Is it normal to watch TV in your garden in the UK?
Posted by pollen345@reddit | AskUK | View on Reddit | 479 comments
The neighbours already are pretty inconsiderate regarding noise, but now it’s sunny they’ve got a TV in their garden, under a DIY bar at the bottom of their garden.
Is this normal behaviour? I don’t know if I’m being unreasonable to be annoyed by the noise of a TV in the garden, but surely if we all did this it would be chaos?
JohnCasey3306@reddit
Audibly no different to them having a radio in the garden -- I'm not sure we'd question that.
Whether music or TV, I'd hope they were considerate but it's unreasonable to expect them to never make any noise at all -- time of day is a factor of course.
saltnvinegarwazere@reddit
Not normal but not unreasonable, no different noise wise to playing the radio or some music in your garden
BriennesBitch@reddit
This is a perfect thread to demonstrate why Reddit isn’t the real world.
Thank fuck it’s not as you are some miserable fuckers!
grafeisen203@reddit
It's pretty weird but making noise in the garden during the daytime is also completely acceptable.
colbysnumberonefan@reddit
I disagree. I would say the difference with “normal garden noise” (things like talking, gardening-related noise, etc) is that it eventually stops. A TV could literally be turned on & emitting a lot of noise all day long. It’s not the same at all in my opinion and if I had a neighbour like that I’d be pissed off.
Kelsiersdaggers@reddit
Like a radio? Which people have had in their gardens since they were invented?
nonoanddefinitelyno@reddit
Which are also annoying if I can hear it clearly in my own garden.
Kelsiersdaggers@reddit
Which wasn’t the question. Radios are perfectly normal in garden settings. So saying the noise of a tv is unreasonable when no one would say you can’t have a radio just seems daft.
Past-Obligation1930@reddit
I use ear buds. Yes, radio is ok ish, but there’s alternatives now, that don’t disturb the peace of others.
Puzzled-Tradition362@reddit
A radio in the garden isn’t bothering anyone.
Past-Obligation1930@reddit
Depends what you are listening to. I like the sound of nature, and so do my neighbours, so that’s great. How do YOU know what bothers everyone else?
Puzzled-Tradition362@reddit
Most people don’t act to precious or entitled about their neighbours playing the radio in their garden. Get over it, you’ll have to learn to live with it.
EmptyStock9676@reddit
It bothers me when my neighbours are playing music
Puzzled-Tradition362@reddit
I don’t think it does
Past-Obligation1930@reddit
You are literally telling people who are annoyed by something that they are not annoyed by it. Would you like to tell me what my favourite colour is next?
Puzzled-Tradition362@reddit
Unfortunately, you have to share your space with the rest of the world. They have a right to play music while pottering about in the garden or sunbathing. As long as it’s not too loud and obnoxious, then you should just learn to live with it. There’d probably plenty of things that your neighbours consider to be annoying about you as well.
01000010-01101001@reddit
Orange‽
Independent-Cat-59@reddit
Couldn't disagree more. I think it's so rude to force everyone around you to listen to your music.
blahblahblah1234_@reddit
Not everyone that listens to the radio in their garden has it on full volume. If it were really loud, I can understand. If it’s kept at a volume where you can hardly hear much then you’re being grumpy for the sake of it.
SilverstoneMonzaSpa@reddit
Agreed. I wouldn't have a radio in my garden, but don't think it's weird if someone did and a TV is just a radio with pictures that I still can't see.
The only time you can be reasonably miffed is if it goes on late IMO.
ahorizon@reddit
What if it's every evening and every weekend, so you can never be in your garden without listening to it?
Jeggasyn@reddit
Then a simple, reasonable, adult conversation with the neighbour would probably resolve it. Just making them aware of their nuisance is likely enough, as from that point onwards they're psychologically conscious of their noise.
Daveddozey@reddit
I can’t remember a single time I’ve heard a neighbour with a radio in the garden
Past-Obligation1930@reddit
My neighbour had one on the other day, at a modest volume, and I was ok with it. I had a different neighbour at another place who was an absolute cunt with loud music.
Kelsiersdaggers@reddit
Cool story. Most people have.
tattywater@reddit
Most people?
Kelsiersdaggers@reddit
In the uk? Absolutely. Most people who live in areas with gardens will have absolutely heard their neighbours playing music. Are you really going to start pretending otherwise?
tattywater@reddit
I genuinely haven't heard neighbours playing music in any form for the last 50 odd years of living in the east of the UK. Perhaps I'm lucky or a bit better off than you?
Kelsiersdaggers@reddit
lol. Reddit classism never fails.
Perhaps you are, friend. Perhaps you are.
tattywater@reddit
You really are.
Kelsiersdaggers@reddit
Was there a word missing here or something?
tattywater@reddit
I feel like I know you. Have you recently been dumped by your girlfriend after 18 months? Are you training to be a driving instructor?
Kelsiersdaggers@reddit
Eh, sure, why not champ.
Actual-Sky-4272@reddit
I would find a radio on all the time annoying too.
Becci92xo@reddit
Go live in the middle of nowhere then
Oxygene13@reddit
If only this option was affordable to everyone. Our own patch of peaceful serenity. Unfortunately the less money you have, the more people are around you. There should be some kind of mental health provision for people who get driven insane by noisy neighbours who's noise you can even hear through noise cancelling headphones.
Becci92xo@reddit
You need to get a grip
GodFreePagan42@reddit
I live in a very multicultural area. The Eastern European electro pop played at discotech levels drive me bonkers sometimes. But hey. Price I pay for being poor.
Square_Peg22@reddit
Quite annoying and no excuse these days since the invention of wireless headphones.
Cosmicshimmer@reddit
The outside is noisy. People shouldn’t have to cease all noise or wear earphones so you don’t have to hear noises outside.
honkballs@reddit
It's wild that you are getting downvoted for suggesting people where headphones.
If I'm in the garden I wouldn't dream of playing music out loud when I can just put headphones on.
CriticalCentimeter@reddit
I think you're just a miserable sod.
I rolled out my DJ gear into the garden yesterday and neighbours came over to hang out
honkballs@reddit
And you sound insufferable.
Kelsiersdaggers@reddit
As hard as it may be for the average user of this subreddit to believe. Some people have friends and enjoy having some music when they gather to socialise.
adsm_inamorta@reddit
But there is etiquette and respect for those in our communities that extends to not being an ignorant twat when doing activities in close proximity to others' private spaces. Just because you also have a private outdoor space doesn't mean that it's a soundproof environment that you can abuse. Being considerate and neighbourly goes a long way to a building a pleasant community.
Former_Intern_8271@reddit
What gave you that impression? Why do you believe gardens should be quiet? Is it not expected that when you step I to a garden that is close to other people's gardens that they may make noise?
Neighbours live different lives, some have noisy kids, some have barking dogs, some watch TV in the garden, life is easier if you lower your expectations and accept that.
Kelsiersdaggers@reddit
Part of that etiquette for normal social people is letting people enjoy things that maybe you don’t like.
If they’re blasting their radio or tv at full volume then fair enough, but people having music or watching the football in their own garden is perfectly acceptable if you’re not a complete Karen.
Actual-Sky-4272@reddit
And which my parents always told me not to play loudly or I would annoy the neighbours.
CoolRanchBaby@reddit
My neighbours have had workman in their garden with a radio all week. That’s fine. Is this really any different?
katspike@reddit
If builders play music that’s fine, but TV noises are different.
Former_Intern_8271@reddit
Not for any reason other than your preference though.
katspike@reddit
No. Music is designed to listen to. TVs are designed to be viewed. Being forced to hear random TV programmes, shouting commentators, adverts and films without seeing the screen is annoying.
Former_Intern_8271@reddit
noise is noise, sorry,
katspike@reddit
That’s just your subjective opinion, but it’s not based on fact, and as you can see in this thread, lots of people are irritated by TV noise for valid scientific reasons.
Music is like a steady hum or instrumental background. But TV noise is like someone constantly talking near you. The brain is wired to process language, so TV is much harder to ignore.
If it doesn’t bother you, then great… but don’t assume that you experience the world the same as everyone else.
--Velox--@reddit
You have to look at it through the eyes of the law though. If it’s legal then it’s fine to do. It might not be very neighbourly but if it’s not breaking noise abatement laws then it’s ok to do it.
We all get irritated by different things and yes I would find a TV more irritating than a radio but if that radio was playing a talk show or the archers or something then it’s almost identical. End of the day they are both just a box that produces noise. The rest is just personal semantics.
Not saying I wouldn’t have a word with them but if that failed, I’d have to just move on. Although what I’d probably do is buy a large boombox to ensure they can’t hear their TV every time they switch it on… 🤣
grafeisen203@reddit
As I said, it's fine to be pissed off about it but they are also entirely within their rights to do it anyway.
stoatwblr@reddit
Actually they're not.
Statutory nuisance laws cover continuous noise issues and they apply at all hours. Just because something blaring away at 2am is more obvious doesn't mean obnoxiousness during the day is acceptable.
A loud TV isn't that much different to dogs barking all day and there's plenty of case law on that.
APiousCultist@reddit
I think there are only very narrow circumstances where those laws would be at all applicable. Nuisance dogs get actioned because it's a behavioural issue that likely related to how they're being kept. People have been taking their TVs out or pointing them out of doorways for decades in countries with hot summers, and now we're one of them.
So long as the volume isn't excessive for what is necessary to be heard by the neighbours, isn't being played at unreasonable times, isn't being left on while the neighbours go off to work, and isn't playing highly objectionable content (i.e. porn, torture-porn horror movies) I cannot see those laws applying in the slightest.
I'd be happy if I never heard a barking dog, a different immediate neighbour inexplicably needing to mow their law every day of the week (how many people are in earshot for this to maths out), an overly boisterous pool party full of screaming, of the two hour long bell ringing session by church does every sunday but that's just life. A TV isn't materially different. The police don't even tend to come for the 2am (literal) fireworks, no one's going to bother because someone's watching Eastenders outside.
colbysnumberonefan@reddit
It’s also entirely “within my rights” to place a boombox next to my garden fence and blast dubstep music all day by this logic. Would you find that acceptable?
