Would you go on a stag do that involves climbing a mountain?
Posted by Icy-Western-3314@reddit | AskUK | View on Reddit | 319 comments
Hi all,
Thinking about my own stag do and what I’d like to do.
Personally, I’d like to try and organise as much as possible by myself, am not a huge drinker, and would like something that isn’t just getting drunk - been plenty of those and i personally find them a little boring.
With that in mind, I’ve thought it would be a very different change in pace to get the group to accomplish something challenging -Mt Toubkal in Morroco.
I’ve climbed this mountain before and it’s considered one of the easiest 4000m around. You need a guide, and food/shelter at the refuge is provided for you.
If a stag was to suggest something like this do you think people would respond well? My group meet up for the occasional hike in the uk, and a good few of them like camping, so I know they should have a lot of needed gear (boots/sleeping bag - they wouldn’t need anything else if were to do it in summer)
I think accomplishing something like a mountain would just a be cool bonding moment for everyone.
Thoughts?
FletchLives99@reddit
Personally, I would love it. But a 4000m mountain is pretty tough if you're not fit...
pointlesstips@reddit
It's not that bad, coming from an unfit person. The kiddos there run up and down it in flipflops as if it's nothing.
RealLongwayround@reddit
At that height, oxygen limitations and altitude sickness become a feature.
pointlesstips@reddit
It can,true. My response comes from experience.
RealLongwayround@reddit
If you are experienced then you are likely not as unfit as you believe. Anyway, thanks for downvoting things you believe to be true.
pointlesstips@reddit
Experience climbing that specific mountain, as perpetually overweight and unfit person.
RealLongwayround@reddit
You know you are also a randomer on the internet?
pointlesstips@reddit
Yes but I expect I know 100% more about my own health and experiences than another randomer. I don't say their experiences are wrong based on my general knowledge.
RealLongwayround@reddit
It’s a stroke of luck nobody stated your experiences were wrong.
pointlesstips@reddit
Woooooosh
RealLongwayround@reddit
Username checks out
2c0@reddit
My arse would fall out as I'm no good with heights. So I would decline. Also, sounds expensive.
gazchap@reddit
Unrelated to the OPs question, but do you still struggle with heights even when you’re on terra firma and can see the path you’ve come up?
For some reason I always assumed a fear of heights was more to do with being high up but without a “safe” way down (like, looking out over a cliff, or out of the glass window high up a skyscraper, that kind of thing)
2c0@reddit
Sometimes. For me its if I don't have a railing or a wall to hold onto I just go dizzy. If I'm in a building or a plane it doesn't happen. Can't really explain it but it is like I feel I'm about to be sucked off the earth and there is nothing to stop it. Its not really a fear so much as my body just refusing to function, I actually enjoy the views ...
SuperDinkle406@reddit
Gawd, yes.
I could always stop and weight for people on the way down, if the going for too tough. Or even head to the pub.
Agreeable_Archer_210@reddit
In Morrocco?
SuperDinkle406@reddit
Yep, there is always a bar, even in the Atlas mountains
Much-Beyond2@reddit
Be wary of expecting people to pay to go to Morocco for a stag do on top of forking out to attend a wedding. Don't be that guy. Maybe plan something more accessible and plan the international trip another time when people don't feel so much of an obligation to go..
zombiezmaj@reddit
Morocco isnt that expensive to go to. Flight and hotel with breakfast for 5 days 4 nights costs around £150-200
JoeDaStudd@reddit
Plus other meals, drinks and 2-3 days of annual leave.
zombiezmaj@reddit
I willingly use annual leave to hang out with friends.... plus hanging with friends in the sun in another country its a no brainer for me.
JoeDaStudd@reddit
That's fine if your single and no commitments, but if you have kids, help with elderly relatives or even pets it becomes more of an issue.
Most families need to use most of the annual leave during school holidays for child care, so 2-3 days could easily be the floating days needed for child illness or emergencies.
Holiday_Cat_7284@reddit
Lol just the drink at the airport will cost that
zombiezmaj@reddit
Airport prices are hardly something you measure by.
Dont know how some of you are travelling... some of you are talking about this costing 1-2k! Only if youre staying in 5* resorts. Honestly wild.
Holiday_Cat_7284@reddit
Even at £300 all in, it's a lot to ask someone to fork out for someone else's wedding. My own wedding only cost £1k in total. I don't have the cash to spend over £100 on amyone I'm not sleeping with or didn't give birth to.
I'm not slating climbing in Morocco, it sounds fabulous. Just not for a stag do.
Pyjama365@reddit
I get that, and think that's completely reasonable. But I've been on 4-day hen trips abroad multiple times for under £500, including a moderate amount of booze. Meanwhile one of my friends was recently asked to fork out £400+ to stay in some house in the UK for 2 nights, figuring out transport yourself, and with no particular activities planned other than 'girlie' stuff in the house. I don't mind paying a couple of hundred to do fun stuff with friends if it seems a reasonable price for the actual stuff planned. I see it as an excuse to have a fun trip with friends, not specifically a trip entirely about someone's wedding.
zombiezmaj@reddit
My wedding cost just under 15k... but I've willing before and after spent £500-1000 for attending friends weddings and graduations (I have friends in different countries so flying is very much a part of the friendship)
arenaross@reddit
Absolutely no chance.
zombiezmaj@reddit
Very easily actually. And Morocco is set up where you pay more for activities based on where youre staying.
We were at a 2 hotel and paid equivalent of £50 each for a day trip including food up into the mountains. The people we picked up from 5 resort paid £200 each. Same trip. They just got picked up last and dropped off first. Everything else was exactly the same.
Morocco is very cheap and easy to get around and do activities. Its only a place with problems id youre obsessed with drinking alcohol. Then you can only eat at the most expensive places that do serve some alcoholic beverages.
ImABrickwallAMA@reddit
People don’t realise how cheap it actually is to get flights these days. Poland is often in a similar price bracket to what you’ve mentioned!
Vast-Slip-@reddit
I doubted it myself but they're not wrong.
Flight to Fes from Stansted 4th Jun > Return 11th June = £38 with Ryanair (pre-baggage)
Hotel on booking.com for those same dates, 4 star? €130
arenaross@reddit
Well there you go then. We're all off to Fes.
Vast-Slip-@reddit
Fes! Fes! Fes! Fes!
Pyjama365@reddit
I found it extremely cheap, but OP needs to do the quote-gathering to show the affordability.
For every international hen party I've had, the bride or the bridesmaid in charge of hen organising has sent around proper costings info with the invite to the hen:
"We want to take X flight, which we expect to be £x, and booking should open on x date. We will co-ordinate texts to remind you to book while it's cheap. We want to stay at x, where twin rooms are £x/night, so likely to be £x per person in total for 4 nights. Transport costs while there are likely to be £x/day. Meal costs will vary by day, but we expect to keep lunch quite cheap (£5-10), and dinners are likely to be £10-20 for food per day + drinks. We therefore think planes + accomodation should be £300, other costs largely depend on how much you eat and drink, and we're intending to save up £100/month in the 6 months we have to until the date. We hope that's affordable to the vast majority of you but understand it may not be possible for everyone."
b3ta_blocker@reddit
But even 'affordable to the vast majority of you' is a bit passive aggressive. If its a small group of very close friends then you would probably already know each others budget and what you would find fun etc. But if its one of those things with different groups of people all meeting for the first time, some from school, some from work, in my opinion you should just do something small that you know everyone can afford, or you have separate ones. For some people I think being told they need to save £100 a month for the next 6 months would be misery-inducing.
Pyjama365@reddit
My understanding was that it was said as a get-out option so people didn't pressured to say yes, and we wouldn't ask questions if people declined for whatever reason.
The first time, the result was that the home friends who were not as financially well-off appreciated the planning and the option to dip out without pressure, but we all signed up. The budget was clearly planned with us in mind, including the intention to book private hostel rooms rather than a hotel.
I think that first one was actually under £50 each way for planes and £35/night for 3 nights hostel, so only about £200 down before food and drink. I was just using random figures and adjusting a bit for inflation and that we're in different places in life now.
The first one just kinda set the bar for how we did it in future.
b3ta_blocker@reddit
Its not an easy job to do! My reference point is a story my friend told me about a stag do he went on. The groom was from a village in Wales and from a very poor background. He had kept in touch with his school friends but had moved to London, got a job in a bank and had become quite rich. For his stag do he wanted to go to Marbella. He invited his old friends and said 'I understand that this might be very expensive for you and you don't have to come'. But they said no, no, you are our friend and we'll make it happen. On the first night they went out for dinner, and towards the end the rich friends just kind of disappeared and the school friends were left with the bill. They didnt have enough credit on cards, or cash or anything to pay but somehow managed to pay it between them. When they caught up with one of the bankers they went completely apeshit - 'you've humiliated us on purpose. You think you are better than us because of your job?' and a physical fight broke out. The groom was literally in tears and just saying 'please I'm sorry, please...' and so on. As someone who feels uncomfortable making completely normal social interactions with people, all of this sounds like my absolute worst nightmare.
