[News] Japan Photoresist Suppliers Flag Shortage Amid >40% Middle East Naphtha Reliance, Risks for Chipmakers
Posted by imaginary_num6er@reddit | hardware | View on Reddit | 14 comments
imaginary_num6er@reddit (OP)
Polar_Banny@reddit
Of course, this “shortage” must be in somehow justified.
Hopefully this AI-Shit-Bubble will burst soon 💥
TheFaithlessFaithful@reddit
Are you saying the shortage of chips is fake?
Roxalon_Prime@reddit
If this blockade continues we will soon be in a shortage of everything... Most people, including experts analysts Wall Street guys etc Don't seem to understand how big of a deal it is.
Strazdas1@reddit
Because its not that big of a deal as you are trying to make.
Roxalon_Prime@reddit
Let's talk about it 3 months later. RemindMe! 3 months hormuz strait
guebja@reddit
At this point, we might as well call it the Everything Shortage.
iBoMbY@reddit
Most of everything we make depends on something with long hydrocarbon chains directly, or indirectly, and most of them currently come from crude oil. This whole thing will get a lot worse, before it gets better.
JeefBerky789@reddit
I think the thing that concerns me is the article also mentioned that roll on hard masks and temporary adhesives used in hbm production might get affected. THIS is really bad (id argue this is more concerning than euv getting affected) because this will affect processes that are extremely crucial to anything that uses vertical ic stacking/3d heterogeneous integration. In other words basically all modern memory including hbm. This will also affect logic to an extent like amd X3D cpus since similar processes are used to allow for amd to put 3d v cache on the same subtrate as the logic die.
Hard masks are super important because they have a significantly higher silicon etch selectivity than photoresist (in english this means higher etch resistance). For anyone that isnt familiar with semiconductor manufacturing, you need your mask or pattern to be resiliant enough to hold its shape through whatever process youre going to do after lithography whether its etching, deposition, etc. And generally speaking the mask is not 100% resistant to etch processes and will be affected alongside whatever silicon youre trying to etch.
This is where hard masks come in handy. They are commonly used in memory production because you need to be able to etch super deep trenches that you then deposit other materials in to make something called through silicon vias (TSV). TSVs are what allow you to stack chips on top of each other vertically enabling things like HBM and having memory on the same substrate as logic (like AMD 3d v cache). Photoresist alone is generally not sufficient enough to last through a deep reactive ion etch without getting destroyed unlike a hard mask. And since hard masks are able to hold their shape through intense etch processes you can get deeper features AND higher resolution features so you can cram more shit into the same area.
Sorry for the yap im a uni student whose research interests are heavily related to memory production so i wanted to share this tidbit.
Reporting4Booty@reddit
This is going to have a compounding effect on everything that relies on EUV. We have yet to see the worst of it, it's so fucked lol.
adaminc@reddit
Canada should try and become a new source, since it would be more stable long term.
R-ten-K@reddit
Canada is already a major producer.
PurpleTangent@reddit
Canada's largest oil source, the Oil Sands, is super heavy, low quality, high sulfur oil that is extremely expensive to extract in comparison to Gulf oil. There's a reason why Alberta gets fucked every time oil prices drop too much.
We do have a few offshore platforms that provide light crude but typically it just gets used to improve our export mix.
Ashratt@reddit
Cause I had no idea: