How I look at the security guard holding my BOL asking me if I'm loaded or empty

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midnight7374884@reddit

Try being LTL and having to make deliveries or pickups at Chemical Plants Lol it feels like I’m trying to enter the White House

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We had a guy at a nuclear plant who was in the inspection area when there was a security situation (someone trying to sneak on property) and he ended up waiting for over 7 hours. He ran out of time in a daycab. They paid his 7, plus 10, then to come back the next day. He got a ride to a hotel and they paid for the whole 9.

He was scared shitless. They were searching under the truck with a mirror, and the guard went in the office and came out with what he said was an M16, but I have no idea what it was. They left him there with no communication.

The guards at nuclear plants seem to have higher than room temperature IQ, and they are far more professional. Only non military guards I know of who are consistently super professional.

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tc6x6@reddit

Can confirm, have delivered to a nuclear power plant. Those guys are definitely not your typical, barely-above-minimum-wage security guards who found their job through a Craigslist ad. But they don't play, so using humor with them is not really a good idea.

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opinionated_penguin@reddit

I don’t mind picking up at chemical plants in the Houston Baytown area but when they make me come in and watch a 30 min safety video when all I’m doing is driving in, getting loaded, and driving out… oh lawdy

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midnight7374884@reddit

That’s part of what I’m talking about , the excess waste of time to just deliver 1 pallet

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opinionated_penguin@reddit

“ OK, now that you finish the safety video we’re gonna have you go about an eighth of a mile in take a left at the first stop sign a right at the second stop sign and then you’re going to see a blue shack at your 3 o’clock. The blue shack is not what you’re looking for. Fork left over the train tracks and you’re going to come across a man in a hardhat riding a bicycle. Answer his riddle and he will provide the second set of instructions. Good luck.”

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deathfollowsme2002@reddit

Nah not secure enough it's just one riddle anything less than riddles three is asking for trouble

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opinionated_penguin@reddit

“Hah! Bold of you to assume the second set of instructions is the final set of instructions, driver. No less than six different riddlers are under the employ of Covestro industrial Park at any given time. And we haven’t even mentioned the polyurethane cannon wielding Minotaur located in our eastern sector.” OK, I’m done wearing this bit out. 💀

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deathfollowsme2002@reddit

One more question for the bit then I'm over it too do you have to deal with all riddlers or is it just a day/night 3 and 3 also is the Eastern sector where the wrong answerers are sent to their extreme inconvenience

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opinionated_penguin@reddit

If u don’t have a hard hat in your truck, u gotta fight the Minotaur for his. Also riddlers do not sleep. Ur gettin 6 day or night

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PrivatePilot9@reddit

I spent 12 hours at a grocery facility once for 1 pallet. It was my entire duty day. It sucked because it was in the early days of mobile internet and just sitting watching YouTube or a movie or whatever wasn’t a thing. You can only read the same newspaper so many times.

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Exact-Leadership-521@reddit

Go to a scrap yard with 2 piles of crushed cars with 2 brand new Bobcats on the front. They told me anything entering the yard has to be unloaded and crushed. I just said do what you gotta do, I'm sure you got $175,000 to fix it up later

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Riyeko@reddit

For our LTL chemical deliveries we actually have to clear a whole space on the dock and the guys have to unload it themselves to insure everything's done the way they want it done.

I can see how it feels like that lol

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errosemedic@reddit

So as a security guard how am I supposed to know if the BOL you handed me is for what you’re currently carrying or what you’re here to pick up? Idgaf what you’re doing here as long as I see my address on the paperwork somewhere, I’m happy. Just give me your ID so I can sign you in and let the facility staff deal with you.

Also why the hell do so many truckers get huffy when I ask for ID? You know damn well we’re gonna ask so why not have it ready.

Ps the site I work at currently has an entry/exit gate for trucks and two exit only gates that are at either end of the parking lot. There’s a sign at the end of each driveway that says “no trucks in parking lot” and “all trucks go to gate at insert address for the gate here” (The entry gate is around the corner and has a different address). So why do so many truckers throw a fit when I hand them a piece of paper with directions to the correct gate and tell them they need to back out of the driveway because there’s no room for them to turn around?

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tc6x6@reddit

So as a security guard how am I supposed to know if the BOL you handed me is for what you’re
currently carrying or what you’re here to pick up?

They won't have a BOL for what they're there to pick up, because the driver isn't given a BOL until the trailer is loaded. So if a driver hands you a BOL, their trailer is already loaded.

They either got loaded at your facility and are checking out, or they're delivering to your facility and are checking in.

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Free-University-6497@reddit

Man I swear gate security is one of the biggest scams. Like nobody is going to waste sending a truck to an industrial building if they have no business being there. What are you actually contributing by checking us so thoroughly?

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Arcadaen@reddit

It's 1000% to do with organized crime rip-offs.

