Hometime.
Posted by Microshlongg@reddit | Truckers | View on Reddit | 51 comments
I don’t know who needs to hear this, but being regional and getting “weekends” off, when you’re actually taking a 34-hour reset, isn’t time off. It’s not even a full two-day weekend. Don’t let these companies fool you. I had to go back and forth with my fleet manager about how the 34s reset isn’t the same as the weekends off they hired me for.
Exact-Leadership-521@reddit
My boss keeps telling me they changed it to 34 from 36 and I keep telling him I changed it to 48. And keep it up and I won't answer the phone till Wednesday
polarjunkie@reddit
48 is still unreasonable. 8 pm the latest on Friday to 5 am on Monday.
mwonch@reddit
40 hour per week folks get a full 2 days, usually in a row. We do 60-70 hour weeks, and you think 2 full days is unreasonable? Why?
polarjunkie@reddit
Maybe read what I wrote again
mwonch@reddit
Maybe be more clear?
polarjunkie@reddit
Is 8:00 p.m. Friday to 5:00 a.m. Monday not precise enough?
mwonch@reddit
Okay, Zoomer
Responsible_Bill_513@reddit
5pm on Friday to 4am on Monday. I like being able to get a shower before going somewhere to eat at a REASONABLE HOUR on a Friday night.
firemarshalbill316@reddit
This is exactly how you manage your home time. Tell them what you are going to do. Don't ask.
Exact-Leadership-521@reddit
It's not even at home, I'm just parked at a truck stop or if the mechanic is free during the weekend I'll go to the shop but I'm not moving a load
firemarshalbill316@reddit
And this is even worse. If you agreed to do home time at a certain time then a 34-hour reset in Timbuktu isn't you being at home.
I literally told my dispatcher that a few weeks ago as I ran out of hours and had to do a reset on Tuesday-Wednesday. My scheduled weekend off was that weekend. They sent me to approve the days off I told them "No! This is my agreed upon week off."
They fixed it and I pressed on till Friday.
Hold your ground mate.
mwonch@reddit
LOL! This is the way.
Responsible-Sail-701@reddit
I'll rather be otr than regional with weekends home. That 34 hours only gives you enough time to wash clothes, eat good, get some cut, sleep in your own bed, then right back out. Not to mention the time you wasted fi ding parking if you terminal isn't near your home. Atlanta with otr, I get 3 to 4 days at home fully. The 3 to 4 weeks I stay out at a time goes by pretty quickly.
mutrica@reddit
They all lie
Joeybowman@reddit
Not to be that guy, but not all lie. Honestly the company I work for now advertises a lower annual income and home time than we actually receive. But I like the undersell and over deliver method personally.
Tank52086@reddit
And we keep taking the bait
SheepherderHopeful55@reddit
I drive regional and get 2 whole days off, either Saturday Sunday or Sunday Monday, One week I drive for 6 days that's when I get Sunday Monday off the week I drive 4 days and have Saturday Sunday off
Kenworthsteve@reddit
I've got it made. Friday afternoon till Monday morning...and I'm just starting a home nightly gig sane company. And can even swap back and forth if I want.
FlappyJ1979@reddit
I run regional and only work Monday morning till about noon on Friday. I sometimes get hone throughout at the week as well. Theres still decent companies out there, you just gotta find the right ones.
Pakman____@reddit
I wish I had 34 hours off every weekend. But I knew what I was signing up for. I wasn't lied to.
Reddit_Is_a_jokee@reddit
Without a partner to handle your errands it was nearly impossible for me to do shit.
Wizard_with_a_Pipe@reddit
It still sounds better than being out for 5 or 6 weeks and being home for 5 days. But I would agree, 34 hours isn't a weekend.
WilboBagggins@reddit
Got to read between the lines unfortunately, I’m starting a new job soon where you leave on a Sunday afternoon and then get back 11 days later on a Thursday afternoon before leaving on the Sunday again and they tried telling me 11 days on 3-4 days off. But now I’ve just mentally accepted it’s really 2 days off and a couple hours Thursday night and a few hours Sunday morning.
oasuke@reddit
They keep doing it because shitty drivers keep taking those jobs, then act surprised when they realize they can't do shit with 1 day off while staying out a week. What's makes it even worse is that these jobs don't tend to even pay that much so youre just wasting your damn time over nothing.
Lovicionez@reddit
I’m an OO and only work from Monday morning to Friday afternoon. I could work more to make more money, but I love my wife and kids too much :)
scottiethegoonie@reddit
It's not worth it to take a 34 like that. Stay out longer and take your 34 plus a few extra days you've banked up.
mwonch@reddit
Riiight! Standard is, three weeks away, two days off. Not all are like this, but most are. One week, 34 hours. Two weeks, same. Three weeks two days. Four weeks, three days. And they usually cap it at FOUR days maximum, no matter how long you were away.
scottiethegoonie@reddit
lol we're getting downvoted for telling it like it is
Waisted-Desert@reddit
Did they tell you "weekends off" or did they tell you "home every weekend."
Fox_Tango_@reddit
My company is a “home every weekend” company, and they told me that when I interviewed with them, and in orientation. They told us that home time could be as little as a 34 and gone, but often times our home time ranges from 45-60hrs. I’ve been with them for a little over a year now, first company, and so far they have stuck true to that.
brokedasherboi@reddit
Mind if I ask what company? Sounds exactly like my experience at Nussbaum
Fox_Tango_@reddit
It would indeed be Nussbaum.
shadowmib@reddit
When i grt "home time" its three full days (usually) but sometimes ill take four if i have some event going on.
