Friend helped me build a PC but someone told me it’s already outdated… did I mess up?

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aragorn18@reddit

It can be both outdated and totally sufficient for your needs. There's no inherent conflict here.

DDR5 is indeed the future. Your system is basically the fastest DDR4-based gaming PC that will ever be possible. Any future upgrades will involve a CPU/motherboard/RAM upgrade all at the same time.

But, if the PC works for your needs, who cares? You should be able to get years of great gaming experiences out of it. And, you saved a good bit of money.

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bitesized314@reddit

Also, if I got this as. A gift I would have 0 problems using it at 1440P.

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

Thank you.

I’m very happy with the gift since I only had to pay half of the pc.

Right now I’m using a 1440p 240hz monitor which he also helped my buy.

So I think I owe him dinner some time soon.

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Considering how ludicrously expensive PC parts are right now, there is no shame saving money and using older used parts. I bought some nice SSD just before these prices got stupid. I wouldn't buy them now at current prices. Find your value. Play your games.

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negligiblehomer@reddit

Yep, and honestly a good PC from last year still crushes most games at high settings. Don't stress about it.

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Shadowarriorx@reddit

This PC is a "few yrs old" from cutting edge but is still better than like 85% of all builds out there. If it serves your needs great. This is like a nice reliable Honda, it will work just fine and was a good VALUE.

You can always upgrade later if you feel the itch or need. It would be a new build as the platform is EoL.

You might game more or less in the next yr. Take the next steps after that.

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

Thanks friend! I use the pc mostly for gaming and stock trading I don’t think I am even using the pc to its full potential.

I certainly saved some money since I got most of the parts for free so I’m very grateful to my friend. I hope it will last me many years.

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RGBjank101@reddit

Don't worry. You have a very good build that will last many years. Just have fun.

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Sufficient_Fan3660@reddit

Every computer is outdated 6 months after it is built.

That doesn't mean its bad. There are always new things coming out.

Be happy with what you have and don't listen to people who just want you to feel bad.

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Toastedtoad12@reddit

I just bought a Ryzen 7 5800XT for my Gigabyte B450M motherboard. So you’re fine. It’s just not a high end pc.

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No_Impact7840@reddit

5700X3D is absolutely a high end PC. It's not the very top 1% any more, but it's more than enough to run any game at high or ultra settings, and likely will be for the next 5 years at least.

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LZeugirdor97@reddit

I'm on am4, I've built my computer to be largely future proof within my budget, I didn't skimp on anything but I also didn't get the most expensive parts just because I could. It is still holding well to this day. At the time (2020) x3d didn't exist of course, and if it's still holding up today, you're definitely going to have a better long term experience than I'll have, and even I will have a good one. Your friend made a good choice sticking on am4 for price, especially if you don't plan on upgrading your pc every 2-3 years, instead you'd only really want to upgrade every 5 maybe.

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mgwair11@reddit

What’s more, that cpu, motherboard, and ram combo can handle up to a 4090 (and even 5090 for the most part…you even have a PSU rated for enough watts for either GPUs as well but you would have to set a power limit and/or undervolt…but that is something anyone should do to get best performance from those GPUs to begin with, let alone best power efficiency and lower power consumption). GPUs are what mainly determine real world gaming performance. CPU fps charts are only shown for tests done at 1080p ie when a game would be cpu bound rather than gpu bound. If you game at 1440p or higher resolution you likely won’t be CPU bound at all in most games even if running a 4090/5090. Since you don’t even have a top of the line gpu like those that just means your cpu, motherboard, and ram are even more future proofed for gaming needs. Your coworker is only correct in the sense that more people should at this point purchase AM5 at this point as they will then be able to upgrade CPUs if they want to without necessarily needing a new motherboard and definitely won’t need new ram. But AM4 is still really no slouch, especially if you can get a deal like it sounds you did and doubly so with ram prices.

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

Thank you for taking the time to explain so well friend!

I will certainly listen to you and the many kind others that reminded me of this!

Thanks again, hope you have a wonderful weekend!

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garbageemail222@reddit

Your computer is excellent. I have a B550/5800x3d/9070xt system that was top of the line when I built it in 2020 (gpu was an upgrade more recently) and it's still a beast. I play any game I want at good settings on 1440p, and it can handle a lot at 4k. I haven't had any desire to upgrade yet.

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Chidling@reddit

You could still totally upgrade on this platform too btw. There are a couple higher end CPUs that still run on AM4 like the 7800 series.

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stuttufu@reddit

It will, consider I built mine in 2018 spending an average budget and I am still playing fine, Expedition 33 at medium resolution for example.

Especially with the current market prices, it's not the time to make big investments in PC hardware.

In my case I'll get my brothers old PC to replace mine in the next few months. No way I am spending a dime with these prices.

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ragun2@reddit

Also, it could serve for ages depending on what kind of games you play. My friends and I have gotten "old" and mostly play base building, colony Sims, ARPGs, RTS. Mostly.

Whenever, in like the last decade, someone upgrades at some point it's exciting at first. Usually everyone's excited for them and that person goes through a short lived period of trying out AAA titles but never sticking with them.

Every time all of us end up going back to games that aren't very hardware intensive.

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-Moggye@reddit

Don’t listen to this dude, he is a liar. I’m totally not playing red alert 2 on my Samsung oled g9 with my 3080 after two years.

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

This made me laugh harder than expected.

We first tried some heavy games to see how the PC he’s up, but then went back to playing apex legends🤣.

Funny how close to the truth this actually is.

Thanks brother!

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Rhoden913@reddit

Your PC is slightly stronger then mine. I run everything on the market no issues 1440p.. I dont dabble in 4k but.. meh. You'll be golden

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SnooPandas7723@reddit

I have the most powerfull am4 build from amd and play 4k in every game without issues. Waiting for am6 for my next upgrade. Am5 is instable in games.

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ljdelight@reddit

This is why i stopped working on computers for family and friends, people are just too fucking dumb and selfish for it to be worth it. Your colleague is a cuck, that build is perfectly fine, your friend is cool for literally paying for most of the cost (you are a selfish motherfucker), AND AMD is looking at releasing new CPUs that support the last Gen am4 because of the crazy market costs. Hope that clears things up.

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

I’m offended but I you’re right I guess, although the “selfish motherfucker” was uncalled for.

We are very good friends and been through a lot together.

Hope you have a great day.

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SherLocK-55@reddit

He is right dude and used the words appropriately. You got most of this for free and still complain that it might be outdated. Like WTF.

You should be grateful that he gifted you anything at all. This is why I hate humanity sometimes.

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

My friend it’s hard to judge others with knowing the full picture, I mean this with honest intent.

My children call him uncle and we have seen many years of both laughter and sad times.

I asked this question because I was afraid of having to upgrade in 1-2 years and most of my parts losing their value. If I could upgrade for a little bit more money now i would still be just as thankful to my brother for this gift because it got me going.

Knowing him he will be happier than me seeing me upgrade my PC already (he will have to build it anyway).

He himself recommended me a 9800x3d and a b650 upgrade if I was “feeling rich”.

The gifts we give each other are not to recieve anything back or to keep track.

Hope this clarifies it.

Have a nice day!

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Shadowraiden@reddit

you was given these specs and are treating it like shit.

yes you are an ungrateful person

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SherLocK-55@reddit

Have you never heard the saying "Never look a gift horse in the mouth"

This is what you're doing here dude, if I did this for someone and they came back to me asking why or even if it's outdated I would be pissed off.

Regardless of what your friend just remember this and be grateful, on top of all that the build is perfectly fine, more than fine and doesn't need upgrading right now, will last for many more years.

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

That’s fair.

If you would feel like that even after what I explained to you then I understand.

I tried to show you my point of view.

Maybe I’ll even bring it up again and ask him if I was wrong for asking that question.

Regardless thank you for your input.

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neddoge@reddit

You're being downvoted despite your cordial and well mannered disposition unfortunately. Don't pay it any mind. The short is that this system will easily last you 5 years and likely longer.

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

Thank you for recognizing my friend! I appreciate your kind words.

The people here gave me great advice and made me feel a lot better overal about my PC build.

I will forgive a few honest downvotes. Maybe I even admire their honesty to defend my friend a little bit🤣.

Happy to believe that I may be wrong too, so overall I do not regret posting it until now.

Thanks again for your kind words brother!

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DJShepherd@reddit

Do you really not understand how ungrateful you sound?? Your new PC works great and perfect for your needs. This whole DDR4/5 is total nonsense!

Your PC works great for your needs and will last you a few years! You don’t need the over priced newest hardware to get amazing PC gaming experience.

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Sleddoggamer@reddit

I think with the context of resale value, your right to assume its dates and its losing value as you speak, but if you had a recent look at prices your not going to be getting a new one for a profit.

Yoy can't get much better on AM4, and you'll probably be able to run it until AM6. By than it probably won't sale for much at all, but you also might not be missing out with current prices if its still keeping up for you

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

I think you perfectly summed up the problem in trying to upgrade.

I’m very happy and I’ll gladly keep it like this for years to come!

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Sleddoggamer@reddit

Run her until she dies. If i wasn't sure it would cost almost as much to ship it as to just find the parts myself, I'd offer 70% of what you need to get on AM5 just because I want to do the same

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Sleddoggamer@reddit

I don't know how hard set you are on selling it.

"If your feeling rich" is probably the perfect way to put it right now. Its going to cost you 2k to get another X3D CPU up and running on AM5 if you don't want to reuse what you can, but assuming your current build is in pristine condition and you have a good market to work this is probably the most your current rigs going to go for since demand for AM4 is also up and its exactly what people want

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NinjasaurusRex123@reddit

Bud, your PC will always be outdated. The second you upgrade, a new upgrade will be available. As soon as you buy, a better deal will become available.

That system likely will be more than sufficient for you and for all you know, by the time it isn’t, the newest tech hotness will make DDR5 look obsolete. Don’t get caught up in what your colleague is saying about money that ain’t his. Enjoy your perfectly working system and don’t let other people tell you or your buddy your fun is wrong

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

Thanks so much friend.

I think that captures it very well. Seeing all you experienced people give me the same answer regarding this eased my mind a lot.

Thank you for taking the time!

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Pmaldo87@reddit

OP has been pretty articulate. When you come in here swearing at ppl and still trying to act holier than thou is crazy actually lol

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LefroyJenkinsTTV@reddit

Beware the snake using a honeyed tongue.

I've found much more honest and meaningful discussions with people who are crass and 'look unintelligent' than I have with people who hide behind what they think are pretty words.

I also find they understand the distinction between 'being nice' vs 'being good' to others.

OP's question did very much indicate selfishness, and while calling that out wasn't 'nice', if it caused OP to reflect and grow, it was very much 'good'.

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KH33tBit@reddit

How are you getting upvoted? This is super uncalled for. OP was just asking as he is new to PC Building and wants some info to help clear their head.

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

Thank you my friend!

I think you captured my frame of mind perfectly.

Appreciate your kind words brother!

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InvaderJ@reddit

Thx for posting the right answer to all this

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AesirRising@reddit

Realest comment here.

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Vivid-Software6136@reddit

The only thing that was a poor purchase was the 7800XT imo. I actually own one but it's aged kinda poorly. But if you got it for a good price it's still a very capable GPU for 99% of anything you want to do.

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chrimen@reddit

You're fine s 5700x3d is a very nice chip and the GPU is esquivalent to a 4070.

I have a very similar set up and run at 1440P with maxed out graphics on all my games getting high frame rates.

You're solid for a good couple of more years.

Every year new tech is released don't follow the hype.

If you can play the games you want at high enough frame rates ignore the new tech till you start setting performance drops.

If you're gaming at 4k my recommendation is get a nice 1440P monitor and enjoy the shit out of your new pc.

4K gaming on PC isn't quite there yet. You'll need a $3k GPU to get above 60FPS work frame generation. Not worth it my friend.

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Miniteshi@reddit

You have one of THE best AM4 CPUs on the market without question. With a simple GPU upgrade maybe a year down the line, you still would be able to game on a lot of stuff at a high quality preset.

Even then, your current GPU is actually quite solid for everyday use. The only teir above yours from your generation was the 7900 series so in terms of what you have, don't sweat it.

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imtougherthanyou@reddit

I sold my outdated (at the time) PC, downgraded to a unit 10 years older than that, and can still run most of my games just fine. Outdated doesn't mean broken ;)

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TactualTransAm@reddit

Brother we've got people on ddr3 systems still gaming in 2026. It'll last, no worries. Plus if you ever run into any issues there's billions of used parts out there to get it back up and running cheaply

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ChuckMauriceFacts@reddit

Also (assuming gaming is your primary concern), that CPU & the rest of the build can handle a much better GPU if the 7800XT starts being limiting. I'm running my 5700X3D with a 9070XT without issues, and anything outside of a 4090/5090 will probably run fine without CPU bottleneck.

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igwbuffalo@reddit

Your PC is plenty fine for what you want to do with it right now.

There might be a few games you have to tune settings down but bit overall you have a nice machine there.

The best PC is the one you can afford to play the games you enjoy.

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tpablazed@reddit

Idk if I would say DDR5 is the future tbh.. it's the right now for sure.. but with RAM prices so is DDR4.

DDR6 is the future.. it's just not available for consumer PC builds just yet.

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Salty-Yogurt-4214@reddit

Wtf? Why are you writing this is the fastest AM4 system possible? Are you stoned or something? What a nonsense!

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aragorn18@reddit

I was specifically talking about for gaming and only the CPU platform. Technically the Ryzen 5800X3D is slightly faster, but not enough to matter.

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Salty-Yogurt-4214@reddit

If the cube doesn't fit in round thing just hammer off the edges. I see. 😜

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aragorn18@reddit

Honestly, I was typing quickly and didn't clearly communicate. That's why I went back and clarified my statement. Thank you for calling me out.