Getting a stolen bobtail on the inside of a lot where you know a product is going to be is the easiest million-dollar heist you could possibly do. It's why they have to ask redundant questions at the gate. It's why they get copies of your CDL-A license. It's why you check in and out. It's why there's a metric shot-ton of scale houses everywhere. It's not for "safety" - though they do check for that at random.

And it's why the biggest targets for skimming schemes all have an (unlicensed) scale on the way out: Anheuser-Busch, Marlborough, namely. Their shipments were getting lots of OS&D calls to the point that they have their own scales for them to say "yeah we weighed them ourselves. There is no way they are under by a whole pallet."

The evolution of Seals was insane btw. The mob literally had the same deal printing machine from the same manufacturers so that they could do their skims then they put the exact same seals back on the trucks. Now you have insane systems where seals are created in-house or by specific random suppliers that can validate the integrity of their seals by color and font.

I'm not kidding. Organized Crime.

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PrivatePilot9@reddit

I run LTL and go into a giant GM auto Plex regularly, only to leave with often half or more of a trailer load of freight still on the trailer for other calls. When I show up at the gatehouse and they ask me if I am empty or loaded, I say loaded, they ask me for GM paperwork, then I have to explain that I don’t have any GM paperwork because it’s not GM outbound freight, then they want to look in the trailer and see all that freight, proceed to get confused, and eventually just send me on my way.

Auto plants really have no concept of anything outside of full or empty, and only automotive freight. It’s like they forget the rest of the world exists

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RoseKlingel@reddit

They don't understand "multi-stop load"? 😂

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AndromedanPrince@reddit

ive pulled up to the wrong gate a few times in otr chemical. they serve a purpose although a rarity

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charonco@reddit

Yep. Just saved my butt last week. For the first time ever I accidentally hooked up to the wrong trailer. I grabbed the one next to the one I was supposed to hook up to. They caught me at the gate.

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charonco@reddit

My favorite is when I pull up too a Walmart DC in a Walmart truck with a Walmart trailer with a Walmart shirt on and they asked me for my Walmart ID. The Walmart ID is a joke. I could literally build one in Photoshop in 5 minutes. I always comment that it's a lot easier to forge that ID than it would be this truck.

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theastro_not@reddit

Also I think it’s in their job requirements that their IQ can’t be higher than 60 and they must be fucking miserable 24/7

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Riyeko@reddit

Oh my gate guard is miserable. Half the time I hear her give clear instructions and then watch these idiots drive in and do the fucking opposite.

Go to door 4. Open your doors. Tandems back. Stay in your truck and they'll come get you when they're done.

Go to door 4. Open doors. Don't move tandems. Back in. Get out of truck 15 times. Move tandems back after 3 people tell you. Go back inside. Get told to.. Stay. In. Your. Truck. Proceed to get out and walk around. Go inside. ..... Etc etc.

Like holy shit.

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Angry_Hermitcrab@reddit

I lurk here. What does tandems back mean? I assume it's not just backing all the trailers you have while aattached to to the door?

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njfish93@reddit

The set of wheels on the trailer is called a set of tandems. You can move them back and forth for weight distribution. The company wants to have them all the way back while they load so the trailer doesn't bounce around as much.

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Riyeko@reddit

For us it's not only for safety but it's also because the trailer lifts up at the very last second so the dock plate can reach the trailer properly lol.

Otherwise our forklifts will be doing wheelies in and out of the trailer

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Angry_Hermitcrab@reddit

I am utterly surprised I don't know that. Thanks lol

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P3asantGamer@reddit (OP)

If I worked for that wage I'd actually like my IQ was 60 too 🤣

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DreamsServedSoft@reddit

“I don’t need a seatbelt, I never crash”

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ThePeterbilt589@reddit

Wait until they start doing full body searches for extra cargo 💀

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Deodorized@reddit

Most of the security-theatre these corps do is just to lower insurance costs.

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Hummus_Bunny69@reddit

How I look when Ive been waiting and walking around looking for someone who works there for hours … after working my butt off to get there on time. Y’all ever have workers literally pretend to NOT see your giant truck and you wandering around with a BOL

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Bullxdog34@reddit

Man. I go to this one warehouse. I have to open up the hood of the truck so they can do a detailed inspection to make sure I’m not carrying any contraband. 30 minutes atleast of a pre trip. All to fucking deliver diapers. I always tell them, bro just go work for as a state trooper already

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AmorFati071@reddit

What is BOL?

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Residenthuman101@reddit

Bill of lading, it’s the document that lists what’s being delivered, to where, and has sections to get signatures

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deathfollowsme2002@reddit

I dont drive trucks but I work the scales at a poultry rendering facility some nights see the word every day I work and STILL thought it was landing until right now.

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AmorFati071@reddit

Ok, I get the humor now. Thanks for following up. I am new here, just starting my study for CLP and starting CDL Class A school next week.

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Residenthuman101@reddit

My dad had a CB in our Rv and I drove a cab over box truck for just a few years, I barely belong here myself lol

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Freightshaker000@reddit

How i look when I'm a flatbedder and asked the same question at the gate.

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WontSwerve@reddit

I have bobtailed across the border before in a daycab and been asked what I'm hauling.

"Highblood pressure and depression".

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mikedvb@reddit

So how do I get some of that highblood presssure? I only have high blood pressure. (Sorry it made me chuckle)

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Nr_Dick@reddit

Hopes and dreams. Truckload of fresh air. Truckload of ethiopian food. Solidified government efficiency.

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Mamatiger85@reddit

Dispatcher brains

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Simple-Department-28@reddit

A friend told me his dad had been asked the same question in a similar situation, his dad had replied, “A full load of sailboat fuel.”

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davey-jones0291@reddit

(UK) i always say full to the brim with bubble wrap filler.

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SycoJack@reddit

In 2020:

Diabetes and Corona. cough cough

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savagewolf666@reddit

“Whats your trailer plate?”

Im bobtailing

“So whats your trailer plate?”

I dont have a trailer yet

“Look if youre gonna give me an attitude and make this difficult i can turn you around right now. WHAT IS YOUR TRAILER PLATE”

*points at truck without a trailer and shrugs shoulders”

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onedollarcereal@reddit

Zero, trailer is zero

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Freightshaker000@reddit

The Air Force couldn't wrap their head around the fact my federal vehicle didn't have plates or registration (USPS truck).

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WontSwerve@reddit

That's hilarious.

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OkMushroom364@reddit

I swear to god my old coworker years ago (We drove garbage trucks) had one of the most rare thing that could happen to us: Police inspection on heavy duty vehicles and the cop casually asked questions and didn't even blink when he asked ”Is the load secured?” My buddy was silent, the cop stared until minute later you could see from his face he realised how dumb question that was and just let my buddy go on his day

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Riyeko@reddit

Omg this has to be peak stupidity

They actually ask you guys if you're loaded, with a trailer you can SEE ALL THE FREIGHT ON IT?

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Casperuis495@reddit

All the time.... ive been asked empty or loaded bobtail... while they're talking to me at my window🤦🏼‍♂️

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jmzstl@reddit

I wouldn't be able to stop myself from leaning out the window, looking back, and then telling them it looks empty to me.

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Riyeko@reddit

I can't fathom this.

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Freightshaker000@reddit

I've had it happen twice. Didn't answer either time.

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DepressedDragonBorn@reddit

Delivered insulation to a home depot distribution center, that was getting some construction work done, today and the gate guard looked me in the eye while holding my BOL and asked if I'm delivering insulation.

I don't get it, what else could I be doing?

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Shadowtrail1988@reddit

Lol

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lord_nuker@reddit

My favorite answer is plutonium and uranium waste from a nuclear reactor or fuel for gliders. The amount of shocked faces and following hurry up and drive away I have got from border patrols is surprising and fun

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lofgrenator@reddit

Mine is sailboat fuel

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Freightshaker000@reddit

Motorcycle doors

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ghettoccult_nerd@reddit

blinker fluid

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RoseKlingel@reddit

I delivered a load a few days ago. At the gate, the guard asked if I was drop and hook or live unload. I said drop, but sometimes yards didn't have an empty for me so they preferred to live unload. (Plus, sometimes my dispatchers are mistaken about which one it is to start--I am corrected at the receiver.)

She was like "...So which one are you doing?" and I was like "...Drop and hook, please." 😂

She didn't understand that it was the warehouse's choice. She didn't get that it was dependent. I guess I made things too hard for her.

I'm not making fun of anyone here, but my guess is she was high...or maybe human intelligence really can be that low? She seemed healthy, she was pretty, she was normal, there was no language barrier...she just didn't understand anything beyond a binary choice. Maybe life is just easier when someone else is actionary and making choices?

I don't think I'm very smart, but sometimes I run into people and I get worried for humanity.

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RealQuadMan@reddit

First thing I always say is how’s it going I gotta delivery to make here.

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FamousPin8881@reddit

Korl! Hey Korl!

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RudeOrSarcasticPt2@reddit

Security guards and truckers get along about as well as Southern Baptists and Jehovah's Nitwits. IYKYK.

I worked in both professions so I know the rivalry between the two. As a trucker, I dealt with shitty security guards and truckers in both jobs.

The worst part as a security guard was drivers unwilling or unable to tie down loads as expected by the shipper. If you can't tie down a combine head correctly to a flat bed, you should ask, since I was also trained (by a friendly driver) on how to do it. The rule was tie it down correctly before leaving the property, or bobtail out.

The worst part of the driver side were security guards with a open disregard for drivers, including cruelty due to bigotry. This is most of them, including the ones who work for Allied Universal.

I fuckin' hate Allied Universal, and I pity any poor motherfucker that works for them.

Yeah, being on both sides of this showed me a lot of things.

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