SunsetHaze@reddit
During the day, yes and have played loud music all day in my garden multiple times and been in ither gardens with loud music playing all day many times. My neighbors often have music playing when the weather's good, I don't see the oroblem with it. As long as it doesn't run late it's fine
HistoryDisastrous493@reddit
Depends on whether you were just doing it to be a twat or not
callisstaa@reddit
‘Let’s moan about something that didn’t even happen’
Insufferable people.
Former_Intern_8271@reddit
If you were actively enjoying the music yes, if you were doing it purely as a form of harassment, no.
Past-Obligation1930@reddit
And you are within your rights to have a bonfire and run your garden shredder all afternoon.
Badger_1066@reddit
Could.
Talking also could emit noise and last all day long. Especially if drinking is involved. It doesn't make sense to fall out with neighbours and make your life difficult because they like to watch TV in their garden.
callisstaa@reddit
Seeing posts like this makes me so thankful that we no longer live in the UK. ‘My neighbour’s daughter said hello, should I call the police’ etc.
grafeisen203@reddit
Right? When I had a garden I would regularly be out in it listening to the radio and doing gardening. I don't really see how that is any different, nor would I consider it unusual or unacceptable.
Actual-Sky-4272@reddit
Use earphones.
blahblahblah1234_@reddit
You don’t need to be that miserable. If it’s not excessively loud, how is people existing in their own space a problem?
HeartyBeast@reddit
Now you know better
stoatwblr@reddit
Loud enough to listen to, or loud enough to drown out conversations in neighbouring gardens?
One is acceptable, the other is statutory nuisance material
lesterbottomley@reddit
And it being the second scenario has been made up wholesale by yourself.
stoatwblr@reddit
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/noise-nuisances-how-councils-deal-with-complaints
Councils are responsible for looking into complaints about noise from:
premises including land like gardens and certain vessels (for example, loud music or barking dogs)
vehicles, machinery or equipment in the street (for example, music from car stereos)
lesterbottomley@reddit
I said THIS being the second scenario has been made up by you. The link above is beyond irrelevant to that point.
Former_Intern_8271@reddit
Personally I quite like it when neighbours make a bit of noise here and there, it means I can feel comfortable when I feel like doing something noisy
damebabyz56@reddit
Does it count as annoying if I lay in my hot tub using my tablet to binge watch supernatural episodes.
cine@reddit
This sounds like my idea of a party and I'm jealous
Veflas510@reddit
Yes but if you put something else on then it becomes okay.
Front-Parsley1901@reddit
I'm with the OP on this. I've heard plenty of talking / radio / mowers etc. in gardens, but a telly is something else. TV shows have incidental music, canned laughter etc. that make it really annoying to hear second hand. We have a neighbour who moves their TV into the garden, and it's next level irritating.
spidertattootim@reddit
This is the correct answer. People comparing it to the radio must be comatose to not understand the difference.
Amazing-Example8753@reddit
I honestly think this thread has two camps: people who have actually experienced neighbours with a garden telly and people who haven't. It's absolutely annoying as fuck compared to music or talking.
steve7612@reddit
Agree - just as annoying as people watching videos on public transport without headphones.
Past-Obligation1930@reddit
No, that’s “justifiable homicide” level annoying.
Equal_Membership_923@reddit
Yep those people deserve a special place in hell…
il0vOxy@reddit
As an autistic person who has experienced the world getting ever louder during my lifetime, I totally agree with you.
It is hard for me to live in this society. I really think most neurotypicals must hear noise differently to me because I can’t imagine how it would feel to be able to hear noise like TV in a neighbour’s garden and not be bothered by it.
RespectNo8823@reddit
I'm with you on this. I lived in a posh bit of London a few years back. Damp basement next to a family in a townhouse. Through the summer, they'd put on their own backyard cinema/Wimbledon in the garden. It was like torture. This was pre-big noise-cancelling headphones. I'm totally okay with children playing/barbecues/radio, etc., but the films were something else.
Past-Obligation1930@reddit
I’d be having a nice bonfire, and firing up my garden shredder.
IllMaintenance145142@reddit
yeah but this is just you making shit up to get angry over. the neighbor COULD shoot you in the face. we could spend all day getting angry over stuff that COULD happen
bluesam3@reddit
I mean, have you met children?
daern2@reddit
Noises come in all different sorts, of course and some are far more annoying than others, despite not being as loud.
...or constantly, all of the time, every minute of the day. I know people (older relatives, normally) who literally have the TV on from when they get up in the morning until when they go to bed. Constantly, all of the time, endless shite blasting out. If you had a neighbour who did the same with a TV in the garden, and if you could hear it all of the time, I think that would absolutely drive you completely insane.
It's one of those things where the usage really matters - the odd sportsball game, the odd movie on an evening, music at a party? All fine. Constant, neverending noise, even if it's not really loud? Yeah, I can see that being unacceptable.
Unrelated, but we've got an adjoining neighbour who, about once a year, decides he really needs to move the leaves around in his garden. He spends an entire weekend with this stupid, petrol leaf blower - not running it consantly, but in 30 second blasts, with 30 seconds ticking over while he shuffles to the new pile of leaves he's just created. It's astonishingly annoying, but fortunately, he only ever seems to get the urge once a year before he realises how futile it is, and puts the stupid machine away until next year. Oh, and he never actually bags up a single leaf - he just moves them from one bit of the lawn to another. In a way, it's quite entrancing to watch, but also intensely frustrating too!
schoolme_straying@reddit
tvbegone?
NoDeparture3374@reddit
You know full well that’s not normal noise in the garden. It’s totally inconsiderate and would be enough to drive a lot of people mad.
SeriousFortune1392@reddit
I agree, if it's not going on late into the evening or early in the morning, I do feel like they are within their right.
I live where there are kids on both sides. Is it annoying when they're screaming and shouting, and the balls are constantly banging on the fence, yeah, which is why I don't think it's unreasonable for the OP to be annoyed, but they're kids, and it's not late or early, no different to someone playing their radio in the garden.
grafeisen203@reddit
Oh yeah for sure. Being annoyed by it is perfectly reasonable, and even politely asking them to stop or lower the volume would be fine. So long as OP doesn't start calling the cops on them or making demands, neither party is being unreasonable here.
woahtheremate_@reddit
I would absolutely hate this and ESPECIALLY in summer. It’s not normal. It’s obnoxious and not everyone wants to watch what you’re watching every single day. It’s one thing having summer BBQs from time to time but if you will externalise your whole living room every single day every single summer ?!!!!!!
Over stimulation galore when we finally get to enjoy the sunshine which doesn’t come out often … and the peace that comes with it
Can you imagine if we all just had our TVs in our gardens all summer ?!!! My God
I’d be that person who reports them for anti social behaviour.
It’s akin to those who have their speakers LOUD when on the tube or bus 😖😖😖
blahblahblah1234_@reddit
Are you okay? You ought to calm down. A ‘super chilled person’ wouldn’t report someone for ‘anti social behaviour’ because they have their telly outside.
Also how is it similar to people doing that on the tube or bus? One is a public space where you are in very close proximity to other people. The other is a private space. It isn’t the similar at all. People should be free to do what they want as long as it doesn’t disturb people (ie it’s not excessively loud) If they want a telly outdoors then so be it. Maybe that’s how they want to enjoy the weather? If it’s loud, then just fucking tell them it’s a bit too loud? I don’t get why a lot of you are being so weird and miserable about people simply existing. And before anyone starts chatting shite, no I don’t have a telly outdoors nor do I listen to the radio.
woahtheremate_@reddit
😂😂 not sure why you’re taking this so personally. Are you the neighbour 👀👀👀
Anyway, if it wasn’t clear enough the first time — this very chilled person 😎 would report and report and report until they got some consideration into their heads.
There is no way I’m babysitting grown (inconsiderate) adults by giving them a little boo boo and stating the obvious — awww guys your TV should not be in your garden disturbing everyone else.
The amount of effort it takes to unplug the electrics, rewire, carry the TV out, get extension chords to plug up and then place it in a spot, grab your seats and sit down (only to have to put it back in again - and every single day) — further emphasises how incredibly Obnoxious and anti social they are.
When the letter comes from the council, they can go argue with the council and ask them “are you okay?? It’s just my television in the garden - I didn’t do anything!!”
Maybe they can appeal it and set a new precedent so we can all watch TV in our gardens everyday
🤓☺️
blahblahblah1234_@reddit
Christ. The amount of emojis… What is with you and emojis and the excessive use of punctuations?
I’m not taking it personally, I literally said I don’t have a telly or use the radio in the garden. I think you dictating what people should and shouldn’t do is absurd especially if they’re not being a nuisance.
A chilled person would just speak to their neighbour like a normal human being if they’re annoyed by the noise rather than ‘report and report and report until they got some consideration into their heads.’
I’m not saying you should tell them that their telly shouldn’t be in the garden. They can have the telly in their garden if they want to, it’s a free country and it’s not illegal to have a telly in the garden. If the volume isn’t obnoxiously loud, it’s not your business. You’re not babysitting by asking them to lower the volume, you’re communicating like an adult.
What next, do we ban people from having BBQs cause it’ll be too noisy? Not have large gatherings cause it’ll be noisy? No kids outside cause they’ll be too noisy? No dogs in the garden because they might bark? How about no one goes out in the garden unless they are completely silent with absolutely no fucking sound coming out of them or anything?
You do not know what their set up is, the OP said they’ve a DIY bar in their garden, so they might already have an easy way for setting up a telly. They might just want to watch occasionally when they have guests. You do not know what’s happening but you’re assuming they’re sat there having it on full blast from 7 in the morning until midnight.
It’s ridiculous that you don’t see how ridiculous you’re being and how bizarre it is that you think reporting someone repeatedly rather than communicating with your neighbour is considered a ‘chilled’ behaviour.
Again, I would completely understand if the telly was obnoxiously loud and the neighbour was being a knob about it, but we do not know for certain if that is the case. You’re making assumptions and are being so self righteous about it.
BriennesBitch@reddit
Every Karen loves emojis
woahtheremate_@reddit
So that you can seethe more I’ll have you know - I reported someone in the past. Guess what happened? Noise stopped. Everyone could sleep and rest. The next door neighbours kids weren’t crying from the distress. The quiet girl in the room next door didn’t get continuous migraines.
