What language do most American students prefer to learn in school as a second language?
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I have seen that its common for students in high school to learn a second language, not to full proficiency but just basics. Made me curious what language do most students actually do go through with and why.
cat-kitty332@reddit
For my school the only choice was Spanish
ClearLog2014@reddit
It partly depends on what languages the high school offers. When I was in high school back in the 80s, my choices were Spanish, French and German. My kids, who went to high school in the 2010s, could take those three plus Russian, Japanese, Mandarin, and ASL.
Imaginary_Cherry7966@reddit
Mostly Spanish or French. Source: In school
chrlsful@reddit
Chinese round here (then recently they opened an emersion school).
beautiflywings@reddit
My school had Spanish & German for the major choices. Fortunately, we had one teacher that taught a 1 semester Latin course. I loved it. It helped when I took anatomy & physiology classes later.
sunnybacillus@reddit
spanish is super popular but lots of people at my school do french, ASL, chinese, or japanese
PleaseDontBanMe82@reddit
Spanish since like a quarter of the country speaks it.
RoundChampionship840@reddit
German
Yggdrasil-@reddit
Spanish for sure. French is probably the second most popular, followed by Latin, German, Chinese, etc.
Jake0024@reddit
I've heard Latin is popular if you want to go to med school (or law school)
Push_the_button_Max@reddit
I was a student teacher at the Boston Latin School (the U.S.’s oldest public high school, predating Harvard by one year) where students were required to take Latin from grades 7-12 (although they dropped the requirement for grades 7-8 right after I left).
The funniest part was that all the juniors and seniors were “fluent” by then, and I saw an entire class speak in Latin to each other in front of the math teacher, and we couldn’t understand a thing!
We were lucky that they were good kids, it would be easy for the students to stage a revolution, right in front of us!
yankeescrewdriver@reddit
If they really wanted to commit to the bit for a revolution, they could’ve thrown on togas and grabbed daggers. Might want to call out sick in mid May!
Jake0024@reddit
*March?
yankeescrewdriver@reddit
Gah. Yes March thank you ahaha
IndependentMacaroon@reddit
That's actually pretty amazing, there's plenty of people who work with Latin texts professionally that couldn't do that!
uwu_mewtwo@reddit
High school Latin is weirdos and dorks. University Latin is high-strung overachievers.
Historical-Composer2@reddit
Or people whose parents forced them to take Latin…
CahabaL@reddit
The weirdos and dorks learned their lesson and switched to Spanish or French.
Jake0024@reddit
Often the same people, just a few years older
John-Dune-Awakening@reddit
Many private schools teach Latin from elementary grades.
Gertrude_D@reddit
By private do you mean religious?
John-Dune-Awakening@reddit
Mine was, yes.
Gertrude_D@reddit
I can see why a religious school (probably Catholic?) would teach Latin.
cozybear3636@reddit
I’ve literally never heard of anyone I know taking it. And I’ve never heard of a school offering Latin. But I’m in Philly perhaps in other regions. I know some Catholic schools teach it. It’s kind of pointless. Why wouldn’t you just learn Spanish.
enancejividen@reddit
When I was in high school, the argument for Latin was that it helped you with SAT vocabulary. I took German so I don't know if it worked. But I do have a friend who did it and went on to study medieval English history at the graduate level. Since almost all documents were in Latin, it was pretty useful to him.
Jake0024@reddit
Since we're talking about med/law school I'd assume people do it during college, but I think Latin is pretty common for prestigious secondary schools too (especially in New England)
LiquidDreamtime@reddit
I went to a prestigious engineering college and it never offered Latin.
Jake0024@reddit
Yeah I wouldn't expect engineers to learn Latin either
Gertrude_D@reddit
I wanted to be a vet, so I would have absolutely taken Latin. I'm a graphic designer now though, so probably wouldn't have been as useful as I'd hoped.
Jake0024@reddit
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Gertrude_D@reddit
Yeah, but the point of that is that you don't understand it!
meowingtrashcan@reddit
that used to be the case, but when I applied to med school they didn't really favor Latin education at all. You still learn all the terms just fine without it, and knowing latin conjugation doesn't really factor in. A lot of terminology is roughly the same in Spanish due to the latin roots. You were much more attractive if you could speak medical + conversational Spanish, because that is a huge benefit to patients.
Jake0024@reddit
I can see that being a benefit for job placement, but I don't really expect med schools to care about either one for applicants
meowingtrashcan@reddit
Why do you think med schools wouldn't care about that?
Jake0024@reddit
My experience in grad school was selection committees repeatedly saying the criteria they use to evaluate candidates (GPA, school rankings, course load, entrance exam scores like MCAT) aren't good indicators of future success and they want to improve the process, but never actually changing anything
smoore1234567@reddit
As someone who graduated law school in the past five years and has talked to lawyers of various ages about whether taking Latin is helpful, the prevailing opinion seems to be that maybe it used to matter more, but now it doesn’t really matter at all if you took Latin. There’s really only a few Latin phrases you need to know (primarily ex parte, res judicata, habeas corpus, and few others) and you just need to know what they mean in the context of legal practice.
Can’t speak to how it is for med school, but my guess would be that it’s similar.
Jake0024@reddit
Yeah I don't expect it's very useful in practice, just a more popular choice for those career paths
AnchoviePopcorn@reddit
I’m an attorney that works with attorneys in the most attorney-filled city in the world. I don’t know anyone who formally took Latin.
Jake0024@reddit
DC? I don't know many lawyers, but a few of the ones I do know took Latin in school
MomRaccoon@reddit
When I was in grade school (when the dinosaurs roamed) Latin or Greek was considered necessary for applying to an Ivy League school. So I took 3 years of Latin. Spanish would have been handier.
