Racing to Hawaii | TheaterFire

If you're just being a grammar pedant, bug off. If you actually don't know why outbound leg is worse, jetstream pushes east, often there's a pretty substantial headwind on the way, and a tailwind on the way back.

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Swimming_Way_7372@reddit

But we like airplanes, shouldn't we enjoy the longer flights?

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CYYA@reddit

We like airplanes, not passengers getting drunk bc it’s their first flight to the aloha state. Some of us are just trying to get back home.

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SuperChingaso5000@reddit

I did enjoy the unlimited guava juice last time I did a Hawaii flight. But I enjoy being in Hawaii more than the back of a 777.

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Darth19Vader77@reddit

Sometimes I'll do a flight in MSFS from LA to Hawaii in Concorde and it's kinda funny when you pass by other airplanes like 20,000 ft below you and going half the speed

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dudestir127@reddit

As a Hawaii resident, I would love to be able to get to the mainland or Japan at Mach 2

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bicycloptopus@reddit

How do I summon the sr71 copypasta

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Castun@reddit

"Center, Dusty 52 ground speed check"

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PourLarryaCrown@reddit

You’re losing

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Broad-Lobster7470@reddit (OP)

We gave it everything we got

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Great-Appearance-714@reddit

But did you ask Scotty?

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WarkMahlberg69@reddit

Did you spray the NOS?

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danit0ba94@reddit

If they fly through clouds does that count as water injection? V:

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WarkMahlberg69@reddit

Direct manifold cooling system

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Darth_Quaider@reddit

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BackroadAdventure101@reddit

You should have gotten out and pushed.

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U2ElectricBoogaloo@reddit

Yes, but if you ain’t first you’re last 🤷‍♂️

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tortureofchalkdust@reddit

Dammit Ricky.. I was drunk when I said that!!

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mike-manley@reddit

SHAKE AND BAKE!

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DaN-WiL@reddit

You could be 2nd

You could be 3rd

HELL you could EVEN BE 4TH

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mechabeast@reddit

What? Who told you that?

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Yoojine@reddit

Should have thrown some dead weight overboard

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SpecialistWarning657@reddit

Unless the other plane was vectored away from Hawaii and this one was direct.

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sleeplessmorning@reddit

Monica!!!

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michimoby@reddit

Rubbin’ is racin’

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fresh_like_Oprah@reddit

Over 300 flights a day from the mainland. You would think crew costs would dictate larger planes.

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Sasquatch-d@reddit

Airlines do use larger aircraft on some routes, United sends ten 777s per day to the islands. But those 300 flights a day are from 6 different airlines from 40 different cities to 4 different islands. Many of those city pairs are only 1 flight per day and usually don’t warrant equipment upguage.

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TEG24601@reddit

The multiple Alaska flights on 737s are annoying. If you have that much demand... and since you own Hawaiian, why not use the A330s? The costs have to pencil out, and the experience would be so much more enjoyable for the passengers.

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Sasquatch-d@reddit

Well until last year all Alaska had was 737s. Now they inherited Hawaiians aircraft but also its route network, many of their the A330s still need to operate to Asia and the South Pacific. The 330s still run heavily to major west coast cities.

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Lonetrek@reddit

OAK soon as well. They're going to be using the 330 instead of the 321neo

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TEG24601@reddit

Move the Alaska mainline flights from the coastal cities (SEA, PDX, SFO, LAX, SAN, etc) to the Hawaiian fleet. And increase the use of wide bodies to serve those cities and provide a better service than is even remotely possible on a 737. However service to smaller airports, like PAE, can remain on AS mainline and use a 737.

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Easy_Money_@reddit

I mentioned it in my other comment, but this is already basically what they do. There isn’t PAE-HNL service, but SFO/SAN/LAX/PDX/SEA/OAK-HNL all use at least one A330. Some of the bigger connectors like SEA and PDX use multiple. Then some longer flights like PHX/JFK-HNL do so as well. Smaller airports like SJC and BUR + off-peak frequencies use the A321s and 737s. The problem is there aren’t enough A330s for all of the missions. They also need one for HND/KIX/SYD/PPT-HNL international flights.

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Sasquatch-d@reddit

And where do all of these additional A330s come from? All of the cities you mentioned already have A330s flying there. If you want double the A330s on these routes they have to end service elsewhere.

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younkoda@reddit

The A330 current mission is to cover the void left when Alaska reassigned Hawaiian's 787s. Basically international flights and routes with high demand freight where a widebody is a requirement.

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Easy_Money_@reddit

They only have 24 A330-200s, which are already deployed to routes that require the gauge or distance (e.g. SEA, LAX, PDX, JFK to HNL). Hawaiian decided to go in on 787s instead of expanding the A332 fleet, which is frankly too much plane for the Hawaii mission

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TheyCallMeSuperChunk@reddit

In addition to the other points being raised about how new their widebody fleet is to them, and how early they are into merging their operations, I also want to ask: How is that annoying? Isn't there also a benefit of more/smaller flights, so that passengers have a lot more options for travel throughout the day, instead of shoring up all passengers from a given city into one or two flights? I think it would be especially important for people in the islands hoping for a not-terrible connection to their final destination once they're on the mainland.

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victorinseattle@reddit

They actually need probably a lot more A330’s to cover all the demand.

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DrEarlGreyIII@reddit

The United 757-200 from DEN to LIH is where it’s at. 🚀

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AreThree@reddit

United 757-200 from DEN to LIH

why is that? I've actually been looking at flights to there and DEN is my home airport, so I'm curious what you mean? 🙂

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sub2Ferrari488@reddit

If you do end up going ask the pilots or flight attendants if they have trading cards! Some pilots have trading cards for different aircraft and has different specs about each one on it. I found this out before going from VA-DEN-HI-CA-IL-VA managed to get 5 cards from my travels.they are cool to collect!

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AreThree@reddit

thanks! I had no idea about these, that's a neat idea! I will have to remember to ask!

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sub2Ferrari488@reddit

Talking to some of the pilots not all carry them since they have to purchase them themselves. Other airlines also have cards, delta for sure has cards but supplies them for the pilots at no cost. Hawaiian Airlines doesn't have any cards as of last summer. Never hurts to ask tho! Enjoy your travels!

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DrEarlGreyIII@reddit

i personally love the 757-200. it is often called “the sports car of the skies” because it has the highest power:weight ratio of any commercial passenger jet — it rips through the sky, and the takeoffs are a lot of fun.

it’s a narrow body jet though (only one aisle down the middle), so if you are traveling with kids, you might consider a different jet, as it can feel a bit claustrophobic for some on long routes.

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AreThree@reddit

thanks for your answer! I did not know that about the direct flight! Sounds like the way to go for sure!!

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DrEarlGreyIII@reddit

safe and pleasant travels!

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Sasquatch-d@reddit

but the seats throughout are a bit wider than most planes

Not true actually. The fuselage has the exact same with as the 737 family, which is 7 inches narrower than the A320 family.

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DrEarlGreyIII@reddit

huh. interesting. thank you for correcting me and I will edit my post. lie flat on that plane and route is one of my favorite commercial airliner routes. 🙌

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gregarious119@reddit

Just took that in December!

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fresh_like_Oprah@reddit

Those triples and Hawaiian's A330s are about the only way a non-revver gets there anymore. A small single aisle to HNL is a miserable ride in coach.

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Sasquatch-d@reddit

Not always. Last week I flew a completely full 777-300 HNL-SFO. 40 nonrevs left behind, not a single one got on.

Not caused by a cancellation either, it was full a week before I flew it.

It’s common for demand to far exceed available seats.

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fresh_like_Oprah@reddit

The classic is you can get there but can't get back. These days I usually non-rev there and use miles for a real seat back.

There was a story that once NWA flew a 747 over just to get all the stranded non-revs back to work...don't know if it's true.

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Sasquatch-d@reddit

I’ve heard that story before too but I’ve never verified if it’s true haha

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ImYourHumbleNarrator@reddit

seriously? thats a lot of leis. i guess plastic is cheap all in all

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MGreymanN@reddit

Flying two 737s is cheaper than one 777.

The main advantage of flying 777s to Hawaii is the ability to carry additional cargo, not passengers.

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Fun-Cut-7149@reddit

“Max verstappen and lando norris” ahh

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Broad-Lobster7470@reddit (OP)

Max vairstappen vs land-on Norris

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Guayabo786@reddit

Hawaiian A330 in the background?

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BlackVQ35HR@reddit

A330-SRT4

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mechabeast@reddit

...then its a dofight.

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gregarious119@reddit

all comes down to the pilot in the box

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Castun@reddit

Don't think, just do!

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BerylVanguard@reddit

Is that whole flight going to Gapplebee's once they touchdown?

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Unhappy-Flight6008@reddit

Sped up

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Broad-Lobster7470@reddit (OP)

It is a timelapse yes

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catinterpreter@reddit

Sort of but not really. It's sped up.

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AreThree@reddit

is that other aircraft aware that this aircraft is here?

Like, if these were cars, we would totally be in that other dude's blind spot...

I mean, I guess they could use flightradar24 or something since there aren't wing mirrors on these... lol 😊

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My_Monkey_Sphincter@reddit

Yea, unfortunately they only have windows and throttle as the only instruments to fly the damn thing with.

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boredatwork8866@reddit

Dude I almost had you! 😅

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joshwonkim080295@reddit

Hawaiian Airlines joined the Oneworld Alliance yesterday!

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danit0ba94@reddit

None are a match for the Queen!

^(is that a queen?)

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yourlocalFSDO@reddit

Looks like a Hawaiian A330

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Easy_Money_@reddit

Not an A321neo?

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ImaginaryAnimator416@reddit

I dont think thats a 747

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dawn_thesis@reddit

this causes climate change

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2McLaren4U@reddit

Fast as fuck boiiiiiii

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nighthawke75@reddit

"Loser buys drinks."

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jackie_daytona-@reddit

Forgot to hit the NOS

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HoneyReasonable9316@reddit

If only they could look behind and see Godzilla is chasing them.

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ltrumpbour@reddit

Soundtrack: Cake "Going the Distance"

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No-Clock2011@reddit

ARTHUR: Chaps, my galley’s been burgled. They’ve taken the trolley, er, the duty free, the microwave, even the hot water boiler. DOUGLAS: Sorry, Arthur, that was me. The lighter we keep the plane, the less fuel we need, so I’ve off-loaded all unnecessary dead weight. Speaking of which, how much do you weigh?

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maverick4002@reddit

Look like you lost