I know you’re the type of person to do what OP is complaining about hence all the essays you’re writing about it. And I want you to know I would report you too - a million times ☺️🤗 and we’d all have a street party about it afterwards
Go cry on someone sides shoulder because I genuinely don’t care for any excuses for being obnoxious. What you gonna do? Report me? What’s ya charge officer? 🤪😜
Maybe cry on the councils shoulders about this. You ought to write this letter to their anti social behaviour team who define the aforementioned behaviour as ASB - not me babe 😬
Enjoy today! Put your TV in your garden at your own risk!😅🌞
Here are some more emojis for you to complain to the anti emoji behaviour team about - 🌞🤗🐱😎✨🤪🥳😈👻🙀😸🫶
blahblahblah1234_@reddit
I can’t see the entirety of your response for some reason but for clarification, I’m not seething. I’m not sure why you think I am?
You probably should realise you are not a ‘chilled person’ seeing as you’ve said you reported someone in the past. Honestly, I feel awful for people that have to deal with you on a daily basis. Good bye.
woahtheremate_@reddit
Ooohh - look it’s the commander in chief of defense of noisy neighbours writing me PhD theses, telling me who I am, angry about the law, about council rules and about basic consideration.
You shouldn’t waste your feelings of awfulness over me babe. Me and my neighbours get on like a house on fire.
Extend it to OP’s neighbours in the scenarios you’ve so creatively imagined 😍 they’d need it if they lived next door to me in your imagination 🤓
blahblahblah1234_@reddit
Theses is plural, idiot.
woahtheremate_@reddit
I said enjoy the day a longgggg time ago. You didn’t need to announce your exit but okay - here’s more attention 🤗☺️😊🥂🍻🍹🥃🌻🌷🌹💁♀️💁♂️🙇♂️
BriennesBitch@reddit
The emojis say a lot about you as a person.
BriennesBitch@reddit
Couldn’t agree more, I bet this person posts a lot on local Facebook groups.
Calls themselves super chilled and then everything they write comes across as Karen 101 haha
BriennesBitch@reddit
You don’t sound super chilled at all, you sound like a right bore.
If you want complete peace and quiet move to the sticks where you won’t have any neighbours.
Physical-Industry-21@reddit
Just play some music at a louder level.
Fred776@reddit
I'd be tempted to blast out some death metal or something.
GreatChaosFudge@reddit
Hymns.
Lungg@reddit
Death metal? You want them to rock cargo shorts even harder?
Uncle_Zardoz@reddit
Or go one better, rent a PA and host a "Calling All Junglists!" DJ competition...
st1ckygusset@reddit
Time & place ?
Physical-Industry-21@reddit
Haha, that's what my neighbours would definitely do 😂😂
Able_Resident_1291@reddit
Some very passionate downvoters here today, they probably all have TVs in their garden and their neighbours hate them.
BriennesBitch@reddit
I have a TV in a bar. I really don’t care too much if it annoys my neighbours. One has packet party’s that can last until 8am and the other days loud BBQ’s.
We all get on and just accept that we all make noise occasionally.
I’d hate a lot of the posters on here as neighbours they sound so Kareny.
Buffsteve24@reddit
I use a projector sometimes in summer, from dusk onwards obviously, a couple of times a year we'll watch a film in the garden, is the sound booming absolutely not, my gardens enclosed if my neighbour came out would they hear it, probably, they cant hear it inside, am I causing a nuisance/offence? No and nor would I want to, I get on with my neighbour and would happily let her join if she wanted, recently watched Aliens
Dead_Bones001@reddit
Have you ever asked any of your neighbours if they can hear it? Because sounds bounce of walls and reverberate.
When the pub a 1/2 mile away has bands and music on in summer you can hear it all the way down my estate, it's loud and bouncing off the walls and it's quite annoying.
Prudent-Pressure2146@reddit
For a couple of times a year as op said I could get over it. It’s nice to hear people having a nice time sometimes
Giddyup_1998@reddit
Oh, how utterly sad for you that you can't enjoy a few tunes on a summers night.
Dead_Bones001@reddit
It's not tunes though, it's just the thump thump thump of the bass.
You can't actually hear the music properly. And you can still hear it inside which makes it worse.
Giddyup_1998@reddit
Yeah, that's not good, nor enjoyable. I completely understand how annoying it must be.
reocoaker@reddit
Of course they can hear it, they just put up with it.
Fluffy-Eyeball@reddit
Unless you listen at a volume that I couldn’t watch a movie at and hear all of it, I’d probably be able to hear it inside. More so in good weather with the windows open.
Would I like it? Likely no. Would it bother me and would I consider it a nuisance? Also no, if it was an occasional thing, not at a volume such that it actually causes a disturbance etc. If it was every night or loud enough to cause me to not be able to , say, concentrate on what I’m doing or hold a conversation then I would definitely consider it a nuisance.
I think this is key here, the difference between someone opinion on another’s behaviour, and what is actually unreasonable. People watching sports in the, day, in the garden and in a diy bar, with all the additional noise that will result in, I would personally consider highly antisocial and unpleasant; however as a one off still wouldn’t be inclined to complain about it or consider them actually doing much wrong.
Normal TV, on for long periods, across multiple days of the week, again with diy bar and intoxicated noises? All in all basically likely constant unpleasant noise. I would consider it not only highly antisocial and scroaty behaviour, but also a nuisance and very much complain with an expectation the council would act on it.
Former_Intern_8271@reddit
Sometimes it's just nice to hear people having a nice time, I used to sometimes get woken up by my neighbours kid practicing some sort of wind instrument, she was honestly bloody awful at it, I think her bedroom must have been the opposite wall to mine, but I just think it was sweet that she was learning to play.
People are quick to get angry, it's safe to assume we all do something our neighbours don't like, jumping straight to anger about the slightest thing makes me suspect that the person thinks they're perfect, the truth is you probably do something your neighbours don't like either, but they tolerate it.
Hara-Kiri@reddit
I like the sound of kids playing outside. I had a lucky childhood in that regard that I lived on a close, with quite a few families with other kids on that road and the longer road next to it. It was the safest place to play so everyone just hung out on my road, the toddlers all the way up to early teens. I rarely see that sort of community driving around any more so it gives me a bit of nostalgia hearing kids play. It's weird to me some people find it annoying.
derattler@reddit
Peak chav. Doesn’t matter if it’s “booming” you’re an absolute bell end. Get some earphones. Or a life.
Buffsteve24@reddit
Calling someone 'peak chav' whilst speaking like 'peak chav', hesitant to point out the irony, I have two neighbours, I'm not in the middle of an estate, it's in the middle of nowhere, my closest neighbour I'm good friends with, could understand your remark if I was in the middle of some claustrophobic new build estate, causing a nuisance
Bilb-@reddit
Looks good
Cal_PCGW@reddit
Weird. Partly because daylight on a screen wouldn't be ideal and partly as you'd need a long extension lead to get one out there in the first place. Plus if it starts to rain, well...
But I'm with you on noise. Unfortunately it's within the hours where noise is legally acceptable.
JustAnotherFEDev@reddit
DIY bar, probably has a roof, electrics and all that jazz
Bilb-@reddit
Also, I'm surprised with how many things this isn't a thing? I know loads of people that have this set up and would like to finish our garden with the same. We are lucky to not be so close to neighbours though but it would be something we'd discuss with them. It's so much cheaper having friends at home now compared to going out :(
Prudent-Pressure2146@reddit
Yeah my bfs family done it during the World Cup.
Waspkiller86@reddit
Redditors don't get invited to people's homes so they've never seen this
JustAnotherFEDev@reddit
I know a few of mates with them. Not close mates, I've never visited them, but they all seem to have gone for the outdoor sports bar theme.
If you can't have a beer and BBQ in your own back garden, where can you, I guess.
Live and let live, I say
derattler@reddit
Why does “live and let live” always apply to the person not being a selfish prick?
Why can’t these chavvy cunts with their garden TVs live and let other people live in peace? In my garden, I’d like to listen to birds, and the breeze and maybe the neighbours chatting and some kids playing. Not sky fucking sports.
Bet they always have their phones on speaker too. They’re arseholes.
Select-Blood-1778@reddit
In MY garden we hate to hear those tweeting buggers...and that bastard breeze
Amazing-Heron-105@reddit
what a miserable bastard fuck me
Wooden-Bookkeeper473@reddit
What are they watching??
Sxn747Strangers@reddit
I have never known someone to have a TV in the garden.
AffectionateWeek2535@reddit
Our neighbours have a large projector screen and they themselves get annoyed if outdoor lights are switched on by anyone in the neighbouring houses, because it spoils their outdoor movie nights. Some people are just extremely self-absorbed!
Belle_TainSummer@reddit
Not "normal" but not anti-social, they are just using their recreational space for recreational use.
Able_Resident_1291@reddit
Of course it's anti-social. It's an outdoor TV, they're not going to be watching on mute, are they
EastisSE@reddit
I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted. The stupid “I’ve got a right to make noise and screw you for having a nervous system/existing because I don’t give a shit about anyone else” brigade is out. You do not have have the right to dominate the space around you.
Jonoabbo@reddit
So should everyone else be silent? People are allowed to make noise. What's the issue, genuinely.
EastisSE@reddit
I don’t know how to explain to you that I think people should care about the peace and wellbeing of others
Jonoabbo@reddit
Your wellbeing is not being harmed by a television.
Maleficent_Public_11@reddit
I don’t know how to explain to you that when you choose to live alongside other people you must also allow those people to live life as they want. Just the mere fact of hearing their TV doesn’t harm your wellbeing. It’s completely disingenuous to pretend it does.
Loose-Ad-9884@reddit
They do have the right to listen to something in their own fucking garden, though
EastisSE@reddit
I don’t know how to explain to you that I think people should care about the peace and wellbeing of others
cloud1445@reddit
It's just TV. It's not dude playing death metal through a subwoofer.
blahblahblah1234_@reddit
So if you quietly play on an acoustic guitar outdoors it’s a problem? Should everyone just stay inside when they want to do something to please you?
Jonoabbo@reddit
What's wrong with noise?
Maleficent_Public_11@reddit
But it’s not anti social to make noise outdoors.
Able_Resident_1291@reddit
Depends on the noise
Maleficent_Public_11@reddit
We are talking in the context of this post though, not an imagined noise.
adsm_inamorta@reddit
You are straying from the post's context though. You made a general statement:
It can be. It's not black and white.