IHSV1855@reddit
It certainly helped me with law school. It also helps a lot with picking up Romance languages. I’ve become passably proficient in Spanish, French, and Italian based on my knowledge of Latin.
paradisetossed7@reddit
Yeah, Spanish and French are usually the languages guaranteed to be offered. My high school also had Latin, but only those three. My son's high school, when he gets there, offers Italian as well. He's already been doing Spanish so I told him to stick with it. Plus it's the most useful.
endymon20@reddit
my school almost had a french program. no one wanted it.
LiquidDreamtime@reddit
Only 6-8% of high schools offer Latin. It’s not even close to 3rd.
Spanish rules by a mile. French is 2nd. German, Korean, Japanese, Chinese, and Portuguese will be regional.
endymon20@reddit
my school only had spanish, tagolog, russian, and the local native Alaskan language, the name of which would dox me.
personally, I took russian.
YardSardonyx@reddit
Really? I remember all my smartest friends took Latin because they were planning on going into medical or legal professions, I just assumed that was a normal offering. Enormous public high school in rural/suburban Texas.
invisibleman13000@reddit
Yeah, a quick Google search shows that only between 2-4% of all highschool students have taken a latin class at some point.
chilltownusa@reddit
My high school’s only options were Spanish and Latin. We all had to take one year of Latin, then you got to choose which language to take for the next 3 years. It was a Catholic school, so most of the Latin we learned was focused on religious texts.
No-Conversation1940@reddit
My high school only offered French.
Rural high school in the Ozarks with abysmal pay, but they had to have some sort of foreign language teacher, so it was about who they could get.
yellllowjaaacket@reddit
My parents made me take Latin in middle and high school and I so regret it to this day. Other options were French and Spanish.
Coldfyre_Dusty@reddit
I wasn't forced but I took it anyway, big mistake. It could have been useful, using it as a basis for learning roots and how it evolved into the romance languages. Instead it was learning a word, then the 120+ variations of that word depending on who was doing what to whom of which (if any) gender in varying quantities
HooptyDooDooMeister@reddit
I desperately wanted to take Latin, because I thought it would unlock a lot of European languages for me.
So glad my high school didn't offer it. Took French instead and don't regret that a single day.
0range_julius@reddit
The problem with Latin and Greek is that they're extremely important for people who are interested in going into literary or theological fields, and absolutely useless for anyone else. As a literature enthusiast, I would have killed for the opportunity to learn Latin or Greek and be able to understand classical literature. But it's just too niche.
velociraptorfarmer@reddit
Latin also has some use in medicine since a ton of diseases, etc are named with Latin roots.
LiquidDreamtime@reddit
Same for any science dealing with taxonomy or pharmacology.
yellllowjaaacket@reddit
Yeah, it's definitely sold as that... but I haven't found it to be that way. We focused on reading, not listening/responding, and I think not developing that skill was a huge loss.
HooptyDooDooMeister@reddit
"It's a dead language, and we're going to make sure it stays that way." Haha
IndependentMacaroon@reddit
Yes, in Latin class you learn the fossilized formal literary language while modern Romance languages are descended from what people actually spoke on the street. Of course there's still plenty of commonalities and you might get a broader vocabulary background, but any living language (least probably Romanian) would give you more than Latin for the rest.
Loud_Ad_4515@reddit
Latin sure helped with the SAT!
AthousandLittlePies@reddit
I went to a private school that taught French and Latin. Studied French for a few years and two years of Latin. My family ended up moving to South America and finished my schooling there (I'm now bilingual English/Spanish). I actually don't regret studying Latin at all - while it's not practical directly, I learned a lot about grammar in general and of course the roots of a lot of vocabulary in both English and Spanish.
yellllowjaaacket@reddit
I'm glad your experience was better than mine! I do agree that I leaned about grammar earlier in my Latin classes than my English ones but overall find that I spent so much time on a language I can't use to converse with a group of people very frustrating.
OldFoolOldSkool@reddit
Romanes Eunt Domus!
FinanceGuyHere@reddit
Ubi o ubi est meus sub ubi?
_oscar_goldman_@reddit
Semper ubi sub ubi
Upbeat-Banana-5530@reddit
People called "Romanes" they go the house?
LifeApprehensive2818@reddit
Look up this phrase plus "Life of Brian".
It's a Monty Python reference, and your questioning of the grammar is correct.
Upbeat-Banana-5530@reddit
I was leaning into the bit. It's the same question the first legionnaire asks when he sees it.
OldFoolOldSkool@reddit
Domum Domum! Please don’t cut my balls off Centurion
buonatalie@reddit
we even have italian on long island
BedbugBandido@reddit
We had Italian in New Jersey too. I'm kind of surprised to not see Italian here. Must be a northeast thing.
firedliquid5@reddit
From the northeast and we didn’t have Italian at my place. Closest was Latin
BedbugBandido@reddit
Must be a gabagool thing 🤷♀️
Hooterz03@reddit
I’m curious, what regions of the US would those other languages be more popular?
Randomredditor73927@reddit
I know this person didn't list French as regional because it is a popular second choice nationwide, but there is a regional element to it. French is more popular in Louisiana than elsewhere in the country because of its history. French is also disproportionately popular Northern New England (Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire) due to the proximity to Quebec and large number of people with French Canadian ancestry.
LiquidDreamtime@reddit
Parts of the Midwest were settled by the French as well.
LiquidDreamtime@reddit
Parts of Florida have large Brazilian populations. California has whole communities of Korean, Chinese, or Japanese immigrants, I would guess they are large and influential enough to have language programs in local high schools. There are large older German immigrant communities scattered across the eastern us.
My high school offered only Spanish, French, and German.
sweet_hedgehog_23@reddit
I imagine German would be more common in the Midwest.
_subpar_username_@reddit
parts of us with large populations of those native speakers. a lot of people who already speak the language will take it in school for easy credit
velociraptorfarmer@reddit
My school district offered Latin as a communal thing between the 3 high schools. Between the ~4000 9-12 students in the entire district, they barely managed to fill one class with 25 kids.
The only ones I knew who took it all wanted to go to med school.
