to take a shit I don't want to drive even more.
Back when I was running, an old driver said to me that all of the rules and regs on big trucking that drivers complain so hard about nowadays are truckers own fault...In the 60's-70's there were almost no regs and although there was really big money to be made then, there were also tons of wrecks and dead people...Badly maintained rigs losing control and killing people...Driver's trying to run non-stop cross country on speed, falling asleep and killing people, Drivers rolling out of truck stops and going down the highway drunk asf and killing people. Drivers with 3-4 logbooks and 5-6 driver's licenses (Suspended license? Not today lol!). According to him we brought all this sh*t on ourselves.
It's so stupid when people try to oversimplify this shit. "I'm not tired" okay cool, that's you, get out of the truck and do something?
I have days where I feel like I could easily drive an extra couple hours, but I also have days where I'm glad the clock won't let me go anymore, and you know a company would push you further than you're comfortable.
Bro we have WAY too many deaths due to fatigue to think weāre not gonna have some oversight. I think what needs to go is pay by mile. It incentivizes people to work tired.
This guy is an idiot with absolutely zero understanding of basic economics. If you removed all the hours of service regulations, congratulations now you have super truckers working 20 hours per day and you have to work 20 hours per day just to keep making the same amount of money.
Professional aircraft pilots have the same deal, & share roughly the same sentiment. It's all too easy to forget, but "Government says I'm tired" is a rule written in blood.
At least it prevents the company from overworking you. Well, in theory.
I can't believe how much bitching and moaning I hear from overworked underpaid drivers about hos. Why would you be mad you are only "allowed"to work 70 hours a week for minimum wage. How about being mad you aren't being fairly paid so you have to work more than 40 hours or whatever arbitrary number? This idiot needs to learn how to manage his clock in any case.
We used to be able to sit out rush hour traffic, but now with the bogus 14 hour rule an e logs it's impossible. Tell me how that's safer for anyone. The government lies, and elds were never about safety. They gave control to greedy fucking truck owners. 3.5 million miles on paper without an accident, and bought my glider to go back to paper. No 9 to 5 college kid is going to tell me when I need sleep.
The point is to make big carriers squeeze out owner-operators and smaller carriers who can't just "repower" a load to the nearest driver to finish the trip. Blame the lobbyist. It's not about safety and health. It's about money. It's about serving the few who have it, while the rest chase cheese. That's capitalism for you. 'Murica! š š¦
He's an idiot. There is endless medical evidence behind the hours of service limitations. I don't care what he thinks or how he feels the reality is that if you've been working 14 hours or on duty 14 hours you are tired and not fit to drive anymore.
The hours of service exist because of idiots like him. He's the kind of guy to have six beers and then be like, "I'm fine to drive!".
All this is, is playing the victim. Yes, the world is a hell of a lot harder right now, and yes, the wealth gap is it's the worst since the Gilded Era.Ā
That does not mean you should blame others for your circumstances and then just lay down and flail. That's something we all learned to stop doing when we were five.Ā
Also, I work for a company, and they'll happily let you work 70-hour weeks. I've done it. The money was great, but it's a terrible idea. You get so stupid and so tired at the end of the week. I don't care how voluntary it is. People should not be allowed to do that when their job poses a risk to themselves or others.Ā
government is a tool. the people holding such a tool it dictate what to do with it. it benefits the people who run the trucking companies to hold us to an arbitrary schedule. we can do better but we have to be in control
Skogbeorn@reddit
Reddit is the wrong place to say anything bad about our glorious overlords.
dz1n3@reddit
Someone doesn't remember the ol paper log days. Yes the ability to bend the rules was nice when it worked in your advantage. But not so nice when the company was pushing on you.
floydguitarist@reddit
1st time?
AgapeAnus@reddit
Have there been days I wished I could have an extra hour or two? Yes. There's been a lot more days I wished I could've stopped an hour or two before I had to too.