Maleficent_Public_11@reddit
You’ve got to be a little bit challenged in the critical thinking faculties to not understand that in this post, the comments are made in reference to the post.
spidertattootim@reddit
What you wrote isn't what you meant, is the problem here.
cadiastandsuk@reddit
It can be classed as anti social depending on the noise- councils environmental health teams, the police or housing providers wouk class it as environmental ASB, the definition as per google:
Environmental Anti-Social Behaviour (ASB) refers to actions that negatively impact the wider environment, public spaces, or community surroundings, causing distress or annoyance to residents
Maleficent_Public_11@reddit
Yeah but there’s nothing that indicates this noise is antisocial. It’s just domestic noise.
cadiastandsuk@reddit
OP has said they are already inconsiderate with noise nuisance and finds the noise of the TV annoying. That in itself is something EH or housing providers would look at. Many people think that noise nuisance has to have set parameters such as being after 11pm or of a certain decibel but it almost always doesnt; if something is being used that is detrimental to residents health and wellbeing then it can be anti social.
Pensioners with their tvs or radios on too loud at all hours, excessive hoovering or DIY or dogs are all domestic noises that by and large are tolerated but can still become ASB depending on the conditions and how it is negatively affecting individuals or communities.
Maleficent_Public_11@reddit
It’s absolutely not something environmental health would be interested in. Look at your local council website, it certainly won’t say ‘we can take action on normal domestic noise’. If it does, feel free to post it here. Mine certainly doesn’t.
cadiastandsuk@reddit
Wild to think you'd want me to post where I'm from but this is from my council website, the previous paragraph mentions what they DO investigate and simply includes ' noisy neighbours' which is a very wide bracket.
We can not investigate:
If you don't know where the noise is coming from everyday household noise, such as footsteps, doors closing, vacuum cleaners, washing machines, children playing, babies crying or talking.
Im not sure what you mean about edits about a boombox, sorry?
Maleficent_Public_11@reddit
Your local council serves 10000, if not 100000+ people it’s not identifying. Post it.
cadiastandsuk@reddit
Im quite aware, working alongside them in this field. You seem to have skipped past both my comments where my local council COULD include this scenario, and the comment about a boom box?
Exasperant@reddit
Of course the OP couldn't in any way be a curtain twitching sour whinging git whose entire existence is built around resenting the idea that someone, somewhere, might be having fun, could they?
(I'm not saying they are, just that you seem to have instantly decided the problem here is the person wanting to enjoy their own garden)
Past-Obligation1930@reddit
Domestic noise goes on inside.
Used_Face3114@reddit
By no definition
spidertattootim@reddit
In my free time I like to ride motocross bikes, would it be okay for me to use my recreational space for that recreational use?
john92w@reddit
Did you just compare a TV and a motorbike?
spidertattootim@reddit
No. Is your reading comprehension not very good?
john92w@reddit
It is which is why I noticed you made a straw man argument about a motorbike when people are talking about a TV.
spidertattootim@reddit
Perhaps try reading the comment I was replying to, to understand the point I was making.
john92w@reddit
I did and that changes nothing. Its a silly comparison and a poor straw man argument.
spidertattootim@reddit
It's not a comparison or a straw man argument. Maybe you could ask an adult to read the thread for you?
john92w@reddit
A straw man argument is a logical fallacy where someone misrepresents, exaggerates, or fabricates an opponent's argument to make it easier to attack
There you go buddy. Thats what you did. The exaggerates part is what you focused on by interjecting a motorbike into a TV discussion. Have a good day.
spidertattootim@reddit
I know what a straw man argument is, and there isn't one in my comment.
john92w@reddit
I do understand and so do everybody else downvoting you.
Did you really try to “get me” with a second sentence that you edited in? Lol.
You were saying if a TV is fine in a garden because its for recreation, so is a motorbike. Thats a straw man sit.
spidertattootim@reddit
No I didn't. Not directly and not by implication. It was a question, not a statement.
For the final time, you have not understood the point I was making.
john92w@reddit
Deny all you want but its there for everybody to see. Its the exact reason people are downvoting it.
Ba bye mate.
spidertattootim@reddit
Argumentum ad populum is also a logical fallacy.
john92w@reddit
Bla bla.
Go and edit some more sentences into your past comments that you didnt think of at the time. Haha.
blahblahblah1234_@reddit
They’re clearly an absolutely fucking miserable person. Just ignore them.
john92w@reddit
I know, I just found the denial hilarious. Some people are so ignorant even of their own words.
blahblahblah1234_@reddit
Lol. Just be glad you never have to speak to them in person.
spidertattootim@reddit
What a strong point, you've definitely won the argument now.
statelyhovel@reddit
Yes
ClacketyClackSend@reddit
Are you one of those people that thinks "as long as it's not specifically banned, it's okay for me to do it"?
You know it's okay to just not be an inconsiderate dickhead without being forced to, right?
rumbletom@reddit
They are arseholes.
cloud1445@reddit
Garsoles.
2KCoinsLTD@reddit
Oui Garson!
Physical-Industry-21@reddit
No there not, they are just enjoying their garden in the sun... Maybe your just a dullard.
il0vOxy@reddit
*you’re
AdWeird6452@reddit
Enjoying their garden watching tv…
vakax@reddit
I would argue OPs neighbours are the dullards in this scenario.
Physical-Industry-21@reddit
I'd beg to differ.
CheesyChips@reddit
Are you a garden tv watcher?
Physical-Industry-21@reddit
No, but if my neighbours were it wouldn't bother me.
Difficult_Tea6136@reddit
In this weather there's nothing wrong with it
gibgod@reddit
I’ve sometimes watched England matches at major tournaments on a sunny day in the garden but that’s obviously rare and I try and have it not too loud, but it tends to be with a bbq too so there’s always going to be some noise.
But yeah having one on constantly is a bit mad.
Most new tvs are Bluetooth now, so it’s a shame they aren’t considerate enough to listen to it via Bluetooth, but tbh if there’s more than one person watching I don’t know if you can have multi Bluetooth headphones on one tv.
Good luck with your situation, noisy neighbours are always a pain and it’s always tricky working out the best way to deal with them.
meteoricboy@reddit
No it’s not normal to have a TV in the garden. I also feel a radio and a TV may make different noise unless of course someone is listening to the identical thing on either device. For example, I would be annoyed if my neighbour were in their garden listening to a loud sports game on radio OR on TV, but they are much more likely to watch it on TV. That said, as long as they are within the very reasonable noise ordinances set by the council that is their right and I have no problem with it.
Not necessarily for you OP, but for those commenters who seem to feel the only acceptable noise from a garden is whispered conversations- for goodness sakes!! If you live near people you’re likely to hear them. Humans make noise. Do us all a favour and live in a rural environment with no one nearby if people bother you so much.
NoNeedleworker8860@reddit
It is weird just get a tablet and some headphones and watch netflix outskde if you want to do that. Or if I was going to put a TV outside I'd still connect headphones to it.
Tequila-Tarn@reddit
Radios or TV in the garden would piss me off. I don’t do it, if I want to listen to music I use AirPods. I even get annoyed if my husband is playing something loud in the kitchen and I can hear it in the garden. Garden is my nature, I want to listen to the birds and have a silent (ish!) retreat. TV is for indoors IMO.
smellyfeet25@reddit
Not to my knowledge
WorcsBloke@reddit
My neighbours don't do this, but I'd find it irritating and bad manners for the same reason playing your phone on speaker on a train is irritating and bad manners. It's not like people talking, which has a natural ebb and flow, TV sound usually just goes on and on.
Maleficent_Public_11@reddit
The big difference between a train and a garden is well… one is on public transport and the other is a private space. The fact that the noise of a private space carries doesn’t make it anti social. Lots of noises can be heard outside the private space and they are still perfectly acceptable.
HeartyBeast@reddit
Thats precisely what makes it antisocial
Maleficent_Public_11@reddit
No it’s actually not. Lots of noises can be heard outside the space. When I am in my garden I can often hear my neighbours having friends over, I can hear the children in the primary school at the end of the road, I can hear the crowd at the football, I can hear my neighbours child crying because he doesn’t want to get in the bath.
None of these are anti social.
Anti social noise is defined in law and in effect has to hurt your health or otherwise harm you.
So no, just being heard outside of a space doesn’t make it anti social.
HeartyBeast@reddit
So this is where you have to think about the difference between ‘sounds’ and ‘noise’.
Obviously, there ads plenty of sounds that you can hear in your garden - sounds of people going about their business, the sounds of nature etc. They are pretty easy for the human brain to ignore. Where the sounds are persistent and distracting, it becomes noise. Having a TV on in the garden next door is likely to be noise. Not all sound is the same. -
Maleficent_Public_11@reddit
Thanks for the patronising comment, but it isn’t ‘likely’ that a TV becomes noise because it isn’t likely that a TV causes harm to health or harms anyone.
That is what you have to think about.
katspike@reddit
The OP’s question was “what would happen if we all did this?”.
In the link you provided it lists two relevant issues:
F4(fb)artificial light emitted from premises so as to be prejudicial to health or a nuisance;]
(g)noise emitted from premises so as to be prejudicial to health or a nuisance;
Lots of people work from home, and open their windows in the summer. Being surrounded by TV light and noise that is designed to demand attention is a nuisance and will negatively affect mental health.
It’s like the difference between a steady lamp and a flickering light. Same brightness, but one is far more irritating.
Maleficent_Public_11@reddit
The relevant thing is that the law doesn’t treat any aggregate effect as relevant, so it doesn’t matter what would happen if we all did it.
HeartyBeast@reddit
It was t intended as patronising, it was intended as a an attempt at an explanation.
Maleficent_Public_11@reddit
It was patronising regardless, and incorrect as pointed out.
HeartyBeast@reddit
I do t think you showed it was incorrect. You just tried to redefine noise as something that damages health, whereas I’m suggesting it is sound that has a detrimental impact on someone’s mental state. There are lots of factors involved, su h as volume and persistence- but also the extent to which the type if sound is ignorable by the human brain - these factors compound.
Maleficent_Public_11@reddit
I’ve not tried to redefine it. I’ve given the legal definition.
HeartyBeast@reddit
You redefined my omitting the phrase the part of the definition that said noise is injurious to health or a nuisance
Maleficent_Public_11@reddit
How could I have omitted anything when I linked to the definition? When you cite something you are including it, almost by definition.