Loud_Ad_4515@reddit
German was very popular in my Central Texas high school. The prevalence of Texas-German communities and celebrations likely made German the second most popular foreign language. As Texas-German has been dying a slow death, I'm certain German isn't offered as much as it used to.
Gertrude_D@reddit
y school began offering Latin in my sophmore year. I would have switched, but I already had 3 years of Spanish under my belt and wanted to continue. I don't think Latin lasted very long as an offering there - I know it doesn't exist anymore. Good idea in theory, but probably not all that practical for high schoolers.
OppositeSalamander60@reddit
Everyone forgetting ASL. It's probably second after Spanish.
BedbugBandido@reddit
I've never heard of schools offering German or Chinese but I'm sure they do. My school district in New Jersey offered Italian. Must be regional.
Opera_haus_blues@reddit
I would actually guess sign language as the 3rd most popular
GoCardinal07@reddit
Latin is much lower, but you're correct on the rest:
https://www.amacad.org/humanities-indicators/k-12-education/language-instruction-elementary-and-secondary-schools#31586
hawkwings@reddit
60 years ago, French was very popular, but I think it has faded in popularity, because it is less useful.
Gold-Vanilla5591@reddit
Latin is only offered in the ritzy private schools (from my experience)
Wermys@reddit
Would say Spanish first, then after that either French or German depending on the area of the country. I would say Mandarin should be an option at this point but was not when I was younger since China didnt' start exploding until after highschool.
ThrowAwayIGotHack3d@reddit
Definitely Spanish. Where I live specifically German is also relatively common (I also meet a lot of people in like their 60's who are fluent in German for some reason)
No-Jump4346@reddit
Spanish is going to be the number one language students go after and it's usually the default in high school in the US. Unfortunately, they only really teach European Spanish which is irrelevant for the US for the most part. They should teach Mexican Spanish or other south of the border Spanish in American schools. German was huge in my school, we even had German exchange students come here and lived with 3rd year German students, and all of the 3rd year German students went to Germany. But I would bet French is the second biggest language Americans pick during schooling.
Satsuki7104@reddit
Spanish is the most common second language as it’s probably the most useful and widely spoken language other than English in the US. I chose French because I didn’t want to learn Spanish and ended up with a teacher that was a creep that got fired that same year for his inappropriate behavior towards his female students. My second year of French was an online course because we didn’t have a French teacher anymore and at the time we were required to have two years of the same foreign language in order to graduate high school. I don’t remember any French from my two years of taking it in school and yet I picked up several phrases and words in Japanese from watching anime subbed within the first four months of watching it. Whether it’s applicable to real life situations or not is beyond me but my retention of the language is far better than my French.
Lost_in_spreadsheets@reddit
My high school offered Spanish, French, and Latin. Spanish was easily the most popular.
Prince_b1127@reddit
Spanish
FallenStorm7694@reddit
Yup, almost everyone goes for Spanish, it's essentially the only other language any of us have any chance of encountering. Some go for sign language if they have friends/family who use it, but otherwise it's just Spanish
Better_Inspector604@reddit
Hm I think this is area dependent? In major cities it’s common to have large monolingual populations! I worked in an emergency department and talked to upwards of 200 patients/night so I got pretty familiar with my community, and I’d say Spanish and English duke it out for most spoken language, but after that it’s Vietnamese (maybe tied with Tagalog ), then Farsi, then mandarin, then Korean, and tied in last place are a whole mess of other languages that I only encounter every couple hundred patients (Urdu, Tongan, Malay, etc)
on_island_time@reddit
I specifically encouraged my kids to pick Spanish because there are so many actual Spanish speakers in America, it's a useful skill to know even a little bit. You could probably argue that French is similarly useful if you live close enough to Canada or travel there regularly.
InsectHealthy@reddit
Yeah growing up in VT I encountered way more French speakers than Spanish. Lots of folks from Quebec come down to shop in the summer months
eeyoreSilver@reddit
When I was in Maine, French was a required language 3rd-5th grade. I left after then, so don't know how high up that went.
Fresh_Salt7087@reddit
Don't forget many central African countries speak French. There a lot of immigrants from DRC, etc around.
Appropriate_Shoe_894@reddit
However, English is becoming more common in Francophone Africa. Rwanda even added it as a co-national language more than a decade ago because students were refusing French classes.
acme_oo_breeders@reddit
A lot of African countries are former French or Belgian colonies, so French is widely spoken in Africa.
Appropriate_Shoe_894@reddit
Yes and in many of those countries, Frenck is a minority language mostly slowness be the educated and the elite. It's like Haiti, where Kreyol is the main language and French is spoken by less than 10% of the populace. Kreyol is actually pretty cool and taught at universities in the US.
pupper71@reddit
Yeah we have a large community of refugees from francophone Africa in my neighborhood, and I've used my very limited French with them. As bad as it is, it was better than their English.
CupcakeSeaShanty@reddit
Yep. I hike a lot in VT and NH and on at least one occasion I've said 'bonjour' more than 'hi' to passing hikers.
Wind_Responsible@reddit
Isn’t New Mexicos state constitution written in both Spanish and English because of the war?
Puffy-Cat-194@reddit
Yes, official state business can be done bilingually. It makes only New Mexico in Hawaii the two states that have a legal status for a different language. But it isn’t much used anymore. I grew up in New Mexico in the 80s and 90s, and I had friends whose grandparents from rural New Mexico didn’t speak English. Their children (my parents generation) were often bilingual, but my generation seemed to not know Spanish anymore. My elementary school gave Spanish class once or twice a week as mandatory like art and PE.
mcsangel2@reddit
That is the usual timeline for losing a language - 1st gen struggles to learn the new language, 2nd gen will be bilingual, 3rd gen will only speak the new language (but may understand some of the old one). The US has seen this happen regardless of location.