Fit_Sea7511@reddit
Totoo š
WarmWriter1542@reddit
True š
rawfuelinjection@reddit
Totally agree, the guy in the video however is tired as fuck, he forgot how to properly hold the steering wheel, he's a dumb ass
WubbaWubbaBoingBoing@reddit
lol, he would be doing cart wheels in his cab if he had to drive back when it was the 7/70 rules and it was the double nickel speed limit. lmao.
xoutlawtrucker@reddit
8/10/70 is all I remember
WubbaWubbaBoingBoing@reddit
it was 70 hrs allowed for 7 days a week. you could do 10 hrs a day, but any on duty not driving time counted against you 10 hrs. so you had to count your pretrip and post trip and any dock time, but it was paper log so you could fudge a bit if you ran one log book. it reset at the end of 7 days, no hrs of reset. so you concentrated on hrs per day and kept your miles a little under 500 per day. 34 hr resets didnt start till 2003.
xoutlawtrucker@reddit
I meant it used to be drive for 10 and rest for 8. Now its 11/10
Shyjuan@reddit
everybody is different my guy. I know drivers who CHOOSE to only drive 8 hours a day, some 6. Everyone is different, the "government" can't just cater to YOU and how you want to do this.
Overall_Reputation83@reddit
completely misrepresenting everything intentionally for clicks. These rules are written in blood and are to protect others on the street, not truckers. That being said, I already work 60 hour weeks legally, I am not interested in being asked to work more by dispatch just because its legal to do so. Not until they pay truckers overtime at least.
Ok-Bar5260@reddit
My resolution personally is have a form that can be filled by the driver, that will basically read āI am of sound mind, and want to use my 14 hours as drive timeā. It has to be filled out daily, and it is a $100k fine to companies that are caught trying to coerce or force you into using it to make āgood timeā.
robexib@reddit
Anything that can be used to have the driver work longer will allow the company to make it the expectation. We already, on average, work about twice the hours of the average American worker, we shouldn't be wanting anything that extends that even more, especially without massive amounts of compensation.
Ok-Bar5260@reddit
Like I said, FMCSA reinforces safety with a $100,000 fine to the company if they coerce/force you into it.
robexib@reddit
Considering that similar fines exist for coercion in other contexts that are basically never handed out, forgive me for believing that it's still not a good idea.
Overall_Reputation83@reddit
The real problems are the drivers that want to work 14 hour shifts even though they couldnt sleep at all the previous night, but feel obligated to work 14 hours to pay for whatever overpriced garbage they bought but cant afford.
Ok-Bar5260@reddit
Agreed, but even if they only roll the 11 hours of drive time, the safety issue didnāt change of them not sleeping
RoadWarrior93@reddit
Laws created by college students that never drove a truck.
GoodGoodGoody@reddit
Show us any college āstudentā who created any law.
Ever.
robexib@reddit
Literally everyone in Congress has a college degree. It's a defacto requirement.
AgapeAnus@reddit
If you wanna drive more than 11 hours in a day then get a job in the oilfield or buy a truck that can run paper. It sucks ass and nobody should be doing more than 12 at the absolute most, and if 720 miles a day ain't enough then you need to go get your pilots license or buy better tires.
Overall_Reputation83@reddit
Don't need to drive a truck to read reports about drivers falling asleep and killing people to be fair.
Efficient_Maybe_1086@reddit
theyāre also there to protect truckers. do you want to compete with cheap exploited immigrants working 18hr shifts? you canāt compete.
mctwiddle@reddit
if i am to believe what other drivers tell me, there are many companies in my region and kind of trucking work that.....
"encourage" all their drivers to cook the books, give them more than one eld account and would like them to run 18-20 hours a day, sleep 6 hours in the truck, 5 days a week.
the company i work for runs all kinds of product, but it seems we just cant compete with on or two products in particular in the greater area.....only getting short runs of this product 2-3 hours one way, and only in our state.
clindh@reddit
Bingo
Occams_RZR900@reddit
News flash, you already are. Ghost drivers, multiple logs, etc are common place with shady carriers hiring cheap, mostly illegal, drivers.
Fasting_Monster@reddit
There has been a bill written to pay truckers overtime. No one has the balls to put it for a vote. Between the mega carriers and shippers and receivers buying politicians it probably will never see the light of day.