Search-Lite@reddit
But the garden is not a private space. It shares the same air as the neighbours. Indoors is private but the garden is a shared outdoor area chopped up by trees and fencing.
Maleficent_Public_11@reddit
That’s just not a position supported in law or the way that we act in our lives. You don’t walk into other people’s gardens and sit down anywhere, because you know it’s a private space.
NoDeparture3374@reddit
You sound absolutely vile 😂
Maleficent_Public_11@reddit
Because I challenged you on your untrue assertion?
NoDeparture3374@reddit
Because you’re all about technicalities instead of just being considerate and nice for your brief time on this planet. You’re pompous too 😂
Maleficent_Public_11@reddit
It’s not a technicality to say that you have to accept that other people have lives that they might lead differently to you, and that doing so isn’t unreasonable or anti social.
I think it’s much worse to expect no one else to ever have any impact on your life, and be as intolerant as you are. That’s the really pompous, self important and vile behaviour. I imagine that will go completely over your head though.
NoDeparture3374@reddit
Reading through your other comments I think you have depression and have no one to talk to in real life. You’re not vile, you have value, time get that self respect back. I believe in you.
WorcsBloke@reddit
I mean, it's probably not the worst anti-social noise, depending on volume. Everyone's annoyed by different things, I grant that: I personally detest dogs that bark for hours on end. But garden noise can be easily heard in the next door garden in a way that living room noise can't in the next door living room. So I don't think it's private in the same way. Maybe semi-public.
Greedy-Mechanic-4932@reddit
Except there are instances where noise from private spaces is indeed anti social. The fact it comes from a private space doesn't mean it's permitted.
Maleficent_Public_11@reddit
There’s no indication this noise is antisocial though. We are speaking in the context of this post, which is just otherwise normal TV noise that can be heard.
NoDeparture3374@reddit
It’s anti-social.
RepulsiveRain1440@reddit
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TruthReptile@reddit
It's times like this that I really notice all the comments and how petty people can be about little things sometimes.
No_Olive_2785@reddit
Yeah you sound like you might be the problem
eufemiapiccio77@reddit
iPad
sorinssuk@reddit
I have like an open summer house with a bbq area with and tv where I’m watching football sometimes in the summer. What’s wrong with that? As long as is not loud I don’t see a problem
No_Design_6236@reddit
Not normal!!
Physical-Industry-21@reddit
Why isn't it ?
fuzzerino@reddit
Normal or not its trashy behaviour
Badger_1066@reddit
So? Let people enjoy their lives the way they want.
any_excuse@reddit
No fuck that. We all live in a society, what we do with our lives has an impact on others.
If I want to sit in my garden and listen to birdsong but now I'm forced to listen to fucking Top Gun or whatever shite you've decided to watch or listen to in public then you're a bell end actively making the world a worse place.
Badger_1066@reddit
You're so dramatic. It's no different to any other kind of noise a neighbour makes in their garden. If it's not extensive or invasive, it doesn't fucking matter.
spidertattootim@reddit
You're wrong, TV noise is much harder to ignore and tune out than other normal garden noises.
Freddyeddy123@reddit
How do you live being so miserable?
Badger_1066@reddit
You're wrong. It depends on how loud it is, how often it is, and who you're asking. You're being dramatic.
katspike@reddit
It is fundamentally different. Complexity/predictability matters, not just volume. Example: music = predictable, smooth. But TV = changing voices, cuts, sudden sounds.
fuzzerino@reddit
A spot of societal shame would do well for the UK ngl.
fuzzerino@reddit
People are allowed to enjoy their lives the way they want but that doesn’t make them immune to criticism.
Able_Resident_1291@reddit
I like to enjoy my life by standing outside your window and screaming for hours on end. It's ok if I do it during the day apparently. See you soon.
curetrick@reddit
No need to be judgy. Watching a film or something out in the sunshine? Class aside for a sec, that sounds pretty lovely to me.
melbourne_hacker@reddit
As an Australian, it’s pretty normal to have a TV in the garden. Why should you have to inside watching TV on a nice day, when you can do it outdoors? If it’s too loud then yeah, could be an issue but other than that, it’s harmless entertainment.
katspike@reddit
I assume your gardens are bigger and not part of a terraced block where the sound bounces off the walls and straight into your neighbour’s windows.
spidertattootim@reddit
Not lovely if you don't want to be forced to listen to someone else's film noise.
sihasihasi@reddit
With headphones? Absolutely.
Making all your neighbours listen to your movie? Arsehole behaviour.
fuzzerino@reddit
Thats cool, we are allowed to have different opinions.
Physical-Industry-21@reddit
Never lived on a council estate have you...
BroodLord1962@reddit
Time to move. No it's not normal
funnystuff79@reddit
That's what a pub garden is for if it's a sports showing pub. Interestingly the pub would be subject to restrictions on how much noise it can make and at what hours
Aldo_Wilmington@reddit
Money bags over here.
Usual-Journalist-246@reddit
Not 100% normal buts well within the standard deviation of what constitutes reality. Get annoyed with them if you like, it won't help anything though.
bit0n@reddit
A friend has a bar and a projector set up and has us round to watch the football. He always invites the neighbours and shuts it off by 11.
MrMakuMaku@reddit
Get a universal remote and turn it off every time they turn it on 🤫
Queasy_Culture3897@reddit
Unfortunately I believe it's getting a lot more common, no consideration for anyone else
honkballs@reddit
It's so sad to see the amount of people in here saying that this is ok.
The top comment here says "making noise in the garden during the daytime is also completely acceptable."
I would never dream of making noise for prolonged periods that others could hear, regardless of the time.
Like sure, you might have the one off event, or mowing lawns. But if I was going to just sit out and watch TV for hours on end, or listen to music, I'd put headphones on!
EmFan1999@reddit
Yeah, it’s so important to look at the area you buy in and walk around at different times of the day and night. When I bought my house, one of the things I considered was of course social housing but also older neighbours. I try to be silent in my garden when it’s just me and thankfully so do the neighbours, aside when we have people over
Jonoabbo@reddit
I like to hear other people existing. I like the sound of other people doing stuff. I'm saying its okay because if my neighbors did it, I'd think it's cool that they are having a good time.
The sound of other people doing stuff doesn't bother me.
derattler@reddit
100%
EmFan1999@reddit
Personally I think music is acceptable in the right circumstances but not TV or someone watching videos on their phone
I think people like a quiet tranquil garden and it should be respected
Impossible_Pie4091@reddit
What would happen if someone at night jumped over the fence into your neighbours garden and put a glass of water through the tv vents. It would be hard for the neighbour to watch tv again.
Fit-Fault338@reddit
Never known that before.
Becci92xo@reddit
Of course come to reddit and ask all the other miserable weirdos that will get you a balanced opinion
MorgRiot@reddit
Comments on this are ridiculous
No! It is not normal to put your TV in your garden.
Jeggasyn@reddit
Jees, so much bad advice here. Just a brief, adult conversation is required here. Making them aware of their nuisance is enough to change their behaviour. If not the first time, several conversations in, they'll feel bad and keep the noise low.
PuzzledPlebian@reddit
Id be a bit more miffed at the person trying to lord over me what i can and cant do in my own garden.
floralaurora@reddit
It totally depends if the sound is very loud and how much it impacts my time in the garden Also if it's at the bottom of the garden and I'm sitting at the top of mine will I hear it
Unfortunately I live in a new build where our gardens are practically built on top of each other so I'm pretty much guaranteed to hear the neighbours regardless of what they do
I also think everyone has a different level of tolerance for noise pollution and what they can cope with
Id probably say it can be quite annoying especially if they do it everyday
cookiesandginge@reddit
“But surely if we all do this it would be chaos?” Lol this is a very British sentence.
I only put the telly in the garden fo the World Cup final
AugustusReddit@reddit
It's not normal British behaviour.
I'd download the BBC logo to make a letterhead, then write a fake letter from BBC television licensing that during a recent surveillance of licenced premises, an unlicensed television was detected. Mention large fines and court proceedings if this continues. Drop a sealed envelope with fake OHMS markings into their letterbox when nobody is around. That might have the desired effect...
daveoxford@reddit
How about people listening to the radio or recorded music in the garden? Would you regard that as normal?
Wonderful-Part3495@reddit
It depends on the volume of their TV. However, I believe everyone is free to do as they please in their own yard.
stowgood@reddit
Not normal sounds annoying if it's all the time. I could understand it for like occasional events like a special sporting event or party or something maybe. All the time would be annoying.
Shoddy_Juggernaut_11@reddit
OP sounds like a snob
wildeaboutoscar@reddit
Not a normal thing where I am, but then I live close to a few big parks so people tend to congregate there or in a pub instead.
As with most things it's just about not being a dickhead. Keeping volume low is a must. I like hearing people enjoy themselves (just as well given my location) but there's a difference between the hum of people chatting or listening/watching something and blasting things at full volume and screaming constantly.
Jonoabbo@reddit
People on reddit have a really, really weird reaction to other humans making noise.
Sandy_Bananas@reddit
Plebeian shit.
Sandy_Bananas@reddit
What’s the meme: wonky hands fallout man; says “excuse me, what the fuck?”
No. Absolutely not.
Temporary_Ebb9486@reddit
Sounds lovely to me, I would let them have their pleasures. But I’m not you
nibutz@reddit
I’m blown away by so many of the responses here. If Reddit is to believed - which it rarely is - gardens are purely for silence, and shouldn’t be enjoyed at all, by anyone, ever. I absolutely loathe NIMBYism and this is it at its worst.
HeartyBeast@reddit
Looks around for anyone saying that. Nope - hell of strawman you've constructed there. The truth is that if you want to listen to stuff in your garden for prolonged periods, it is considerate to wear earbuds. Other people mighth like to listen to the sound of the bees buzzing about, or just enjoy the quiet
nibutz@reddit
What a load of shite. My garden is mine to do what I want with and so is yours. If what I do with mine annoys you, tell me, and if what you do with yours annoys me, I’ll tell you. “Oh but the council says…” - bullshit excuse for people who think the world revolves around them.