Pyjama365@reddit
Oh god, that does sound awful. What happened with our groups the second time, when there was a clear split in financial position, is that the back-home friends all said yes, and the better-off uni friends all said yes initially, stayed largely silent for a few months, and then all messaged the planning chat within about 2 hours of each other to drop out the day before the planes needed booking (including two of them who 'forgot' they'd booked to run a marathon on the weekend of the trip?). It was fine cos Chief BM had booked hostel options that could be amended, but we certainly did not get the impression that anyone ever dropped out of one of our group trips due to finances.
I guess it depends on the planner being considerate of initial budget and also doing a bit of research on restaurants, etc, so they have a few affordable options in mind before you even get there.
If OP's friends aren't into mountains already, then the cost of travel and cost of equipment (/hiring stuff?) very likely could be off-putting, even if they're happy to give the activity itself a try.
b3ta_blocker@reddit
I suppose the test would be, if it wasnt his stag do and he emailed his friends and said 'would any of you like to come with me to Morocco to climb a mountain?', how many of them would say yes.
Personal-Listen-4941@reddit
I could afford to spend £1000 on a stag do in Malta or wherever, that doesn’t mean i want to spend £1000 on a stag do.
This is often overlooked by people who want these expensive stag/hen dos. I’ve got plenty of other things i’d rather be spending my money on.
Haunting_Hour_4556@reddit
Likewise. For comical reasons I have ended up organising 7 stag dos for mates and a first stage is always asking them about the kind of vibe they want and what sort of per head budget they think will work for the group.
For some, we've had a few nights away somewhere with 2-3 planned activities, for others we've just smashed a big taco lunch then gone out to watch wrestling. The international weekends away almost always total out to be less than a lot of the UK based ones.
Horfield@reddit
That sounds incredibly organised - unfortunately none of the stags I've been on come anywhere near to that. They tend to just figure out things a long the way.
b3ta_blocker@reddit
It's a girl though innit.
Horfield@reddit
I do think Hen's can be a lot more considerate of input and other people's finances, but have also heard of some total diva stuff too.
Affectionate_Comb_78@reddit
Honestly the amount it can cost to do something in the UK it could be cheaper
anonimity_is_best@reddit
Been on leads of stag doo’s and by far the worst was one that put us in a situation few would be comfortable with - we went caving. Think The Descent but with less monsters, but still as terrifying.
HollyHor28HH@reddit
Omg that sounds horrific.
anonimity_is_best@reddit
I mean, it was memorable 😂😭
Genuinely one of the worst experiences of my life, in or outside of a stag doo.
HollyHor28HH@reddit
I watched a documentary once about someone caving & there was a sudden rain storm & he almost drowned. Also the guy who died in Nutty Putty caves. NOPE.
Hara-Kiri@reddit
Yes because I like climbing mountains. I would expect most my friends not to go if I were to arrange it for a stag though.
Easy_Effort7985@reddit
I like the idea but I am very outdoorsy and enjoy an adventure. I’m sure a lot of people would be put off or find it too overwhelming of a prospect. However. It’s a good way to weed out the boring types. I’m sure the few that would come would be the best type of people to spend your stag do with.
Tvdevil_@reddit
the boring types because they dont want to spend bonding time climbing a mountain and going into debt to do it?
its a stag. I'm guessing you have never been invited to one?
stag do's are not the place to be a fitness freak. its the place to have fun, embarrass the groom in a playful way and do a variety of things with the groom having all his best mates having a ball together. far from boring.
OK_Cake05@reddit
The OP said his friends go hiking. So hiking trip would not be out of the ordinary to them.
Also why were you assuming they are going into debt for it.
And that maybe your idea of a fun stag but everyone is different.
Tvdevil_@reddit
they occasionally go hiking in the UK. I occasionally climb munros - I would never in a month of sundays want to go on a stag do where the whole point is to climb a munro thats taller than almost any in the UK.
its not exactly a cheap stag is it. they might they might not the fact OP is asking if its too much suggests he knows its touch and go if they want to or can even afford to go.
expecting someone to pay 500-800 quid for a weekend away on top of wedding presents to attend a stag is textbook hubris.
OK_Cake05@reddit
You may not want to but his friends might. You may not be able to afford £500-800 but they may not be out of reach to others. and the OP didn’t state any costs so it could be cheaper than that.
Not everyone likes drinking or wants to be embarrassed; nothing wrong with trying to do something more meaningful. It’s an interesting and different idea.
Tvdevil_@reddit
his friends may - the fact hes asking on reddit and not asking his friends is very telling though. if he was so sure they would... hed say to them not ask a reddit if its too much. this is why the best man arranges these things not the groom. it stops posts like these being a thing.
Weird to imply I cannot afford 500-800 - weird irrelevent dig.
the odds of someones 20-30 friends all having £500-800 lying around for a stag is a bit fanciful. people have lives. families, jobs. other priorities.
OK_Cake05@reddit
You are assuming the OPs friends can’t afford £500–800. His friends already hike, Morocco is a relatively close, and low cost country to travel to and around; the idea is not far fetched. If they don’t want to go, they don’t have to Don’t be so closed minded to new/different ideas.
Tvdevil_@reddit
Im correctly assuming not all his friends will have the same disposable income as him. they wont all be at the same stage of life, they wont all have the same free time from work or be able to get away from family
Morocco is a 3.5+ hour flight from london. its not that close for a weekend away.
7 hours flight (+3 hours each side in the airport) over a weekend (which is the majority of stags) is a hell of a long time.
im not being closed minded. i'm laying out the pitfalls. the occasional hike in the UK is not the same as climbing a munro the same height as the UK's tallest peak in the heat of africa.
if they can do it fair. but hes asking on reddit and not his pals. which is telling.
OK_Cake05@reddit
3.5 hours is not long. We don’t know how many people are in the friends group or we don’t know their tax brackets.
There are pitfalls in doing a trip in the UK. If well organised this is not a far fetched idea.
Poor guy deleted the post with everyone’s negativity!
Tvdevil_@reddit
3.5 hours minimum + 3 hours in the airport each way for just a weekend?
to say over 10 hours airport and flights over 2-3 days isnt alot is mad
its over 4 hours flight time if not based in southern england too.
OK_Cake05@reddit
I’ve don’t that for a day trip. People fly to NY for a weekend. It’s not an insurmountable task.
Tvdevil_@reddit
yeah not unsurmountable - but the last thing a group of friends would want to do is spend half a day in airport and planes for a stag do for just a weekend away.
Easy_Effort7985@reddit
Why do you have to go into debt? Been invited to a few. Best one was camping, kayaking and archery. Worst one was go karting and just getting pissed. I think your idea of fun and mine might be slightly different. Stick to getting pissed if that appeals to you.
Tvdevil_@reddit
Not everyone is loaded. the chances of someone's 20 pals all having 6/700 lying around to go trek up a mountain is a bit fantasy.
yeah clearly our ideas of fun are - though no where did i say just getting pissed was the whole point of a stag - thats just you adding that in.
you calling people who dont want to spend a stag at a fitness retreat boring is a bit sad. reflect not everyone lives life to work out. some want to have fun in a social setting.
Easy_Effort7985@reddit
You realise there are people in this world who have friendship groups with 6/7000+ lying around? Not us, I know. But it’s easy to forget how the other half live.
Tvdevil_@reddit
yeah
guess what - those friendship groups with 7k lying around dont post on reddit asking if its too much to ask of them to go to morocco.
Easy_Effort7985@reddit
How on earth would you know what financial demographic does and does not post on Reddit
Tvdevil_@reddit
if his friends all had that money lying around he would not be worried and posting on reddit asking if its too much to ask of them. the fact hes asking on reddit if morocco is too much to ask, shows he knows atleast some will not be able to or want to go.
its like talking to a toddler now. come on. basic ability to read between the lines needed here.
AdSlow973@reddit
congratulations on being the most interesting person in the world unlike those terrible bores who don’t want to spend thousands going to a far off country with people they vaguely know
Easy_Effort7985@reddit
Thank you 🤩
Canipaywithclaps@reddit
Middle ground.
Hire a big house in the lakes or Scotland- that gives the opportunity for hikes and overnight camping if you want, but also time for just stag do lad behaviour
OK_Cake05@reddit
That will probably be more expensive than going abroad 😅
Canipaywithclaps@reddit
Really? My mates have done it for super cheap. It probably depends a bit on how many people
PaulJMacD@reddit
Yeah this seems like the obvious answer to me.. I'd be saying no to Morocco
JustUseDuckTape@reddit
I mean, I have no interest in hiking up mountains and couldn't afford a trip to Morocco, so no. But in principle - if it was something I enjoy and could afford, then sure. If I got invited to cycle around the lake district for a weekend I'd be 100% up for it.
Tvdevil_@reddit
few things to unpack
1) Thats an expensive stag. dont be that guy. stags are meant to be cheap weekends away where the stag gets a bit embarrassed everyone has a good time. No one goes on a stag to pay loads of money, do exercise and pay wages to a guide
2) its not easy if you need a guide.
3) its meant to be the best man that arranges the stag, not the groom - that way it eliminates all the awkward chat of "i want to do something different and expensive" and no one being keen.
4) this all comes from you wanting to climb a mountain because you dont drink much and you think its an easy climb and you think its a bonding moment and you think its a nice thing to do in a foreign country. You're meant to be the center of attention true - but it'll not be from a place of happiness if the friends are all 500+ quid deep and someone hurts themself in africa.
beeruk@reddit
Nah this is bullshit. If OP wants to control his stag and invite his best mates to complete a agree experience then I think that sounds good. Surely his mates know what he's like.
