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22 Long Rifle TL-M133 Electric Cannon

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22 Long Rifle TL-M133 Electric Cannon
It's a minigun that isn't. [https://smallarmsreview.com/interview-with-ty-meligan-of-tl-guns/](https://smallarmsreview.com/interview-with-ty-meligan-of-tl-guns/)

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Temporary_Border7233@reddit

Hear me out. Perfect for drone defense. 6000ish rounds of 22lr fit into a standard ammo can. A single round to hit is all thats needed to take out most drones. You can have an insanely high rate of fire and mount this to basically any vehicle/ even 3 man team portable.
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RamTank@reddit

Except the range is terrible, and a single hit will only work against small quadcopters and fpv drones. Larger kamikaze drones and loitering munitions will largely ignore it unless you get a lucky hit on something important.
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Fuzlet@reddit

no no, now hear me out: .17 HMR microgun
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Camplaysguitar@reddit

this. 17hmr has gone through everything I didn't want it to go through
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JustACanadianGuy07@reddit

Thankfully you’re shooting 50 rounds per second, assuming a 3000 rpm fire rate, so hitting something important shouldn’t be too hard.
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RamTank@reddit

You'd be surprised. Ukrainian gunners often need really long bursts out of their miniguns to take down a Shahed. There's a reason people realized rifle-caliber machine guns weren't good anti-air weapons by 1940.
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Swiftzword@reddit

But 2 minutes of full auto and dirt cheap 22lr ammunition. Quantity has a quality of its own.
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Adventurous-Tie-1624@reddit

Hell of a lot more range than a shot out of a shotgun. .22LR at 300M would still mess up the little drones.
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shadhead1981@reddit

Good luck figuring out that 10’ish of drop at that distance but I agree it’s better than a shotgun
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Washingtonpinot@reddit

I think that’s where the 6,000 rounds come in. AA defense isn’t really a 1-shot, 1-kill situation. It’s more like a molten squirt gun fight.
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AvisTheAstronaut@reddit

It seems like the solution should be a shotgun minigun
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PearlClaw@reddit

Do they make .22lr tracer?
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JustACanadianGuy07@reddit

Yes they do, and they are pretty cool.
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ThePrideOfKrakow@reddit

Use tracers
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Nerdenator@reddit

Eh. Worth a shot. No pun intended.
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Temporary_Border7233@reddit

Shhh I want cheap 22lr mini gun parts kits. Now shut up before you ruin this for everyone
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DukeOfGeek@reddit

[An American 180](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J50N5lQoAFw) would be cheaper lighter and just as good. The only actual target for it though would be a surveillance drone that's loitering outside of the effective range of a shotgun set up for max range. They are making some computer aided optics now that might actually let you zoom in on a drone 500 yards away and direct the "swarm of angry bees" at it. Like you say one or 2 hits is all it would take.
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Q-Ball7@reddit

No, it wouldn't, because once the inevitable FTF happens the gun's down. This doesn't care if the round fails to go off.
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xbuzzbyx@reddit

just use reliable ammo? but your point makes sense.
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Q-Ball7@reddit

"Reliable" and ".22LR" are mutually exclusive.
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xbuzzbyx@reddit

\>_> clean and lube your gun, and shoot a clean brand.
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xbuzzbyx@reddit

damn! you beat me to it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP9Bzc-QikU
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Postkrunk@reddit

So, a Phalanx microCIWS. I think that 5.56mm version would be better because it would have trasser rounds, and it's rimless. And radar or optical guidance would be needed, because maintenance costs will be too high to afford missing a lot of shots.
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Temporary_Border7233@reddit

Pft. Radar. The air is 90% lead. Why would you need a radar
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Eisenbahn-de-order@reddit

I think this is actually one of the pros of a Gatlin gun setup, regardless of misfires, which rimfires experiences a lot more, the barrel will be rotated and the next round fired.
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DetroitAdjacent@reddit

I will never truly be free until I can build a Hotchkiss 1875 Mountain Gun in my garage without the feds showing up.
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ChevTecGroup@reddit

You can actually
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SpaceHarrier3101@reddit

Ok so this could be a man portable minigun, although I wonder how reliable it can be do to being a 22 caliber gun.
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ThetaReactor@reddit

It's as reliable as the motor driving it. Rounds that fail to fire will still be rotated out and ejected, because the gun doesn't use any of the recoil or gas to function.
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ChevTecGroup@reddit

Well. Its as reliable as the feed mechanism. Thats always the weak point of miniguns
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kiddoBatrix@reddit

Dear god, I’ve been really good. I know I don’t normally pray, and I know I should more… god, I need one of these.
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RamTank@reddit

Minigun, microgun…nanogun?
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ClayQuarterCake@reddit

I mean… if “gun” shoots 20mm (M61) or 30mm (GAU-8) then minigun (M134) and microgun (XM214) Seems right.
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DukeOfGeek@reddit

The one in the old Shadow run table top only had 3 barrels and was way smaller and lighter than this one. More practical really.
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loogie97@reddit

It is a good size.
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Rk_1138@reddit

A gun of average size that isn’t small at all
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InitialLandscape@reddit

Finally! A .22 that i can't afford too shoot!
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ChoochieReturns@reddit

You know, the American 180 wouldn't be the worst choice for a man portable anti drone system. SLIGHTLY more practical than a gatling gun.
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Atholthedestroyer@reddit

Two gunners and a ten man team of reloaders to keep the pans full
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Iateurm8@reddit

"Cannon" is a bit of an overstatement
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MlackBesa@reddit

Sounds insanely fun, more so than the 7.62 version
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GreenestPure@reddit

Teenyweenygun.
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KeeganY_SR-UVB76@reddit

Miniminigun
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Nels-Ivarsson@reddit

Painless!
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