(For the record I don’t have a TV in my garden but I will occasionally put some music on a Bluetooth speaker while I’m out there with my family, and nobody has ever complained, because I have nice neighbours who don’t think they’re the only people allowed to call the shots)
joehonestjoe@reddit
Actually this is NITBY, which is slightly rarer.
nibutz@reddit
A fair point. I wonder what OP does with their garden. I’m sure it’s constant silence apart from the occasional snip of nail scissors as they cut the grass, one blade at a time.
joehonestjoe@reddit
You got a license for those noisy nail scissors?!?
nibutz@reddit
Best ask Reddit who to complain to. Heaven forbid we ask the neighbours to turn their TV down a bit. That would be much worse than listening to The Chase on a sunny Saturday afternoon.
Teaofthetime@reddit
No, not at all, not sure why you would really.
retniap@reddit
Mow the lawn
Over and over again
HeartyBeast@reddit
and then put the sprinkler on
Exasperant@reddit
For all we know the OP is the sort of person who mows their law at 7:10am every Sunday morning, going over it repeatedly until every blade of grass is at the precise length they require.
Dimac99@reddit
And if they aren't, it might be time to become one!
iFlipRizla@reddit
Sad little man
MazerTanksYou@reddit
Or, get a Bluetooth speaker and play ten hours of lawnmower noise right up at the fence.
flippertyflip@reddit
Wait until Davina or whoever does that stupid pause before revealing who won whatever and fire up the angle grinder.
PeaceLoveCurrySauce@reddit
Just cause you weren’t invited lol
dreamponies@reddit
Tv in the garden is weird, but unless the noise is excessive I’d say you can’t really moan. It’s not much different to tv indoors turned up loud and bifold doors open. Both annoying and inconsiderate, but not really doing anything wrong.
honkballs@reddit
It's not normal, and is a complete trashy and low IQ thing to do.
TinyConfidence8533@reddit
As a native, it’s not something I’ve seen often. It should however be completely normal, especially if there’s a couch by the front door and a topless bloke getting ratted on Stella sitting on it
Chamtre@reddit
My family do it on sunny days. They try and keep the noise down though
Sirlacker@reddit
Is the noise level loud enough that you can hear it inside?
Are they leaving it on all day?
Is there any explicit language being heard?
If you cannot hear it inside, no foul language is being heard and it's not an all day thing, and only being used during sociable hours then mind your damn business.
Do you make noise complaints about cars using the street, dogs barking, children laughing and playing in their gardens, lawn mowers being used?
I don't have a TV in my garden, we very, very rarely play music in the garden, we've had one outdoor gathering in about 5yrs but my neighbours do play music, they do have gatherings and we let them just enjoy their fucking garden. I have kids and I let them play and laugh and be loud during the day in the garden, as long as it isn't kicking off and arguing with each other. If someone told me to keep it down, I'd tell them to fuck right off. Everyone is entitled to use their garden how they want as long as it's during sociable hours and you can reasonably escape from the noise if it becomes too much, i.e. indoors.
This thread is fucked. Imagine someone just wanting their mates round to watch the football in the sun and people kicking off about it.
SnooDonuts6494@reddit
It's fine, until like 10 pm or so.
craftyorca135@reddit
Never had that problem, but I suppose it's like any other noise. Just have to put up with it.
Able_Resident_1291@reddit
Report them to TV Licensing for watching TV without a license. You never know.
Daveddozey@reddit
They probably have a license. They probably don’t have a public performance license for music, or an appropate sky subscription for public performance, and if you can hear it that’s public.
joehonestjoe@reddit
I wasn't under the impression there was anything that stated a private property couldn't be overheard for TVL reasons.
If someone watches my TV through the window should I get a pub license 😛
Adventurous-Elk-5193@reddit
what a twatty thing to contemplate and makes no sense.
Able_Resident_1291@reddit
If it makes no sense then how do you know it's a twatty thing to contemplate
Adventurous-Elk-5193@reddit
because TV licensing people don't respond to people trying to grass people up; they overwhelmingly just send letters to unlicensed households and visit a tiny number each year where they have no legal powers of entry etc. so it would be a twatty thing to try to do and would acieve nothing. hth
spidertattootim@reddit
Absolute scumbag behaviour. Not just because it's intrusive and inconsiderate, but because it's a trashy way to spend a sunny day.
Amazing-Heron-105@reddit
Bro are you in Bristol? My next door neighbour has the exact same thing
scouse_git@reddit
Have you tipped off TV Licensing yet?
joehonestjoe@reddit
Appropriate username
Amazing-Example8753@reddit
My neighbours do this too, along with blaring music, shouting, swearing and drinking all day long. Multiple generations of this one family are all out there every Friday, Saturday and Sunday. I legitimately hate them.
MattHatter1337@reddit
Its only weird cause water and electricity dont really mix.
Emergency_Mistake_44@reddit
Is it any different to a beer garden with a TV? At this time of year people have garden parties, BBQs, lawnmowing,.bouncy castles, all sorts, I don't think watching TV outside is any worse.
spidertattootim@reddit
The difference is OP lives next to a house, not a pub.
NobleRotter@reddit
A beer garden with a TV? Tell me that isn't a thing
Dethark@reddit
I take it you don't get out much?
Lots of beer gardens have TV's in them. Mainly for sporting events.
NobleRotter@reddit
I get out. Definitely not to anywhere that'd put a TV in the garden though. Never seen it.
NobleRotter@reddit
I get out. Definitely not to anywhere that'd put a TV in the garden though. Never seen it.
ThriceNightly_Whitey@reddit
Maybe I grew up with more space than most, neighbours would have to be up the fence to hear the TV in our garden, which was a regular when tennis or snooker was on and the weather was guaranteed not to rain.
Using the word normal implies enjoying a space you own can be abnormal somehow. The phrasing is weirder than the activity.
Plenty of friends invested in projectors and screens for camping, and use them when the World Cup is on to hold BBQs and watch parties.
BionicWallaby@reddit
Fire up the barbeque, DAB pumping out radio 1 dance. Top sausages. No tv needed
Recent_Strawberry456@reddit
Do you need a licence for public performance in these cases? Essentially rebroadcasting?
Earth_to_Sabbath@reddit
Get a universal remote and change the channel and volume
skrew86@reddit
I'd watch TV in my garden if I could. I sometimes take my laptop out but that's about it
GlasgowJimmyBhoy@reddit
Ive got a to out the back too! Nothing beats sitting in the sun watching the football in your own backyard it’s absolute bliss
acezoned@reddit
On a council estate it is! But normally no
Dubsndimes29@reddit
A TV in the garden? You can't be that hard of an addict to screens. Very bizarre.
Nectarine-999@reddit
Put your telly on the garden but on a different channel. It’d be very distracting for them. Or, put the same channel on and the sound will probably be out of sync which is just as annoying.
Oh hi neighbours, what a great idea. We’ll do the same.
bawdiepie@reddit
2 words: Universal remote
Tall_Ask_3461@reddit
Do fireworks late at night
LJ161@reddit
We did it for the world cup/euro games - a tv under a gazebo with some friends around but im pretty sure the whole street was watching it at the same time.
Daveddozey@reddit
England games in the World Cup tend to get about 20 million viewers, so maybe 1 in 3 people.
Ultimate_os@reddit
They weren’t.
MidsummerMidnight@reddit
100% gonna be for world cup
Satansrideordie@reddit
It’s as annoying as people listening to music in their garden when you’re chillin in yours.
Still no right to say owt
zoppaTheDim@reddit
Eh, I could name three guys who think an outdoor tv they can watch while barbecuing on a fall Saturday is Living the Dream.
Opening_Nose_2347@reddit
God, that's vulgar!
Exasperant@reddit
I spend most days looking around the sea of vulgarity surrounding me.
And, of course, being the fine sophisticate I am, know nobody would dare have similar thoughts about me.
Opening_Nose_2347@reddit
I'm just nasty.
BovrilBullets@reddit
Accidentally spray the tv with water as you hose you perennials…
BigMagic88@reddit
That’s weird as hell! What are they even watching? I have too many questions.
Able_Resident_1291@reddit
Michael McIntyre's Big Show
Exasperant@reddit
Yeah, no. That's my entire take changed.
Fuck 'em and double fuck their TV
MillsOnWheels7@reddit
FA cup semi final
Gornal-Annie6133@reddit
Where I live, many people built outside bars, especially during Covid and man/woman caves. I know loads of people who have tvs in their garden bars and tend to watch the football, whilst having a drink or two with mates. As long as it’s not overly loud, late at night or persistent, what’s the problem?
If it’s an issue, start a case with your councils ASB team and keep a log of the problems.
Scottie99@reddit
Definitely not.
CrowApprehensive204@reddit
I'd sooner listen to a TV than my next door neighbours three kids screaming and squawking and then one of the adults shouting at them. They don't seem to do bedtime either as it's now 20:56 and they're now screaming and squawking in the living room
Scarred_fish@reddit
Why the fuck, if you are in the garden, or indeed anywhere outside or even where you can see a window, would you watch TV???
For 40 plus years I have tried multiple times but nothing anyone has made for TV can even closely compare to just looking out the window or going outside.
Equal_Membership_923@reddit
They are being selfish pricks. No consideration to your right to enjoyment of your own garden. We go there for peace and to enjoy nature. Not hear the constant noise of a television. I hope it doesn’t get wet…
riwalk55@reddit
Not the norm but basically can get away with anything before 11pm
redheadedsweetie@reddit
The only time we ever had the TV in the garden growing up was for World Cup parties. It's definitely not a normal, every day occurrence.
Intrepid_Baker2480@reddit
no, you live next door to the Clampits
0dd84ll1969@reddit
Nope weird
melanie110@reddit
I feel attacked Matthew
Big_Poppa_T@reddit
For me, It’s the same as playing the radio in the garden.
Bit annoying to listen to but not actually anti-social unless it’s too early/late. If it’s 9am-9pm and not stupidly loud then no need to cause a fuss.
If they’re watching sports in the garden on a Saturday afternoon then it’s really not a big deal. If it interferes with your ability to sleep then knock on and have a word
seeyoujim@reddit
Unless it’s at an unreasonable volume for a long period then no it not unreasonable. You don’t get to police what goes on in not your property unless it is antisocial or illegal behaviour.