Typical drinking stags are the fucking worst. And will cost the same as this trip I can guarantee you.
Tvdevil_@reddit
If stag wants to drag his friends on an expensive fitness retreat that is entirely up to him
but unless all his friends are happy at 8+ hour flights and 400 quid on flights alone + hotel + guide he'll not have anyone go, if he has rich pals whose life is all about the outdoors and breaking the mold of what a stag is; he's good to go
if they are normal lads who like a drink and having fun - fat chance they'll go
Your opinion on typical drinking stags, a minority one too.
But lets not kid ourselves a flight or train to bristol or newcastle and staying in a 2 star hotel for a weekend is the same cost as a flight to africa and paying a guide to go up a mountain. with all the hotel, tourist tax, (and based on OP post, buying all the equipment), insurance costs on top; thats hilarious.
beeruk@reddit
Mate it's Morocco not Djibouti. It's a 3 hour flight and will cost less than a return ticket to Newcastle.
Also Newcastle really lool, in a 2 star hotel hahaha. I fear we are very very different people. If my mates organised a stag in Newcastle I'd be ripping up their wedding invite.
OP you do you. It's your stag. Run it by your pals and be prepped for push backs have an alternative ready.
My stag is gonna be a big house in Scotland wilderness with a snooker table and big hiking plans. Gives the best of both worlds.
Don't go to Newcastle hahaha
Tvdevil_@reddit
its a 3.5 hour flight from london. longer if northern.
7 hours on a plane on a 2-3 day stag is alot.
Yeah thats fair bud. I'm less shallow and base it on fun had rather than the optics of going to a city i dont like. more about the people than the destination - but then my and my pals can have fun anywhere
beeruk@reddit
If you can have fun anywhere then a little Morocco trip with the lads would be a good experience for you ;)
Tvdevil_@reddit
Ach its ok - me and the boys can save 800 quid and go watch the football and have just as much fun. which is what I mean by we can have fun anywhere - dont need to spend hundreds to force it x
Hoppy-pup@reddit
Maybe OP and his pals can afford it. If not, then yeah, not cool.
Also, often guides are mandated by governments to squeeze cash out of tourists.
Tvdevil_@reddit
maybe - but again, stag do's are not fitness retreats. so I'd bet my house that most of them will see a hot climb up a mountain in africa as far from fun.
this is why the best man or groomsmen organise this stuff, not the groom. as this groom shows - making all about what they want to do which not how a stag is meant to be.
Agitated_Parsnip_178@reddit
Yeah this is a silly idea by OP. Why not ask your friendship group rather than Reddit - they're the ones who'll be reluctantly telling their girlfriends 'well it's what X wanted for his stag' as they squeeze their boots into a tiny holdall. (And I love hiking mountains abroad).
WGD23@reddit
Mountain? Yes. Morocco? No. Not for a stag doo.
zombiezmaj@reddit
OP says they're not interested in drinking at all so Morocco would kinda be perfect for that
AdSlow973@reddit
you can not drink in any country without having to pay thousands to go there
zombiezmaj@reddit
Are you high? There are soooo many countries you can fly to less than £500
Swayfromleftoright@reddit
Why is everyone acting like Morocco is so expensive? It’s cheap as fuck, comparable to Spain or somewhere
CptCave1@reddit
What flights are you looking at? I quickly searched and see flights starting at `£220 return
tessathemurdervilles@reddit
Starting.
CptCave1@reddit
Thousands? top price i am seeing is 440 and thats two flights as I am not near a hub like London
WGD23@reddit
OP doesn't say that at all. They say, not a big drinker so something that isnt JUST getting drunk. A big difference.
Morocco can be a rewarding place to go for sure. But for a stag doo? Hell no
AlephMartian@reddit
Side point: is it a "stag doo" or a "stag do"? I always assumed the latter (because you "do" something) but could be wrong.
newbornunicorn25@reddit
‘Doo’ isn’t a word, so ‘do’
C4mbo01@reddit
My thoughts were mountain yes, can I come
Morocco, no not that bothered now
Op choose a better place but do what you want
fr1234@reddit
Interested in why not bothered by Morocco? Marrrakesh wasn’t for me. Far too hectic for my liking. But once out of the city, particularly in and south of the Atlas it was fantastic. Breathtaking scenery and the people (outside of the tourist hotspots) were wonderful and kind
tessathemurdervilles@reddit
It’s expensive and takes out a lot of your time.
Tvdevil_@reddit
because its a stag do, not a holiday. its meant to be cheap accessible and fun
Morocco aint cheap, it certainly aint accessible 4+ hours there and the same back in a single weekend isnt worth it.
its not everyones cup of tea for fun either.
Cramby63@reddit
Not saying Morocco is a good option for a stag, but Morocco is cheap. Cheap flights, cheap food, and nice accommodation can be had for a bargain
ceffyl_gwyn@reddit
It's not about Morocco. It's about having a stag be an expensive overseas trip.
Going hiking is a great stag. You don't need to go abroad to do that.
Cakeo@reddit
Because I'm not booking a holiday to Morocco for a stag
glitterswirl@reddit
Mount Snowdon in Wales. 😁 Hike for those who want to, train for those who don’t, cafe at the top.
johnsonmlw@reddit
Affordable, thoughtful regarding time commitment, challenge available and something for everyone.
Princes_Slayer@reddit
Stay in Betys and have a few drinks to celebrate the climb that night
Emperors-Peace@reddit
I'd be up for it. But probably only fork out for something like this for one or two of my closest friends. Anyone else and I wouldn't.
Flight alone would be a couple hundred quid minimum, once you factor in hotels, food, spending money and the guide etc whilst probably very cheap in Morocco, still edging towards a grand for the trip.
Not many people would be happy spending a grand on a stag do.
djw2011@reddit
Agree with others here. It's a bit more on the expensive side for a stag-do, especially with cost of everyrhing going up. You may be asking a lot of the people your inviting when you could do similar in the Lake District, Snowdonia or somewhere more affordable.
I'm not saying your idea is a bad one, but youre asking people to a stag-do, to do something different to the norm, for a more expensive cost. Think you may find some people you really want to be there & who want to be, won't be able to make it due to cost.
PsychologicalLayer57@reddit
I'd be fine with the mountain aspect. But this sounds expensive. Like, very expensive. I thought you meant a UK day hike from the initial description. Unless you can pay for everyone, or you know for a fact that everyone involved has plenty of spare money and annual leave and would voluntarily spend it on this kind of thing anyway, don't be that guy who makes people shell out hundreds and take off work for a "holiday" they didn't choose on top of all the expenses that go with coming to the wedding.
Personal-Listen-4941@reddit
Yes. There’s a huge difference between an afternoon climbing Snowdonia and a multi day trek including guides & summit camps in Africa.
One is a perfectly normal thing to do as part of a stag weekend, the other is insane to expect anyone who isn’t already heavily i to the hobby to do.
PsychologicalLayer57@reddit
Yes, unless a multi day trip to another continent to climb a 4000m peak is already a typical weekend for everyone who would be going, it's a nope.
nhilistic_daydreamer@reddit
That’s what I was picturing too, a nice easy hike in the Lake District or something.
b3ta_blocker@reddit
Was giving off Trainspotting vibes
harryhardy432@reddit
Listen man, it's your choice and you know your friends BUT I recently went to a wedding and they suggested Amsterdam for the stag and I was highly likely to not go because I didn't have the money for it. All well and good you having the money but if your mates don't then your stag will be pretty lonely. Just consider this.
nderflow@reddit
I did! About 20 years ago. It's a fun memory that has really such with me.
The event was organised by the groom's sister. We climbed a very small "mountain", Scaffell Pike in England. We camped about 2/3 of the way up and had a good time. We brought food with us and one of my memories of the event is when somebody pulled out of their backpack. The biggest black pepper grinder I think I have ever seen in my life. They had carried this pepper grinder all the way up the mountain just for this big reveal during the meal. That was funny.
The following morning most of the party continued to walk up to the summit of scaffold Pike, while two of us went via a different route and did some rock climbing to summit the mountain by climbing up a cliff on on one side of it called Scaffell Crag. It's actually very easy climbing, but I got a lot of fresh air to blow the cobwebs of my hangover away. That was kind of fun.
Haunting_Hour_4556@reddit
Unless you know the group really well and that they'd all be up for it, I would just stick to something like Snowdon or something in the lakes. A lot easier to do in a weekend, less training+equipment and possibly cheaper.
Temporary-Zebra97@reddit
It wouldn't be for me, I tend to avoid the time consuming and spendy activities.
MrMotorcycle94@reddit
I wouldn't want to book time of work and spend all that Money for a stag, even if I would enjoy the activity
Appropriate-Falcon75@reddit
One of my friends did the 3 peaks challenge for his stag do.
