First Air Canada A321XLR inbound from Hamburg to Windsor
Posted by CauseOdd8401@reddit | aviation | View on Reddit | 74 comments
Posted by CauseOdd8401@reddit | aviation | View on Reddit | 74 comments
youlikeblockingsodoi@reddit
To pilots of commercial airliners such as this : Are there some procedures or adjustments needed to your flying based on the newness of the plane such as this A321XLR? For example when brakes are changed on a new car there’s a bedding in procedure. On older engines that are overhauled the revs are limited until the engine is broken in. Does this plane need anything different for the first X miles ?
_pablolives@reddit
No bedding in required like a new engine on a car. Fly it like normal and maintenance takes care of all the monitoring for the engines and other systems. There may be more frequent service intervals, but we aren’t in the loop for any of that.
This airplane in particular requires/d 320 pilots in yyz/yul to get ETOPS certification, but that is to do with the planned XLR routes
youlikeblockingsodoi@reddit
Thank you!
dannyghobo@reddit
I got a video of it on approach over my house. Here’s a screenshot
CauseOdd8401@reddit (OP)
Damn lucky you, you must get a lot of nice views!
dannyghobo@reddit
I do when they land in that direction! They fly directly over my house, I’ve gotten on the roof a few times and watched 737s fly right over my head lol. This one was pretty cool tho
Historical_Sherbet54@reddit
I used to love watching the Concorde land there
Peacewind152@reddit
Neat! I'm at the airport on Sunday. I'll see if it's out in the open.
CauseOdd8401@reddit (OP)
Make sure to grab a pic!
Whillikers-Geez@reddit
Imagine being German and your first exposure to Canada is Windsor.
CauseOdd8401@reddit (OP)
People from Europe's automotive capital landing in Canada's automotive capital? I'd say they'd feel right at home!
Whillikers-Geez@reddit
In my experience, Windsor is nothing like Germany.
to_fire1@reddit
Why does it go to Windsor?
CauseOdd8401@reddit (OP)
Yeah we have a maintenance facility and hangar here. Lots of planes pass through.
imtourist@reddit
Oh ok. I thought maybe there was a German tourist segment that loves Canadian strip malls:)
kdlangequalsgoddess@reddit
There's a direct summer flight from Germany to Yellowknife, so it's not that improbable.
snow_big_deal@reddit
"You vill love Vinsor, ja. It's like Detroit, but small and boring!"
No_Crab1183@reddit
We don't, no, the work is contracted out to AAR. 💀
CauseOdd8401@reddit (OP)
I never implied as such, by 'we' I meant Windsor, not Air Canada.
Also, I'm actually not even sure, but I'm guessing an actual Air Canada-specific maintenance facility like Tech Ops usually wouldn't do work on other company's jets, right?
No_Crab1183@reddit
Pardon my misunderstanding, it felt important to clarify. Lost work is a hot topic, historically speaking.
AC used to facilitate its own world-class, in house MRO for maintenance, similar to many American counterparts. Unfortunately AVEOS was shuttered and thousands of jobs lost back in 2012. Work continues to leave, unfortunately.
Rules and regulations surrounding an AMO/MRO and the performance of maintenance are in depth and usually based around a specified maintenance policy & control manual. At the end of the day, you are allowed to complete work that has been approved under the governing body. The answer would be no/yes, as it all really depends on the scenario and situation. No by default, yes by contract.
CauseOdd8401@reddit (OP)
Oh no worries at all, I wasn't offended or anything if that was the impression you got. And thanks for the explanation!
No_Crab1183@reddit
Of course, and thanks for sharing the awesome video! I really appreciate it. 🙏
CauseOdd8401@reddit (OP)
My pleasure!
legardeur2@reddit
I was going to ask too.
FlatPainting3846@reddit
i think for like seat fitting and stuff
vancoffeecake@reddit
What routes will they fly ?
CauseOdd8401@reddit (OP)
Not sure specifically but probably mostly transatlantic routes.
meh_whatev@reddit
Plans changed for PMI, 788s will be sent instead
CauseOdd8401@reddit (OP)
Ahhh thanks for the update?
FlatPainting3846@reddit
what a sexy livery
CauseOdd8401@reddit (OP)
Most people seem to disagree with you and I (especially here in Canada, calling it too minimalist) but you know what? Hell yeah!
It actually reminds me of the livery they used between 1990-2004, as seen below. Fun fact, the tail is actually a very very very dark green. The tail on this new one actually is black though.
flightist@reddit
There’s at least one 320 in a livery that’s even closer to the 90s version; there’s no mask and the belly isn’t black. So from a distance the only real tell is the rondelle.
Bright_Broccoli1844@reddit
What's a mask in reference to livery?
flightist@reddit
The black paint around the flight deck windows.
its_meem_not_meh_meh@reddit
You guys called it slutty eyeliner
flightist@reddit
I didn’t want to be crass, but it’s absolutely the slutty eyeliner
DistributionHot2150@reddit
Those are the ones they recently got last year hurriedly repainted
flightist@reddit
How many are there? Saw one in Edmonton and did a double take.
a380b787@reddit
I miss the dark green tail
some_dunce@reddit
Gotta say, the black belly and mask with the original rondelle make all the difference.