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ThirdWorldOrder@reddit

Back to your cave, troll

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

What do you think is the fastest ddr4 system if I may ask?

My friend told me he could tune my memory to be even faster but we didn’t have time after we build it.

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Loserweebs@reddit

Technically it is Ryzen 9 5950x + rtx 5090 combo. But this is enthusiastic level of PC gaming, you would have to spend way to much money to squeeze out as much performance out of am4 system. Your is solid for 1080p gaming, even 1440p.

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Comrade_Chyrk@reddit

If gaming is the priority, the 5700x3d will outperform the 5950x.

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Salty-Yogurt-4214@reddit

5800X3D!

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senorjc@reddit

Every x3d am4 processor is generally better for gaming; even the 5500x3d edges out the 5950x.

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r_z_n@reddit

For gaming a 5800X3D is much faster than a 5950X. I had both.

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Kustu05@reddit

Intel 14700K/14900K/KS and it's not even that close.

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Sayhi2realgod@reddit

Okay but this is actually impressive

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arkanovac@reddit

Your system is basically the fastest DDR4-based gaming PC that will ever be possible

so wrong

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WatIsRedditQQ@reddit

Yeah nothing stopping you from throwing a 5090 in there and could bump up to a 5800X3D

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FlaviusStilicho@reddit

I got a 5800X3D and an RTX5080 … I cannot see any reason why I would upgrade. Every runs silky smooth with very high refresh rates.

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DrThunder66@reddit

I have a5700x3d and a 5080 and see zero reason to upgrade

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arkanovac@reddit

you could also bump it to a 14900ks, the actual strongest cpu to support ddr4

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kingwhocares@reddit

DDR5 is indeed the future

We are coming at the end of DDR5.

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PiotrekDG@reddit

At this point, OP can probably skip DDR5 completely. Maybe, at some point in the future, DDR6 will reach affordable levels.

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ShiftPrimeNet@reddit

yeah, the 5700x3d is basically the endgame chip for that b550 board. if the 7800 xt is doing what you need, paying $300-400 extra for am5 mostly buys upgrade path, not a magic fps jump.

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tinysydneh@reddit

It can be both outdated and totally sufficient for most needs.

I have very nearly that machine, and it runs Pragmata more or less maxed out at 4K reasonably well.

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NormalWhore@reddit

If anything the gpu is kind of meh, not the am4 platform

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IanFoxOfficial@reddit

Before I got my new laptop due to being away from home for an extended period of time, my over 10 year old desktop with i7 5820K, 32 GB ram, GTX 1080 was still perfectly fine for everything I did with it.

My new laptop runs circles around it but I don't think other than being wowed by real time raytracing and games at ultra settings on high resolutions the fun of playing games has improved dramatically over when I played those games at lower settings.

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Miserable-Potato7706@reddit

Absolutely great PC. As you said in your edit, tell your colleague to F off and to stop trying to put people down for no reason.

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BitingProcessing@reddit

anyone saying a pc is outdated after a year is just trying to sound smart, if it runs what you wanna play smooth thats all that matters

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doombase310@reddit

"Comparison is the thief of joy". Your PC is totally fine. There is always something better. Enjoy your PC as is for now. When it's slow and not up to the job, get a new PC. That's just how it works in the PC world.

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Unlikely_Spot4776@reddit

PC is going to be great even in the future depending on ur needs/wants but still perfectly strong enough and will be for awhile especially due to the extra L3 cache ur PC in most games will preform near the same as DDr5 PCs more so at higher resolutions I thought about upgrading my 5800x3d but was like at best a 10% increase for my uses I imagine the 5700x3d will do just as well Although I’d sell the Samsung BDie and pick up some dual channel kit b die at least use to sell for a lot I imagine they have gone up but could probably sell pick up a cheap like 3600 kit 2x16 and profit without losing any performance might even gain a little not 100% sure how much of a effect x4 vs x2 ram has on those and if any of my info is wrong feel free to correct me not a professional at all and if someone knows more I will always take more info

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Ill-Resolution-4671@reddit

Yeah, fuck that colleague. Your friend knows whats up. Its always possible to spend more money and go for the best there is, but it would be muuch more costly to go for say 9800x3d and ddr5. The motherboards are much more expensive as well. Basically everything is

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CommercialCoyote4253@reddit

There's nothing wrong with your system It's barely even a real generation old The AM for socket is 10 years old but you have one of the newest processors that has ever been made for it. My whole system is still that same type of stuff I run a 5800 X3D It games better than some of the newer stuff some of the newer stuff slightly games better than it. The exorbitant amount of money you would have to spend versus the amount of performance gain which is going to be between 25 and maybe 30% depending on the game to me is not worth it. To go to anything that's more modern You literally have to replace pretty much everything except your case and your power supply if you're lucky.

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Gravyrobber9000@reddit

The RAM is insignificant. I'm in the same boat. Basically any upgrade would require additional upgrades, none of which would be worth the cost at this time. I am even considering buying another AM4 motherboard to put some spare parts to make a more powerful arcade. Some people just babble nonsense when something isn't the latest and greatest.

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gonekrazy3000@reddit

ignore that moron. your rig will hold you till am6. just enjoy gaming. I have an rtx 5080 inside a nearly identical build and im perfectly happy. your rig can handle a much beefier gpu.

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NoscuraM5@reddit

The key sentence you used was “Honestly I was really happy with it. Everything runs great, no complaints.”. If that PC truly made you happy and you are happy with the performance, which it’s still a beast even on AM4. Then don’t worry about what others say. It kinda annoys me when there always that one person who’s like “yeah but your PC is outdated”. Even if it’s outdated, it’s still giving you performance you’re happy with. Don’t let his opinion stick in your head or make you change the way you see your PC. Your PC is absolutely powerful especially with a 5800X3D and 7800XT. And since RAM prices have increased, AM4 isn’t a bad decision at all.

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NoscuraM5@reddit

I understand what he means but it’s YOUR PC. If someone says it’s outdated, think to yourself. Are you happy with your PCs performance? If yes, then don’t bother worrying about what anyone says. There will always be people with a newer system and faster hardware but if you are happy with it, then don’t worry.

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Soylent-Greens@reddit

You don't have an upgrade path, other than bumping up your RAM amount. But that should be okay for a while to be honest.

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Berens835@reddit

Lol tell your colleague to F off, your friend is right, 5700X3D is really good, it's pretty much the same as 7700 for AAA game titles and performs better in MMO and FPS games due to the larger L3 cache, and 7800xt has 16G ram if you don't care about ray tracing it's basically a 4070 with more ram and perfectly fine for 2k gaming, the extra money you spend on AM5 won't get you a much better performance, if you follow AMD news, they are about to rerelease 5800X3D soon and earlier this year they just release a new 5500X3D CPU, if AM4 is outdated then why AMD keep releasing new and old good X3D CPUs in 2026

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onoapolarbear@reddit

That platform is so freaking good. I’m planning to upgrade to what you have just because it’s way more affordable.

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An4rchy48946@reddit

It is kinda outdated but if you don’t need anything more powerful, then it’s perfectly fine.

Bonus points if you received the parts from your friend for free

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leewalkermusic@reddit

Dude, I have an older Ryzen 5, 32gb of DDR4 and a 3060 12gb. I’ve never had a problem that DLSS can’t solve in games if I’m unable to run native. That system is fine.

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minefew@reddit

Why would you put your friend on the line over a gaming PC? I think he needs a better friend

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Dirtzoo@reddit

Dude you're good you're good off 1440p let's go

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AnOccasionalPeeker@reddit

CPU is outdated. But, newer versions are pretty expensive and people just get older versions because they can last 5-10 years if taken care of properly.

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LennelCW@reddit

You have a great PC. And you said "I was really happy with it, everything runs great. No complaints"

That's the only thing that matters.

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Heyron420@reddit

It’s a very nice gaming pc. Many people would be very happy with that.

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Intelligent_Stick_@reddit

It is outdated. But it still satisfies your needs for less money.

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No_Witness5630@reddit

Well

You have a better PC then like 80% of gamers tbh

It's "outdated" as in in the future, like 3-5 years into the future, you might struggle with newer things and will need to upgrade. And that upgrade will be costly as you will need to go into AM5/DDR5 so you'll need to replace a couple of things at once

If you would already have AM5 then you could upgrade 1 thing at a time as needed

Tbh those 3-5 years might even be more due to DLSS, Frame gen and other optimalization things that are being developer further

So in short. Don't worry about it

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Kyle_2099@reddit

Your computer isn't outdated at all, he's just being an asshole. The RX 7800 XT came out last year, and the 5700X3D is known to be a fantastic CPU.

AM4 is an incredibly long lived platform and AM5 is a luxury option. Ignore that guy.

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smodanc@reddit

Perfect build definitely not outdated! 4 years from now will be a different story but you’ve got years of solid gaming ahead of you. Worst case scenario your upgrading your gpu sooner than that

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The-Numbertaker@reddit

You didn't mess up, it's "last gen", which isn't the same as outdated because outdated implies it doesn't run current stuff well. If it's giving you enough performance and you're hitting your monitor refresh rates there are zero issues and you won't feel the PC being insufficient for 5+ years likely.

Not being on AM5 is only an issue if you're likely to upgrade CPU super frequently because you don't need to switch motherboard. And it doesn't make sense to get DDR5 right now unless you're prepared to spend the extra money on the RAM and an AM5 CPU/motherboard. As long as you aren't going to be upgrading super frequently, which seems likely, you're at a great sweet spot in terms of price to performance AND longevity.

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HistoricalAbalone914@reddit

I don't know about amd stuff but ddr4 is just as good as ddr5 for gaming and it's also cheaper (at least it used to be, im not up to date with prices)

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CallistoAU@reddit

Friend that PC is totally fine. Sure it’s not top of the line brand new stuff. It’s about on par with what I use myself that I built in 2021/2022. Totally fine PC I still use today and will continue to use for a fair while longer.

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Dapherr@reddit

sounds like your coworker doesn't know the current price of DDR5 lol. DDR4 is best for price to performance right now. you did great

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awdrifter@reddit

DDR5 process are insane right now, nothing wrong with building a DDR4 system.

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Substantial_Mix8002@reddit

Turn on frame gen and it’ll be good for 10 years

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slawter118@reddit

Your pc parts are outdated within months of purchase. That isn’t the way to think about it

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Wyrade@reddit

Depends on last year when.

Frankly, with the current RAM apocalypse, it's best to not buy a PC at all and just wait a few years until prices will presumably go back to a reasonable level. But they were still pretty reasonable before that (so before 2025 october or something), and I do think a DDR5 system would have been a better investment at that point.

But if you *have* to buy one now, and you don't want the top of the top, just a pretty good one with more reasonable prices, then a DDR4 system with an 5700X3D cpu is indeed pretty good.

An amd 7800 XT gpu is pretty good still, although for most of last year the amd 9000 series was already out. But depending on the local price, the 7800 XT might have been the better deal.

It also depends on what exactly you want to use if for, what resolution you want to play, what fps is your goal.
But still, if you wanted to upgrade later, you'd probably be able to sell your current system for a pretty decent price.

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andy_mcbeard@reddit

A friend of mine built an AM4 in 2026, because he was on a 2008 i5 and ANYTHING was going to be a massive increase. With the current cost of memory, motherboards, and hard drives, you just kinda have to buy what you want when you either need or be extra patient if you're hunting for deals.

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Zagorim@reddit

I think it would cost way more than 300–400€ above what you paid to go for AM5, considering the price of RAM. Also if you went for AM5 then you would have wanted a stronger gpu is you try to make a balanced system so easily 1000€+ over what your pc cost was. A lot of people are still using and building AM4 for this very reason.

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heydanalee@reddit

If it works for you, it’s good. “Outdated” is only a thing if it doesn’t perform well enough for your tasks. Additionally, given the insane price hikes lately of current-gen stuff, your friend would need to be a millionaire to afford building a current-gen system as a gift.

Sounds like a solid system.

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chillywilly2k@reddit

While there’s no upgrade path on AM4 your friend absolutely made every right choice for price to performance in today’s market and that’s a great rig

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nivengoh@reddit

Nothing wrong with your friends build, it’s free plus it’s a very good value to performance which is what we PC builders love the most. Just because it isn’t the best doesn’t mean it doesn’t get the job done. In the end you want best cost to performance ratio you can get while able to meet the requirements you need for gaming.

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Responsible_Peach600@reddit

I have similar specs on my pc, and I'm gaming at 1440p with 4 year old equipment. AM4/DDR4 is absolutely fine. Bonus since its a gift.

I'm building an AM5 system for my daughter. They're trying to convince me it will only run games at 1080p unless i buy a flagship gpu. I will probably get one just to future proof her system, since AM5 is already old, too (2022). But there's plenty of life left in the AM4.

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AppropriateTouching@reddit

"Honestly I was really happy with it. Everything runs great, no complaints."

You're good then.

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failmafia66@reddit

With the price of things now, and the quality of the parts you snagged, this is a very viable build still. Is it older, but doesn't mean that's a problem. Especially with the price you paid!

You have another 5+ years easy, maybe a small GPU upgrade in there.

Some people just wanna shit on others people's happiness, or think an upgrade is required every 3 years. These people probably also only lease cars so they never escape a car payment

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

I genuinely feel a lot better after reading all you guys comments! Especially knowing I won’t have to upgrade for 5+ years. The pc runs very smooth as well. Thanks my friend.

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shraf2k@reddit

You could upgrade the GPU next year and be golden for a while. But don't listen to anyone telling you a 750w psu is enough for a 4090/5090 or even 6090 in the future. I wouldn't power one of those with anything less than 1000w PSU

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Iambeejsmit@reddit

5700x3d is a beast for its time and even by today's standard is very good.