NoDeparture3374@reddit
Slippery slope, that, taking manners and consideration out of the equation
Own-Perception1050@reddit
My neighbor lets their two kids play in the garden daily. There are two kids playing the same note on the flute every day unles its raining. It's always the same note, the second holed part of the flute is missing. It's been two years now.
madirishpoet@reddit
I don't think it's that normal but we have neighbours who blast music every sunny day, it's a bit annoying but not the end of the world. It's just what happens when it's sunny, people make noise.
prof_hobart@reddit
It's not normal, but how antisocial it is depends on how loud they have it.
If it's just loud enough to hear it if you happen to be right next to where the TV is, it's probably fine. If it's loud enough to hear in your house, it's too loud. I've got a neighbour who often works down the bottom of his garden and sticks music on in his house so he can hear it. Of course he's got terrible taste (usually somewhere between Max Bygraves and Celine Dion). I don't think he's discovered the concept of headphones yet.
That's really fun when I'm working from home and have to have headphones on so that I can hear my Zoom calls.
Some seem to think that loud music is fine. But they either don't know or don't care just how much of a negative effect constant background (or sometimes even foreground) noise can have on some people's mental health.
autismislife@reddit
It probably varies a lot per area but I've put a TV in my garden before. I don't have neighbours though so there's no concerns about noise.
When I lived in a terraced house I'd occasionally watch some football in the garden on a laptop but it'd be middle of the day with the volume fairly low or I'd have headphones on.
The size of the garden and amount of neighbours probably makes a big difference. Where I live currently (farm) I'd absolutely bring a TV outside, but when I lived in a terraced house I don't think I would.
bowen7477@reddit
If the tv is on, yes.
Free_Ad7415@reddit
No I find this very very odd indeed.
Tbh me and my neighbours are all very considerate and wouldn’t even have music in our gardens. But yeah TV is very strange to me
AnxiousAudience82@reddit
I know a few people that have this set up, I think people really invested in their outside space over covid and now with everything being so expensive are sticking to it. Is it annoying yes, is it any more inconvenient than kids playing, dogs barking and just generally people existing probably not. If it goes outside of allowed hours report it but other than that it’s just the rub of living near others.
0james0@reddit
It's the UK, it rains a lot, they won't be out there often!
Doesn't stop it being annoying, but also a perfectly acceptable thing for them to do.
PrincessPK475@reddit
Noise in the garden is one of those things that just because it's normalised and we can... Doesn't mean we should.
Times have changed... The sheer number and amount of power tools etc. personally I'm all for changing and updating the status quo that we need to be more considerate of our neighbours and noise whatever the day and time.
Life isn't like it was even 25 years ago and people desperately need a break from the never ending sensory overwhelm of modern living.
But that's just my whimsical idealistic dreams and personal ethos... Fact is you're going to get a split camp and need to choose the hills you are prepared to die on.
hippiehappos@reddit
Ours have a hot tub with a tv and play obnoxious music and sing, also terrible music with the windows open every summer weekend and our farm wraps around their house/garden because they live in the barn conversion
macman501@reddit
Playing music or having a tv in the garden that neighbours can here is antisocial.
Technical-Mind-3266@reddit
Back perhaps, front no
ReflexArch@reddit
How different is this to someone having some music playing in the garden? Assuming not insanely loud music but still loud enough to hear.
It's annoying but unless really loud and/or late in evening it is just one of those annoying things that happens isn't it?
Pretty-Handle-9731@reddit
Find the make of the tv and buy a remote so you can switch it off
Witty_Collection_294@reddit
Would 100% buy a signal scrambler off Temu. It’ll fuck your tele up as well but you’d have some peace.
Raging chavs.
PipBin@reddit
I personally hate all noise of music, radio and TV from other people’s gardens but I know that’s my problem.
RadiantTown9154@reddit
Daytime wouldn’t bother me, late night early hours I wouldn’t be happy with
xx_TCren@reddit
Nothing wrong with it but as usual Reddit is showing it's neurotic middle class sensibilites in the comments.
GunclePJ@reddit
I'd be getting a One4All remote and changing the channel, turning it down, switching it off & whatever I could do to make them think it was broken 😂 Just for the shits n giggles. Well, actually, if it was often too loud or ok too late, it'd be because I could 😂
Suspicious-Water-973@reddit
I watch iPad in the garden sometimes but with headphones. No one wants to hear my iPad.
Dan77UK@reddit
I bet they’ve got a dog that barks all day?
LichenTheMood@reddit
Odd. Esp because normal tvs are usually not bright enough outside.
That said they will make noise outside when the sun is out. That is normal.
Fluffy-Eyeball@reddit
Normal? No, it is not. Nor is it neighbourly, couth, or social at all.
Ultimate_os@reddit
It depends how loud it is
Illeaturgerbil@reddit
Maybe the most Reddit thread of all time this
Jturnster89@reddit
Some right snooty cunts on here today. "Tv in the garden, well I never, how uncouth!" At a decent level the noise is no different to a couple of people talking. Do you all treat your gardens like a library?
G0rdon-Bennet@reddit
my thinking was less judging on a class basis, but how the bloody hell are they going to see the screen with the glare from the sun!?
InternalBumblebee7@reddit
Possibly bought an outdoor tv?
Raisinsandfairywings@reddit
I reckon the really varied responses might be because there’s such a variety of different sized gardens.
My instant reaction to the post was “that’d piss me off” but on my street our gardens are all relatively small and back directly onto each other so we’re all cramped in. If someone was watching telly the noise would be inescapable, it’d be like you’re being forced to sit and “watch” it with them without being able to see the screen. I can imagine hearing a bit of tv floating over from the other side of a big garden wouldn’t be too bad though.
mcrrob@reddit
Sat in the garden, in the sunshine 🌞 watching something like the football or listening to music, I dont see anything wring with that. Just keep it down in the evening.
Say10sadvocate@reddit
We take a TV outside once a year for our Eurovision party, that can go on pretty late and be pretty loud.
Luckily my neighbours are pretty cool, we operate a live and let live kinda vibe, you don't moan and bitch about our parties, we don't moan and bitch about anything they do.
Works pretty well.
anotherMrLizard@reddit
Some people do it when there's a big sports event on. For normal TV - no, that would be fucking weird.
HanleySoloway@reddit
sounds like sprinkler season to me
jamnut@reddit
I was sat in my garden watching the football earlier off my laptop doing a bit of sunbathing after some gardening
The volume was loud enough for me to hear from where I was led, and quiet enough that you couldn't hear it if I walked away from it.
It's not tacky, but disturbing your neighbours is.
Ok-Direction-8257@reddit
It's normal if you're scum.
No-Photograph3463@reddit
Not particularly normal tbh. Would be normal however for you to spend all day mowing the grass, strimming and trimming hedges, which might put them off a bit
Plenty_Suspect_3446@reddit
I'd be annoyed. I sometimes have the radio on in my garden when I do my gardening but thats music. TV on a sunny Saturday is a step too far. I like to read in the garden under my apple tree and spent two hours out there today and would be fuming if TV noise was disturbing my reading.
HendersonsFineRelish@reddit
Perfectly normal.
People saying otherwise have probably never owned a garden big enough to build their own bar. Or lack the DIY skills. Or (being more fair) probably don't want to build a bar in their garden.
It's up there with any other wee garden project.
glitterstateofmind@reddit
Agree. I know a few people who have built bars in their garden to a greater or lesser extent (myself included). It became a bit of a fad during lockdown from what I recall.
A lot of the negative comments are probably from a place of envy tbh. It’s no different to having to hear someone playing music or the radio in their garden, which is entirely normal and has been for decades. Rather that than kids screaming obnoxiously all day long (which seems to be socially acceptable).
lungbong@reddit
I once took my laptop out to watch the F1 in the garden, that's the only time in 50 years.
PullUpAPew@reddit
Find out what they're watching and play the same thing through speakers, but with a slight delay
DylboyPlopper@reddit
That sounds far less annoying than the sound of children having fun
carnage2006@reddit
I'm confused by many posts here.
Are we meant to sit in silence in our gardens? I must have missed the memo!
PalaceOfStones@reddit
Sounds like right about now, it's time to drown them out with the biggity Buck Bumble!
blueblue_electric@reddit
Not sure now, but I know someone who had a TV in the garden and they said it has to be a different type of set to stop pollen and other things creeping in.
Raisinsandfairywings@reddit
Oh that would be piss me off.
clutchnorris123@reddit
Cunts on Reddit are insufferable it's only some TV ffs
Head_Journalist_2856@reddit
It depends. Are they on their own or are they hosting an event? Whenever England have their first game in a World Cup or European Championship (kick off times permitting) I host a bbq in my garden and move the TV outside for people to enjoy. I’ve had around 20-30 people round before, I don’t see an issue with doing that. And yes, I do invite my neighbours.
SpudFire@reddit
Yeah I feel for the occasional event it's fine. Everybody has to put up with neighbours being a bit noisy at times.
But if they're out there every night watching corrie followed by Eastenders then it would be irritating. Other people probably want to sit out in their garden on nice days/evenings too but don't want to constantly be listening to somebody else forcing their noise on them.
Trojanguido@reddit
I have had similar problems and a petrol lawnmower with a modified exhaust was an excellent response
Specialist_Emu7274@reddit
I mean I wouldn’t say it’s normal but it’s also not a huge problem. I’m more surprised they can actually see the screen in the sun tbh
Jassida@reddit
I’ll do it for big football tournaments but nothing else
Ravenser_Odd@reddit
Special occasions is fine - TV for big matches, music during a barbecue or a kids birthday party, that sort of thing - but doing it all the time is inconsiderate.
alphahydra@reddit
Entirely dependent on volume level, and how often they do it.
Doing it once in while for a sporting event or garden movie night with friends, with volume at a moderate level, I'd have no issue with.
At an onoxiously high volume level, or at a lower volume level but constant (like they're treating the garden as a living room), then nah, out of order
JonTravel@reddit
I listen to music when I'm in the garden relaxing or working. I have the radio on or some music. Would you find that unreasonable also?
I only ask because I'm 60 and it's something that's been happening as long as I can remember. My neighbor's used to have music if they were using the BBQ or if the kids were outside playing. It never bothered me, im not sure a TV is any different.
