Does printing matter?
Posted by Medium-Finger763@reddit | Firearms | View on Reddit | 48 comments
I know 2-3 years ago it would. But today with everyone conceal carrying does it really matter?
Posted by Medium-Finger763@reddit | Firearms | View on Reddit | 48 comments
I know 2-3 years ago it would. But today with everyone conceal carrying does it really matter?
Joice_Craglarg@reddit
Yes and no, but mostly no.
Redditors will tell you nobody notices, but they do. They just tend to not mention it.
My buddy was recently accosted in the grocery store. Some lady was like "I that a gun?" and he said yes, and that was the end of the encounter. She didn't make a big deal, but she definitely noticed and the people near them heard the exchange.
It's not illegal to print, though. Not in my state, at least.
s_m_c_@reddit
Why in the fuck would you ever answer that?
SolenoidsOverGears@reddit
There's two types of people. Those who have families and things to lose and therefore can't be engaging in any sort of thing that would get them trespassed from a property or have to talk to the police. I completely get that.
I'm not. I don't have children, or a wife. So if someone asks "is that a gun?" I just say "yes. I have a permit." Like it's perfectly normal. Because it is. People carry guns and I am one of them. I open carry my Glock 19 sometimes as well. I have a Blackhawk omnivore so I don't really have to worry (as much) about it getting yoinked. Other people have families and lives and can't get bogged down. I can. And normalizing firearms being carried as a part of life is something I can do to be an activist for the second amendment. I dress well, I'm polite, and I fully understand that it's going to cause some people to treat me differently or ask me to leave somewhere.
Also I ride a sport bike. My g48 aiwb just crushes my balls.
goathead9bathory@reddit
I think I’m autistic but some of you guys are way too much into grey man larp. I’m in Oregon and people open carry, no one cares.
s_m_c_@reddit
It's true. 95% of people aren't going to notice you have a gun, of those 5% who do, 95% of them are probably carrying anyways.
Half of these "gray man" fuckers dress like the poster child for "I'm carrying a gun" anyway
DY1N9W4A3G@reddit
Because it's fun! "No, I'm just happy to see you," then walk away. Or "No, that's my colonoscopy bag. Would you like to check it for me?" I could do this all day!
DrunkenArmadillo@reddit
Colostomy*
DY1N9W4A3G@reddit
Yes, thanks.
906Dude@reddit
Why not answer it? Sometimes a straight answer is the best way to end a conversation.
s_m_c_@reddit
If I wanted people to know I was carrying, I'd OC an X-frame
Joice_Craglarg@reddit
Honestly, I have no idea. I would have been like, "that's none of your business," or better yet, just ignored her entirely.
When I asked him, he didn't really have a good answer lol I think she just caught him off guard.
sureyeahno@reddit
Insulin pump would be the easiest answer.
DY1N9W4A3G@reddit
"No, I'm just happy to see you," then walk away. Or "No, that's my colonoscopy bag, would you like to check it for me?"
Early-Series-2055@reddit
“No, that’s the battery for my colostomy pump.”
1Crusty_Old_Man@reddit
Maybe 1% of people are actually carrying.
Bovaloe@reddit
It didn't 2-3 years ago either. People are too wrapped up in their own world and oblivious to the world around them to notice.
AlphaTangoFoxtrt@reddit
I always phrase it like this:
Probably zero. Now for the next week try to find people printing. And then honestly tell me how many people you are SURE were printing and it wasn't just a bunched up shirt or something.
Again. Probably zero.
Unless you're dressed like Dr. Rockso and trying to conceal carry an FAL, nobody is going to notice.
Bovaloe@reddit
K-K-K-K-YEAH!
^^^I ^^^do ^^^cocaine
thecomputerguy7@reddit
but do you freebase?
tangouniform2020@reddit
There were a series of episodes of House Hunters International in Israel where it was clear the agent had a full sized autoloader in SOB. His shirt was tucked in in the front and untucked in the back. Probably a comprimise.
Agammamon@reddit
If you are 'printing' then you are not concealed. So, yes, it matters.
e7ang@reddit
Not everyone carries, in fact a very small percentage of people carry. But to answer your question, no, but not for the reason you may think. People just don't give a fuck about you or what your doing enough to notice.
antariusz@reddit
In my state something like 15% of adults had a concealed carry permit. And then they got rid of the permit requirement. Depends on what your definition of “very small percentage” is.