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MDCCCLV@reddit

The price increase is huge and real, but its no big deal. Like if there's an earthquake in thailand and hard drive prices permanently go up 30% right before you buy then it's how it is and you just get the best product for the best price at the time. And prices might triple later this year so then it becomes a great deal but you already have it so you don't have to worry about it now.

That said the best upgrade path is to wait until prices go down then add another drive if you use it a lot and it starts to fill up, a big hdd or another nvme. Your ram is enough unless you do 4k large file editing video raw or ai stuff. It's normal to have a mid cycle gpu refresh when you get another two generations in in 3-4 years. Then you can usually give the gpu as a hand me down to someone you know in the same situation 2 generations behind you. It makes a circle of life, and it's kind to give pc to young kids that only have a shitty chromebook or console or upgrade if they don't have a dedicated gpu at all just integrated graphics.

You always want to buy used from last generation if you can, the price per performance is 2x better. But you only need to upgrade anymore really if you're getting a bigger monitor like 1080p to 4k, or 4k to high frame rate 4k. Otherwise with dlss gpus will last a long time now.

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trouttwade@reddit

Good! I know that feeling, but rest assured you’ve got a good system that will last you plenty long enough to save up some money for when you start feeling the performance doesn’t meet your needs.

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failmafia66@reddit

Don't let other people rain on your parade! Let yourself be happy

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CaviarCBR1K@reddit

One of my biggest pet peeves is people acting like you basically need to upgrade your entire PC every year. If you have the money to do that and just WANT the latest and greatest, fine go for it. But OP's build is perfectly fine for another 5+ years AT LEAST.

My build is barely over a year old, it's a 12900k, 32gb DDR5, and 4070 and I've had people tell me it's outdated because LGA1700 is a "dead platform" and soon my GPU will be 2 generations old. So fucking what? It's still an extremely powerful PC and does everything I need it to do, WITH extra headroom. Just because a component in a generation or two old, it doesn't make it obsolete. I still have machines running 2nd and 3rd gen i5s, and they still work perfectly fine for what I'm using them for. I cannot fucking stand the elitism among some PC "enthusiasts."

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bazookatroopa@reddit

you locked yourself into the older platform instead of the newer one so basically no upgrades

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zugman@reddit

That’s a pretty solid build you’ve got there. I think people get caught up in the hype of having the latest stuff. With the price of components right now, probably a lot of the best value is found in the previous gen stuff. I think you’ve got a great setup for what you got. And the good news is when you’re ready to upgrade, something even better will be waiting around the corner.

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SenkaDarkheart@reddit

Outdated is only relevant when it's no longer doing what you need it to do. I'm still using an AMD Ryzen 7 5700 XT CPU and until recently was still using a AMD Radeon 7800 XT myself.

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gtxNorge@reddit

That CPU is amazing for games, doesn't matter that you have ddr4- you got plenty of it. The GPU is a good value, not super high the but should be great for 1080p gaming. If you have 1440/2160 resolution in mind, you have to spend 2k+ on a 5090 but perhaps someday a GPU will exist that you can throw in there cheaply. For now though, seems like good specs for a solid PC that should last for years to come

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sheffielder87@reddit

Throw a 9070 xt in there at some point and you're cooking...

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BemaJinn@reddit

Honestly that's a pretty good rig.

It's not top of the line best of the best, but in the current crisis nobody is doing that. Also as a side effect of that, most developers are super optimising their games to work on lower spec machines.

You have a pretty good machine there, enjoy it.

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Affectionate_Wave_19@reddit

This is a very solid build. It'll be enough for the next couple of years. Im more than likely skipping am5 myself. I just did a gpu upgrade (got a 9070 msrp) and just gonna ride out am4. I likely wont upgrade until am6.

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WizardMoose@reddit

Take a shit in your friends pillow case tonight. Seriously. He deserves it for being this dull minded and unintelligent on computer hardware.

5700x3d outdated? That's a wild take 7800xt outdated? Excuse me? Even got the 32GB of RAM.

Just to put it in perspective, you can play any game you throw at this thing in 1440p at high/ultra graphics and expect 100 frames, with a handful of exceptions for some more poorly optimized games. Apparently, according to your friend, that's outdated.

I'm not kidding, take a shit in his pillow case tonight.

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Dexter5804@reddit

Dont worry, i did the same thing, buying a 7800xt and a am4 x3d chip i forget which one. Right before am5 and ddr5 took off, honestly no regrets. System runs great, games are smoother than ever with less frame drops than ever with intel systems.

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Putrid-Stranger9752@reddit

No you didn’t mess up and that’s actually a really good build. Work guy is trying to one up you and is prob just a trend follower. My main rig is AM5 as well, but I’m not gonna tell you that build is out dated. My other rig has a 5700X3D paired with a 7600XT. If I wasn’t fortunate enough to be on AM5 I’d still have that build as my main rig.

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Hopperj6@reddit

I'm still using a 1080TI

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Immediate-Life-5393@reddit

Perfectly fine build for 5+ years and best bang for buck honestly. Better route to go then overpay for an AM5 system.

Even then, you shouldn’t even worry about upgrading until it literally can’t do what you want it do. I’m still using my main system I built since 2019 with no issues.

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washingtonbtw@reddit

More than half of PC owners dream about the components of your computer. From this point of view, your friend is wrong.

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ranzi0_@reddit

That's an ultra settings 1080p/high 1440p build, don't listen to your goober coworker, nice PC bro.

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UberwolfA1@reddit

The guy in work is a retailers dream, always wanting the latest greatest weather he needs it or would use it.

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CoyotePrudent6560@reddit

Well if shit hits the fan you can repair this without selling your kidneys at least XD

ALSO i bought the similar spec pc also at the same time period where pc components were normal and i also uave the same thing on my mind whether i should have went with am5 i sted of am4 but i had enough money to buy pc accessories with the saved up money so im kinda happy with the purchase

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Mr_Rxz@reddit

That cpu still a strong one for its build.

As long you can play current game, shouldn't be an issue.

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dphizler@reddit

I still use my 14 year old rig, but I do consider it outdated

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kikkelele@reddit

You have pretty much peak AM4 build there. Nothing to be ashamed for. DDR4 based builds are for sure relevant during these times

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Deranfan@reddit

It's only outdated in the sense that you have essentially no upgrade path for your cpu and you are stuck at ddr4. The 5800x3d is the only CPU you can upgrade to, but it's rare and costs to much.

Specs wise the PC should handle modern titles at max settings without issues.

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soru_baddogai@reddit

I would have gotten a different GPU, something from this generation but it seems like a great pc anyways. As other have said this is the on best gaming CPUs on DDR4. And everything else in better than good.

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jmc0053@reddit

Whoever said this build is outdated and dead hasn’t looked at the market lately. You’re fine dude stop stressing. Your friend was right especially if you didn’t have the extra budget. A year ago you could’ve built a better AM5 build for the same price as this. Rn that simply isn’t the case and you would have spent AT LEAST the 3-400 he said you would, but depending on other factors likely even more

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arrestinbias@reddit

DDR4 is outdated as no newer hardware will be made but that doesn’t mean it’s bad. Higher end DDR4 systems run modern software and games excellent. What are you running that 128 GB of RAM or a ryzen 5950x wouldn’t run well?

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HCharlesB@reddit

Honestly I was really happy with it.

Isn't that what really matters?

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Rapom613@reddit

I’m running a 2 gen old GPU (3080ti) that many would consider “outdated” but it dog walks a lot of brand new gpus until you get to big $

You have a nice system, and plenty of people would love to have something like that. Hell I have a friend I’m trying to put something together for that would LOVE what you have, just out of his budget.

If it does what you want, who cares how old it is. If it runs the games you want, at the resolution and FPS you find acceptable, it doesn’t matter if it’s 15 years old

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Reikix@reddit

First of all: Don't mind it. Why? Whenever you buy a phone or build a PC, it will be "outdated" in a few months or a year.

Second: That CPU runs games a really high FPS with very steady frame pacing since it's an X3D chip. And that graphics card runs better than a current RTX 5070 (which costs like 200USD more) and a it's just a little slower than a RTX 5070 to (which costs about 500USD more).

The AM5 system would have costed way more for a CPU that would probably have worse or just equal frame pacing unless you had spent like 400USD getting an X3D chip, the 5700X3D was around 180USD.

By the time you need to change the CPU (which would require changing the board and memory), you would have needed to do the same even with an AM5 CPU since this CPU will probably provide more than enough performance for gaming for a long time and by the time you feel it's not enough we will probably already be on AM6 or whatever name they use for the next CPU socket.

I don't know what is the matter with kids these days that think they need to switch their CPUs every couple years. You can take a CPU from 4-5 years ago and it will run virtually any game at 150FPS+ without problems, most of them running higher than that with the bottleneck being the GPU.

Also, the GPU can be upgraded at any time given you have the money as it does not depend on any other component and it currently on par with high end GPUs. It's only missing out on the latest upscaling from AMD, which you probably won't need given the performance this card provides at 1440p.

You know the funny thing? I have a similar system. I got a 5700X3D, RX 7800 XT, a X570 TUF board, 32GB of memory. I used to have a Ryzen 5 5600 CPU until a couple years ago, and I have never felt like I need an AM5 CPU. I think the only game that is actually pushing the card to its limits to provide decent performance is ARK: Survival Ascended, and that is a game where even the most powerful gaming graphics card in existence struggles since the game is a dumpster fire in matters of performance, when it launched two years ago nobody could run it at 60FPS without some frame generation at max settings in 1080p.

So... Whatever, this just means when you want to upgrade your CPU many years from now, you will have to get new memory to switch to DDR5 or DDR5 if it's out, and also switch the board, which you would also have to do even if you went with AM6.

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IncomprehensiveScale@reddit

Is it the newest thing on the block? No. Is it outdated? Also no.

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Jupiter-Tank@reddit

There is no such thing as in or out of date, unless there is some specific compatibility issue that’s preventing you from doing something. In your case, your CPU is 2 generations back and the gpu is one generation back. You are still rocking relatively modern hardware, but more importantly it’s somewhat powerful hardware. You’ll be fine for the vast majority of usecases, if not doing very well.

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xl129@reddit

The PC is powerful enough for all your current requirements and probably will be fine for at least 3 years down the road.

Going AM5 cost extra but open up path for upgrading (later you need to change out that AM4 mobo if you want to upgrade).

Worth it ? Probably not with the current price of DDR5. Going AM5 used to make a lot more sense back when DDR5 was 1/3 the price of it is now.

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JetstreamJefff@reddit

My build that I’ve slowly upgraded when parts go on sale is a Ryzen 7 5800X3D with ddr4 and I just swapped in a 4th Samsung 990 Pro and a 5070 ti. It’s perfectly capable for any current game, dropping more money on an am5 platform with ddr5 is foolish when you won’t notice any meaningful gains in your day to day use.

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KingBenjamin97@reddit

It’s outdated in such that you’re on ddr4 and any upgrades will need a new motherboard, cpu and ram.

If it suits your needs then don’t bother upgrading for a while, basically everyone who’s pc hasn’t had hardware issues is waiting for the price of ddr5 to return to a sensible level before they upgrade.

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Caddy666@reddit

you've had your desktop from a week?

throw that junk away man, its an antique!

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amberoze@reddit

I'm rocking an AMD ryzen 5 3600 and an RX 580. Your friend is just shilling for you to buy better parts. For what reason, I couldn't guess. If what you have performs well enough for your needs, then tell your friend to back off. My PC does what I want it to, plus some. I'll upgrade when/if I need to. You're good, don't stress.

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CB279@reddit

With the prices of DDR5, your friend made a very smart decision going with AM4 and DDR4 and a X3D chip.

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Smashing_Zebras@reddit

Advising someone to buy a board that uses ddr5 is a terrible, terrible, stupid right now.

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Technical-Coffee7286@reddit

It’s not new hardware, but that in no way means it’s bad. You got a motherboard and RAM for free so buying the CPU for it just makes sense.

If it makes you feel any better I have a 3700x and I get 120fps minimum in every game on high settings. I have literally never wanted for more hardware in the 6 years I’ve had this pc and I do CAD work and other heavy tasks. I’ve been building a media server recently and I’ve been ripping DVDs and encoding multiple rips at a time (very CPU intensive), all while doing some other task while it runs in the background like gaming or CAD.

Anyone who tells you old hardware sucks and is unusable is parroting advice from 10 years ago. Yes it’s not as good as the latest and greatest, but anything from the last 5 years will be perfectly suitable for a new PC gamer.

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Parking_Cress_5105@reddit

It's fine since building a DDR5 setup is just financial madness right now.

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mar10br0-new@reddit

First of all: EVERY build is outdated once up and runningSecond of all: NO build is outdated if it can do what you need it to do.

Both your colleague and your friend are kinda correct. AM4 will not get any newer CPUs, so is considered a "dead" platform. But your CPU/GPU combo is capable of running modern games at decent frame rates and quality for a few more years (not at 4K resolution though)

But your friend is correct in saying that higher performance and future-proofing comes at a cost and often with very diminishing returns (especially the last 2 generations of hardware has given mediocre performance gains for a hefty price over their predecessor)

In my 30+ years of PC building "future proofing" never pans out as well as you hoped for.

In your case by the time yours really starts showing its age AM6 is probably out with affordable options to build something new.

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

I think this captures it pretty well.

If I may ask a personal question because you have a lot of experience.

Do you think my generation (AM4 I think?) will hold up for the years to come? And have there been certain generations that stand out in terms of their longevity?

Thank you so much!

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ReverendDizzle@reddit

If you aren't chasing performance benchmarks and playing the absolute newest games at the highest resolution possible on the best monitor you can get your hands on... it's pretty much a non-issue.