Round-Bandicoot-5829@reddit
No more annoying than hearing the loud noise of garden tools and mowers constantly throughout the day, literally as soon as anybody sees a bit of sun! TV definitely unusual. Radios more common, especially if there are workmen around, as they play it louder because they don’t have neighbours.
patchworkcat12@reddit
Still antisocial , our neighbour plays her radio loud, hasn’t she heard of headphones?
9162T1@reddit
Must be turned up really loud, or the speakers are facing you. We've got a TV in our summerhouse at the end of our garden. I put our old surround sound system out there when we upgraded in the house. I'm conscious of not annoying the neighbours so I check the sound outside. Even with the door open, the TV can't be heard from more 10ft from the door.
Watchkeys@reddit
What sort of chaos?
Did you want everybody to fit into what some random people on Reddit would define as 'normal'? Why?
If you don't like what your neighbours are doing, ask them not to, or choose to ignore it. It's not about being 'normal'. People do all kinds of stuff.
cregamon@reddit
Reddit is the worst place as well to ask people to define what is ‘normal’.
Watchkeys@reddit
Yup. Any forum is because people read the thread title and only comment if they have strong feelings.
Most people who don't feel strongly about things don't comment on them, so it's all quite biased, and not representative. Or, at least, there's no way of knowing if it's representative of not, so it's pointless.
TrustVisual1394@reddit
I think it's bonkers to do that and very antisocial.
theNixher@reddit
Get an all in one remote and keep turning it down or off.
RomeoJullietWiskey@reddit
Search for TV B-gone
pollen345@reddit (OP)
Thanks for all the opinions! Really interesting to read the mix. My opinion is day-to-day noisy activities should be in your home, occasional noisy activities are fine for the garden. However, I understand it’s just luck of the draw who your neighbours are and whether your behaviours align! I’ll learn to live with it.
Nannyhirer@reddit
I hate your neighbours.
UKNightWatch@reddit
Plenty of people put TVs in the garden on nice days. Normal? Define normal! Just remember that their are probably things you define as normal that others find odd!
Using a TV in the garden is no worse than using a radio and probably nowhere near as bad as hanging home entertainment speakers out a window. As for the loudness - probably not breaking any laws [within time restrictions]. I know only too well how annoying it can be when a neighbor plays loud music - we have a neighbor who is generally considerate but a friend comes round from time to time and turns car stereo up to ear blistering levels.
Is this behavior normal? Yes [for some]! Annoying? Sometimes. Illegal? Not likely [if within legal time limits]. Inconsiderate - of the 'offender' or of you for being intolerant and trying to dictate how others should 'behave'? It's all about perception!
FewAnybody2739@reddit
It's not normal because either it's bright or rainy, neither of which is good for watching TV.
Noise is fine though, people often have the radio on.
Matt14451@reddit
Radio's not fine either, noise is inconsiderate
Round-Bandicoot-5829@reddit
No. How would you see it properly with sunlight shining on it (not that we get much of that in England)? Do you mean in the evening? We don’t do either, not in the Midlands anyway.
Most_Kiwi3141@reddit
It's so fucking tacky. My neighbours do it too.
Anonymousopotamus@reddit
This is my gripe, too! My brother is shocking for blasting music with explicit lyrics outside and just being generally loud. Just because it's legal during certain hours, doesn't mean it isn't tacky af. I can't stand it!
240psam@reddit
I would do this but use Bluetooth headphones to not be annoying
Parker_Borders283739@reddit
It's weird and really stupid. I hate them.
Odd_Objective_5601@reddit
No, not normal. Not much you can do about it unless the noise is unreasonably loud.
flippertyflip@reddit
My neighbours in an old flat did this. Except I think thiers was just a TV by an open window, which seemed to be open all summer with the TV up loud. It drove me bonkers. It's far worse than someone playing music outside/too loud.
So glad I don't live there anymore.
ExperienceNo1313@reddit
How do you know that they don't get annoyed by listening to you having conversations in your garden? A TV on as background noise (which one assumes thats what it is as you make no complaint about the volume of it) is no different to you talking with friends/family in your garden.
It also says at the bottom of the garden.. I'd say that's actually quite considerate to not put their bar at the top of the garden close to your house and where you are likely positioned.
CosmoPrincess@reddit
People listen to music on speakers constantly during summer, so having a tv on is no different.
You can be annoyed by it, but it won't change anything so I'd invest in some decent noise cancelling headphones if it really bothers you that much
MrJones-@reddit
What is the difference vs it being radio or that playing.
Signed your neighbour
Odd-Accident-3287@reddit
No not really unless the footballs on and you’ve got your mates round in summer , obviously if it’s Tottenham it’s a no go haha , but I don’t know many people who watch tv outside lol
MillsOnWheels7@reddit
Probably watching the FA cup semi final.
It sounds like a one off, occasional thing, so I don't see what the issue is.
It's nice weather (across most of the UK), nothing wrong with sitting in the garden watching the football and having a few beers.
If its obnoxiously loud, then have a moan, fair enough. Or maybe stick on classical FM to drown them out.
DrivenUser7277@reddit
It's not normal to watch tv in the garden or I've never seen or heard of anyone doing so but it's no different than people playing music or having kids run about or generally people enjoying the sunny weather eg a bbq. Whilst tv is a bit weird to me personally it's not an antisocial thing imo (especially if they have a gazebo type thing and are eating outside)
Decent_Confidence_36@reddit
Not the norm but I’d say most people would if they could
Otherwise_Living_158@reddit
I did it during covid so I could watch my team win the league with my mates.
We live over the road from a pub and our neighbour has their sex pond bubbling away at all hours so I didn’t feel any obligation to be quiet.
Decent_Confidence_36@reddit
“Sex pond”…. There’s a story there I need to know, I have a hot tub that could on occasion be classed as a sex pond but I don’t have the bubbles on because I’m slightly autistic and can’t deal with loud noises
BigMagic88@reddit
We all could and yet almost no one is.
At no point have I EVER wanted to watch telly outside
Decent_Confidence_36@reddit
I’ve just read the full post and not just the title… my last neighbour had a tv in there pub shed which was pretty much used only for football on a sunny day so wasn’t an issue for me, some people just don’t consider there neighbours
Decent_Confidence_36@reddit
Hmm.. I did google battery tvs before
kbm79@reddit
As long as they have episodes of Only Fools and Horses on the go in the bar- all is good.
arfski@reddit
Fresh suburban horror unlocked!
LucyLovesApples@reddit
No because I’m have neighbours and I don’t want to annoy them
seeyoujim@reddit
Amongst my neighbours I have someone who routinely starts fire the second anyone hangs up washing, another asshat who spends his time revving his motorbike , driving around the block ( sans helmet ofc) and then back to revving again for hours on end and another who needs dogs that never truly stfu. Imd dream of neighbours who only watch tv.
Old_Entertainer10@reddit
In the daytime you can’t really say much. Isn’t normal for sure but each to their own.
AzzTheMan@reddit
I think we need to know how loud it is. People are seemingly annoyed about the idea of having a TV in the garden, but I don't see anything wrong with it. I usually have music on quietly if I'm lounging around or working in the garden.
SJTaylors@reddit
The only real solution here is speakers outside , volume up, and then fuck off for the day.
I've been where you are with regards to noise issues etc and the council sent me a diary, so that was good.
Left_Set_5916@reddit
I wouldn't say it's normal but it's also their backagraden and as long it's reasonable hours at reasonable volume then let them be.
doegrey@reddit
I don’t know,but I have to say when I was in my first rental we unashamedly set up a massive screen with a bedsheet in our back garden and used a projector to watch movies.
No one complained and it was AMAZING!
Adorable_Stable2439@reddit
Oh…. So the little 20 inch tv that’s in the corner of our summer house that I occasionally get out in the evening to sit and watch in the garden is diabolically rude? Heh, you learn something new every day
TheNelliephant@reddit
Innit, best not listen to music in the sun either
Many_Income_2212@reddit
I assume if you’re playing loud enough for me to hear on the street, I’m allowed to join? I can bring beers
Sonic_The_Hamster@reddit
It's not normal honestly but but nothing wrong with it. I usually listen to music and it can be via headphones/earbuds or it can be via speaker.
I much prefer speaker and the music I like isn't everyone's cup of tea, so if I wanted to enjoy my garden I'd do it with music, that said that would only be after I had spoken to them and they were doing it consistently.
friedman72@reddit
In general, Brits don't give a rat's ass about annoying other people. Whether it's watching TV in the garden, playing your stereo in the park or having your kids run back and forth in a train.
JennyW93@reddit
Weird. I have a garden room, no TV in there but any other activities (listening to music, working from home) happens with headphones
Nandor1262@reddit
No it’s not normal. They’re chavs.
Shyspin@reddit
Reasonable to be annoyed at it, but they're not really doing anything wrong. I used to have neighbours that would blow up a massive bouncy castle that would take up their whole garden at the first sign of sun on any given day, and the noise levels of the constant air pump and the kids jumping around on it was crazy, but I just put up with it until the ***** moved out.
AtomicEdge@reddit
It's unusual, but pretty annoying if they have it loud.
I would say however that it's completely fine and cool to do this for something like a big sporting event.
MadameVP@reddit
We have a TV in our garden an we are in the UK. We have lean to which is like an outdoor lounge area and we enjoy sitting out and watching different sports during the day. Stick the log burner on and watch a film in the evening although I will add we don’t have it on loud and we don’t do it every night until late.
thorn312@reddit
Nah, though when it's hot hot, I run an extension lead our for my laptop and a fan (wfh) and then in my breaks, read a book. Suncream needed of course!
Psychological-Bag272@reddit
My husband sometimes watch football in the garden office. The dogs love chilling in the sun but won't do it unless we are out there with them so this allows us to do both. We won't blast it though, that is a bit odd.
MadJen1979@reddit
No. Definitely not.
NoodleDoodlesocks@reddit
Not normal but not particularly weird either.
MoosesHuman@reddit
I actually love that idea. I couldn't do it myself because I'll always have my parents voice in my head telling me it's absurd and I can get a book and go twenty minutes without the damn TV, but I actually love it.
I lived in Florida for a while and we'd have a TV on the porch, but, that's Florida, they just don't give a shit over there.
TheCookieMonsterYum@reddit
Not normal and why would you want to watch TV outside? Sun glare would be pretty bad
CharlieCatBloke@reddit
This is not normal. Call nhs direct immediately and have them all sectioned.
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