If i dont wake up and go back to sleep ony own bed that day, then its not a home day for me
firemarshalbill316@reddit
It kills me how drivers misinterpret the rules and companies try and manipulate the rules. All rules are minimum and maximums. There is nothing saying you have to be back exactly after 34-hour reset or a 10-hour break.
Come back when you feel rested. And if this doesn't work. Write on your tablet, email or text response to your dispatcher:
"I DO NOT FEEL SAFE TO DRIVE"
The conversation will end as now there is a paper trail.
DoctorZebra@reddit
Oof. This is why I stick to local jobs. I've gotten to the age and financial standing where I value time far more than money. No amount of money ever bought a person another minute with their family.
whodatyeglic@reddit
I feel like you work for the same company as me
narrdarr@reddit
Honestly driver should petition for change. Something like. Companies drivers should get a 48 hr+ min. With o/o drivers being 34 hr min as they they usually have a bit more freedom( depending of course).
Companies forcing min/max around the clock isn't cool. And I think everyone can agree on that. And God forbid you have a doctor appointment.
mwonch@reddit
The 34 hour rule is the MINUMUM demanded by regulations, not the maximum. Somehow, companies treat it like that's all you get. 10 hours plus one day? Hell, no.
You don't go back and forth with the dispatchers. You just take the time. I do. I deliver food to HEBs in Texas. I work for an owner operator. If I'm out a night or two BUT spend at least one afternoon and evening at home, I'm happy to take just 34. However, if I'm gone all 5 or 5.5 days...FU, I'm taking at LEAST 48 hours off. The only negotiation I allow is...allow it or I walk. Period. End of story.
Burn out is real. THEY aren't going to care, but YOU must. It's your CDL. They can and will replace you if anything happens because you're too brain-fried.
Do they call me beforehand? They used to. Now? I ignore them. I told them when I'll return, so don't fucking bother me until then. If I happen to answer without looking at the phone to see their number, they never like the version of me who berates and rants at them. Have they tried "punishing" me by not having work for me when I am ready? Yep. Do that one too many times and they will end up being a job reference. I tell them that, too.
Now, the key to all that attitude is ya gotta WORK IT! I mean, you're a runner that they hate to see run out of hours. My philosophy is this: I work to live, I do not live to work. SO when I go out there, I want to get the runs done ASAP so I can go home. No sitting, no stopping for coffee too many times. Keep me running until I go home. I make them that money they can at very least give me my time. For those who "mail it in," copping this attitude is a quick path to sudden unemployment and job hopping oneself into being unemployable.
But you MUST stand for yourself. You'll likely have to do it a lot. Just do it. Tell them you WILL take that 48 minimum, so if they send you home under a load they may have to reschedule delivery. If they hate that (and some really do), find another job. With a good record and efven a little experience, it's easy to find a good place.
BB5er@reddit
I was driving OTR and home every weekend before the E log mandates. The only reason I had the weekend off was because I’d be home Friday afternoon, but my logbook wouldn’t be there until Saturday sometime.
truckeredditor@reddit
Weekends off us Friday evening to Monday morning. Anything else is a lie.
Famous-Eggplant8451@reddit
Look elsewhere, I had a problem once similar to yours. Weekends off they said, only 2 weeks out they said, take your truck home they said and when none of that came true and they fought me , I dropped the trailer in their yard, parked the rig, went home and as soon as I got paid I said I found a better job TTJASI.
jmzstl@reddit
34 is just one day off. 10 hours that you would have had off anyway to get you back to your normal start time, plus 24 more hours.
I don’t know why more people haven’t figured this out yet.
mvamv@reddit
34 is actually as little as 14 hrs at times. If you're coming home after a whole day of driving, you're most likely gonna knock out for 8-10 hrs when you lay on your bed. And you're most likely gonna sleep 8-10 hrs before going back out to be well rested. So that's really more like only 14-16 hrs of off time to do what you want.
Mindes13@reddit
If you have a family, house, yard, etc, that isn't enough time to do anything with any of it.
mvamv@reddit
Exactly. But companies don't care. They just wanna add to their bottom line at our expense.
Mindes13@reddit
They did that recently here, for us that have been here get 48 hours and those under a year get a 34.
I told them I need to go back to normal weekends of because wife's health
WolvTheHero@reddit
That’s a big reason I quit regional and went back OTR. I got burnt out coming home Friday night and going out Sunday afternoon. At least OTR I could go out for 4-6 weeks and take a whole week off at home.
LongjumpingCat6642@reddit
Home Friday, leave Sunday night by choice. I could leave Monday morning but I’d definitely drop a % in my pay, or about $200/ month
WIbigdog@reddit
Yep, did the diaryland fleet for Roehl for a while, that was almost always not getting home until Saturday some time despite being marketed as weekends off. But when I went to Halvor and was running Polaris and Can-Am SxSs I was home Friday almost every week and didn't leave until Monday. Sometimes my manager would ask if I could be out until Saturday but that was just every other month or so. There's a reason I was able to do it for four years and only left to get a normal 40 hours a week job at home.
keytiri@reddit
I’m on a regional otr account, it was sold as being able to take breaks at home, and for the people that live on routes or near customers, it’s somewhat true; of course dispatch doesn’t seem to give loads based on being able to break at home, and we’re penalized if we don’t allow enough time for problems. So the only people really able to take advantage are the few who live near receivers.
I live near the shipper, and rarely get breaks at home; the one good thing is breaks at home don’t count against our accrual of hometime, so I can still get my week off every other month.
Unique-Ad-2544@reddit
Yep it's the reason I ever refuse to go back otr