I don't upgrade anything in my computer or consider building a new computer, as long as I can play the games I want to play and daily use is smooth and lag/stutter free.

Using that as my guide, I usually only upgrade every 5-6 years. And as time goes on, I'm playing fewer and fewer newer games so, honestly, my upgrade window might even expand.

You'll save yourself a lot of headaches thinking about upgrades that way. If in 5 years everyone is like "wow, that hardware is so outdated!" but it runs the games you like playing, who cares? Drive it until the wheels fall off.

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mar10br0-new@reddit

In terms of longevity the Nvidia GTX1080 will rank high, released in 2016 (almost doubling performance of its predecessor, something no GPU released since can claim), still being sold and runs even today's AAA games on 1080p at reduced quality. For CPUs it's harder to point at one single CPU, but AM4 also came out in 2016 and as many here highlight is still a very capable platform for building a sensible PC

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AzureBat@reddit

5700X3D is still a good CPU, would say it's around mid range right now and so it should hold up for a good 3-5 years at minimum. AM4 has had a good run in longevity, the only bad thing is that it is already done and there won't be any better CPUs being released for it (You already have the best CPU for AM4). AM5 on the other hand is the current gen socket which has been going very strong for the past few years.

Your friend is right that AM5 would cost quite a bit more. But we may have to evaluate depending on the prices that you paid. How much did you pay for the 5700X3D and the 7800XT?

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

Thanks friend.

At the time I paid €230 for the 5700x3d and €680 for the Asus Tuf 7800 XT. The 7800x3d was going for €320 around then i believe.

Hope this helps.

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AzureBat@reddit

Okay then that changes things quite a bit.

Which time period last year did you buy these? There was a huge price hike starting from around mid Oct all the way until now. So if you bought the PC before then, AM5 would actually have been the right choice. But if it was after, then AM4 would be quite an acceptable tradeoff. But the GPU is definitely a questionable choice.

Let's look at a breakdown:

I want to look at the GPU first. 7800XT is a weird choice to buy last year. The correct choice would have been the 9070XT which could have easily been found around €650-700 if we look at prices from mid to end of last year. Not only is it a huge step up from the 7800XT (Look at Rasterization Performance 1440p Ultra) , but it also has FSR4.

AM5 7500F is basically the same performance as the 5800X3D (Within 1%). and costs around €130. You can get a reasonable AM5 motherboard also for around €110-130. Let's just say that the AIO didn't have any AM5 adaptor so you had a buy a new CPU cooler. The best air cooler costs €40 (Thermalright Phantom Spirit).

The RAM is the kicker. In Oct, a 2x16GB DDR5-6000 CL30 kit would've cost €100. By Nov it was €150 and in Dec it was €300.

So the total cost of going AM5 would be €400-600.

His old motherboard, cooler, and RAM could be sold for around €100-220 depending on the RAM price at the time. Adding on the cost of €230 that you paid for the CPU, that effectively means you had a potential budget of €330-450. So the 'actual cost' of going AM5 at the time would have been €70-150.

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

Insanely impressive. You might be a wizard I think.

We bought the pc in last year in May. The only thing was that the rx 9070 xt was going for €900+ around that time. Even though the msrp was around €700 that is what made it hard.

He got the chance to pick up the motherboard for €65 brand new from a friend that bought it in a price error from a big website.

Unfortunately I don’t know how much the RAM cost him.

I hope this clarifies some things friend.

Again thanks for your thorough analysis!

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AzureBat@reddit

EU is a huge place so I wouldn't doubt if the 9070XT was really going at that price near you. In that case, the 7800XT is a reasonable pick. Definitely could have gone for AM5 but it's not a huge loss because it will meet your needs anyway.

Last time I went and bout the 14400F only to later find out that the 14600KF would have been a much better pick. However, I've yet to have any issues with my 14400F so something being better definitely does not mean that what you have now is bad. So go ahead and just enjoy your games!

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Aranxi_89@reddit

For me, futureproofing only works for certain components that age really well, like PSUs, if you intend to refresh a build in 5 years time, as most good ones last 10-12 years with ease. You can also reuse CPU coolers, particularly from brands that offer free mounting bracket upgrades, like Noctua does. Fans and a good quality case can also age really well.

But what I like to do is build the most high end PC I can within budget, with as much discounts as I can get, that does what I need, and just run that until it is well and truly outdated. That gets the most out of the hardware, and value is fully extracted. Then I reuse what I can, and buy new parts for the rest.

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MadOctopus6@reddit

Man who calls that system outdated, it is similar spec if not better to current gen consoles and as such it is within the range of specs that would be targeted by devs for current games and given the ai shitstorm, probably will be targeted for a while yet.

Anyone who says your pc is outdated because of ddr4 ram is just regurgitating ltt (or some other tech influencer) points without fully understanding shit.

If my steamdeck can run death stranding 2 at reasonable quality at 25-35 fos range there is no way 7800xt n your great cpu choice are “outdated”.

Also if it runs games you like at settings that make you happy even more reason to dismiss the naysayers who are probably just rich entitled pricks who don’t know any better and throw money at every new shiny thing that tech scammers recommend them to get.

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Petrovics1997@reddit

Is it technically outdated and/or on a dead platform? Yes. Is it also the best possible decision with today's RAM prices? Absolutely. Both things can be true at once, less than one year ago you would've been out of your mind to build a new PC on a dead platform, but with how expensive DDR5's gotten, you're plain better off getting the value of the 5700X now and paying a bit extra years from now when you need a new system again. I would've personally went with a 9000 series GPU from AMD or any Nvidia competitor (AI upscaling is a gamechanger), but otherwise you've absolutely made the right decision with the build 🫡

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FISTED_BY_CHRIST@reddit

Half my pc parts are from 2017, half are more recent. I can still play any game I want to play at decent settings without an issue. PC’s last wayyy longer than other tech.

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arty_987@reddit

Your system is great, still a good platform.

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Nick85er@reddit

Those are great specs.

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shaun________@reddit

The reason your PC is outdated is because it's very much not upgradable. You've maxed out pretty much what you'll be able to do on an AM4 board so when you find yourself unable to run stuff you'll essentially need a whole new system.

Ultimately if you paid a price you're happy with (which is entirely subjective) and it runs what you want it to run, at the speed and quality you want it to run then you didn't mess up.

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BoltSh0ck@reddit

i ran outdated hardware for nearly a decade and was fine. you might need to adjust settings for games down the road but you'll be gaming

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GoggleJ@reddit

Nah you’re good mate. It means the headroom to upgrade is limited long term (2-3 years down the line).

eg, you would need to upgrade to AM5 platform to run a 5090 or the ultra-Tier next generation cards.

Mid-high end GPUs like the 5070Ti, 9070XT and many of next year’s cards will still run great on your setup.

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FlameLegacy@reddit

You had to have gotten the parts used, especially the 5800x3d which is very overpriced. Am5 bundles, should cost just a tad more or the same as a 5800x3d combo. It doesn’t make sense to go am4 unless you already had the ram and mobo (he does 4x8, meaning he def had leftover parts he slapped into a build) and only upgrading your non 5000 cpu to a 5600 or better if you can find a deal.

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Alternative-Juice-15@reddit

Guy at work is just being a dick IMO. This is fine and if you are happy with it there’s no need to change anything.

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TrisIguess@reddit

Buddy Coming from someone whos into the whole Economy of those Parts; Think of new products having 200% of the Price for what they offer, Most parts age decent when just used for gaming

I personally just recently switched to ddr5 to make my old rig Future proof BUT this doesnt make ddr4 slow in any way. You could upgrade another 32gigs of ram and Not worry abt the whole ddr thing for another 5-8 years min just don’t try and fry ur machine on the ai hype Train lol

If it Runs smooth b happy, buy used if possible ;)

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YoSpiff@reddit

I have an AM4 PC that I built after AM5 was already out for a while. If you upgrade frequently, closer to the cutting edge might be nice to have. In my case, I don't upgrade. I usually build a new system every 5-8 years. By that time things have changed enough that upgrading doesn't make sense.

If it does all you need, and you don't want to constantly update with the latest and greatest, you are fine.

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SwordsAndElectrons@reddit

To quote a great poet:

My new computer's got the clocks, it rocks
But it was obsolete before I opened the box
You say you've had your desktop for over a week?
Throw that junk away, man, it's an antique
Your laptop is a month old? Well that's great
If you could use a nice, heavy paperweight

That was a parody of how hardware elitists were in 1999, and little has changed.

The fact is that every build is always "outdated" not very long after it is put together. It's a really dumb metric to go by. What is important is if you are happy with the performance you are getting.

What you have is a very fast AM4 system. If you aren't constantly demanding top-tier performance, then it may very well last you until AM5 is an outdated platform.

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commissar0617@reddit

It's on par with my desktop, maybe a bit lower end. It'll be good for a while.

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Key-Regular674@reddit

I have an Am4 build and I run all games in 4k at 120fps without issue as well as an ultra wide side monitor. Using a 5070 gpu.

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Andre2kReddit@reddit

Very good build. Especially with the economy right now.

I'm still rocking 3060 12gb + ryzen 5 5600 :))

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Fardn_n_shiddn@reddit

With those specs you could probably get by skipping the AM5 platform entirely and be fine until whatever AMD moves onto next.

There are a lot of people out there that think you need the newest thing available but don’t actually pay attention to performance.

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muftak3@reddit

Mines outdated. I built my pc in 2016. I play newer games on it just fine.

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absentlyric@reddit

The only time a PC becomes outdated is if it can't give you the fidelity you require in games.

My old PC was outdated because I could only game in 1080p in 60fps, but I gave it to my friend, who loves it still to this day, it's not outdated to him. He has no problems gaming in 1080p.

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Rakhsev@reddit

After reading all your beautiful comments I do feel like I should have told my colleague to F off.

Lol, yeah. That has no fucking clue what he's talking about, 100%. Just talking out of his ass.

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Hopeful_Tax274@reddit

Your question is not dumb. That other guy is dumb who said DDR4 sucks. Its more than enough

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jtrsniper690@reddit

As long as it's running windows 11. My PC has windows 10 and I'm not really enjoying being unable to play new games. Ddr4 is fine and am4 is fine. You quickly realize it's not about the best quality, it's the quality of people you can play with. Sounds like you have a good friend and that's better than am5.

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dungorthb@reddit

The person who helped you build this thing, knew their stuff.

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bombadaka@reddit

It's fine. Better than mine. I'm still playing new games on ultra settings and not upgrading anytime soon. Some people chase the newest thing and drop a couple grand on a new GPU every couple years.

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OttawaDog@reddit

A brand new PC is can be outdated in 6 months. Ignore the "outdated" talk.

You have a very decent PC and your friend helped you save money.

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shadowlid@reddit

Lol your friend just jelly as hell!

That's a solid ass PC.

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MSTRGRPHX@reddit

It's not the latest, but it's definitely a dope build! You will have a stellar experience in ~95%+ of your games.

I've been an PC/gaming enthusiast my whole life and I'm still on a 6900xt/ 11700kf/32Gb of 3600 at 1440p, which you should outperform. Pleased with almost everything I run in my several hundred deep catalogue.

And nowadays, as much as I strongly prefer native resolution sans TAA, frame gen and FSR/DLSS extend the life of your hawdware by years.

Of note, when most of what you want to play becomes ray tracing only/required, you'll likely want to upgrade. I myself am still coping telling myself that Nvidia will come to their senses and offer an x80 series card w/ 16Gb for a reasonable price (or AMD funnels proper resources over to the Radeon team to properly compete/Intel's GPUs reach parity). I say this as someone who could afford a 5090 if I thought it was worth the asking price.

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RaZoX144@reddit

Depending on price it could be a great deal, any AM5/DDR5 platform that would be a sufficient performance upgrade would cost substantially more, I made the upgrade a while back since it made sense as I was already on B450 on 3xxx, and I don't feel any need to upgrade anytime soon, maybe a new GPU when GTA 6 comes out, its plenty enough and if you got a good deal its even better, so you didn't really mess up - next upgrade could be very pricey though

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Om4r4n@reddit

Most PC components don’t take long to be classed as ‘outdated’. There are new CPU, GPU and motherboard generations (that often also require new memory types) released every few years.

I have a 7800X3D and a 4080 Super, but you could say that’s outdated as the AMD Ryzen 9 series and the nvidia 50 series is out now.

If your PC does what you want it to do right now it’s totally fine. You will be limited to how much you can upgrade it by until you bite the bullet and replace most of the parts (or just get a new PC) but until then you have nothing to worry about.

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amo-br@reddit

Considering that he gave you pretty capable AM4 parts and that, from the parts you bought, only the CPU is not possible to be used in an eventual AM5 upgrade, there's no reason whatsoever to be salty about the PC. It's a very capable 1440p in 2026, and with a GPU upgrade to a 9070XT or 5070 Ti, it's a near enthusiast-grade 1440p build.

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NoChickenman__@reddit

Your friend made the right call. 5700X3D + 7800 XT is still a beast. That coworker is the type to upgrade phones yearly because "outdated." AM4 isn't dead, just not newest.

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giveUcancer@reddit

Nope, he small brained

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Obzenium@reddit

A lot of the professional online PC builders are recommending going back so AM4 right now due to the insane price hikes in ram and storage we’ve seen over the last year.

They’re recommending it because they know damn well AM4 works great. Acting like AM5 is necessary is like saying you need a Lambo because the Mercedes you got isn’t nice enough.

Your system isn’t outdated until it doesn’t run games/programs according to your wants/needs. Your coworker should have kept their mouth shut or just told you congratulations.

You don’t need to cuss him out, just tell him it runs games great, you didn’t have the budget for AM5, pros are recommending moving back to AM4 until RAMpocalypse ends and that you’ll upgrade once it stops performing which likely wont’t be for many years. If you wanted to get his goat a bit more, explain that due to the much lower CAS latency that DDR4 RAM isn’t as slow compared to DDR5 as a lot of people think. Gen 5 vs Gen 4 PCIe slots for the gpu only offer a couple percentage points increase in performance. You can gain some serious advantage with the cpu but again it comes at significant cost

Your coworker sounds like an absolute wanker

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upsidedown_joker9430@reddit

Bro lists specs Better then my pc and is scared of it being outdated. Your pc is quite sufficient will last you easy 4-5 years even on this currently. After some time when you have budget and mood simply go ahead and upgrade specs one at a time easy. I built my pc 3 years ago and ypu could hardly game on it. No modern gaming at all over time now i have full spec pc even now i have room to upgrade that never stops. If other friend is saying it is outdated then simple ask him to buy yours at full price you paid.

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MrWiemann@reddit

Depending on what you pan on using it for of course, that pc will still last you years to come. No worries mate.

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Active_Literature539@reddit

Mess up? No. You built yourself a computer! The one thing you need to understand is this: All brand new, cutting edge, bleeding razors edge computer parts are outdated in six months.

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starvald_demelain@reddit

Your friend is right - AM5+DDR5 is very high price right now. You can easily last 5 years with this PC - more if we're being honest - since a lot of people will stay on similarly powerful systems during the current prices. Just enjoy your PC.

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oleggurshev@reddit

You have a good friend, he really hooked you up well.

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Eliastronaut@reddit

This is a sold rig. Beware of people who always want to best and the greatest, the price difference is not worth going the best and the greatest because it is overpriced for the reason that it is "the latest technology".

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MoistDragonfly5324@reddit

Your coworker saw you were happy about something and tried to ruin it for you.

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Atrium41@reddit

It's not outdated if it can play current games.

You are fine, homie.

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pimpguice@reddit

Don't trip on it, that build will last you some years, I upgraded my am4 build to a 5700x3d and a 7900xt. I'm very happy with it because it plays everything at ultra settings for 1440p

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ConsistencyWelder@reddit

Your buddy did you a real solid. He gave you half of the components and steered you in the right direction to get you a PC with a very high power/price ratio. AM5 and DDR5 are super overpriced right now, even DDR4 is overpriced, so giving you 32GB of fast DDR4 is a great gift.

The GPU is really good too, 16GB VRAM and a good allrounder.

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PhotoProxima@reddit

I have that same combo and it slams. Don't second guess. That's an excellent rig.

There is no reason to have gear that was released to market ten minutes ago as is common in this sub.

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dorting@reddit

The point is, how much did you pay? How is the market? It's not the latest hardware around, but this is a pretty solid PC. So have fun with your new PC

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SoVerySick314159@reddit

It's a bad time to be buying the latest and greatest, the prices are insane. INSANE. People are hanging onto their systems longer than at any point since the Commodore-64 days. I've been running an AM4 system since 2018 and intend to hang onto it for a couple more years at least. I upgraded to a 5700x CPU and 6700xt about 18 months back - not a killer system, but it plays everything I want at 1080p.

A lot of folks are doing without the latest hardware these days, but we're fortunate in that the old stuff still seems to handle games pretty well. If you're happy gaming with it, that's all that matters.

Enjoy your new computer!

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AnEepyLeaf@reddit

It's older hardware but well above the mean gaming pc in raw compute

If it runs what you want it to well than you don't really need to worry about it

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TeeJee48@reddit

Technically yes it is "outdated".

However it is an expertly chosen specification for gaming, will play anything you throw at it without difficulty, and will have no compatibility issues.

DDR5 is completely unnecessary for games, you have a CPU that will breeze through them, and you can support the latest GPU's.

GPU's will be your bottleneck.

That extra few hundred dollars for the "latest" would have seen such tiny performance games you wouldn't be able to notice.

That friend who built it knows what he's doing. The other one just thinks shiny equals good.

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No_Independence_6801@reddit

I recently built a PC very similar to yours, I saw it as a cost effective upgrade to what I already had. It’s capable of running most things comfortably and I use it for streaming. Is it a generation behind? Yes. Does it keep up with people who have more modern computers? Also yes.

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Scoo_By@reddit

This will last you another 5 years at the very least. After ram prices stabilize or if ddr6 is released, you can do a solid upgrade later.

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PussyPusLicker@reddit

Yes, it's terribly outdated.

Send to me for propper dispose.

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

Underrated comment.

Send your adres maybe I know a man who wears red clothes and makes reindeer do hard work for him.

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Diekjung@reddit

That PC isn’t outdated it just isn’t current edge. This a great system for most games and you will have a lot of fun with it.

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SirThunderDump@reddit

This PC is great for 99% of things you’ll do with it and will last a good while. It’s a couple generations old, but plenty powerful if you’re running lower settings on newer games at 1440, or running on a 1080p monitor.

B-die is great btw. Just means it’s the higher-tier binned RAM from the manufacturers, and usually has slightly better timings than other RAM. Tends to mean that games stutter a bit less.

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

Thanks for explaining B-die to me brother!

My friend said he could tune the RAM to make my pc perform better as well. This explains a lot.

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ddwdk@reddit

He's doing you a solid by introducing you to well balanced and budget efficient builds. And didn't screw you on taking any money off of you.

It's easy to suggest top of the line and newest everything but not every gamer needs that. And doing so would probably scare many new to be pc gamers away based on how expensive things are.

Coming up a budget efficient build that performs well take times and he puts efforts into it. I would view him as a true friend who wouldn't mind taking the heat from other's unwarranted criticism.

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

Another beautiful comment that made me smile.

I appreciate to positive feedback a lot from everyone and I feel bad because I can’t reply to every comment.

Thank you for taking your time to write this friend!

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kmkm2op@reddit

Learn to use optiscaler to inject fsr4 int8 if you need even better performance through ml upscaling. There are clients to simplify this process but I personally don't have experience with them.

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M4K1M4@reddit

I have the same build. Except the 7800 XT I have a RTX 3070.

I play on 1080p and hit mostly 100 fps easily at high-ultra. I am sure this will last me till 2030 very easily and possibly even more. I built it originally in 2020 and upgraded 2 things, the GPU from 2060 super to 3070 in 2023 and the CPU from 3600 > 5700X3D in 2024.

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Tonkarz@reddit

Every PC part is outdated pretty much as soon as the first unit is sold.

This is a very strong PC. It’ll crush any game you throw at it for years to come.

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Culyar0092@reddit

Future proofing and upgrading is mostly a scam. Every time I think of upgrading, i just end up getting a new pc. Theres always something that holds something back or something requires a whope new motherboard... etc

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SmallUse2199@reddit

Brother AM4 is good for AT LEAST 3-4 more years... Your friend is right... You go AM5 when the right time comes or AM6, whatever... I went AM5 but I had a lot of cash disposable and while prices were still normal. Enjoy your rig brother.

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Iambeejsmit@reddit

I have an am4 build with a 5700x3d. Its a great pc. You just can't upgrade your cpu without upgrading your ram cpu and mobo, and that is half the pc. You didn't mess up. Your 5700x3d is competitive or even more performant that many am5 CPUs.

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the_excalibruh@reddit

If it plays the games you want at the performance you want it’s not outdated.

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melnificent@reddit

I'm running a i7-12700/3080 combo.... it runs everything I throw at it fine. It's a few years old now, but until I can't play games I want on it it's not outdated to me. Same with yours, DDR4 is slightly older, but my eldest games on an DDR3 machine and it runs everything she wants without issue.

These people see the latest vid on some brand new tech and think that anything other than the bleeding edge of new releases are ancient and worthless. Just ignore them and enjoy your gaming rig.

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t90fan@reddit

yep, 11700K/4070Ti combo for me

Runs everything I throw at it at 4k./60/high, not planning on upgrading until AM6 era

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evolveandprosper@reddit

Your spec is really good for gaming. It isn't "state of the art" but you have saved a huge amount by getting slightly older hardware. Many, many gamers would LOVE to have a system with your specs.

Every PC component is rapidly "outdated" by a later generation of hardware. This is designed to keep the fashion victims in a perpetual state of FOMO, always buying the latest and greatest stuff to maintain bragging rights. I suspect your work colleague is either one of these OR some armchair "expert" who doesn't actually have a well specified rig. However, the performance increase provided by the next generation is often only a few percent over the previous. There are many millions of people happily using hardware that isn't the latest. In fact, I have ALWAYS deliberately stayed behind the "bleeding edge" of PC tech in order to save considerable amounts of money, and to avoid the problems that often appear when new hardware is released (think burning intel 13th and 14th gen cpus, burning motherboards/cpus with AMD 9800X3D cpus and the ongoing burning GPU connector issues etc).

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Ok-Tomorrow2865@reddit

I'm just sad for your friend. He did best to help you and you are questioning of how good his help was, it's really disgusting to focus on what your colleague from work said instead of what - as you say - really close friend did and said. Hope he will find more grateful friends in future...

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CaesarsArmpits@reddit

If the games you play on it are running fine then there is no need for upgrades. Rtx 5090s are cool and all but I can imagine 80% of the people who play on PCs have >8 year old components running fine.

I have a 3070ti 8gb,not exactly future proof but there is zero need to upgrade anything because everything I play runs at 144hz.

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conzyre@reddit

The extra cost would only be worth it if you are looking to upgrade yourself. Otherwise call your friend again when your 1% lows are terrible in games. Also no offense but if you aren’t putting the games you play, refresh rate of your monitor, monitor resolution, and desired frame rate, I think you won’t be super picky with game performance

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MiaThePotat@reddit

A 2000's ferrari is technically outdated.

Yet you will still pick it as the favourite in a race against a 2026 kia picanto.

Your machine does use older architecture and is a few years out of date, but it's a nearly top of the line build for the time.

Treat it well and it will last you a good few years.

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zDexterity@reddit

AM4 w 5700x3d is that good that u can skip AM6, also even if u got "outdated" pieces, as long as it runs well you are good to go.

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Rocketlauncherboy@reddit

You'll be fine outside ue5 games. Most will still be playable you'll just not have to rely on fsr and if the devs did their best optimizing for that

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Educational-Gur-2824@reddit

Yes the parts are not the newest.
But it's solid build.
It will serve you well in 1440p/high.
I'd feel just fine running this for the forseable future.

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yIdontunderstand@reddit

Every pc is outdated the minute it's built...

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Old_wood_Inspired@reddit

If it runs the games you want it could be a potato and it wouldn't make a difference.

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th3gw4@reddit

Your friend was pragmatic and the guy at work chases rainbows

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MinervaMedica000@reddit

Let me put it to you this way. I spent some money ten plus years ago on a PC that was outdated then and since then I've replaced a GPU and a power supply. Still gaming and having a blast.

There will always be a better machine it happens every day what matter is does it work for you?

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Niiphox@reddit

Technically yes it is outdated. But its still a great pc that will last for years, that being said, you will probably be able to skip the AM5 platform entirely and move to AM6 when it comes out.

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Black_dubbing@reddit

Your friend is outdated! xD Joking aside, they aren't the latest generation components with all the latest bells and whistles but it is a powerful machine and will run games just fine. And sure, am5 is good if you're planning to upgrade in the near future. But by the time you upgrade, am6 could already be out and who knows what perfomance improvements new cpus will bring. As long as your pc runs what you need. It's not outdated.

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PowerfulAgent9939@reddit

Can you return it and build an AM5?

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Compilingthings@reddit

It’s not outdated, your friend watches too much marketing

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calvinkulitalt@reddit

no you didn't

I still use an 1800x pc with only a recent gpu change (rx480 to rx6600xt)

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toltottdagado@reddit

Had you gone AM5 with lets say, a 7600x, you would have paid much more for pretty much the same, or a few percent better performance, only for the promise of being able to upgrade your cpu once you are unhappy with the performance, which might take 5-7-10 (depends) years, at which point, if you are anticipating a complete pc upgrade and you are putting away some money, it wont financially hurt as much as if you would have spent 3-400 more right now.

The pc your friend put together for you is plenty good still, and you saved money on it. You have a good friend.

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Dxniex23@reddit

It's not a high end pc but I wouldnt say outdated. Yes, DDR4 and AM4 is no longer the newest platform but as I understand it, you already had motherboard, ram and other things and didnt need to buy them. I wouldnt go the AM4 route if I had to buy the full build but if you already have half of it lying around and can save a good amount of money, why not? Even so, the pc is by no means weak and the difference between AM4 and AM5 might not even be noticeable to you depending on your use case.

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brabarusmark@reddit

Outdated, yes. Mess up, no.

I built my AM4 PC right when DDR5 and AM5 was being announced. Best decision because I chase value above getting the cutting edge. To add more to this, my GPU is a generation older than yours (6700XT) and runs everything I need at the settings I want. The only upgrade I see myself making is getting a 9070 XT when that card's next iteration shows up.

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VarmintTheCritter@reddit

I would call this a fantastic build and enjoy it. The 5700X3D is a great CPU full stop, the 7800XT has a generous pool of VRAM, and 3200 CL14 B-die is some of the most solid DDR4 RAM that exists. Your colleague has confused "newer" with "automatically better" in this case.

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Sideos385@reddit

PC is fine, but I am going to point something funny out. You friend mention b-die memory and given the configuration and specs is kinda funny to me.

The ram, which is totally fine as is, should be dual channel for one, but given the current market getting 32gb I’m guessing this was a lot more cost effective.

B-die is referring to Samsung nand chips and they are known for being able to handle higher voltages and remain stable. This is only useful for overclocking. And what’s funny about that is 1) the memory specs are not particularly good (they are fine for gaming) in the terms of top of line for overclocking. 2) you won’t be overclocking with 4 sticks of ram on AM4 haha.