Overall_Reputation83@reddit
i know what you're talking about. I've written emails about it. I'm hoping for the best.
CrwnViic@reddit
That's what they say, but that's not the truth.
Friendly_Property840@reddit
I agree
-Mikey2Toes@reddit
Donāt agreeā¦ just a whiney truck driver
Not-Ed-Sheeran@reddit
What the stats show is that there were strong correlates to the decline of accidents by truckers. Like less congestion on the road for expansion, lower speeds for trucks, technology improving trucks, etc. And DOT drive time isn't likely one of them. In fact the most dangerous hour for drivers is the 10th or 11th for drive time.... do you know why?
Cuz its the one they feel most rushed. There's a reason why there's a major shortage in thr trucking industry. Far too much unnecessary regulation for those who just wants to work. There's other ways to solve the problem
AgapeAnus@reddit
If you're still driving in your 11th hour and you don't have a guaranteed parking solution set up already, you're an idiot. You're supposed to already be looking for parking by the 2hrs remaining mark at the latest, in addition to having started your day early enough that you're not looking for parking during peak hours.
Shit isn't hard to manage your clock properly. Figuring that out is like first month stuff if not when you're with your mentor.
Not-Ed-Sheeran@reddit
It doesn't matter how long or little your drive. There's never enough parking spaces. That literally.proves MY point. That DOT forces people to rush in a small window of no parking spaces.
Yeah blame people for theyre start time. Cant imagine if everyone started at the same.time you did. More parking spaces lol Genius logic.
Dragex11@reddit
There's plenty of parking if you end your day early enough (assuming you're not in the northeast).
marcmayhem@reddit
Uh...no. Simple trip planning eliminates any rushing at the 11th hour. It's a basic skill taught at any school. You should have your A,B, and C parking options already in mind before you even pick up the load.
Not-Ed-Sheeran@reddit
It's almost as if there aren't enough parking spaces for everyone. Especially in a crunched time that everyone's usually starting around the same.time and have a small.window to park.....sp interesting how things work
Unbelievable
marcmayhem@reddit
Get out of here. There are plenty of parking options. Not everyone is starting at the same time. Stop making up nonsense.
Not-Ed-Sheeran@reddit
Yep questioning made up nonsense is made up nonsense lol
Seriously let's say all truckers performed their trips with parking spaces. And there were endless parking spaces for all. Wtf does this have to do with DOT drive time regulation? I argued there's little no evidence to prove that it keeps people from wrecking (in favt possibly opposite). And you go "parking spots" lol. Wow great argument lol
GoodGoodGoody@reddit
DA DAM GUBERMENT!
MAGA suddenly canāt complain about sky-high fuel prices becauseā¦ reasonsā¦ soooo, letās find something else. Today itās drive time.
Cool. How come Trump didnāt change it 2017-20 or 2025-present to make yāall happy?
bigolchimneypipe@reddit
Oh good I was hoping somebody would bring up trump.
GoodGoodGoody@reddit
Dunno what to say, I was here 2019-24 and and it was Biden this! and Biden that!
I just assumed yāall liked talking about presidents and fuel prices.
bigolchimneypipe@reddit
Please tell us more about trump. We're all listening.
GoodGoodGoody@reddit
Trump?
Trump who campaingned on āLow fuel prices and no new wars!ā
That Trump?
Ummmm, ok.
Warm up
He met his second wife while cheating on his first and met his third wife cheating on the second. Somewhere in there he paid hush money to a porn star who called his dong mushroom shaped.
His third wife is an illegal immigrant and trump hosted the citizenship ceremony for her parents at the White House.
New York banned him from running any charity because he stole the money.
He ran a NYC newspaper ad accusing people of murder except, oooopise he name the wrong people.
Round 1: Trump 2016-20
https://www.citizensforethics.org/news/analysis/president-trumps-worst-offenses/
bigolchimneypipe@reddit
Go on
GoodGoodGoody@reddit
Well, I see youāre currently over in other subbreddits making the same Trump defense so I wonāt keep you.
bigolchimneypipe@reddit
I do not defend trump. Please tell me more evil about him.
