Mali Today - JNIM DShK Motorcycle Technical

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Key-Needleworker-702@reddit

where does the gunner even sit?

i'll be very disappointed if it can't shoot while firing

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dmanbiker@reddit

They need a little trailer like a chariot.

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MZ603@reddit (OP)

That would be a great addition. Maybe they could hitch on a skateboard if the roads were paved.

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MZ603@reddit (OP)

Can you imagine how hard it would be to control the motorcycle with some dude on the back letting that thing rip? lol

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xrelaht@reddit

I would hope it can shoot while firing. What else would it be doing?

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Flamoirs@reddit

I actually think it's a good idea for a fast moving guerilla

It's litteraly a self propelled HMG

You only need o e driver than dismount and don't even need to deploy the gun to shoot

You can carry way faster and way easily way a lot more ammo than on food while staying low profile

It remind me a lot of some ATGM moto or quad some recon unit have in various army

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During the Iran-Iraq War, Iran made great use of dirt bikes for hunting Iraqi tanks. They'd have crews of 2 on each bike, a driver and a dude with an RPG. Combining something like that system (albeit probably with kamikaze drones since they're a bit more effective in 2026) and this mobile HMG setup would probably be a pretty good way for a guerilla organization to tackle actual militaries in an effective manner.

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Clay_Allison_44@reddit

The scary part is that air cooled engine is going to look very exciting to a drone with infrared. The front lines in the Ukraine war are very hard to move around in because of drone surveillance and recon. Of course we have e-bikes now, that's probably the necessary upgrade for stealth.

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arist0geiton@reddit

Dragoon

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lottaKivaari@reddit

I saw an HMG mounted to a wheelbarrow somewhere in Sudan and thought it was hilarious until I saw it being used in city ground combat to shoot and scoot by 2 dudes and realized that it was actually rather effective for putting fire down range. If it's dumb and it works it's not dumb.

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amooz@reddit

I looked at it and found d myself thinking exactly the same way. There’s a deeper understanding of their assignment in this contraption. I’m sure we’ll see something like this get refined over time. One thing I see is the first person to use this to shoot and scoot is going to have severe burns all over their back.

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MZ603@reddit (OP)

I agree. I was going to tag “Non-shitty” but I also didn’t want to have to explain my take. They are effective, efficient, & versatile. There is a reason they are so popular in the Sahel.

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STUPIDBLOODYCOMPUTER@reddit

The four horsemen of the apocalypse:

M2 Browning

MG 42

Maxim Machine Gun

And DShK

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No_Friendship_5215@reddit

That's a W85, not a DShK. The gas tube on the DShK ends before the front site post, the W85 it's all together.

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MZ603@reddit (OP)

A DShK by any other name.

I like this sub because there are informed folks who are capable of this type of ID. If I were still active on Twitter, I would have posted a breakdown of the weapon ID. OSINT Twitter was a gem.

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No_Friendship_5215@reddit

Chinese W85 heavy machine gun, they seem to be slowly replacing the DShK.

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Key-Needleworker-702@reddit

found another photo of the W85 on a mortocycle( http://pewpewpew.work/china/mg/w85/w85.htm ) fyi

W85 is export name, within PLA it's QJC88

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MZ603@reddit (OP)

Whole new level of shoot and scoot.

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MZ603@reddit (OP)

I almost put that in the title. Makes sense to use the W85 on a motorcycle over a DShK, since it’s lighter. It’s a shirt technical, but they are obviously somewhat effective given how widespread they are.

A good number of W85s made their way to the Sahel via Libya. Now China is supplying them to the Junta as well. Even saw Wagner using them over the DShK. I just didn’t want to get into the technicalities.

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MZ603@reddit (OP)

The Sahel is a big Mad Max larp at this point.