Just to be clear, the system is great. But noting the b-die is like saying Ferrari made the fuel line in your Camry :)

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Rainbows4Blood@reddit

The main drawback here is that the next time you need to upgrade you will have to purchase a new motherboard, RAM and CPU again. Because you are already close to the top of AM4.

Whereas if you had bought AM5, you could just upgrade the CPU alone because new AM5 chips are still coming out for at least a few years.

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Funny-Carob-4572@reddit

Am5 would have cost more.

GPU will last a few more years, ram is fine and the CPU is as well.

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Sea-Cantaloupe-9386@reddit

The guy at work is ridiculous...

You rocked up with a 6 year old Ferrari your friend mostly gifted to you, they are saying you should have bought the new one as the 0-60 is 0.5s faster.

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PolyamorousPilot@reddit

Nah man you're solid. I'm helping my friend build a PC right now and we're actively choosing AM4, it's much cheaper (like holy fuck half the price) and got second hand RAM and SSD which allowed him to put more money into the GPU and get a 9070XT.

I also just upgraded to a 9070XT and am still on AM4 and I'm going to try to hold out for AM6. I actually asked about it here 2 weeks ago and everyone was super helpful.

A lot of people have mentioned what you do with it is crucial. If you're not trying to play the latest games at the highest specs or be a dick to your colleague who's just gotten into gaming (your co-worker is an ass), you don't need some beast of a machine.

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oblivion2g@reddit

Dude your build is really good and it will carry you for years. Be happy about it.

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Conscious-Salt-1523@reddit

Its like buying that 2022 model brand new car...

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jhaluska@reddit

PCs no longer instantly become obsolete as the newer systems aren't massive leaps forward.

It's like saying a 4 year old car that's model that is discontinued is outdated, when you're driving around fine in it.

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Interesting-Big1980@reddit

There is no such thing as truly outdated tech, only it not being preformative enough for your tasks eventually. The pc you built is probably top of the line in the last gen. And I really wouldn't worry too much about your ram being ddr4 instead of ddr5 or that your cpu is from previous socket.

A lot of games today are: 1. Built to support systems like yours.

Can't even utilize newer technology to its maximum. So all those extra numbers might even stay on the paper and not be reflected in games.
If your pc runs the things YOU need then it's not outdated.

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gamer15807@reddit

bro has the same specs as mine and calls it "outdated". Yes, it might be outdated, but a very solid specs of a gaming PC that'll last you a few years with no concern to perfẻomance (if you don't game at 4K bruh).

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finisimo13@reddit

That guy at work didn't bother to hear what am4 parts you have. He heard "am4" and went to say ignorance.

Your cpu is doing really well and and the gpu is sufficient. You can hold the cpu for much longer and upgrade ur gpu instead tbh

I have my 5700x3d paired with a 5080 and im just straight up crushing everything ultra at 4k 60fps and for 2k I get 120+fps

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

This made me laugh out loud. That is exactly how it went and I don’t know why you predicted it so well but props to you.

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Aranxi_89@reddit

Because most people who have only dabbled in tech but have a loud mouth and strong opinions would react that way to this rig.

You got a sweet deal. Also note that the X3D is fucking magic for certain applications. The amount of extra L3 cache you have is fucking ridiculous for a CPU of that power. 96mb of L3 cache is exactly the same as what's on the 9800X3D... and that can make a huge difference in some productivity tasks and certain games. The 5700X3D is basically a lower grade 5800X3D.

The 7800XT is perfectly fine, and I rather use that and just avoid having to deal with the unreliable 12vhpwr cable that newer GPUs use.

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finisimo13@reddit

I knew because if you sat me down and told me ur specs, I would have listened and say you are doing pretty alright and It can last you until AM6 arrives or a little bit after

Your coworker really dosent know his parts if he is overlooking the final hurrah of AM4 CPUs have to offer.

At most the 5800x3d is outdone by 7600x3d by at most 15 percent, imagine with a 5700x3d thats 10 percent under the 5800x3d.

Both of us with 5700x3d, if we are looking to upgrade significantly, we would be looking at 9800x3d as the next step... maybe imo, because its the better price to performance at the moment. Especially with microcenter bundles helping a lot with building for AM5

At 4k the 5700x3d has similar or lower base avg fps compared to the 9800x3d, but really its the gpu that matters the most in 4k. At 4k the cpu will be playing the role of increasing the 1 percent lows, which gives your fps a smoother experience and less stuttering. But if you play at 1080p or 1440p, you will see a much bigger increase in base fps if you did the cpu jump to AM5 if thats your preference

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T2_daBest@reddit

Yeah it's the of those things where they are both kinda true. Outdated yes, ddr4 is old gen. Powerful mid/high range PC, yes. You can still upgrade GPU which does most heavy lifting in modern games and even though CPU is last gen it's the best of the last gen. There are some trade off between newer GPU like 9060xt while the 9070xt is definitely the better card so you're in between.

Imo if it were me I would of saved for a 9070xt instead for the fact a lot of the build was "put together for you". The PC was definitely his old build that he sold the CPU and GPU to put towards his new build. For getting everything other than the CPU and GPU am4 is still strong and can run well especially with that CPU that you purchased. The GPU is still great also. It misses out on some of the newer features but should run any game that's optimized to run good atleast.

Your fine, enjoy your PC and welcome to the land of the free

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sa547ph@reddit

did I mess up?

No.

But then at work I mentioned my build and this guy started telling me it’s “outdated” because it’s AM4 and DDR4. He was like I should’ve gone AM5 + DDR5 and that I kinda got put on a dead platform.

Don't let him put you down, he's trying to cause you FOMO. I own the same processor and type of memory you have, it still kicks ass, and considering the performance this combo will still be viable for several years until you get to another platform.

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wolfiasty@reddit

It is outdated.

No, you didn't mess up. It will work well for years to come.

Enjoy your PC mate and don't worry. I'm on am4 (5700x) and DDR4 (32GB) and don't plan to change it anytime soon. Only thing I will think about is getting newer GPU, but not now. All the games I play work smoothly on my "outdated" PC.

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globaldu@reddit

Your friend did you a solid. That's a decent PC and will do everything you want it to do, and will continue to.

The guy at work is right that it's not top tier but so what? Who the fuck asked him anyway? "Yeah but it's not a Bugatti" is a wanky thing to say.

I'd ask him what PC he has, wait a second or two, then just walk off.

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Novel-Knee13@reddit

Your coworker is just being a snob about AM4. In today’s climate, it’s a perfectly viable option. Your PC is more than fine.

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slimejumper@reddit

AM4 is a great budget option these days. it’s been a “dead” platform for about 6 years and AMD keeps releasing cpus for it somehow. so i say gimme that dead AM4!

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_BallsDeep69_@reddit

I’ve built 3 AM4 builds this past year and will probably run games on those PCs for the next 5-10 years. Just because someone is spending money for the latest and greatest, doesn’t mean you’re on a dead platform. They’re just being dicks.

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PixelPete27@reddit

Don't listen to the 'outdated' comment. Something isn't outdated until it fails to run what you need it to, and that thing is great and absolutely more than capable of running most anything.

That 5700x3d out performs the budget AM5 chips. And your buddy is right, it would've cost you several hundred more euros for AM5.

With the price of RAM these days, people are STILL building AM4 platforms new just to use DDR4 ram because it's cheaper and doesn't impact performance enough to warrant the price tag sometimes

That thing will last you several years of gaming. Don't listen to the noise.

That rig will last you until DDR6 and AM6 are released, you can skip AM5 all together.

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Aranxi_89@reddit

That's what I intend to do!

I also hope to be able to skip that PCI-e 12vhpwr nonsense. Don't need my house burning down...

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PixelPete27@reddit

Haha - I don't think you're going to skip that, I think they're sticking with it for a while.

Unless you buy a 9070XT, most of those are running 3x 8-pin connectors.

The melting connectors isn't that common, and if you get that thing in properly, the chance is approaching zero.

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

Thank you for explaining so well.

I will certainly hold onto it for as long as I can.

Although I was thinking that I missed out on a great opportunity to jump into am5 before the RAM prices went insane. But comments like these make me feel at ease again.

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poondick@reddit

I had basically the same specs as you before I upgraded to AM5, and the experience with my new build isn’t all that substantial tbh. If I was you I’d hold off on upgrading until AM6. My only gripe was that FSR 3 sucks. Don’t feel that you’re lagging behind just because you’re on a previous generation. The 5700x3D and 7800XT are both beasts.

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motocykal@reddit

In the current climate, what you have is definitely good. Yes, you can get something better but it'll cost way more.

Why other people claim it's "outdated" is because the AM4 platform has been superseded by AM5. It means upgrading parts in future will be limited.

At the end of the day, it depends on what sort of user you are. The hardcore PC enthusiasts who change parts every year will not be happy with it.

For the average user who only considers upgrading when things fail or something is lacking, it's totally fine.

I built myself an AM4 gaming machine a few years ago and it's still going on strong.

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Electrical_Panda_326@reddit

It's a very well balanced build and should be sufficient for 90% of games easily. The question is if you bought it before DDR5 ram prices hike or not? If before, then you would be able to buy something more future proof on AM5. If you bought it after the price hike, then your configuration might be the best option available.

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Aranxi_89@reddit

If I was building a PC for a friend now, I'd do something similar and I'd buy as much of it as I can 2nd hand.

I don't know if you know this, but the market for PC parts is fucked right now. Everything is either unavailable or so expensive you might as well just buy a console or Steamdeck.

So yeah, you lucked out. That's a great rig for someone starting out, and it is very well parted out. Everything makes sense for your use case.

I'd maybe add like an 8TB HDD for storing big files that aren't used too often, like mp3 files or movies/recordings. You want to avoid overloading the NVMe drive, as flash storage don't work well if you fill it to the max (it needs some space to do stuff like wear levelling). Unfortunately, now isn't a great time to buy a ton of new SSDs.

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IrrelevantTale@reddit

Its outdated but thats still a really badass PC plenty powerful. You would have to have like a 5090 in order to get a bottleneck from you 5700x3d.

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smackythefrog@reddit

But then at work I mentioned my build and this guy started telling me it’s “outdated” because it’s AM4 and DDR4.

It's the previous generation, that's true. The gains from that gen to this gen can be big but still not that big of a deal. You may have to upgrade a year or two earlier in the future. Maybe.

He was like I should’ve gone AM5 + DDR5 and that I kinda got put on a dead platform.

Not "dead", but an "older" one. AM5 is more expensive

going AM5 would’ve cost like €300–€400 more here (CPU + DDR5 + B650 board), and he didn’t think it was worth it for the performance difference at the time.

There it is. Your friend is correct and he made a budget-conscious decision for you at a time when all components have seen a drastic price increase in the last 9 months.

You have a good friend. He did all the work for you that would've cost you $200+ to have someone else just build a PC for you.

Guy at work is technically correct but is also a weiner for sitting there and pointing out flaws in the build.

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Cellist_Acceptable@reddit

Im also on a ddr4 platform playing at 1080p. It plays new games just fine. Ddr5 is just a faster ram speed. That shouldn't be something to be concerned about either. The main components for gaming is the gpu and cpu. Ddr6 should be coming out in a few years anyway. You have a great friend and your co worker is salty af.

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SuedeVinyl@reddit

It's not that outdated. The cost/performance ratio of jumping to the latest gen (Zen 5, RDNA 4) from your build is not worth it. I doubt you'll even notice the increase in FPS.

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PrettyQuick@reddit

I have almost the same setup, 7800XT/5800x3d.

It will probably be fast enough to completely skip AM5 all together.

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joellapit@reddit

dude if you tried to buy 32 gb of DDR5 RAM right now it would cost you $400+ right now, then you'd have to buy another mobo, cpu, etc...

DDR5 vs DDR4 ram will really only give you a 7-10%, probably even less if its a gpu bound game (which 99% will be).

You have a great PC and your friend hooked you up hard core. like sure your specs could be better - but couldn't everyones? unless you're rocking top of the line. if it plays the games you want you're good.

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pfk505@reddit

Totally solid midrange build. Your friend did gud.

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Lone_Rider69@reddit

Kindly tell your coworker to stfu.

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Razgriz01@reddit

It'll work fine for probably 3-4 years, maybe with a GPU upgrade somewhere in that time frame depending on the kind of games you play.

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Thinkerofthings2@reddit

The ram is unironically the least controversial part of your build. I rock ddr4 with a 4090, oled monitors, idk other expensive stuff because who tf is paying for ddr5 at high prices for no reason. My system is still better than most people and most importantly it does what I want it to do.

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aCuria@reddit

Bro you have a really good friend.

It’s technically outdated yes, but if you want better you need to spend a fortune

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gxvfnk@reddit

Advice 2 is terrible honestly, we don't know which games they will play. Of course the 5700x3d will suffice in most cases, but there are important exceptions, and spending 1.2k+ on a gpu would be like option 7 if anything

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aCuria@reddit

If the objective is maximum fps across a range of AAA titles then putting as much money as possible on a gpu like the 5080 is the way to do it

If it’s option 7, then do you have 6 better ways to increase fps?

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

You are completely right. He is one of my closest friends and we have been through a lot.

And ofcourse I’m glad I don’t have to spend a fortune on a rtx 5090 haha.

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aCuria@reddit

Even if you buy the latest and greatest 9950x3d2 (which just released last week) today it’s already “outdated” in Q4 2026 when the zen 6 drops in Q4 2026 or Q1 2027

Being on AM5 matters for the guy who is upgrading his CPU every year. Will you buy zen5 today and upgrade to zen6 in Q4 2026?

Based on your profile you went for 7800XT and not RTX5090. You are not the guy who upgrades his CPU every year

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

You’re right I’m not planning on upgrading any time soon!

That puts everything into perspective I guess.