CoffeeBeanATC@reddit
Really?! Do people prefer the all over light blue-green, or the even older maple leaf within the circle logo?! Yes, I did know the 1990-2004 livery had a very dark green tail, it was very noticeably not black.
I actually prefer the latest livery the most, I think it’s not obnoxious like Spirit, & it’s a little more timeless because it is so minimalistic, they can probably get more mileage out of this livery.
Silicon_Knight@reddit
I like it too as a Canadian. Maybe at first I was on the fence but it’s grown on me. Now I hate the old one lol.
cherrycocktail20@reddit
I’ve flown AC a lot recently and every time I think how sharp this livery is. I love it.
mnztr1@reddit
I much preferred the Ice livery. I wish they had updated it vs this one.
Bright_Broccoli1844@reddit
I like the sounds in this video.
CauseOdd8401@reddit (OP)
If you're referring to the sounds of the airplane, and you have some free time on your hand, check out some from some other aircraft on YouTube. Aircraft have very unique but fascinating engine sounds; its probably one of our favorite things to listen to as aircraft enthusiasts.
Bright_Broccoli1844@reddit
Yeah, there's a certain wooshing noise I heard here. I like various aspects of aviation except delays and turbulence.
CauseOdd8401@reddit (OP)
I think its take a unique kind of person to enjoy delays and turbulence. Though delays I get if you are nervous about travelling, or aren't in a particular rush. And turbulence if you're a kid who loves roller coasters.
hithisisjukes@reddit
hamburg germany? any chance we can get hamburg montreal flights in the future?
CauseOdd8401@reddit (OP)
No but one of the first routes will be Berlin-Montreal!
hithisisjukes@reddit
ah nvm its not commercial :(
DOOM_INTENSIFIES@reddit
Airbus 757.
Anyone else seeing that?
CauseOdd8401@reddit (OP)
About what?
CerebralAccountant@reddit
That landing was an absolute greaser. Nicely done!
CauseOdd8401@reddit (OP)
Haha thanks, but do keep an eye out for others who have posted videos. There was a few of us keeping an eye out. Some definitely had better cameras.
Bopping_Shasket@reddit
I've accidentally flown to Windsor!
CauseOdd8401@reddit (OP)
Now thats a story I want to hear.
flightist@reddit
I’ll buck the trend here and admit that while it has nice winglets, I’m pretty well incapable of finding any member of the 32x family aesthetically interesting.
However, was out for a beer with a friend who had a snapshot of the OFP from a group chat, and that thing evidently flew from Hamburg to Windsor needing only about 75% of the total possible fuel load. I know it’s empty but that’s just bloody wild.
CoffeeBeanATC@reddit
Is it just the outline you dislike about the A320/321s?? I have to admit, I do prefer the Boeing nose, but I’m not a fan of how low-slung the B737s are, those flat nacelles irritate me to no end. I was surprised they kept them for the B738, since it is meant to hold more people than the B734. I do like the scalloped edges of the MAX 8/9 engines & thank goodness they had to install larger engines & raise the height! I tend to prefer the sleeker look of the CRJ9 & Embraer 175/190
flightist@reddit
If it’s possible for something to be aggressively plain, or flamboyantly devoid of personality, the 320 family is it. Technically impressive as hell, just looks like a 12 year old’s platonic ideal of an airliner if that 12 year old was on SSRIs.
This is, of course, completely immaterial to its qualities as an airliner. I’m just totally lost when people (mostly my friends who fly it) talk about how beautiful it is.
FreeDwooD@reddit
Out of interest, does that extend to the A350? I get the feeling of the A320 being the default airliner, but the 350 does have some more aesthetic elements to it.
flightist@reddit
No, it’s got that lovely graceful curve to its wing that flows into the winglet; looks almost organic. From the side the nose is a tad blunt for my tastes, but it’s an Airbus, that’s just how they do it. Still a very good looking airplane.
And to be clear, I don’t think the 320 family is ugly, just
DifficultyNo3596@reddit
It is honestly so wild to think about that much power and efficiency carrying us across the world when all I can focus on is the terrifying beauty of being suspended in the air by nothing but engineering and a little bit of faith
boost_deuce@reddit
What’s Air Canadas route plans for this one? Europe?
flightist@reddit
Yes, and premium transborder routes. Think LAX-YYZ.
FlatPainting3846@reddit
no, no routes to the us have been set yet. more like yul-yvr
flightist@reddit
The regular 321s don’t have the range to fly YYZ-LAX in winter winds, and the 737s are going to Rouge. There’s precisely zero chance the XLR doesn’t take that flying over.
Single_Lunch1085@reddit
Smooth landing! :)
hajileeeeeee@reddit
Thought it was my stomach grumbling for a sec
MacGibber@reddit
Why Windsor is my question?
True-Industry-4057@reddit
Cabin fittings
No_Crab1183@reddit
A few minor cabin upgrades at AAR.
No_Crab1183@reddit
Welcome, my sweet.
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