GoodGoodGoody@reddit
As I said when you tried that in another subreddit:
Sure Jan.
bigolchimneypipe@reddit
Congratulations on your success. Hopefully every subreddit becomes about Trump.
Tutorele@reddit
Just worth pointing out this guy might not be full MAGA. "The Big Yahu" refers to Netanyahu. Implying he disapproves of Israel and believes they are partially/fully to blame for any government decision they dont like. Many MAGA types are still very pro Israel, save for the anti Trump grifter Maga types, but. That's a whole rabbit hole.
Not saying one way or the other anything else on the matter, just pointing that one out as food for thought
The_Substance_1670@reddit
Nah, the most annoying thing is bumpy roads and bridges making you feel like a ragdoll and knocking things off the dash
librarydirective@reddit
Itās definitely a double edged sword. Because when youāre actually tired the company will say hey thatās nice buddy but you better keep driving otherwise ya fired.
cowgirlstyle3@reddit
I'm tired of having to work 70 hours a weeks just to make a living wage
deadpat03@reddit
You going to start a fire?
cowgirlstyle3@reddit
.......no...... š«£
Hopeful-Weakness5119@reddit
Shut the f up
AdventurousAbility30@reddit
Is he wearing those video recording glasses?
Thegrandestpoo@reddit
Yeah, I donāt know about you, but Iām cool at 14 hours. Sounds like you want companies to start pushing drivers into 16 and 18 hour days. You can have all that.
Onzaylis@reddit
The law isn't written for super truckers who feel like they can just drive forever. The law is written to stop companies from forcing you to drive way past what would be safe for the average person. Those clock times aren't just numbers someone pulled out of their asses, they are based on research about how mental function begins to decline after a certain number of hours of activity, and how much rest it takes to recover.
iforgotmorethanuknow@reddit
I will always support truckers getting the most $ they can. The fact we dont get OT is the biggest scam ever anyways. "It would be to expensive on the economy" i'm hauling a load worth $100k+ but you cant pay me a few hundred more on it for OT or it breaks the economy? "It would be to hard to manage." It wouldnt, by law make companies have to keep a certain amount of their shipping budget in escrow for such loads, they cant stipulate 'straight time only', and make an ELOG synch system that validates i've actually worked more than 40 hours. Shit isnt hard if we all stood together, but ya'll wont.
isuxirl@reddit
I thought the point was if the govt doesn't tell you're tired then you're employer will tell you you're never tired.
BedAdministrative619@reddit
I was about to say something similar, but you nailed it. If our employers could, they would pay us less while giving as little off time as possible
flojo2012@reddit
Itās perfectly safe to drive 20 hours a day and it should be up to the individual to determine how long they should drive because it couldnāt possibly harm anybody else. Im glad there are no laws about streaming and driving as well.
AaronTuplin@reddit
So he's listening to the government today about the 5 hours but not tomorrow about the 14hrs when he's going to work an 18 to 20 hour day?
NoLyfe_Trader@reddit
Sadly itās a one fits all situation. Because you might push 1 extra hour means someone else has pushed an extra countless then causes an accident. Itās a simple fix for a large issue in the industry.
WestCoastRadiation@reddit
I often work 14-hour days until my 70 hours are maxed out, thank God for government regulations or that would probably be 100 hours
HowlingWolven@reddit
I sure as shit donāt agree with his glasshole cam.
Anxious_Ad909@reddit
While I agree with him and also hate the control the government has, I do understand why HOS exists. It's always someone who will ruin it for everyone else
baldieforprez@reddit
Fuck this dude. If he wanted ot he could be a framer or plumber.Ā Gmfuck him hard fuck him often.Ā Thank goodness for the government so I dont have to worry about this fucker killing my family
Psilologist@reddit
What I hate is the 70 hour clock. Just let me live by the other 3 clocks and I'm fine. I've been out for a couple months this trip and finally ended up having to do a 34 reset. Today I only had 4 hours left I could drive, I don't start getting hours back till tomorrow night. I get the other clocks, because there are dipshits that won't just stop because they're tired.