I would say yes to climbing a mountain, no to Morocco. Unless it is just the wedding party going (so maximum 5 people) and it is a shared dream.
hb16@reddit
I love the pub but I would go hiking since I love the outdoors too. I think the idea of not doing the usual getting pissed is fine and probably good in some ways but I'd personally have an issue with the location and the challenge. If I want a challenge like that, I'd want to be selective on who I go with - you might get on with everyone well but how are they with each other? I'm not sure I'd want to go abroad for any stag do either. It's a faff it's expensive etc. For them it's a cost for the stag do and also your wedding itself (clothes, travel, accommodation, present etc). So, while the idea is an interesting one, I personally wouldn't go for it. If I'm your close friend and we get on really well when things are tough, then I'll be happy to go on a separate trip (non stag do) for a hiking challenge thing, still unsure about Morocco though
Significant-Map-7620@reddit
Only you can know this of your group. If it's within their budgets and you think they would like it, given the hikes you've done in the UK, then go for it. Otherwise perhaps you should consider doing another hike in the UK. Have they done Ben Nevis? Maybe that would be an easier pill to swallow. Don't make it about them accomplishing something though
TheRealGabbro@reddit
You seem to intent on minimising the number of friends (because that’s who should be coming on your stay do plus possibly father in law and other close relatives) who would be comfortable with it. Firstly not everyone likes climbing mountains and secondly not everyone can afford the cost of a trip to Morocco and the equipment and thirdly nor can everyone afford the time off work or away from their loved ones and family.
A stag do isn’t about bonding over some existential experience, it’s about mates having a good time.
Reassess your plans and so something inclusive.
Karloss_93@reddit
I went hiking for my 30th birthday with friends who weren't really outdoorsy sort. They'd do the odd hike if it was Snowden or Scafell. It was an easy hike for me, but a bit challenging for them. That was fine though, it was more about spending some time together.
We went to the Peak District and did a walk for a few miles that stopped off at a pub for some dinner and drinks.
Then we spent the night with a private booking at a YHA Hostel. You have to sleep in bunks, but people would probably prefer that to camping if they already aren't keen.
Benefit of the hostel was it's cheap, you can take your own beer, have utilities to cook breakfast in the morning and most of them also have a games room. We spent the night playing cards, pool and table tennis whilst enjoying a bottle of whiskey.
If it's a big group I'd recommend doing a private booking. If your a small group and not going to be too rowdy then you could just book a couple of dorms out.
All in it probably cost us about £50 each for the night and we got 2 days on the Peaks. Unless it was someone really close to me there's no way I would go to another country for a stag do.
A friend organised for us to go camping for his 30th near Bristol and he wanted us to rent bikes to cycle into the city for evening drinks. About half the group sacked it off and got a taxi so missed half the day.
Asuperniceguy2@reddit
I can't imagine flying to Morocco to hire a guide to try survive a mountain. Maybe I'd jostle the idea of like one of the three peaks or something. And like think about an activity within that activity to make it a bit staggy? Depending on the friend group that might be anything from shots and homoeroticism to bird watching (who can spot bird x first?You win a tea cosy!) but keep cost in mind.
72dk72@reddit
1) are you paying for everything? 2) I can't see if being viable. 3) you don't have to have a stag do 4) why now just do it nearer to home , do the 3 peaks or something.
giveitsometechno@reddit
Absolutely not. Ludicrous idea. Pub and drugs...that's it.
heyyouupinthesky@reddit
I'd be well up for this, I love Morocco, have always wanted to do Toubkal and know the hike isn't that challenging. When's the trip? Seriously, if your friends don't want to go and it's what YOU really want to do then find people who do 👋
Clamps55555@reddit
How much is your stag do costing me? I’m ok spending £200/300 on a stag do but over that and it’s becoming a bit more of an imposition.
Mistehsteeve@reddit
Hard pass on that one, and don't suggest it to your wife for the honeymoon either.
conyva@reddit
I think it’s a good idea if it suits your type of group OP.
I don’t think the majority of people replying have either been to Morocco or know just how cheap both travelling there and/or doing Mt Toubkal is. For that reason, you’d have to spell this out to your group.
Probably depends on how old you all are & how many stags you’ve been on too. I’m going on a euro weekend for a stag this summer, where I suspect I could spend as much on accommodation and alcohol as you’d spend on your whole trip. It’s our first of the group though and we’re all in our 20s.
VagabondOfLancashire@reddit
You can always put it forward to your friends as a serious suggestion and see what they say. They'll only say yay , nay or something a little closer and shorter for whatever reasons. ATB
Darren_heat@reddit
If this is your way of inviting me it's a big YES bro. 😘
heyyouupinthesky@reddit
Me too Daz, has he sent the date through?
ross-dirext-words137@reddit
You need to pick a well tracked mountain that teenages could walk up during a school trip. Your friends are getting older and will have bad hip, knees ect. So don't expect everyone to be thrilled.
It's not the worst idea. I just depends how inclusive it is to your friend group.
heyyouupinthesky@reddit
Teenagers do Toubkal for the Duke of Edingborough awards, it's not a particularly challenging hike by all accounts.
merlin252@reddit
Toubkal is absolutely school trip material, even if there's surprise April snow and you end up with crampons and ice axes...
Source: School trip.
Icy-Western-3314@reddit (OP)
Thanks all for the replies. Sounds like I’m Being a bit optimistic on what I could realistically expect people to do.
A couple of people mentioned time sink, and for reference last time I did the mountain it was over two days on a weekend - so if you’re interested in it I’d highly recommend.
But yes, I think maybe something more adventurery in the UK would be better. I’ve since come across Honister slate mine via Ferrata which looks fun and could hit the itch
Nectarine-999@reddit
You can never please everyone. I wanted to do that coasteering until I found out that one of our group couldn’t swim and some had a serious fear of heights. Ended up doing a shitty drunken weekend in a uk city with an activity thrown in that you can do any day of the week.
Op. I love the idea. Can I come? 🤣
No_Story5313@reddit
A stag do ideally (but not definitely) should be something done over a weekend, maybe a day on either side as a wraparound if you're going abroad.
In additon to everything else, you'd have to consider people having to book leave off work too.
How many days would yoy expect this to take? For example, if I had to book a week off work, I wouldn't be overly happy, and I know my wife would be even less so....
Expecting people to commit to travel and time when they may have other life responsibilities - childcare, businesses etc - maybe too much.
CapableSong6874@reddit
You know your friends. Do they hike? Have time and spare money?
GangVocals@reddit
Sounds class to me, but as this thread proves a lot of people simply would have no interest in it.
Only you know your mates and whether they'd be keen for something like this.
Maybe plan the trip and invite who you want to but make it clear there is no obligation and you don't expect them all to attend. And then maybe arrange a wee night out or something locally so those who aren't up for it can still celebrate with you.
81misfit@reddit
Yes. Because it’s what the stag would want to do.
The travelling to Morocco part and the costs of that may be the hang up. Is there a mountain closer to home (snowdon etc) that might be more justifiable
ringadingdingbaby@reddit
Have it in the UK somewhere, and give people the option.
If you've booked accommodation, those who want to hike can and if there's anyone who can't manage they can get things organised for the evening or go for a drink/lunch together.
The most I'd go for a stag is a weekend, and Morocco is too far for that.
CautiousCat24@reddit
Morocco doesn’t sound great for a stag especially if anyone else in the group likes a drink. Hiking more broadly sounds great though.
hairychris88@reddit
I once went on a stag where we went hiking in the Brecon Beacons. It was brilliant - not overly strenuous, chance to have a chat without just getting increasingly pissed in the pub, and it was no more than a 4 hour drive for anyone (we were all dispersed quite widely around England).
I think we rented a small youth hostel for a couple of nights and barbecued food that we'd bought from Lidl. From memory the whole weekend cost me about £120 all in, including petrol. And it was fantastic.
JohnCasey3306@reddit
It's the sheer arrogance of it ... 'This is my hobby, you have to do it with me'.
Go on a mountain climbing trip the weekend before, then the following weekend just have a normal fucking low-effort stag do.
Cantaloupe-Hairy@reddit
Not a chance, hiking to the toilets in spoons is bad enough
Busy-Day-1582@reddit
I’d personally love climbing a mountain on a stag, but as others have said, not a 4000m in Morocco! Get yourself some funky outfits and go up Ben Nevis for a day, or if you’re really jonesing for some grit hike to Inverie (most remote pub in mainland Britain) from Fort William. Theres whiskey at the end….
JohnCasey3306@reddit
That sounds horrendously irresponsible.
Inexperienced mountain climbers, not focusing on mountain climbing, hopefully no alcohol involved.
Sagegreenlama@reddit
Find a lovely mountain in the UK that you can climb together for the first time.
Resonance_one@reddit
100% yes.
With a hangover? 100% no.
ServerLost@reddit
Wouldn't expect a big turnout but you do you.
DoKtor2quid@reddit
Ask them
OccidentalTouriste@reddit
My concern would centre more on the cost than the topographic challenge.
bl4h101bl4h@reddit
Cheaper than a boozy long weekend in Magaluf.
axbosh@reddit
Probably cheaper than a long boozy weekend in Brighton or Bristol too.
Distinct_Ad_5598@reddit
As a Brighton resident, even a weekend trip to the moon would probably be cheaper than a stag down here.
tiorzol@reddit
It's the time sink as well. Not sure how old OP is but it's incredibly hard to get away for a weekend in a group when you get a bit older
Stealth_bummer_@reddit
I would be all over that. It’s your stag do so you get to pick the activity.
“Those that mind don’t matter and those that matter don’t mind”
Eyupmeduck1989@reddit
You buried the lede here. As others have said, mountain is ok, mountain in Morocco is not.
This seems to be more of a you thing. If you want to do this, I would suggest you do your own holiday, but don’t strong arm other people onto it for the stag.
Your best man should be organising this, taking into account people’s finances, time off, and other accessibility requirements. A 4000m mountain might be ok for you, but for a lot that would’ve a challenge!
blahehblah@reddit
There are plenty of good mountain weekends in the UK. You could do the 3 peaks challenge or one of the ridge line routes in the peak district
Wil_Cwac_Cwac@reddit
OP I think this sounds awesome. You know your friends and their budgets better than we do. If you think the money isn't an issue then I say go for it
RealLongwayround@reddit
If you are experienced then you are likely not as unfit as you believe. Anyway, thanks for downvoting things you believe to be true.
Distinct_Ad_5598@reddit
Put the feelers out to the group and see what people are saying. That’ll be the best way to gauge, not a group of complete strangers.
Work out a rough budget and also work out a rough budget for a weekend on the piss in the uk and / or Europe.
I’d bet it wouldn’t be much different, so would help people decide, instead of straight away assuming it’ll be mega expensive.
Aggressive_Fish461@reddit
I’d definitely go - but I’m single with no kids, so a big group holiday being organised by someone else would be ideal.
ZetaSagittariii@reddit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpathian_Mountains
check out these bad boys
Adept_Razzmatazz1145@reddit
Sounds like the kind of stag I could get on board with! Dread the thought of the typical stag where you just go to some rundown party town and spend 3 days drinking, a mountain on the other hand would be ace.
I guess the only thing is, if everyone you invite would be fit for it. A 4000m mountain is no joke and you are well into the possibility of altitude sickness, which I can tell you from having it while hiking a mountain of similar height is no fun and I am fit and well used to hiking mountains.
UKRico@reddit
Yes, I have. But we didn't go all the way to Morocco - it was Snowdon in Wales. We all stayed in an Airbnb the night before and after. It was great fun, trudging up the thing, nursing hangovers and it absolutely cured them as well. It was exhilarating, thanks to heavy rain and wind. Big meal out and a few more drinks afterwards - great combination!
I've never been to Morocco, it does feel abit random and far out for this sort of activity when we have the same thing at home. Plus it being an Islamic country, your opportunities to drink might be more limited.
HollyHor28HH@reddit
I would choose something in the UK, focus more on the social aspect…doesn’t have to include drinking, but your friends will want to relax and spend time together rather than exhausting themselves, their wallet & their annual leave. Find a challenging hike & an air bnb with a hot tub. Maybe a zip line or something if you want to do something memorable.
HollyHor28HH@reddit
Also if your friends are dads this plan is likely to make their partners pissed off at you. I’d be pretty annoyed if I had to parent alone for a week & also pay a huge amount that we could have spent doing something as a family, just so you can climb a mountain 😂😂
YOF626@reddit
Absolutely not
Oil_wagon@reddit
You can bond just as well on helvellyn or tryfan as you could in Morroco. Don’t be that guy, stag do travel and digs should be less than £100 maximum I’d say.
NaturalCollection488@reddit
Time and cost of a trip like this are the problem a day min of travelling each way… and that’s just the flight not inclusive of getting to the mountain area.
Quite different to a long weekend in Spain for whatever reason. Hard to facilitate if you have friends who have kids or whatever.
Asleep-Software-4160@reddit
Hiking yes, actually climbing no. 4000m is too high imo unless you're all serious hikers.
Squadrone_Rosso@reddit
Climbing with ropes & vertical surfaces? No chance. Going up Snowdon etc? Yes way.
Salt_Safety2234@reddit
Depends on your friends doesn’t it. I would personally love to do this for someone’s stag! Some of my mates would be less keen. At the end of the day it’s your stag so do what you like. If they’re proper mates they will get on board.
DoorFinch@reddit
Sounds challenging and expensive in time and money. You know your friends best, they all might be up for it. But some might find it daunting, or not be able to afford it. Do you want to exclude them?
You won't find out unless you ask them.
I totally get why you don't want the traditional stag do. But this is very ambitious. You're basically picking a holiday for other people, then asking them to pay for it. It's fraught with complications and pitfalls. Why do you want to go through that?
Ok-Lynx-6250@reddit
I absolutely would and tbh would be far happier paying £500-1k for this than a drunk bacherlorette in ibiza. But there's a lot of people for whom fitness, camping or cost would be prohibitive. You know your friends and whether they'd vibe with this.
EducationalRat@reddit
I thought you meant UK, fuck going Morocco for that unless it's a week trip and that's just one thing we will do, along with camel riding and other sorts of riding
Mother-Market-4056@reddit
Read the first half of your post and thought that any of our mountains would be decent, then you dropped Morocco. I've done a hike as part of a stag-do but it was in the Lakes, I'm not sure I'd want to go to Morocco and climb a mountain as that's a lot of luggage etc.
sausagemouse@reddit
I would absolutely not be going to this stage do
Smellycooter123@reddit
Personally this sounds like my worst nightmare, but if your friends are the type of people who are into that then maybe it could work
Holiday_Cat_7284@reddit
The problem with an overseas stag/hen do is the expectation and burden it puts on the others. They might feel an obligation to go because it's a stag do, when in reality they wouldn't use their leave and shell out hundreds for this particular experience. Unless your group regularly take overseas trips together and would do this anyway, stick to somewhere cheaper and more accessible.
JimmyBallocks@reddit
Are all your friends wealthy mountaineers?
If the answer is yes then this sounds perfect.
If not then perhaps you ought to think this through.
Separate_Wing_6685@reddit
Just learning this from a recent Hen Do is that people just won't come if they feel priced out or they will but it could really hit the finances.
Getting together though somewhere locally with a decent walk sounds great though although be aware that most campsites won't take bookings for big groups of guys if it seems like any sort of Stag Do.
AdSlow973@reddit
I like hiking but there’s absolutely fat chance in hell I’d be paying to go to Morocco for someone’s stag to climb a mountain
kiradax@reddit
Yes it would be really cool, but maybe the expense of travelling would be prohibitive for some. Lots of amazing mountains in Britain you could do, could even make it a multi-day and stay in a bothy, for example the Lairig Ghru
aldog90@reddit
Yes to a mountain, no to a stag abroad. Stags shouldn't break the bank. For my brothers we rented a place in rural Wales and climbed Snowdon, did one of the easier routes so it was accessible for all there.
CongealedBeanKingdom@reddit
Id probably go for a hike, but i wouldn't pay to go to Morocco for a stag.
Alarmed_War6135@reddit
Plenty of UK mountains which are still a massive achievement to climb for many and can all be climbed in a day by anyone with basic fitness level and equipment. Plus if you choose somewhere near a town like Keswick in the lakes there’s plenty of other outdoor activity options (mountain biking, etc) plus pubs and restaurants. Overall cost would be pretty low especially if camping.
CrabbyGremlin@reddit
A lot of people are against your idea but I think it could be fine. I know loads of people who have gone on holidays for stag and hen do’s, especially if the group are close and have been for for longer, going abroad for a stag is just an excuse to all meet up and do something special. It sounds like you care as much about the experience with your mates as you do it being your stag, it sounds like this could potentially be a short trip you’d all decide to do even if it wasn’t your stag.
And for people saying “no, not for a stag”, I think have a narrow idea of what a stag night/trip should be. It doesn’t have to be getting drunk and seeing strippers etc. my ex went and stayed in a big house in wales and went paintballing for the weekend, some girlfriends I know went on a horse riding holiday, doing different things for these occasions is becoming more normal. Float the idea out there, no harm in it.
brucie76@reddit
Yes and previously have.
sossighead@reddit
100% but you need to consider whether the travel might put people off. Depending on stage of life - costs and time away from family might be major factors.
Could you do something closer to home in the Lake District, Scotland, Wales etc?
But in principle if a mate said we’re going hiking and camping for my stag do I’d definitely be up for it.
busbybob@reddit
Only you know your friendship group and whether this will be something they would like.
Im 40 with 3 kids and can afford one family holiday a year. Im not going on your stag doo if it means my family cant that year, or if it means by car/similar emergency fund doesnt exist.
Affordability is a big factor in abroad holidays and sometimes i think people can be a bit selfish about it
My stag doo was paintball and night out with stayover in leeds. There was 25 of us, was a great laugh. £30pp for the hotel (2013) £30pp for paintball then whatever you like to spend on drinking. One of my closest friends with an overlapping friendship grp decided to do vegas for his. There was him, his brother in law, father in law, and 2 mates. Im sure he had a great time but ultimatley he priced alot of his friends out and didnt get to share that important event with everyone he would have liked.
SiteTraditional6418@reddit
Yes absolutely I would, but that would be my ideal stag do.
Id be fine with people not wanting to.
Sea-Payment-8989@reddit
As long as your friends don’t leave you up there tied to something, the yes go for it. Just remember not to get too pissed as you may get to the bottom faster than is safe.
Traditional-Leg-1122@reddit
It’s a big ask to expect people to go to Morocco for a stag do. I’d say that’s a bigger issue than the mountain.