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maieventer@reddit

You have built it now enjoy it. Do not overthink about it. You will enjoy it for a long time.

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Puzzleheaded-West159@reddit

I wouldn't say it is outdated.
You can only still wait 3 years and upgrade to DDR6 when it comes out

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Mabiki_1975@reddit

The build is solid. Anyone who says it's outdated is putting a weird standard to it. Yes, there is a newer platform, but this one will last for a long time, maybe even long even for the economy to stabilize from the ongoing disaster that is only going to get worse.

Sure, you could have an even newer and nicer machine, but only for a lot more money, and it doesn't sound like you need it. We're talking about the difference between a normal everyday driver car versus a high end sports car. Do you need a high-end sports car? If not, you're fine. Your co-worker and 90 percent of the people online who belittle perfectly fine pc builds are looking through an elitist lens.

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slavicslothe@reddit

You have a good x3d chip. That will last at least 5 years.

Upgrading the cpu would involve an mb swap but its not really that hard.

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yahyahyehcocobungo@reddit

It’s plenty good enough. Your friend is right, ddr5 wasn’t worth it.

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reiichiroh@reddit

Unless money is no object, anything you build/get/buy is "outdated" immediately. Even those rich mofos only have a couple months at most in a normal situation that isn't our current RAMmageddon nightmare reality pausing tech progress on most things.

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Tuiika@reddit

Unless you run top notch flagship components it will be "outdated".

If the PC runs whatever you are aiming for as a charm is it really outdated?

This is what I love about computers, you can design/build them to fit your needs.

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IlluminaViam@reddit

It IS already outdated. But here's the thing. So many other factors comes into play. Like what you use it for, does it work OK, price to performance ratio, how much your put in after being subsidised by your friend, etc.

I'm also running a AM4 build, with a 5700x, rtx 3060 12gb, 32gb 3200mhz ram, b450i mobo. It's outdated, but does what it needs to do, and is a solid budget gaming rig, if the price is right, which in your case with your build, fits.

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PigSlam@reddit

It's all a generation old, but solid. It's a fairly common thing to build at the moment due to component prices in general. There's nothing to be ashamed of with that build.

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Samoflan@reddit

I have a similar build. This will handle all your gaming needs just fine. I really only see improvements in efficiency and less in performance for future generations. I believe the AM4 platform still has plenty of life left in it.

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SyrusDeathHunter345@reddit

Your specs are fine but just for reference the only issue I would personally have if I owned this would be the ram. While it sucks that ram is expensive 4 sticks isnt as strong as 2 of the same size. Doesnt mean they dint work just means its slower then 2 sticks. Still perfectly fine

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TDYDave2@reddit

That system is the PC equivalent to a classic car.
Yes, it is technically behind (outdated) compared to a 2026 model, but still a sweet ride.

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Dustyyyyx@reddit

I don't think your friend tried to fuck you over or did a terrible job, your specs are fine and he explained the cost difference for you

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

You’re right. I only had to pay for half the pc so I guess it’s fair.

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kind_bros_hate_nazis@reddit

It's well past fair, it's fucking generous as hell. That guy at work is either being a dick or ignoring the legitimate cost savings for still very good performance. Send your bro a pizza and enjoy some games

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InvaderJ@reddit

“Happy to see so many people remind me to stop being shitty”

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

Think I will do that my friend.

Happy to see so many people remind me for this!

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Ryan32501@reddit

I have the same exact setup. Get 100+ FPS on everygame I play at 1440p. Not always maximum settings of course. UE5 games have to lower graphical setting or use FSR

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BoomGoesTheFirework_@reddit

It's last gen but by no means outdated. 'Round here outdated is a 1080 with a 3700X. Even that can run some games just fine. I upgraded from an AM4 build because I'm stupid. I'm currently playing Mewgenics on a 9950x3d 5090 build (I play other games, but right now I'm so overkill for that particular task all I can do is laugh).

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Tiny-Round9920@reddit

DDR4 is cheaper, due to it being older. It's a good system but has no upgrade path. You will have to buy a new system when it gets bad. However, 7800XT is a great card,32GB is plenty, 1TB is a good amount of storage. 5700X3D is an average cpu. I think they still plan on releasing new AM4 CPUs, so you might be able to get a better one later.

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KafeinFaita@reddit

With the prices right now going for DDR5 platforms is actually the mistake, not the other way around.

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Edwardteech@reddit

Its last gen in every respective.

Your friend did you a huge favor. That much ddr5 ram alone goes for 600 bucks rn.

He made you a perfectly cromulent computer. That meets your needs and will serve you well for years.

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AThunderousCat@reddit

People like the guy putting down your build is the reason why landfills get filled with e waste.

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ALargeWatermelon@reddit

I guess you could say technically true, but in reality with what's going on with AI snagging up PC components. AM4 (the platform 5700x3d is on) is actually being brought back into production. You've done what everyone is having to do just now and build a system that support DDR4. Unless you're planning on getting a $2000 4090 within the next couple years, that'd give you a massive bottleneck, you're perfectly fine. 5700x3d and 7800xt is a well balanced system that'll handle AAA games for a while yet. I just built a system with a 6700 xt, quite a bit less powerful thank your system, and it's been an absolute beast at 1440p.

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Forsoul@reddit

Hey OP, we have almost the exact same specs! My PC is probably 5 years old, but it plays every game I need and I dont see myself replacing it anytime soon. You've got a great friend!

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e2-woah@reddit

Play on it for years. If you decide you want a wider view 8k or something then go ahead and spend $5k on a newer build.

I play dead by deadlight, fallout 4, Witcher 3, dark souls, and a bunch of indies on a 9700i7 and a gtx 970. Out of date but I have fun playing my games.

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Blue-150@reddit

Its not "modern" hardware but can defintely deliver. Building today id recommend am5 as well, but im running am4 RN and plan to stick with it until am6. Am4 is cheaper and that build will carry you for years.

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ElSelcho_@reddit

Don't worry about it, mate. The moment you exit the store your rig is outdaz, because tomorrow there is a better deal. If you wait for the perfect moment you will never get anything. Enjoy your rig, it's pretty decent and will serve you well for years to come.

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Guilty-View-6506@reddit

No. It's fine. Wasting money on the top stuff when you are new is just dumb.

Save money. Learn to build. Upgrade later. Grow into the hobby. There is always more money you can spend for better. I'm sure your coworker doesn't know all the details about the situation so their opinions don't matter

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hammondator@reddit

This is my exact gpu/cpu combo and I built it around the same time as you. It just made the most sense for me and how much i wanted to spend. The thing does everything I need it to at 1440 144hz. There’s nothing outdated about the performance. Some people can get elitist about pc components. “Either you have the newest and greatest or it’s trash.”

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NecessaryValue9095@reddit

I just built an AM4 desktop for my own rig. All used parts (except AIO and case) and I couldn’t be happier! I can play all my usual games at a decent frame rate. I can edit my 6k raw video files without any issues.

You’re basically maxed out for CPU, a Ryzen 9 will probably only give marginal gains for gaming. However, you could always upgrade your GPU. For gaming especially, running PCIE 5.0 cards in a 4.0 slot will have a very marginal performance loss. So once you hit a bottle neck for a newer title, upgrade the GPU.

The PC building community will always be a pissing contest. At the end of the day, if you’re happy with your build, who cares! Enjoy it!

Congrats on the build btw!

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ekristoffe@reddit

Man your pc have nothing to blush … seriously I have a 5600x and a rtx3070ti. Not the latest but can still play anything …

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Canadian_Border_Czar@reddit

Fuck that guy. AM4 is perfectly viable with today's prices.

I bought a 9950X3D last summer. Guess what, it's now outdated by the 9950X3D2. Who cares?

If it does what you want then youre fine.

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ButchLord@reddit

He’s a good friend , he helped you build a good gaming pc that will last for years. Everyone who says outdated ask them what they paid, you surely got great performance for what you have paid. Don’t worry you have a great pc enjoy!

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

You’re right.

Thanks man!

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donut4ever21@reddit

Mine is:
Ryzen 7 5800xt
Rx 9070xt
32GB DDR4 3200 RAM
Corsair 750 watts PSU
GIGABYTE B550M
And I'm very much ok with it and will keep it for a very long to come.

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

Nice! Thanks friend.

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Puzzleheaded_Week282@reddit

no bro, am4 is still fine today

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

Thanks!

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RedAssassino@reddit

Well it’s still good for 3-4 yrs so you have ample of time to upgrade to a latest model or you could go for a cheaper older AM5 board after that pc runs its course.

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Thevintageandvanity@reddit

People are gonna take you you're outdated no matter what, it seems. This is more than fine.

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Darth_Rayzor@reddit

I have pretty much the same PC except my GPU is a 6800xt. I game at 1440p no problem. And I play a lot of different games. Just dont use ray tracing and FSR when needed

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katzengoldgott@reddit

Anyone who complains about your hardware being outdated despite running everything you are throwing at it perfectly owes you 1000 €.

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SirAuRyan@reddit

That’s an epic build without completely breaking the bank right now. Ddr5 ram prices are outrageous so it’s the best of the ddr4 era. If someone told me they wanted a pc but couldn’t shell out 16k plus this is what I’d build.

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Honor_Imperious@reddit

You know what, as someone who consistently chases the bleeding edge of technology, I see nothing wrong with your build. I used to be the guy you are describing, but no more.

You buy what you can afford to start, the upgrades come over time. You're not locked into anything yet - you can always upgrade your MB, RAM, and CPU as you can afford to. Don't let jerks like me ruin your fun, the only important thing is whether or not that PC fulfills YOUR needs, not anybody else's.

No shame, we all started somewhere.

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

Thanks brother!

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Natedawg120@reddit

That is a quality 1080 gaming build. Everything is so expensive now performance/cost is more important that latest and greatest unless there is a significant enough advantage to justify it. EX: Ray tracing.

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Marklar47777@reddit

I have a DDR3 system still going from ~2012, a DDR4 system from 2019 and a DDR5 system built last year. There are very few cases where I notice the difference between them.

Your friend seems awesome, did you a favor, and the specs suit your needs.

Worst case? Turn this into a home server in a few years when you want to upgrade to DDR5/6.

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blazerMFT@reddit

Let's see now here, you got a B550 motherboard, 32GB DDR4 RAM, PSU and peripherals for free from a friend, then you let some colleagues talk you into believing you messed up?

You didn't "mess up by going AM4 in 2026" because you were gifted half the components to even have a PC, and the advice he gave you on the rest of the components were solid.

If I were in your place the attitude would be: "Now that I have saved money on the rest of the parts (especially RAM) I'll just concentrate on making sure I make the best AM4 PC based on what I can afford.".

Sorry, this ticks me off a bit.

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

Hi friend, If you don’t mind I will copy and paste one of my previous replies:

“I’m sorry if I came off as ungrateful. But I was afraid of having to upgrade in 1-2 years.

My thinking was maybe if I spend a little more money now then I could upgrade without my current parts losing most of their value.

I have a very good relationship with my friend and he will actually be very happy if I tell him I upgraded (he will have to build it anyway😅).

He is actually the one that recommended me to buy a 9800x3d if I’m feeling rich one day.

Hope this clarifies our relationship more, we are like brothers.”

Hope this clarifies things.

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m4tic@reddit

This is kind of a fucked question to ask after someone gives you most of the computer. If you bought it all yourself and built it from a friends recommendation, yea in 2026 you'd have been led astray as it's a couple gens behind. But you cannot beat the value proposition of what you have. It is a good pc.

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

I’m sorry if I came off as ungrateful. But I was afraid of having to upgrade in 1-2 years.

My thinking was maybe if I spend a little more money now then I could upgrade without my current parts losing most of their value.

I have a very good relationship with my friend and he will actually be very happy if I tell him I upgraded (he will have to build it anyway😅).

He is actually the one that recommended me to buy a 9800x3d if I’m feeling rich one day.

Hope this clarifies our relationship more, we are like brothers.

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Varides@reddit

I had the same experience when I built my PC. Coworker scoffed at me and said everything I purchased was outdated. It's been 6 years now and I've only made minor updates like a M.2 SSD and I'm still perfectly happy with it.

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Pixelationist@reddit

It’s all about price to performance ratio and use case. There is no objectively correct build, only the value to you as a user.

I also made the choice to go 5700x3d rather than AM5 last year. Instead I spent the money on a 5070ti instead, which worked out better for my needs.

Do not listen to anyone who doesn’t understand this, period. They’re idiots who only know how to parrot others on the internet. People play AAA on a steam deck, anything can work given it fits your needs.

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DroppedNotes@reddit

It's a decent mid tier setup.

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Sweet_Orange8081@reddit

Yourv friend did you a solid. He gifted half the of the build to you. If you look up the prices of some of the parts now, it's actually gone up. Additionally, you have a core good memory of building and playing together.

That's a great friend! Buy him a beer and get your game on with him.

Depending on the games you play, you're good for years to come. Not everything has to be 4k gaming at the best settings and fastest frames.

Play at 2k or 1080 hd if the AAA games become to much in the future. Ride out the ram apocalypse in style and game with your buddies.

The dude at work is a Grinch.

It plays your games now and you're able to trades stocks with it. Enjoy! Wave bye to the haters on your way to realizing you have good friends in your life.

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

Wholesome comment made me smile.

Will do friend!

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furruck@reddit

While it’s technically “outdated” - if it runs fine and does everything you need then it doesn’t matter.

DDR5 is insanely expensive right now, so DDR4/AM4 is a perfectly valid option, and your cpu is excellent for gaming.

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Werespider@reddit

You're fine. Your system is very similar to mine and I play most games at 1440x3440 on high. For reference, my specs are 6800XT, 5800X 32gb DDR4.

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lnsip9reg@reddit

No it's GREAT. The other guy is an asshole playing his ego games with you. You're gonna get dragged down in that?

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esssential@reddit

Solid build, you'll definitely get some good use out of it

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Beneficial-Ranger238@reddit

Bro, there are plenty of people with newer systems that can’t match yours. It’s a solid build, you should be proud.

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lemulot@reddit

To me DDR5 is shit anyway. Go tell him how he would stabilize a 4-lane RAM on AM5? I know the answer, and it basically involves a lot of praying 😅

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

That’s what I will do.

Thanks friend!

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OfficialTree15@reddit

If it makes you feel any better, I’m still running AM4 and definitely won’t be upgrading until DDR5 goes in price at the earliest but I don’t plan on upgrading for another year or maybe even 2 depending on what direction games go, AKA if I see any of the games I want to play say minimum specs is DDR5 RAM then that’s when I’ll start to even consider upgrading, but until then I’m sticking with AM4 until it no longer runs at all

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Comrade_Chyrk@reddit

Its plenty powerful to play pretty much any modern game perfectly fine. While ddr4 is now "dated" it still will be perfectly capable for quite some time.

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Tricky_Orange_4526@reddit

whoever that is at work sounds like an elitist snob. i could argue, why waste money on overpriced DDR5 when DDR6 might be around the corner.

but no you didn't mess up. i just helped my GF build a PC and its on LGA 1700 (dead socket) with DDR4 because it's functional and was affordable. im on an even more dead platform with a 10th gen i7 and i threw a 5070 in my PC and my PC is great for my needs at 1440p.

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canadian_viking@reddit

Going AM5 means you wouldn't be using that motherboard or RAM, so if the goal was to get you into a pretty decent computer with minimal expense, this seems like it got you there.

I mentioned my build and this guy started telling me it’s “outdated” because it’s AM4 and DDR4. He was like I should’ve gone AM5 + DDR5 and that I kinda got put on a dead platform.

Well, unless he's giving you parts, he should probably just shut the fuck up. You did just fine with what you were given.

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pleasetowmyshit@reddit

I’m still running a 3700X with a 5700XT but I consider my computer to be the fastest of everything in my family and it plays all the games I want just fine on a 4K TV.

This will likely be my last desktop computer. I’m old and would rather be portable from here out.

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

Very nice!

I’m very grateful and wish you many more years of pleasure my friend.

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BobcatEuphoric@reddit

Nah this is fine! I have a second PC on my living room with R5 5600 + RTX 5070 on a 65" 4k TV. You'll be good with that setup.

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

Now I wanna know what the main setup looks like haha.

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BobcatEuphoric@reddit

You can check my profile. I think I've made a post on some subreddit way back 2024 with my am5 build lol.

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rickydreddit@reddit

Looks like you already got a lot of similar replies but I’ll add on and say your build for 2026 is fine. Your friend that helped build your computer was smart with considering price to performance. Enjoy!

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

People have been wonderful! I will enjoy it friend

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Linesey@reddit

AM5 and DDR5 is better.

However if you like your internal organs where they are, and not sold on the black market to fund your build, it’s not exactly what you should be looking at.

As long as your build fits your needs, you’re good.

The biggest problem you will have, is it may stop crushing everything sooner. and at upgrade time you’ll need basically a full new PC, instead of incremental upgrades.

Overall, sounds like a solid build, don’t let the “must be the mostest cutting edge” folks rain on your parade.

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dleah@reddit

That’s a great pc and nobody messed anything up. Work guy is just a dick. Your only issue is that this build won’t be upgradable to a faster cpu or ram if you want to later without buying both of them and a new motherboard. It’s like saying you have last years new car model and it sucks when the reality is it’s perfectly usable as a car

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

Thank you so much for explaining. I feel like the pc is very fast and I only use it for gaming. I do play on 1440p so maybe that’s why he said it. But I’m still very happy with the pc.

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gettothecoppa@reddit

Higher resolutions are more GPU limited, instead of CPU. You would notice more of a difference between CPUs if you were gaming at 1080p. At 1440p things get closer, at 4K the CPU is almost an afterthought.

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lMarczOl@reddit

Even at 1440p this build will be solid for several years

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Sumeung-Gai@reddit

Great pc enjoy it

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Hungry_Freaks_Daddy@reddit

I'm on 32gb ddr4, 7800xt, and a 10900k and have zero qualms. esp with prices how they are now

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Lashmush@reddit

You have 32 gb of what I assume is samsung b-die, the best ddr4 ram for overclocking, your cpu is an x3d variant meaning it can push way better framerates and better 1% lows, you have a solid gpu, fast storage...

Honestly, you have a great pc for gaming. Your coworker isn't completely wrong, but it will perform great for your needs so disregard that information and enjoy your new hardware.

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Sue_Generoux@reddit

A lot of head scratchers in this post. Sure, AM5 and DDR5 is the future, but you've got a great system. This is like being told a 2027 model car is the future after you've just purchased and enjoy a model year 2026. As in, who cares? The 2026 is a great car and gets you where you need to go.

I just rebuilt my system--5600X with an Intel Arc A750. Some builders may turn their noses up at my system, but it does everything I need it to do, I enjoy the hell out of it, and I don't have a credit card bill I'm still paying off because of it. And I think bang for the buck without being overextended is a healthy attitude.

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alkashef88@reddit

I have the same exact build and I'm not going to upgrade anytime soon with DDR5 pricing at the moment, just ignore anyone telling u it's outdated especially when u got the ram and motherboard as a gift.

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

Point taken.

Im very happy i only had to pay for the CPU GPU and SSD and I will have to buy him dinner after reading all the comments.

What type of games do you play, and what frame rate are you getting if I may ask?

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Denman20@reddit

In this market? Solid system dude, you got so much fun shit to play on steam. Epic game store gives a free game every month!

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Hydrographe@reddit

A PC's outdated if it can't run the games you want to play.

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DumbassNinja@reddit

Your system is killer! Don't let people talk that down, especially when so much of it was free/dirt cheap.

All that really matters is the memories you made with your friend and the fact that it plays games good enough to make you happy.

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TRANxEND@reddit

It's a computer, you upgrade when it no longer meets your needs like playing the latest games at max settings for example.

The guy saying it's outdated sounds like an idiot who only thinks you need to be on the latest tech.

Also everyone has different budgets, hence why there's many options to choose from.

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Samwise_Gamjamino@reddit

Folks are mentioning this already, but expectations are the thief of joy. Are you happy with it and how it plays the games you play now? That is all that matters.

AM4 is still viable for QHD gameplay with your specs, imo.

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noonen000z@reddit

You have a b550 mobo, I run a b450, even older. It's fine, I have the best AMD GPU and slightly better 5800x3d CPU and have no interest in upgrading any time soon.

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OddPsychology502@reddit

Is there a game you want to play at a certain resolution that you can't play? If yes then oops. If no then what's the problem?

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nic-warrior@reddit

“I got most of the parts for free” then why are you concerned?

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iambolbol@reddit

I bought pretty much the same pc (same CPU, same ram, similar GPU) in the summer of 2025, and im happy with how it handles my favourite games. It will be outdated when it doesn’t run your games. For me, that is likely to be in the distant future

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NoKey4585@reddit

Nah, you're good. You can lower your settings, use framegen, upscaling and loseless scaling. Your PC is more then enough for a while as long as you're realistic with your settings. This isn't quite like back in the PS3 days where games on low settings looked like crap.

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Nic1800@reddit

Good specs, but the unfortunate reality is that the 7000 series not getting FSR 4 does make it outdated in a landscape where upscaling and frame gen are becoming soft requirements to get good performance. FSR 3 is… a very mixed bag.

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

That’s interesting.

Is FSR something I should run on all my games? I heard it could affect my performance negatively when it comes to online gaming that’s why I always turn it off.

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Nic1800@reddit

No, it will always increase performance, that’s never going to be a problem unless if you use FSR native AA, which will make your image at a cost of performance compared to native TAA. Trust me, its worth the performance hit most of the time.

If you can sometime soon, sell the 7800 XT and grab the RX 9070. Slightly better performance with same amount of VRAM with FSR 4 support, which is unbelievably better than FSR 3. Works well with your 5700x3D!

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

After reading all your kind comments I feel a lot better about my PC.

Thank you all.

I’m sorry if I can’t reply to all your comments but i try to read them all!

You guys are amazing!

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number8888@reddit

This system will last for a good few years still, and probably a better value overall even though it uses the older socket.

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Xaxxus@reddit

Your coworker isn’t wrong, new AM4 and DDR4 products are not being developed.

But your friend is also right. What you have is probably good enough to play everything available today.

The problems is going to come down the line in a few years when you want to upgrade stuff. You will need to replace the motherboard, CPU AND ram all at once if you only want a newer CPU or newer RAM.

Did you fuck up? For today’s games not really.

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rebelSun25@reddit

Given the prices of ddr5, I would've suggested a used pc or a ddr4 setup like yours. This is a perfectly valid gaming rig. The CPU and GPU will be stable for 1080p and even most 1440p. You don't need the latest models to do everything, just need it to do what you want

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rajatbiswal@reddit

Due to RAM, GPU, SSD price hike, any build will last more in current situation. I got Ultra 7 265K, DDR5 64GB, RTX 5060 Ti 16GB PC built. Now I think it will last for 10 years or more for me. Unless I need more power for AI.

So don't worry about being outdated. It is better to save now. Now is not a great time to buiild new system.

Even DDR4 RAM are 3 times the old price. I got 64GB DDR5 RAM for 20.2K but now it's around 75K.

So think about the price.

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DJamPhishman@reddit

You're good for awhile. Both your CPU and GPU are solid af and will stay relevant and capable for quite some time

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AnubianWolf@reddit

F that guy. Douchbag.

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NotSynthx@reddit

It's totally fine

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Exodus2791@reddit

>Did I actually mess up going AM4 in 2026?
Looks at prices. No, you did not make a mistake.

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Kvothe31415@reddit

It’s outdated in the sense that yes, it’s not the newest platform. Some people have to have the latest and greatest.

Is it outdated and won’t run games? Not at all, I’m on AM4 still and plan on staying that way for a few more years. You’ve got one of the best CPU’s to have for AM4, and a great GPU with 16gb of vram. You’ll be just fine.

Enjoy your new pc, enjoy the literal thousands of games your pc can easily handle. I just played resident evil 9 with great performance on my 5600x, so you won’t be limited to older games either.

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

Thank you for explaining so thoroughly! I will certainly enjoy this pc for the many years to come. My fear of having to upgrade in 1-2 years got the better of me but comments like these made me feel a lot better! Hope you pick up that 5800x3d and wish you the best brother.

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brianfong@reddit

You just have outdated demands so you built an outdated PC. No shame when you don't game.

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Due_Permission4658@reddit

guys just talking really good 1440p build best am4 cpu too

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

Thanks! I’m glad that’s the case since I’m using it on a 1440p 240hz monitor. These comments made me feel a lot better!

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Naerven@reddit

Every 18 months nearly every part of a computer will have something newer faster better released. It's why computers have never been future proof. If it does what you want it is good enough for you so who cares what others think.

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CompilerBreak@reddit

I went from AM4>AM5 a couple years ago, even at the prices back then I slightly regretted it vs an AM4 X3D chip. You've got a great setup that'll last many years, don't worry about it.

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

Thanks friend, I feel a lot better after the nice comments from the people here. I was afraid of having to upgrade within 1-2 years because it would get slow. But that doesn’t seem to be the case.

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CryptikTwo@reddit

Every pc is technically outdated in about 2 years, often less. That doesn’t mean it’s not suitable for the job and buying the latest and greatest parts is insanely expensive. Your pc is very capable and considerably better than the majority of gamers.

Being on a “dead platform” is meaningless unless you want to keep spending more on minor upgrades, most people however want their pc to last several years by which point a full build is the path to go for an upgrade anyway.

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shawndw@reddit

Honestly I upgrade on a 10 year cycle and with the current hardware shortage I don't think game producers will be pushing the envelope any time soon.

That's still a very capable rig and will be well into the future. How much did you spend on it?

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Effective_Grass8355@reddit

It's a solid PC that will do most games at 1440p high. Maybe 3-4 years from now you may consider going to AM5 and DDR5 but you've got plenty of time.

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aminy23@reddit

It really depends on budget.

While AMD is typically better than Intel, it's premium and not economy.

Intel is typically a better economy choice, compared to older AM5 CPUs. For example an i5-12400 or 12600KF is a great alternative to a 5600/5700X or a 250KF is a great alternative to a 7600(X).

The GPU is the most important component in a gaming PC. Typically I recommend allocating about 40% of the budget to it.

The absolute minimum GPUs I would consider with DDR5 is an RX 7800/9070 or RTX 4070/5070. Below this, DDR5 is a waste of money and it's better spent on the GPU.

However AMD has a poor history of long-term driver support for graphics cards. The RX 6000 series is already starting to get retired and the RX 7000 is next in line for the driver chopping block.

RX 7000 is great if you already have one, but if not get RX 9000 new or Nvidia if you want used.

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cottonycloud@reddit

If it seems good enough for you, that’s fine. The latest and greatest comes with a high price tag that might not be worth it for you, and your friend kept that in mind.

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Sycze@reddit (OP)

You’re right! It feels fast and the games I play are very smooth. These comments made me feel a lot better from you guys!

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Eerieyerris@reddit

While the specs may be older, especially on the cpu side that PC is NOT that outdated lmao. Whoever told you that is silly. That PC is still great. The GPU is literally a generation older vs AMDs newest gen. And the cpu while in AM4 platform was made available to everyone January 2024.

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ime1em@reddit

Outdated as in its 1-2 generations (depending on how you define it) yes. But if it's fast enough for your games then why bother?

Yes of course AM5 platform is faster but it also cost more too