Puffy-Cat-194@reddit
True. But that is for people who immigrate to the United States. The couple of friends I'm thinking of were from families living in the same communities for up to a few hundred years. They're people who didn't cross the border, rather "the border crossed them," is how it's put in _An American Language: A History of Spanish in the United States_ by Rosina Lozano. Good book.
mcsangel2@reddit
It's actually not just the US. It happens everywhere in the world where someone immigrates to a location where they don't speak the language. It only takes 3 generations to lose the old language.
littlehateball@reddit
I'm 3rd gen for the German language and I'm the only one of the grandkids that can speak it conversationaly because I purposely made an effort to learn and continue to practice. Only my older aunties and uncles can speak just a few phrases anymore so they've pretty much lost it too.
275MPHFordGT40@reddit
As a third gen I can confirm.
Superb-Team-7984@reddit
Louisiana allows for the use of French in legal documents and legal proceedings.
MacaroonSad8860@reddit
New Hampshire uses French in the conference of governors with Canada and in some official documents
archseattle@reddit
Same with California’s. Many of the signers were also primarily Spanish speakers.
kea1981@reddit
As a native Califronian, I'm ashamed not to know this. Thanks for cluing me in! Really cool :)
Wind_Responsible@reddit
It’s one big reason why America doesn’t have a language lol
ClassicAdhesiveness1@reddit
Also native, also did not know!
archseattle@reddit
Sure, you’ll probably recognize a few of the names from city names and state parks that were named after them, Vallejo, Carillo, Domínguez etc.
Maurice_Foot@reddit
Loas Ann-guh-leese!
kea1981@reddit
Oh, I knew there were numerous California Rancheros and Vaqueros who signed, but the fact there's a Spanish language version of the document?!? 🤯🤯🤯 Mind is blown!
CalmRip@reddit
The original California Constituion (from back when Vallejo was the state capitol) was written in Spanish. An English translation was provided for the convenience of non-Spanish speakers (I really didn't want to research my term paper in the library at SJSU. The 1853 Acts of the Legislature was a wonderful diversion). I don't think the current constitution is officially in both languages, exactly, in that I think (would be happy to be wrong) that in case of conflict, the English version governs.
Most state documents are available in Spanish, English, Cantonese, and a bunch of other languages depending on the locality (the Central Valley has a lot of Hmong, LA has Koreans, I think we have Sikhs somewhere).
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SmallJeanGenie@reddit
In the sense that it's part of the US because of the war, yeah
Fabulous_Lawyer_2765@reddit
Arizona, parts of California and Colorado also were brought into the United States after the Mexican War, but don’t have Spanish as official language. Don’t even get me started on Texas.
Gushys@reddit
Many schools in New York also offer Italian
roskybosky@reddit
Yes. My nieces and nephews learned Italian and even spent time in Italy with an Italian family.
allieggs@reddit
Fairly common for Southern California schools to offer whatever other languages are most commonly spoken by immigrants there. Some schools near me have Vietnamese but don’t have French, for example. Mine had Mandarin. I’ve also seen things like Arabic, Japanese, or Korean being offered.
A lot of times these classes are taken mainly by kids who speak the language at home but need to learn how to read/write. But that’s not universal - I once worked with a guy who became fluent in Vietnamese without having any such ancestry from taking a class like that because his school offered it, and then later getting reinforcement from marrying into a Vietnamese family.
Amarastargazer@reddit
My cousin too Portuguese classes in high school. It is still a popular settling ground for those coming to Portugal, and a lot of people have Portuguese heritage.
greenmtnfiddler@reddit
You're also in New York, not Rhode Island?
AnnaBaptist79@reddit
Whereas many schools in Pennsylvania and the upper Midwest offer German
Push_the_button_Max@reddit
Italian is common in Boston, as well.
OffBeatBiologist@reddit
French is also quite useful in Louisiana, as it is the only state in the union where Spanish isn't the second most common language spoken. French immersion programs are quite common. I was a bit too old when I moved there to pick it up, but my younger sibling started learning in second grade and ended up fluent.
HappyJoie@reddit
I took French in high school. Ended up majoring in it in college. I lived in France for a few years, then worked in French companies in the US where I continued to use French daily. I've become completely bilingual, but I know I'm in the minority.
big_sugi@reddit
Spanish was never the second most common language in Hawai’i. Depending on the era, it would be either Japanese (at statehood) or one of the Filipino languages by a few decades later.
OffBeatBiologist@reddit
Sorry, I meant to say the continental US.
achilles_cat@reddit
French has been the 2nd most common spoken language in Maine for some time, arguably its prevalence has been dropping over the last 50 years. They are smaller communities in the St. John Valley where French was the prevalent language, and still is for the older population, but that is fading out.
But it's simply not true that Louisiana is the only state where Spanish wasn't the most common 2nd language until recently.
big_sugi@reddit
Yeah, that’s fair.
Odd-Respond-4267@reddit
Teaching 2nd lang should happen younger when brains learn language better.
Crayshack@reddit
Living in Maryland, I actually stumbled across more of a need for French at work than Spanish. I was tutoring college students, and for whatever reason a bunch of my students were natives of the Francophone part of Africa.
AnxiousMetal6435@reddit
You also most likely encountered lots of Haitians
sassycat13@reddit
Creole is def not French and many don’t know French. (I had a Haitian roommate in college and I speak French.)
AnxiousMetal6435@reddit
It sounds a bit like French to Americans
sassycat13@reddit
I am American 😂
AnxiousMetal6435@reddit
Ffs let me revise. Americans who don’t know a lick of French.
sassycat13@reddit
No it’s okay. I just thought it was funny.
Crayshack@reddit
No one who identified as such. Several mentioned specifically that they were from Senegal. Not saying that Haitian isn't a possibility, but I didn't have anyone confirm that.
Prinessbeca@reddit
My tiny school in rural Iowa has an almost equal number of Spanish speaking and French speaking families.