A well balanced stag do combines an activity with some boozey fun times. All of one or the other is a bit dull.
Could you do Ben Nevis instead and have a highland adventure? Could do some whiskey tasting too.
baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaab@reddit
Plan a walk in the UK with good pubs at the end of each leg.
Dyalikedagz@reddit
Absolutely. But make sure its in Europe.
doesnt_like_pants@reddit
Road trip it to Snowden or Ben Nevis and have the lads sleep in cars or take tents if you want some adventure.
It’s cheaper, gives a sense of adventure and for those that want to, you can still go to a pub / drink.
edyth_@reddit
I don't know many people who would spend their precious time off work climbing a mountain. Actually I only know 2. A picturesque lightly challenging hiking weekend with camping and coking over fire, yes. I know a couple of people who have done that, stayed in a cabin, played games in the evening etc and had a great time but I think overseas travel plus a mountain is a bit much to ask.
TheYetaaay@reddit
I love hiking and climbing mountains and I would still err on a no. This would work out as an expensive holiday and time away from my family and money that I'm not spending on holidaying with them. People way up stags in relation to their other holiday plans. I think it's a big ask.
pointlesstips@reddit
Nah, the lads want to harass women when drunk, and while getting drunk is possible, the harassing women, lines of coke, and strippers they're hoping for that will ensue, are not. Those are the answers you're reading.
The real answer is: depends on your friends. If you have laddy-lad friends like many of the respondents in this thread, it's a no, as you won't come off lightly when caught committing above shenanigans. If your mates are like you, you can go for it.
Mind you, why has a night on the town for a stag do fallen in disgrace, why is it mandatory to spend multiples of hundred pounds to go to another continent? (Rhetorical, just jealous that you have that money to spend)
CoffeeIgnoramus@reddit
For me, the travelling abroad ia the bit that would massively depend on how much of a close friend we were.
But the activity is not an issue. I want to do what my friend would enjoy for his stag.
Maybe consider the 3 peaks in the UK?
Denzelini_Dumfrini2@reddit
Only if the rest of the group wouldn’t struggle on a 4000 and they’re all like-minded experienced hikers, otherwise it’s a recipe for disaster
irv81@reddit
Probably, I've done it for a birthday so stag do wouldn't be any different
summers_tilly@reddit
For my husbands 40th birthday we rented a cottage in Wales and climbed Mount Snowdon. It was great and everyone loved it. We also hung out at the beach and had a BBQ. From your title, I thought you meant something like that - in which case yes to the stag. Expecting people to go all the way to Morocco to climb a mountain is too much in my opinion. It will all add up and people will be resentful.
My_sloth_life@reddit
I think that having an option that isn’t drinking is a really good idea BUT this particular alternative is likely to exclude a lot of people from coming.
It’ll be expensive, there’s likely to be people who may be invited to a stag do that aren’t fit enough as that’s still a serious climb. It’s also likely to be a longer trip so tricky for anyone that has a family/limited free time (or limited time off work).
Unless all your friends are rich, single and avid mountain climbers, in which case it’s a fantastic idea.
Milam1996@reddit
Are you trying to kill off your friendship group? Even for the easiest 4000m mountain, needing a guide and sleeping over on a mountain is far in excess of “meeting up for the occasional hike in the uk”. Make sure your travel insurance is up to date.
WoodpeckerThis1790@reddit
I actually did this so am in a pretty good place to comment. I took mates to the lake district and went hiking/climbing followed by camping in a forest after. Went great - was super cheap though which helped with a range of people.
Few-Station8831@reddit
No. Not a chance
Play to your audience though… are they all up to the challenge?
Also if you plan a U.K. event uptake will be higher, attrition rate lower and it’s got a fair chance of happening for a reasonable amount of money.
BTW How has it become the norm to expect everyone to spend thousands on a stag?
lord_bastard_@reddit
Sounds horrendous
CuteMaterial@reddit
First of all, this sounds expensive. Secondly, isn't the best man meant to arrange the stag do?
lardarz@reddit
Maybe. Is there a stripper on the top?
WGD23@reddit
Inshallah
eggs_and_ham_i_am@reddit
Her names Snowcapped Peaks.
With her parents giving her a name like that, she was always destined to become a stripper.
CuteMaterial@reddit
First of all, this sounds expensive. Secondly, isn't the best man meant to arrange the stag do?
Sure-Recognition-262@reddit
I think it's a lovely idea, but...
Something I only realised when my and one of my best mates both had our stags soon after each other is that the stag (and presumably hen) isn't just about having fun. It's also massive ice-breaker for guests people who don't know each other (even though they all know you), which makes the wedding itself more fun for everyone.
If you choose a stag do which some folk will opt out of, it means you don't really get that benefit as much.
Elegant_Plantain1733@reddit
Id be in. £400 plus flights per person is also decent in my view including all the food. And you save money by not drinking :-). But you know your friends better than anyone here.
Black-Blade@reddit
Contrary to the other comments, I think if you and your friends are reasonably well off and close enough this would be a lovely stag do. Yes £500 might be expensive but I can comfortably say I'd happily spend that for my closest friends especially if it's something I know they will enjoy provided I think it would be fun for myself too.
Id simply ask them if they'd be keen on climbing a mountain together and then go from there.
Lo_jak@reddit
Id rather play monopoly with my family than do that....
Freckles93@reddit
Get a self catering cottage/cabin in Scotland and do a few munro's or Ben Nevis if the whole group are hikers.
Walk during the day, darts/board games/hot tub in the evenings.
cborne943@reddit
Fuck that!
ProfessorPeabrain@reddit
Helvellyn. few selfies on striding edge, pints and stay at the mortal man in troutbeck. heaven.
CodeBeginning6548@reddit
Sorry OP but thats a terrible idea. Morocco for a stag do?...I would be hoping not to be invited in all honesty.
If you're not that keen on the usual stag do antics, just have a hike in the UK followed by a nice meal somewhere in the local town afterwards. It won't cost the world and people can head off home the next day.
Sad_Cardiologist5388@reddit
Makes a change from drinking all day, I'm in when do we leave
rogfrich@reddit
Personally, no. I’m nowhere near fit enough.
Jigglypuffs_quiff@reddit
You also need to consider that friend who is no way fit enough but thinks he will beat you all to the top.
tumshy@reddit
Hike, yes. Morocco, no. It’s a little entitled to think people want to use their holiday allowance and spend so much money on your stag.
There are so many good hikes in the UK. How about doing the West Highland Way?
SqueakySquirrel117@reddit
I also found it entitled. I know my friends love me, but I’d never expect them to take leave from work and spend all that money for my hen do. I mean, maybe the OP comes from a wealthy background and going to Morocco won’t affect their bank accounts in the slightest, or his if he intends to pay for it all.
Agitated_Parsnip_178@reddit
Climb something high? The Lakes, go to Newcastle, Scotland even on the train, go to a bothy etc. Don't be that guy who expects lots of money down. It's meant to be a piss up with a hike, go karting, escape room or a comedy show, paintballing etc. It's okay to spend local! Getting on a plane and remembering documents removes all of the momentum IMMEDIATELY.
ktitten@reddit
You know your friends.
I would say this would probably only work in quite a specific friend group - one that was already outdoorsy, and do hikes regularly.
I like walking and do an occasional hike but I wouldn't agree to a 4000m hike when I haven't climbed that high before. Maybe if there was a chance to do training beforehand and I knew I would have ample support, I might consider it. What you find easy, might not be what others find easy either.
Its a cool premise, but I can absolutely see why people might be hesitant and decline. Even just googling shows there has been multiple deaths there within the last year.
Geniejc@reddit
Sounds way too expensive. You'll be low on numbers and the ones that have to go will quietly resent the expense.
Cost for the holiday, equipment and time off work.
It depends on your friend group but it really doesn't even have to even be a weekend away , just a good all dayer.
Honestly people will appreciate it expense wise.
Can still be outdoorsy but make sure theres a pub element.
pick a best man that will look after you in any state.
And if you keep it UK let them organise it or at least together.
In my experience the ones that try to control the narrative get the worst treatment.
Geepandjagger@reddit
House in the lakes, plenty of hikes with pub stops (don't have to get hammered). Other activities available. Would be an amazing stag do
IronspineLabs@reddit
I have a lot of hiking/climbing friends, so while this might be optimistic, hell yeah I'm doing it. Or trying at least.
yearsofpractice@reddit
Hey OP. I absolutely wouldn’t go on that stag do.
I love the thought of climbing a mountain in Morocco (I lived in southern Spain for a year and could see the Atlas Mountains on a clear day!)… but I’d want to do it on my own terms, particularly the amount of money it will end up costing.
Also - using me as an example - I’m married with two school aged kids. My wife and I can accommodate each other going away on solo holidays for about a week each year… any more than that and things start getting resentful (on both sides). I - and many other married parents - would not want to use up that goodwill on something I’m not personally interested in.
Also - to a non-climber - 4000m is fucking enormous. Please don’t forget that. Unprepared people die every year on our stupid little British hills that are about a quarter of that size. I’d turn it down based on that though alone.
I’ve organised multiple stag dos and been a guest on many too.
