Upgrade 1080ti? Maybe 5060?
Posted by MonsterRus0@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 32 comments
In my current set up I have a 1080ti 11gb waterforce, Ryzen 7 1800x, 32gbDDR4 Ram, 850PSU Its my first Gaming PC ever got it as a gift I love it. I know its 9 years old but I was finally able to play the games I wanted to try. Iv had it for about 4 or 5 months and I would like to upgrade and wondering whats the next step up from a 1080ti 11gb and upgrading my CPU as well. I would prefer one without an AIO cooler and 300mm or less as that's what my current case can take. I was maybe looking at a RTX 5060 8gb? I don't need 4k 1440p I just want my games to run well when I play I'm totally fine with 1080p. I'm not very tech savy but I do love my PC I was still playing on PS4 Pro prior to getting my PC
Budget $400
I do have a Ryzen 7 5700x coming in the mail this week as its the highest my motherboard can take.
Currently playing Helldivers 2, and Space Marine 2 on low to medium settings once i upgrade I'm looking forward to playing RE9
Mintykiller@reddit
Hey, I literally built a spreadsheet for this exact upgrade for myself last weekend for price to performance of used/new. What PSU are you using? maybe I can point you in a somewhat helpful direction
MonsterRus0@reddit (OP)
It’s an 850w psu
Mintykiller@reddit
then you could feasible upgrade to a used 3080 ti with the same psu and that will give you roughly 200% uplift over current whereas a 5060ti will only be about 160%.
downside is no warranty.
But based on my excel and my own local prices it was more performance per dollar.
Crass_Spektakel@reddit
Any hint for me too? My PSU is a 750W Enermax Platimax, Got a slightly overclocked (everything 10-15%, works since 2016 nicely) rig based around an i7-6700k, 64GByte of main memory (got it for like €170 in 2016), Geforce 1070 - I would consider a slight upgrade which manages 4k for some older games at least and maybe running some mediocre LLMs.
Mintykiller@reddit
My biggest concern would be your cpu. it would be significantly underpowered for any GPU upgrade you could make.
Even the best upgrade within your current cpu socket would be wildly expensive and underpowered for the price.
Tekito_09@reddit
I bought my RTX 5060 with plans to upgrade to 6060ti if ever it comes out. The RTX 5060ti 16gb here in my country is around 2.5x more than the RTX 5060 and i got mine before the RAM crisis, if the games you plan to play in the foreseeable future are indie or free competitive games (Valorant, Apex) this is good enough, but you could try saving for the RTX 5060 TI instead or get an AMD alternative with higher VRAM
Crass_Spektakel@reddit
16 GByte is like four times as much video memory as you need for contemporary games.
More GPU memory does absolutely nothing for performance, just increases the potential for higher textures.
I own a Geforce 1070/8GByte in my main. According GPUZ even current games only use 70-90% of its memory at medium to high settings.
Even worse, I also own two pretty identical much older systems, one running a Radeon 570 with 4 and the other the very same with 8GByte of GPU memory. The difference in performance: ZERO. The difference in texture quality (med vs high): negligible.
camdalfthegreat@reddit
It's worth noting that textures aren't the only things that use memory.
Ray tracing, dlss, framegen all use vram.
That's part of the reason a 8gb 50 series card is just dumb. Sure 8gb is enough for textures, but it's really just not quite enough for textures AND all of Nvidia other features. Granted you probably shouldn't be using full Ray tracing with a 5060 anyways.
Crass_Spektakel@reddit
For example GTA5 on max settings uses 12GByte for textures and less than 3GByte EVERYTHING else, including tripple framebuffers and all geometry and shader data. For example the shader scripts in total take LESS than 1MByte.
DLSS needs exactly one additional frame buffer which is like 32MByte. I do remember that only viewing over the city actually loads around 1.5GByte of geometry data into the card if you set max view distance - which is insane 100km or something.
People are horribly ill informed about WHAT actually needs memory inside an GPU. It is 90% textures and nothing else.
camdalfthegreat@reddit
I had no issues playing GTA 5 on my 1660 6gb with Max texture resolution.