Kamiyosha@reddit
The Hours of Service are there to prevent the *Companies" from abusing the drivers.
So, your tired of the "Gubment" telling you your tired, huh? Alright. Poof. HOS is gone. Sweet. Drive on, boy.
Oh wait... you got FIRED because you had to sleep after being forced to run a 36 hour straight run because the conpany undercut their competitors by promising it be there yesterday?! And now YOU are responsible for cashing those checks the COMPANY MADE?! NO WAY!
Man.... To bad there isint a rule or something that said you had to be able to sleep every day. Whew boy what a difference that would make!
Great-Yak734@reddit
I feel like alot of people dont like these rules cause it affects their paychecks. Cents per mile or by pay by load. If you were payed what you should be paid then this stuff wouldn't even bother you.
Sorktastic@reddit
how is he going to work an 18-20 hour shift tomorrow when the government, that he hates telling him what to do, says he can only work 14?
GruulNinja@reddit
He sounds tired.
Deodorized@reddit
Lil fella sounds all tuckered out.
When toddlers start whining like that it's time to put them down for a nap.
AdagioEducational124@reddit
Lol, out him to sleep till he dies.
AdagioEducational124@reddit
Nobody is saying you are "tired". Not even the government. Your just tripping over the hours of service and you had to be an idiot making a video about this while driving a semi truck.
CMDR-L@reddit
Hell naw. My last employer had me working 13 hours ever damn day. If you let some companies, they will work you to the Bone. That's who those rules are for
ToastyBob27@reddit
Bad truckers during the golden age ruined it for you. The government was forced to implement it.
trucker_dan@reddit
Guy is running 83 mph while filming his dumb video. Seems safe.
starlux33@reddit
When dealing with millions of drivers, no system will make every one happy while helping to protect the public.
kingsnow18@reddit
I don't agree with him. I'm from Mexico, where there's no DOT, OOS, weight stations, etc. Free for all type shit. It's normalized to do a 35 h trip without stopping for proper rest because if you don't make it on time they won't pay you. So a lot of drivers do coke just not to fall sleep at the wheel. I'm glad I'm capped at 14 h/70h on duty time. It's tiring and hard enough to even find the time to take a shit I don't want to drive even more.
KiwiKal@reddit
Completely ignorant of why this system exists. Sounds like an idiot who didn't learn a damn thing when getting his CDL.
1990Billsfan@reddit
Back when I was running, an old driver said to me that all of the rules and regs on big trucking that drivers complain so hard about nowadays are truckers own fault...In the 60's-70's there were almost no regs and although there was really big money to be made then, there were also tons of wrecks and dead people...Badly maintained rigs losing control and killing people...Driver's trying to run non-stop cross country on speed, falling asleep and killing people, Drivers rolling out of truck stops and going down the highway drunk asf and killing people. Drivers with 3-4 logbooks and 5-6 driver's licenses (Suspended license? Not today lol!). According to him we brought all this sh*t on ourselves.
rectumrooter107@reddit
Hard disagree. Truckers should be making more, while working less hours. The money is there; it just gets sucked upward.Ā
TheRiftsplitter@reddit
My company would sure in fuck have me working 18 hours a day if it wasn't for these rules so this guy can just PC it if it's that big of a deal
Gotsnuffy@reddit
No, heās an idiot. Companies will run you to death if they could.
coalman07@reddit
Grow up driver. That attitude is garbage. Think about someone other than yourself for a moment.
COATHANGER_ABORTIONS@reddit
He's the type of dude hoping to have his YouTube blow up because he thinks he's the main character.
COATHANGER_ABORTIONS@reddit
It's so stupid when people try to oversimplify this shit. "I'm not tired" okay cool, that's you, get out of the truck and do something?
I have days where I feel like I could easily drive an extra couple hours, but I also have days where I'm glad the clock won't let me go anymore, and you know a company would push you further than you're comfortable.