The very best are structured around a secondary activity that allows men to do what they do best - easy bonding with a few beers and a distraction if necessary. That’s straightforward to do in the UK and you’ll get a bigger crowd.
mailywhale@reddit
That would be limited to someone like my best friend or brother
PeppercornWizard@reddit
No. Too expensive not only in money but also in terms of I’d leave from work. Get an airbnb somewhere near Snowdon and if some people want to do the climb they can, whilst others can stay at the gaff and have a few drinks / go to a pub whilst you do it.
Fudge_is_1337@reddit
I think this is a fantastic idea for a holiday with a small to medium size group of like minded friends
I think it's a bit risky, borderline unfair to make it a stag. Cost is one thing, fitness is another. I'm a reasonably healthy and active person, and I'd feel like I'd need to some preparatory training for this kind of thing, and that prep would impact on my day to day life as it would take time away from my actual hobbies and fitness schedule
If you don't want to do a classic drinking stag, you don't have to have a stag at all. Maybe do this trip, but just don't badge it as a stag - that's the easiest way to avoid people feeling obligated to suffer the cost and effort if they aren't interested.
Logical_Strain_6165@reddit
I'd love it, but not with other people with no experience who didn't know what they were getting themselves in for and might hate it.
If your mates are outdoors types and have the money then great.
BroodLord1962@reddit
No I wouldn't. But more importantly you need to know your friends well to know if it's something they would be interested in or could even afford to do. So on top of the normal expense of going to a wedding...new outfit, gift, etc, etc. You know want them to be able to afford a return flight to Morocco and associated costs? It's a big ask and I would expect if you did this it would only be a very small stag do
zombiezmaj@reddit
If they normally hike cant see an issue. Enough notice to train would be a courtesy.
Best way to know though is speak to your groomsmen/people you intend to invite and tell them thats what you plan. Have transparent list of proposed itinerary and costs so they can make an informed decision.
takenawaythrowaway@reddit
You know your friends. I've climbed Mt Toubkal, I thought it was pretty fun and easy. I think if I pitched it to my friends most of them would be well up for it (quite a few of them having climbed Mt Toubkal before, with me!) but also some of them would just not be up for it and probably wouldn't come also it's going to be logistically annoying and pretty expensive. Two things I'd try to avoid.
I went to a stag party for someone who sounds similar to you drinking wise, and liking the outdoors wise, where we stayed in a remote camping barn. It was really good. Maybe look into something like that?
arenaross@reddit
You want people to go to Morocco for your stag do?
Michael_Thompson_900@reddit
If you want to climb a mountain in Morocco, do it. But I don’t think it’s cool to somehow fold that desire into a stag do. How does climbing a mountain have anything to do with getting married.
If all of your mates are 100% into that sort of thing; then sure, but if any of your mates aren’t into that / would never consider it, you run the risk of either them going a long with it and resenting you, or them bailing.
JobAnxious2005@reddit
You’ll find there will be a mate or two who (irrespective of what they present their life to be) suddenly has budget issues.
GrahamGreed@reddit
Yeah there's no chance I am doing this type of destination stag and I'm doing ok financially. It's a money pit as well as the physical side.
PolarLocalCallingSvc@reddit
I'd much rather go on a hiking stag do than a drinking stag do to be honest.
I'm considering proposing to my partner and if I have a stag do it'll be hiring out a mountaineering hut for a weekend. People will have a drink sure but we'll go climbing or hiking or kayaking or mountain biking or something during the day, play games and have a roaring fire and some good food and drink at night.
I've nothing against going out for 20 pints, but it's not really my bag, or that of my mates.
ThrowawayParsnip5@reddit
Would I go on a stag/hen do that involves hiking? Yes, only because hiking is something I enjoy and do a lot of. Would I pay the costs of going abroad to do it? Definitely not.
You're going to get a lot of mixed responses here I think, and ultimately none of us know your family and friends better than you. I've personally been of the opinion for years that stag/hen dos have gotten completely out of hand - instead of a single evening event or even one day of a few events, they've developed into whole weekends with money being dropped on transport, accommodation, food, gifts, costumes, outfits, accessories etc.
I love my pals and am honoured if they want me to share their big day with them, but I'm on a low salary, so my priority is the wedding. The kind of money being dropped on these kind of weekends is money I would prefer to save and put towards a small holiday for myself, rather than spending it on a weekend with a mix of folk that I only know some of.
tylorbear@reddit
As someone else who isn't into drinking this sounds awesome and I'd be well up for it.
-mmmusic-@reddit
my dad did one like this! (not his stag, attended someone else's)
it was a day or two in the peak district, they seemed to have fun!
Slyspy006@reddit
Don't be the wanker who puts a significant financial burden on people for their own selfish desire.
Spooky_L@reddit
Do jt properly and do Kilimanjaro, in for a penny….
danddersson@reddit
Well, it is one of the lowest cost foreign mountains to get to, and climb.
I have done it, and it was fun, but is is still more than I would want to pay for a stag-do. And it's not for everyone...!
Satchm0Jon3s@reddit
Expecting people to both pay to go to Morocco AND to climb a mountain is a pretty big ask. I get wanting to do something special and meaningful to you. Just don't take it to heart when people say no.
Maybe scale it back a bit.
pineappleshampoo@reddit
I don’t think many would go tbh. You’d be lucky to get one bestie agree to it. The mountain climbing bit is a bit niche unless your friendship group is mostly climbers, I think most people will be reluctant to take on a (to them) significant challenge that comes with risks in another country. Shit can go wrong and I would imagine if they have partners they won’t be too keen either. Plus the cost of getting there, gear, time off work. Nah. You’re asking way too much.
Plan a weekend away in the Dales or Peaks hiking if you wanna do something physical and sober, even that is a big ask of people to travel, accommodation costs, time away, but you’ll prob have more takers.
Personally it’s a cliche but I have a lot more respect towards people who do a night out or a day trip or something and don’t put their friends in this kind of position to have to decline crazy expensive plans.
Suitable-Season-4847@reddit
Unless your friends are into this, they will likely hate it.
Tumping@reddit
Awful idea
sophietheadventurer@reddit
My dad’s stag do in the nineties was walking in the Lake District, if you meant something more like that I think people would be down
LesDauphins@reddit
No.
Doris93@reddit
Depends how long. I spent only 200 quid for a week in morocco last January
NecroVelcro@reddit
As many other people have said, that sounds very expensive.
You need to get over yourself rather than a mountain.
Additional-Tie3789@reddit
4000m is a decent size. Wind it back a bit. Do an easier hike. There's plenty that can be just as stunning without the grind. It'll still feel like an achievement to people who aren't hikers. Don't just think of yourself
alltorque1982@reddit
Do it with your best man? Then keep the stag do more accessible?
Littlelindsey@reddit
Too expensive and if your friends aren’t into hiking they are going to make their excuses and not attend.
Dennyisthepisslord@reddit
No. I wouldn't mind doing it myself but on a stag do with no interest? No way
dinkidoo7693@reddit
Too many of these things are alcohol focused so activities are a good idea.
I imagine someone will bring a load of alcohol along anyway for drinks at the camp/summit.
Have you looked at things like Go Ape and other outdoor activity venues? I can see a trip to morocco being a bit expensive and possibly out of a few peoples price range.
If something like this was suggested for a hen party id have to decline. I’m not a hiker or a camper. I don’t have any of the right gear or clothing.
Grahamr1234@reddit
I once went to a friend's stag do in Portugal, but that was because it was about £300 all in for the week including flights. It was great.
However this sounds far more expensive and could be physically too much for many people.
Why not do Ben Nevis and then a day in Edinburgh or something? Something more do-able for more people.
NinjamaticNemesis@reddit
Absolutely fucking not.
What happened to a game of paintball in the day and a curry, some drinks and maybe even *clutches pearls* a stripper.
Now it's always asking your mates to spend a grand or two on some random trip
LucyLovesApples@reddit
What you’ve got to remember is are the other able to do it or a trained to?
I know several people who are quite fit but they wouldn’t be able to climb a mountain because they’re not trained to.
Silhouette_Sneezes@reddit
I’m a woman so wouldn’t go on a stag anyway, but I really like the idea of a stag or hen that isn’t about drinking.
But the cost you’re talking about is astronomical. Plus coordinating everyone’s holiday from work, which people (especially if they have kids) will have to ration out. As someone else said, vaccinations, insurance and the rest. AND then on top of that, asking people to attend your wedding, potentially pay for a hotel, new clothes, gift, babysitting if appropriate.
Unless your friends are quite affluent, and this kind of cost isn’t going to impact them, I’d switch it to something in the UK. That way, if it’s a slightly less challenging summit, your mates who aren’t hikers or climbers would be more inclined to come, you can get an air b&b together and be back in work with one or two days off max.
Your stag isn’t about the achievement of the climb, it’s about spending time with your friends to celebrate you and your upcoming wedding. If you want to do Morocco yourself in the future, that’s definitely something you, and any mate who also has it as an aspiration can do.
Fine_Analyst_4408@reddit
Probably best to avoid activities that increase the odds of dying. I might just be paranoid from the movies I've seen that start with this premise though.
BillyJoeDubuluw@reddit
I’m assuming you’re well matched with your pals and drinking isn’t be the all and end all for them either?