We have one French speaking family from Africa. And two Spanish speaking families. (We're a TINY school hehe). So I could rephrase that to read "we have twice as many Spanish speaking families as we do French speaking families." It's true either way.
supern8ural@reddit
where at? just curious. My housemate is African but typically she either speaks English or her native tribal language.
Crayshack@reddit
Hagerstown. Tutoring brought me in contact with quite an eclectic group of students that you wouldn't normally meet in the area. One of my African students mentioned that English was her 5th language, while she apologized for struggling with it, and I assured her that she was doing better than I would in my 2nd language (German).
supern8ural@reddit
Interesting. I have discovered that there are pockets of different populations that I'd have never known about had I not been introduced to them. e.g. for one example there's a little group of folks from Sierra Leone near Greenbelt. Didn't know that back when I lived near there.
Crayshack@reddit
I think most (maybe all) of the African students I had were from Senegal. Just another one of those random little groups that you'd never know about unless you met them.
Tia_is_Short@reddit
Likewise, I’ve encountered way more ASL in my region of Maryland than Spanish
Zivata@reddit
Are you near Gaulladet?
Tia_is_Short@reddit
Like an hour away, and I’m only a few minutes away from the Maryland School for the Deaf as well. My area has a very large Deaf population!
PrincessWolfie1331@reddit
The company I worked for in Maryland had Muslim countries as customers. Most of the upper level managers in those restaurant chains are Indian expats, so learning an Indian dialect might've been beneficial.
These days, it would be Pennsylvania Dutch.
YourOwnPunkyBrewster@reddit
Yup! I wish I had chosen Spanish. It was the most popular choice in my highschool, for sure taken by all the jocks, etc. if you considered yourself arty and unique, you took French, and if you were kinda of a nerdy outsider, you took German. Those were our only options. Spanish would have been SUPER helpful to know nowadays
Historical-Gain-1688@reddit
I took Latin in High School 🤪
YourOwnPunkyBrewster@reddit
😂 Well, I guess it might come in handy if you became a Biologist or something like that😅
MrJim63@reddit
Or a historian or Vatican librarian or vampire hunter
real_agent_99@reddit
So did I!
aurorasearching@reddit
I took Spanish, but I didn’t take it seriously because my Hispanic friends that were fluent would always argue with the teachers about how to say things. Now I wish I knew more.
YourOwnPunkyBrewster@reddit
Totally! And I feel American public school language learning is mostly vocab bingo and sentence structure that I didn’t even know what it was in English (I STILL don’t know what a past participle is….)!
aurorasearching@reddit
The other issue was 3/4 of my Spanish teachers didn’t grow up speaking it and learned Spain Spanish. My 1 teacher that did grow up speaking Spanish grew up speaking old school New Mexico Spanish, which, from my possibly totally wrong understanding, is like the Spanish equivalent of the English in the Declaration of Independence. Meanwhile, every time I’ve needed Spanish irl it’s been Mexican or another Latin American version of Spanish.
slapdashbr@reddit
I went to college in LA and now I live in NM, but I'm too gringo to speak either version
YourOwnPunkyBrewster@reddit
Oh man! Our school systems are failing us!
Logical-Pound-1065@reddit
Same. Having gringos teaching Spanish seemed a little funny to me. My mom is from Puerto Rico and would always correct the teachers. Especially when they would mark my work wrong for using a word in the Puerto Rican dialect they didn’t know about.
slapdashbr@reddit
I had an air force brat friend who was sonmad he lost valedictorian at our HS because when his family lived in Houston he took Spanish with a class full of hispanics and only got a B lol
DSepticeye@reddit
i'm canadian, most of thr country doesn't speak french outside of quebec
Nice-Fail-6202@reddit
Well the US is the second largest Spanish speaking country in the world
SincerelyCynical@reddit
And yet we have so many states like Texas that no longer require students to take a foreign language. I’ve lived here for twenty years and am still appalled by how many Texans can’t even pronounce Spanish names properly. I’m not even talking about difficult names!
How do these people live in Texas but can’t pronounce Martinez properly???
JimBeam823@reddit
It's never been required for high school graduation in South Carolina, but it is required for college admission.
BasicAppointment9063@reddit
Sometimes, when you know the correct pronunciation, you just need to take a breath and move on, like the way they pronounce Nueces River, Nevada, or Colorado.
punkass_book_jockey8@reddit
One of my parents is from Quebec. I was bribed into taking Spanish as a child. We lived close to Canada, Spanish was the right call.
JThereseD@reddit
I am the odd exception. I grew up near Philly, and I am so glad I took French because I met my French relatives as an adult and went to France several times after that to see them and travel around. I am into genealogy and use my French frequently to obtain more information about my ancestors from France and Switzerland, as well as my German ancestors whose area was under French control for several years.
madcowbcs@reddit
Canadian French is different that Parisian French for sure.
messfdr@reddit
My dumb ass took German. Every German I have met speaks English much more proficiently than I will ever speak German so they quickly switch to English because humoring my poor German is probably quite boring for them.
rotorain@reddit
My dumb ass took French. It was useful for three weeks when I went to France and sort of useful for a few days in Quebec and is wholly useless outside of that.
There's so many Spanish speakers in the US, it would have been incredibly useful to learn it in school instead of the grammarless piecemeal way I've been picking up words and phrases from my coworkers.
roskybosky@reddit
In New York, in private schools, it was all about French.
Thick_Journalist7232@reddit
You just need to know enough French to really mangle it for a few minutes to get people in Paris to affinity they speak English.
AndroidWhale@reddit
My dumb ass took Latin. Then in college I had to take three semesters of a modern foreign language. I picked Russian. I now work at a school with a majority Hispanic student body.