Tekito_09@reddit
As I said, My RTX 5060 8gb fits MY needs in gaming. I used a 1060 5GB lasted me 5 Years and I could still use that no issue. This rtx 5060 could last me probs 5 more years.
Crass_Spektakel@reddit
I am pretty sure it will work even longer, I am just unsure myself how long Microsoft will support older CPUs like the Ryzen 1000. Currently it still works with the usual Windows 11 trickery but some not much older CPUs (Penryn architecture) have been already cut off totally for three years.
No_Spare1827@reddit
I'm not sure u will find a modern GPU with a water cooler for that price, If U were u Id get a 9060XT 16gb, not the legend that ur 1080TI was buts its pretty capable and the 16gbs give it some extra life as games get harder and harder to run
MonsterRus0@reddit (OP)
Definitely want one without a liquid cooler lol
Crass_Spektakel@reddit
Water cooling just sucks in case of maintenance... replacing the pump every three years after break down is just disgusting... replacing a €3 120mm fan is too easy. I have replaced my fans inside my case every three years for 10+ years for almost no costs and little work. Do that with water cooling and you will curse your life.
AzureBat@reddit
Even though the 5060 is an upgrade over the 1080Ti, you should aim for better if you can. Either the 5060 Ti 16GB or the 9060XT 16GB.
MonsterRus0@reddit (OP)
Would it be worth it to just save up a bit more for the 16gb?
AzureBat@reddit
Yes definitely.
MonsterRus0@reddit (OP)
Thank you it’s what I was looking for
Crass_Spektakel@reddit
Actually I disagree. Read my comment below for more detailed data, but on my 16GByte GPU memory rig even GTA at insane settings only used 12GByte for textures and 3GByte for EVERYTHING else. lowering the settings from insane to high made it comfortably run at higher FPS with less than 8GByte used.
camdalfthegreat@reddit
I wouldn't get a 50s series card with your build honestly.
You can find 3080s for well under 300 USD. If you're just gaming at 1080p for the foreseeable future 10gb of vram is honestly enough. Don't let people scare you too bad with needing 16gb minium vram
The 3080 gets you like 20% faster raw performance than a 5060, and you still get access to decent Nvidia software like dlss.
Crass_Spektakel@reddit
I fully agree with camdalf, more memory doesn't speed things up at all, it just offers slightly higher texture resolutions. While I agree that for a NEW rig, especially a beefy one, 8GByte would be a bit low, I also think for your old rig 8-12GByte would be mighty fine.
I also agree that a cheap 3000 or 4000 series card might be a try.
MonsterRus0@reddit (OP)
Thank you i will be looking into the 30 and 40 series
GreenWorld8549@reddit
The gb matters. The fps performance matters more. Gb comes second. Yea 5060 16gb is nice but i would rsthr take the higher fps with 12 gbs from a different card. Like if the card isn’t reaching bang for your buck performance who cares about the gbs?
MonsterRus0@reddit (OP)
Just curious because not to tech savvy lol what’s wrong with the 50 series with my build? I appreciate all advice
brilipj@reddit
Does your motherboard support green 4 PCIE? How much penalty will the card experience running on the interface your motherboard will provide? I believe 5060 is limited to 8 lanes, with your current mobo you may only have gen3 pcie, look into this. 3080 seems like a good suggestion short of a full system upgrade; also depends on what you're looking at for the future.
MonsterRus0@reddit (OP)
Its an ASUS prime X370 pro. I believe it does PCIe 3 and 4 after the bios update i made sure to do that before my Ryzen 7 5700x came in
Crass_Spektakel@reddit
mostly the price. 3000 and 4000 series cards are sometimes cheaper for the same performance. The only thing really advocating for a brand new 5000 card: Support. You might get another 2-5 years solid driver updates but given the current cycle that would mean you had to use your rig for another 8-10 years before this becomes a concern.
NationsAnarchy@reddit
Target high VRAM with your next upgrade
Crass_Spektakel@reddit
definitely NOT.
For playing games 8GByte still make no difference to 16GByte.
More RAM simply increases memory for textures and large Language models and does NOTHING for performance at all.
NationsAnarchy@reddit
He has a 5700X coming, read the whole post buddy
Stars_Storm@reddit
5060ti or 9060xt would be best for longevity.