The only concern I can think of is that “elevated stag and hens” cost a bit more money… you could price people out and that’s where a bit more of a beige little gathering closer to home, before or after the mountain, comes in handy…
Money_Afternoon6533@reddit
Sounds expensive. I was friends with this girl who organised a similar hen do at £1000+ per head for a weekend and then she got arsey with people declining her invite
BungadinRidesAgain@reddit
Bit of a big ask in the UK, let alone Morocco. I love a good hike, but it's not for everyone, and will likely cost a bomb if you're travelling abroad for it.
Global-Figure9821@reddit
Good luck to you. I planned my own stag and it was hard work (worth it in the end though).
First things first you need to get an idea of who might come and what their budgets are. Then you can start to plan. If you are thinking of going abroad you need to let people know at least 6 months in advance to give them a chance to save for it.
I struggled to get 10 lads on a bus into the city for some drinks.
Snowey212@reddit
Depends do the lads you want to invite regularly enjoys the outdoors? I worked in an office where there were a few outdoorsy folk did similar, but theyd often spend mondays showing of pics of hikes they did that weekend so definitely tracked for them. Usually the best man takes themes or ideas and then ensures everyone's on board can make dates arranges the financial for you and hopefully adds fun suprises for all. And hopefully a hangover kit if there's drinking.
nikhkin@reddit
If I thought I was physically up for it, sure. Like you, I'd rather go on a stag do that involves an outdoor activity than get pissed on a night out.
Do you mean climbing a mountain, like walking up Snowdon, or climbing a mountain with ropes and belays? One of them is a lot more accessible than the other.
Just be aware that the cost might be prohibitive for some.
Mickleborough@reddit
As others have pointed out, the cost could be a deterrent. Then one drills down into expectations of stag parties - would your friends really prefer to indulge in physical activity, or would they prefer something less stressful?
Also think that a do with minimal chances of injury would be preferable.
Chlorophilia@reddit
As an avid hiker 100%, but I guess it depends on how serious your friends are about mountains.
Wonderful-Bonus5439@reddit
I think this sounds cool, but how much commitment are you expecting? Im arranging a hen for my best mate at the moment, and my main goal is to make everything as easy and stress-free for people as possible.
Would anyone need to do training beforehand? Is everyone physically able with no health conditions? Is it time consuming (more than 3x nights away might piss people off)? Is it affordable? Im trying to keep costs down to under £300pp which is tricky, but I feel so rude asking for more.
Rowdy_Roddy_2022@reddit
No, but I wouldn't do anything that involves climbing a mountain, nevermind in Morocco.
You know your own friend group though, their interests, free time, money, sense of adventure etc. Reddit can't answer this one for you. Just don't expect anyone to go who doesn't have an interest in hiking.
Agreeable_Archer_210@reddit
I think this is too much, both in terms of cost/logistics, and physical exertion, for a large group of people.
I’d be delighted if someone suggested something like this, but how about one of the more challenging routes up Snowdon or something?
There’s some other decent stag/physical activities around there - massive zip wire for example with incredible views.
Nox_VDB@reddit
You had me at mountain and then lost me at Morocco.
The cost and time off required would be a no from me.
Make it a UK hiking and camp trip then yes 100%
chillinoodle@reddit
I think it is a cool thing to do, but though I like hiking I'd be put off on the cost alone tbh.
SpecialistDaikon4663@reddit
What about climbing one of the UK mountains to reduce cost?
grimaces111111@reddit
I wouldn't personally, I have no interest in walking for fun, it being a multiple day event means I then have to take time away from my family, also, I'm then expected to pay to get too and from Morocco?
So its paying money I hardly have to leave my family to do something I don't want to do
Iwantedalbino@reddit
I have friends who like climbing mountains and I have friends I’d invite to my stag do.
Two.
That’s how many people would be keen on climbing a mountain on my stag do.
There’s two more you could persuade for the plot.
The rest would be in the pub at the bottom.
Every stag has an accessibility problem - cost distance and time affect us all differently. You know your friends best and who’d want to do that.
Climbing Ben Nevis and camping in a bothy might be easier to get buy in.
eggs_and_ham_i_am@reddit
Absolutely I'd do a mountain climb. But I have a rule that I ain't leaving the country for a stag do.
I'm married, I have A LOT of expenses. Spending that kind of money for just myself without any thoughts to my wife and kids is just not within my remit.
Doing something like the three peaks would be awesome.
richpinn@reddit
It’s not a very inclusive stag do is it, what’s the fat/unfit friend going to do? Unless all your friends are hikers that is.
I’d say this idea is more a small group trip who are into this kinda of thing, not a stag do.
EntirelyRandom1590@reddit
If that's what your social circle do, do it.
I'd suggest a smaller home stag do for those that aren't keen. Something local.
I opened the thread thinking you were going to suggest Pen y Fan 🤣
logro6@reddit
You have been yourself already so maybe you are aware, but altitude sickness is an issue for some at Mt Toubkhal. I have had two separate friends on two separate trips both have to wait down the mountain while the rest of the group summited due to altitude sickness.
It's a great climb and if a friend did a hen do up there I'd be so keen vs the normal events.
eagletrance@reddit
Go to Switzerland instead. You can drive and climb a glacier. E.g. in arolla. Assuming it's not winter.
Can put your beers in the glacier water then.
Appropriate_Emu_6930@reddit
I’d much rather do that than a giant piss up.
OkPea5819@reddit
I would, but you know your group hopefully better than Reddit responses. Perhaps poll a couple of them to get thoughts.
HamsterEagle@reddit
Yes, but also no. I’d happily climb a mountain but I wouldn’t want to go abroad for a stag do again. Blown too much money on those over the years.
Queasy-Biscotti-9406@reddit
1 - You should not be organising your own stag, that’s a huge FU to the best man 2 - Your asking a hell of a lot of the men, not only fitness wise but also cost & equipment 3 - If you’ve found traditional stags boring, you’ve been doing them wrong.
Amazing-Visual-2919@reddit
Rather stay in the UK thanks.
Jayatthemoment@reddit
God, no. But you know your friends. Are they fit and healthy, interesting in travelling to North Africa, willing to leave any kids behind, able to take time off, able to afford it (or willing to throw in some of their family pot). Sounds less inclusive than it could be.
CuratorOfNoise@reddit
This massively depends on your friends, ignoring the Morocco bit, I wouldn’t feel confident doing it, even with a decent level of fitness.
Terrible-Bad-9002@reddit
I'm getting married in September and I want to go to an arcade get pissed and end up in a strip club with profanities sharpied on my forehead.
Mountains? You boring git.
Sirlacker@reddit
If I had the money and could get the time off work. That's the biggest hurdle for this for anyone being invited. There's a reasonable upfront chunk of money that needs to be invested in this by each member.
RainbowPenguin1000@reddit
In the UK I’d probably say yes.
Going to Morocco and all the costs involved to travel and then to climb a mountain, probably not.
ANuggetEnthusiast@reddit
I recently went on a stag that involved a lot of outdoor activity. He’s one of my best mates and I was pleased to do it for him but as someone who isn’t outdoorsy, I had to spend a lot of money on appropriate equipment (hiking boots, waterproof trousers etc) as well as obviously the cost of the accommodation and activities
Unless this is a bucket list thing for all your groomsmen, I think it’s way too much/too far, personally.
Mario_911@reddit
Personally I'd enjoy it although I may be in the minority. If the stag was a good friend id do whatever they wanted to do. Also I'd be looking a few beers after climb
willgraham1@reddit
I love hiking and would 100% do this on my own holiday. But I think I would resent being made to pay for the travel all the way to Morocco for a stag - are you paying for flights and the guide?
Thug-Handles@reddit
I think it sounds great but there’s a few different things that could put people off. The answer is going to be very specific to the people you want to invite so the best thing is to ask around try and get a sense check before committing
en70uk@reddit
Depends on the group of people going
I hike but wouldn’t do that as a stag event , very few of my friend circle would either
antlered-god@reddit
I think it's a good idea, but personally, I wouldn't take part in anything involving going abroad. It's just too expensive. If you did it in the UK I'd definitely be up for it
zephyrmox@reddit
I would absolutely love this, but you have to make sure it's appropriate to your group of friends in terms of both them enjoying it, and the cost.
You will get a lot of people here saying no way on both factors - but it really depends on your group of friends. Mine, this would work for.
DocMillion@reddit
I'd do it if my good friend asked me. I'm a bit like you in that just getting pissed didn't appeal and I like the outdoors and adventure. We went on a guided canoeing, camping and foraging trip for a long weekend. There was whisky around the campfire, but also good memories and brotherhood
tall-not-small@reddit
Sounds expensive and would only cater for some of the group. Id consider it if you dont mind a very small stag do
George_Salt@reddit
Are you paying?
Deliberate_Android@reddit
Who’s stag do is it?
sakmentoloki@reddit
I mean I am not gonna climb a mountain personally, but some would I guess that depends entirely on your friend group.
BaBaFiCo@reddit
While I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand, as someone who doesn't even hike in the UK I think I would be very hesitant. Add to that the need for vaccinations and such, plus cost of travel, it'd probably be a no from me, dog.
96JY@reddit
Hell yeah, I would. Though, I like doing that anyway.
BreqsCousin@reddit
No, but I'm not a person who owns hiking boots to begin with.
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