Tom__mm@reddit
I did too. Three of us German students in a public high school with about 1,100 kids. The irony is that I later wound up living in Germany for five years and became quite fluent. Sadly, this skill is all but useless in the US. I once got to chat up a couple of astonished Amish girls in a pie store in Lancaster county PA but that’s pretty much it.
notapoliticalalt@reddit
Meh. I think folks should look at language learning school as something interesting or fun or to expand your horizons more so than “because it might be useful”. Almost nobody who takes Spanish ends fluent or even can use it at a basic level any number of years later. And again, Spanish is probably the easiest second language to maintain, but the vast majority don’t. I took French in high school and German in college and dabble with a lot of other languages. I don’t regret it at all, even if I’m not fluent and rarely encounter people with whom it would be useful to speak.
Ameisen@reddit
Basically all of the Germans that I've ever met in America are thrilled to be able to speak German, even if my German isn't great.
Heykurat@reddit
I took German because it seemed more interesting. Also, the Spanish taught in my school was proper Spain Spanish, which is very different from the Spanish commonly spoken in California. I didn't think that would be useful.
depressed_crustacean@reddit
Reminds me of the movie Monument Men, WWII movie, when one of the characters claims to be fluent in French and every French person just stares back unresponsive. Spoiling the joke, but later it turns out he studied in Quebec and he was speaking French Canadian which is probably one of the least useful languages you could learn.
Able-Paramedic8908@reddit
We lived near the Quebec border. French was a popular language to learn.
CheesE4Every1@reddit
I learned both because of work, lol. Then some German so I could fanboy to rammstein at their last shows they'll ever do.
rococobitch@reddit
Glad to see someone mentioning ASL. In my experience across many states, school systems, and grades, Spanish and ASL were the two universally offered options. Location and demographic would determine if French or German would be offered as well.
EclipseoftheHart@reddit
In many cases in smaller & rural school districts it’s the only option as well. Spanish was the only option for me growing up, and even then we weren’t eligible to take it until 10th or 11th grade at that.
Even worse for me it was all via a teacher who called in via TV, so we didn’t have a dedicated classroom and it made it difficult to communicate with the teacher between classes since we didn’t have computers or tablets.
turdferguson3891@reddit
If you live in an urban area you will encounter a lot more than Spanish. I work in a hospital in a mid sized city. Aside from the Tagalog spoken by half my coworkers I encounter Russian, Hmong, Vietnamese, Punjabi, and of course Spanish and several others. I took German in HS', though. French and German were both available at my HS in Southern California.
notapoliticalalt@reddit
I actually do think it is unfortunate that credentialing programs for a lot of minority languages are pretty rare and these language communities often can’t be offered in public schools by diaspora community who might want them. Language attrition is usually pretty severe and by the third generation it’s usually gone. At the very least, this would give kids the opportunity to better acquire some of the language of their parents and grandparents or maintain the little of it they have.
DivineMatrixTraveler@reddit
For real I still don't understand why so many labels have French instead of Spanish
Retiree66@reddit
Spanish immersion programs are popular where I live (kids start learning it in Kinder), and many kids are already fluent because of speaking it in their homes. Our high school offered Spanish, German, Latin, French, Japanese, Mandarin, and American Sign Language.
mfigroid@reddit
Spanish is also on the easier side to learn as far as languages go.
IKnowItCanSeeMe@reddit
My school was a pretty solid divide between Spanish and French
macthecomedian@reddit
I took asl because I thought I could teach my sister some and we could be like SWAT team and communicate without speaking. Well I ended up taking multiple years of it, as did she, made some deaf friends over the years, and she actaully ended up becoming an interpretater for a few years. No one in my family was deaf, never knew any deaf people before taking those classes. Very interesting history and culture of Deafness in America, too.
Sweihwa@reddit
不。
Loud_Ad_4515@reddit
A lot of kids take ASL, especially those with learning disabilities. My son began Spanish, but if you're off by a letter in written work it changes the meaning. He switched to ASL.
In our area, Mandarin is also popular.
avicia@reddit
yeah, for my dyslexic kid mandarin chinese was easier. He's continued it in college
Loud_Ad_4515@reddit
Good to know! What, specifically, made it easier for your kid with dyslexia? (I'd love to recommend this for my son in tech.)
uhbkodazbg@reddit
It’s going to be school-dependent but Mandarin was the ‘easy’ language at my school because there was no expectation that students would become anything close to proficient whereas the standards were higher in Spanish/French.
depressed_crustacean@reddit
I have a cousin who basically spent her whole school life taking Mandarin. She was in a Chinese immersion program which basically means from first grade on she was in a Mandarin class and they would only speak mandarin
avicia@reddit
when I was reading about it, the answer seems to be the pictogram based language uses a different part of the brain. It's tonal so there's a lot of emphasis on speaking, too, which helps. Characters and spoken tones didn't hit the problems he has in english. Some people learn chinese really dependent on pin-yin (romanized letters to sound out the characters) However, the pin-yin is a lot more regular that english so even that isn't as bad.
turkeybuzzard4077@reddit
It makes sense, as of when I was in college for ASL it was considered the 3rd most common language in the US with roughly 10% of the population using it as their primary language.
BrilliantBarnacle474@reddit
My husband is mostly deaf in one ear and has a speech language disorder. He did Latin in HS and got a special dispensation to do ASL in college to satisfy language requirements!
Loud_Ad_4515@reddit
I'm so glad ASL fulfills language requirements! I don't think that used to be the case. And while it does fulfill our state requirements, I suppose some colleges may not accept ASL as a "foreign" language.
alaskawolfjoe@reddit
The move to accept ASL as a language in academia started back in the 1970s. The real push was in the 1980s and 1990s.
At this point, I do not know if any state does not accept ASL as a second language in high school or college.
Loud_Ad_4515@reddit
ASL wasn't taught in our schools in the 80s (can't speak to 90s, but I know it wasn't taught at my university).