TacosNGuns@reddit
Used to get you in trouble in Texas. Laws were updated to protect carriers now
Medium-Finger763@reddit (OP)
I do notice that a lot of people don’t really pay attention to their surroundings, most of the time they’re in their phones
firearmresearch00@reddit
It kinda depends but not really. Unless you're wearing skin tight clothes with a desert eagle or a bfr nobody will notice. A compact or a subcompact with normal clothes is basically unnoticeable to the average person and if they do somehow see it, non gun folks aren't even going to immediately assume it's a gun.
MarketEconomist@reddit
I suppose it matters where you live, and the location. But where I am, the laws have been updated to protect printing and non-threatening exposure. And yeah, most people don't notice.
Also, printing at work, if they will fire you, is much different than printing at a Target where they could ask you to leave.
Medium-Finger763@reddit (OP)
I live in FL and I work for myself thankfully
somethingclever1970@reddit
We're open carry and constitutional carry now, so there's no legal penalty for overt printing or accidental exposure. I don't give AF anywhere but work now.
Delta-IX@reddit
HR might make you sleep on the couch, careful.
Artistic_Aioli6843@reddit
here in CT printing your CCW is a felony
Colton_Grundy66@reddit
Wouldn't surprise me. I'd be curious to what your neighbors would say over in Mass as well.
jchqouet71@reddit
No it’s not a felony…..
FabiusBill@reddit
No. We carry so much crap in our pockets, on our belts, etc., that no one knows what they are looking at even if they think they see a bulge of some kind.
I pay a lot more attention to the guys who try to pull off the gray man look. It's like waving a giant sign that says, "ammo drop," in an crpg.
Mynplus1throwaway@reddit
Depends on where you are.
RecklessHorse@reddit
Trying not to print cured me of the millennial tight clothes trend, Gen Z got it right with the looser fits
lundah@reddit
Unless it’s blatantly obvious it’s a firearm, not really. Most people aren’t looking closely enough to notice, and an unspecified bulge at the waistline could also be a medical device of some sort.
Altruistic_Breath808@reddit
Depends on wya.
Medium-Finger763@reddit (OP)
FL
Ok_Muffin_925@reddit
A small percentage of the overall population carries. The average person will freak out if they see someone with a gun whether in open carry mode or concealed but printing. Either scenario can lead to unnecessary and sometimes dangerous law enforcement interactions. So printing does matter.
FortunateHominid@reddit
Worse there are only 3 groups who will most likely notice someone printing. People who carry, LEO, and criminals. The last group is the reason most carry, so best to try and minimize printing.
DwarkFarkward@reddit
Where I live, a relatively high percentage of the population carries concealed. And open carry is also legal, so I carry OWB under my shirt and don't really worry about printing a little.
fuppedduck2@reddit
I notice all the time but I’m subconsciously looking for it. I just take mental note of the person carrying. Printing can get you in trouble if the leo is a type of person because it’s technically not concealed.
chumley84@reddit
When I took my ptc class they showed a video of a guy carrying an AK into a store holding it in the air and no one reacted. You'll be fine if the outline of your pistol shows a little
B1893@reddit
TBH, I don't think it mattered 2-3 years ago.
I worried about it for the first little bit, then started caring less and eventually got to "shirt covers it, it's concealed."
Years ago, I heard/read something like "those who notice won't care, those who care won't notice."
I've carried for over 20 years, and that seems to be an accurate statement.
The one time I know I got made, she just asked if I was a cop. Seemed more curious than anything, didn't seem to bother her at all.
DY1N9W4A3G@reddit
"No one will notice" is the common refrain among the Reddit peanut gallery because so many here think they're the only one who knows what a gun under a shirt looks like and they can't figure out that people with bad intentions often look for printing, so whether grandma at Walmart notices is irrelevant. Not caring about printing unnecessarily creates the same exact issue as open-carry ... If a pending threat knows you're carrying before you draw on them, they typically do one of two things: [1] pick an easier target [2] shoot you first. I prefer to avoid those odds. You do you.
PapaBobcat@reddit
I worry about it living in the DC area but I don't think anyone notices or if they do says anything. I also don't often see anyone watching me more than the usual casual glances. People are busy, on their phones, minding their business, etc.
moving0target@reddit
Nope. Your perception has changed rather than the general public. They don't worry about what isn't right under their zero survival instinct noses.