CronoXpono@reddit
Bro we have WAY too many deaths due to fatigue to think weāre not gonna have some oversight. I think what needs to go is pay by mile. It incentivizes people to work tired.
clindh@reddit
This guy is an idiot with absolutely zero understanding of basic economics. If you removed all the hours of service regulations, congratulations now you have super truckers working 20 hours per day and you have to work 20 hours per day just to keep making the same amount of money.
TwoToadsKick@reddit
Yeah it's a big flex to work more than 70 hours a week
DiegoPapi6@reddit
I just wish we could use our 14 hour days for On Duty or Driveā¦..š®āšØ. This would make a lot more sense š¤
Responsible_CDN_Duck@reddit
If he was half as smart as he thinks he it he'd be pushing to make enough money in 35 or 40 hours, not 80 or 90 hours to work.
Environmental-Pear40@reddit
HOS is to protect you from your carrier. It's definitely not perfect but it is better than nothing.
I mean there's already carriers that break HOS to push their drivers to run all hours they can get them too. I wouldn't want that to be the norm.
U_wind_sprint@reddit
No
kay1547@reddit
If they limit how much drivers can work, they need to do the same for term limits.
goalmaster14@reddit
Those regulations are written in blood. Companies push their drivers too hard without these regulations and get people killed.
Maniachanical@reddit
Professional aircraft pilots have the same deal, & share roughly the same sentiment. It's all too easy to forget, but "Government says I'm tired" is a rule written in blood.
At least it prevents the company from overworking you. Well, in theory.
RichCypher@reddit
I can't believe how much bitching and moaning I hear from overworked underpaid drivers about hos. Why would you be mad you are only "allowed"to work 70 hours a week for minimum wage. How about being mad you aren't being fairly paid so you have to work more than 40 hours or whatever arbitrary number? This idiot needs to learn how to manage his clock in any case.
CVU03@reddit
Safety should be what we think about when we get mad at our reasons for the hours we work
sixstring53@reddit
We used to be able to sit out rush hour traffic, but now with the bogus 14 hour rule an e logs it's impossible. Tell me how that's safer for anyone. The government lies, and elds were never about safety. They gave control to greedy fucking truck owners. 3.5 million miles on paper without an accident, and bought my glider to go back to paper. No 9 to 5 college kid is going to tell me when I need sleep.
lord_nuker@reddit
Havenāt listened to the video, but that was some slack in the steering and vibration in the truckš¬
CrwnViic@reddit
The point is to make big carriers squeeze out owner-operators and smaller carriers who can't just "repower" a load to the nearest driver to finish the trip. Blame the lobbyist. It's not about safety and health. It's about money. It's about serving the few who have it, while the rest chase cheese. That's capitalism for you. 'Murica! š š¦
Bamfurlough@reddit
He's an idiot. There is endless medical evidence behind the hours of service limitations. I don't care what he thinks or how he feels the reality is that if you've been working 14 hours or on duty 14 hours you are tired and not fit to drive anymore.
The hours of service exist because of idiots like him. He's the kind of guy to have six beers and then be like, "I'm fine to drive!".
nanneryeeter@reddit
He has to follow the rules today but not the next day when he works 18-20 hours?
leadpoem@reddit
All this is, is playing the victim. Yes, the world is a hell of a lot harder right now, and yes, the wealth gap is it's the worst since the Gilded Era.Ā
That does not mean you should blame others for your circumstances and then just lay down and flail. That's something we all learned to stop doing when we were five.Ā
Also, I work for a company, and they'll happily let you work 70-hour weeks. I've done it. The money was great, but it's a terrible idea. You get so stupid and so tired at the end of the week. I don't care how voluntary it is. People should not be allowed to do that when their job poses a risk to themselves or others.Ā
Laffenor@reddit
Absolutely not.
n0funeral@reddit
government is a tool. the people holding such a tool it dictate what to do with it. it benefits the people who run the trucking companies to hold us to an arbitrary schedule. we can do better but we have to be in control
Main_Section_1641@reddit
You had me at ātell the government to gfyā
Unfair_Analysis_3734@reddit
āI am tiredā¦. of the governmentā¦..ā
Honestly you can just stop there. I agree.
illdoitlaterokay@reddit
No