A quick Google shows a few exceptions, but for my son's education (high school class of '21), I was told acceptance of ASL depended on the specific university or program of study. 🤷♀️
alaskawolfjoe@reddit
It is still not taught in most schools, but it is accepted as fulfilling, a second language requirement in most universities
BrilliantBarnacle474@reddit
It was not originally at our school, partly because it was taught by adjunct who were just local ASL interpreters and it wasn't a full fledged language program at this college. But the disability office signed a waiver for him and it wasn't a problem.
phicks_law@reddit
my wife has a learning disability and still remembers her ASL. Its cool to see her sign with deaf kids when she was a teacher.
Mysterious-Art8838@reddit
That’s so cool that ASL was offered
Loud_Ad_4515@reddit
His guidance counselor recommended ASL to fulfill his language requirement after he struggled with Spanish. (Though he really enjoyed the class, he just couldn't keep up with coursework.)
Currently, as a family, we are taking ASL classes. I have a son with speech challenges, so it's nice to learn ASL beyond "baby signs." It's a program through the State School for the Deaf and Hard of Hearing. We're allowed 4 semesters.
It's fascinating, because ASL was modeled after French sign language, so the grammar is quite different from English.
Tha_Sly_Fox@reddit
I went for French bc I thought it would impress girls. But don’t realize I was too lazy to actually learn a second language so I only learned enough to say “I’d like some cheese please” and sing the head and shoulders song in French.
vanillaguppy@reddit
Are you serious when you say it is the only language that anyone has any chance of encountering? I live in the DC area and I encounter as many Amharic, French, and Hindi speakers as I do Spanish
JacenVane@reddit
And one semester of Spanish has served me well in life, in that it has enabled me to say "Hola. Mi nombre es jacenvane. Uno momento, yo telefono el traductor."
nadandocomgolfinhos@reddit
One semester of Spanish - love song
jub-jub-bird@reddit
Or me after five years.
I'm oddly proud that I actually managed to understand most (but not all) of his one semester love long.
nadandocomgolfinhos@reddit
Languages are my thing and it takes a ton of time and effort. I did my homework for my class tonight and I only understood about 60% of the reading. I’ve been studying this language for 6 years and still suck
jub-jub-bird@reddit
My problem was that languages were NOT my thing but was expected starting in Jr. High by my school so I grudgingly went to Spanish class where I paid no attention, got horrible grades which I'd pull up to a barely passing grade by cramming at the end of each school year and learning nothing in the process.
And then as an adult resented earlier me for being such a lazy little shit since I've been in plenty of situations since then where knowing even a little Spanish would have been incredibly helpful.
nadandocomgolfinhos@reddit
Be kind to snotty seventh grade you. The best reason to learn a language is because you want to.
I’m a Spanish teacher and I do my best to make it fun and engaging. I was forced to teach an English class to new arrivals and I’m ready to only teach English now. It’s a different world to teach something different that all of the students see as useful and valuable. They do check out on me when we analyze literature and poetry, which I’m required to teach, but it helps that the true goal is critical thinking skills. Know and recognize persuasion tactics, look for the evidence, use your own brain to evaluate it.
byebybuy@reddit
Just chiming in to say: amazing username. And shun the frumious bandersnatch!
Hello_Hangnail@reddit
I was an honors spanish student and all I retained was "Mi perro le tiene miedo a la aspiradora." My dog is afraid of the vacuum cleaner
aurorasearching@reddit
Me gusta tortugas
Dangerous-Safe-4336@reddit
It's also the only language available in many schools.
Streamjumper@reddit
Without even trying I can run into French, Portuguese, Russian, Polish, Ukranian, and Arabic.
supern8ural@reddit
There's a lot of Asian people but none of the languages are taught in schools to my knowledge
gummi-demilo@reddit
There was one high school in my district that offered Japanese back in the late 90s
reyadeyat@reddit
The town where I grew up offered a Chinese immersion program through middle school!
sinsaraly@reddit
It’s not at all accurate that “Spanish is essentially the only other language any of us have any chance of encountering.” Yes, Spanish is by far the most common and it varies by region. But in my school district there’s around 45 different languages spoken in students’ homes. We’ve got dual immersion language programs in not just Spanish but also Cantonese and Hmong starting in elementary due to high demand. My school has significant populations of Russian, Punjabi, and Arabic speakers so I make sure to learn greetings in several languages. And in my county, balloting information is translated into over a dozen languages including Japanese, Hindi, Urdu, Vietnamese, Tagalog (Filipino), etc. I encounter plenty of different languages daily.
TruckADuck42@reddit
That's what "essentially" means. You might occasionally run into someone who only speaks some other language, but you're vastly more likely to run into someone who only speaks spanish, especially if we're talking about the US as a whole.
turdferguson3891@reddit
I work in a hospital. I encounter languages other than English and Spanish every day at work. I ought to be fluent in Tagalog by now and thats just hearing my coworkers. It obviously depends on where you live and what you do bit in urban areas there are immigrants from lots of different places.
GurProfessional9534@reddit
Japanese? There’s a lot of anime lovers out here.
Commercial-Royal-988@reddit
To answer the why part: Because this is often the only one offered, and in the few cases it isn't it's the only one that is really useful. Spanish is the #2 spoken language in the usa by a pretty wide margin. A quick google search says about 42 million people speak Spanish and #3 is Chinese with about 3.5 million.
Kitzira@reddit
Same, especially since I was in Texas where the second language is Spanish. Didn't learn enough in 2 years to hold a conversation though. Just pick out words & make an estimate on what is written.
The other options in HS where German, French, & one school had Latin for IB/Honors kids.
notapoliticalalt@reddit
This is why I just encourage people to take a language they are interested in. Most people don’t actually take the next steps to become fluent in Spanish even if they originally took Spanish “because it might be useful”. The point is about broadening your horizons and I think you will more successful do that with a language you are interested in, rather than a language you think might be useful.
Kitzira@reddit
It didn't help that the first year of Spanish was taught by a coach who barely knew Spanish himself. We didn't even get through the whole book & the class was full of disruptive classmates who arrive at school with barely a pencil.
The second year of Spanish was taught by an actual teacher who had lived in Spain. While much more educational, she was also stupidly strict. If you left one answer on your homework blank, you got detention the next morning.
DizzyFly9339@reddit
It is the second most widely spoken language in the US, so it’s the most practical choice for anyone who doesn’t have specific plans to move abroad in the future.
Feisty_Squirrel_4391@reddit
En espanol, por favor.
satellite_station@reddit
But is this their preferred one? Or are they just taking it for the “easy A”?
Adorable-East-2276@reddit
Context for this:
The US has the second largest population of Spanish speakers in the world, after only Mexico.
There are more Spanish speakers in the US than every other language besides English and Spanish combined.
fetus-wearing-a-suit@reddit
I see this stat all the time but I honestly don't trust it based on my experience, most people that claim to speak Spanish seriously overestimate their abilities
macoafi@reddit
The stat is taken from the Instituto Cervantes' El español: una lengua viva. It's on page 9. There are over 40 million native speakers (we have a LOT of immigrants!) and then about 15 million who have a non-native skill-level.
El Instituto Cervantes es la autoridad que prueba la destreza de los hablantes no nativos para otorgarnos el Diploma de Español como Lengua Extranjera (DELE). Los examenes son calificados por los profesores de una universidad en España. La Universidad de…Salamanca, tal vez? O Sevilla… empieza con S, de eso estoy segura.
fetus-wearing-a-suit@reddit
Page 11, note 2. 92% of the supposedly native speakers are people who claim they speak Spanish at home, which obviously does include lots of immigrants, but most of those would be children of immigrants, and as I said, I really don't trust their Spanish level.
Low_Computer_6542@reddit
I taught in a migrant community. We had one kindergarten class for English speaking students and 3 for only Spanish speaking students at my school. A large majority of these students were born in the United States.
I taught 6, 7, and 8th graders. At this point, many students Spanish skills had greatly deteriorated. I spoke to many parents about how speaking Spanish was a great skill especially in the workforce and encouraged them to reinforce it at home. A lot of the students didn't want to speak Spanish and needed to be encouraged to do so.
fetus-wearing-a-suit@reddit
Yep, I see this every day at work. Parents that never bothered to teach their kids Spanish and kids that aren't interested in learning it. Which is obviously also an issue for communicating with their parents. Such an easy opportunity to become bilingual and they throw it away.
random_tall_guy@reddit
I've seen this quite a bit in the NYC/Philly area among Puerto Rican parents who deliberately didn't want their kids to speak Spanish, thinking that it'd make them less of a target for bigotry. The parents were fluent or close enough in English that communication wasn't a problem with them, but sometimes it did mean that the kids couldn't talk to their grandparents and other relatives who spoke little to no English. I've also met some Portuguese families with the opposite issue, with kids born in the US but only taught Portuguese at home and they end up starting public school at age 5 knowing almost no English.
fetus-wearing-a-suit@reddit
That's actually a great way to do it. Yes, the kid will struggle at the beginning but they've already gotten the foundation for the language in the early stages of their life.
random_tall_guy@reddit
I would have guessed it could've caused issues academically and socially that would end up being a cascading domino effect throughout school, but maybe I'm just underestimating how quickly kids can pick up another language at that age.
macoafi@reddit
That's how I've seen it recommended to do it, since they pick it up so quickly at that age, and English is being reinforced by friends and the non-home/non-school parts of their environment as well. I have a buddy who spoke only Italian until he started Kindergarten.
Drew707@reddit
For my family who came here from Spain in the sometime last century, it was about assimilation. They had a rule that they wouldn't even use Spanish in the home. It was gone within one generation.
Adorable-East-2276@reddit
It’s not a perfect number, but the methodology seems sound enough. It definitely doesn’t count everyone who says “hablo un poquito de español”
If you drop it to only people who speak Spanish as their first language, the US falls to third behind Colombia, so even if we discount every second language speaker (which we really shouldn’t), the overall point still holds
fetus-wearing-a-suit@reddit
It counts people that claim they speak Spanish at home as having native-like dominion of the language, that seriously inflates the numbers
Sweihwa@reddit
Hablas Espanol?
Traditional-Ad-8737@reddit
On my area (new England), we are very close to Canada, so also French. The kids start a second language in 5th grade (middle school) in this school district, and I literally just got an email for my 4th grader who will be going into 5th to choose . We will have her do Spanish. Her choices would have been Chinese, French, and Spanish.
0wlBear916@reddit
This is definitely the only important language to learn as a student in the US. It should at least be prioritized.
Randolpho@reddit
Definitely the most popular one.
Less popular but still likely for high schools to offer and have students take are French and German
bass679@reddit
yeah in Utah it was probably 5:1 for spanish versus any other language. Herein Michigan it's not that extreme but still probably at least 2:1
phicks_law@reddit
three years for me, but I also went to high school 16 miles from the US-Mexico border, so it was very useful.
Bahnrokt-AK@reddit
Spanish and it’s not even close.
CommandAlternative10@reddit
In 2019, 70% of American high school graduates had a least one Spanish credit at graduation. French came in second with 12%. It’s not even close.
Number1AbeLincolnFan@reddit
I would also venture a guess that a significant portion of that 12% is in or around Louisiana and New England.
Bewareofmanbearpig@reddit
At my school most of the Latinos who already knew Spanish where the ones who took french.
PacSan300@reddit
Yeah, my wife is Latina, and she took French.
On the other hand, a lot of other Latinos in my school still took Spanish, which some explicitly said was so that they could get an easy A, lol.
Bewareofmanbearpig@reddit
Lol we had so many Latino students that they actually split Spanish into two classes for native speakers and first time learners. Some people would purposely bomb the placement test to get into the intro classes for that easy A.
SymbolicRemnant@reddit
Joke was on them. Actually knowing colloquial Spanish can cause some issues. Suddenly what’s been La Pluma all your life is El Bolígrafo.
TheNecessaryInfinite@reddit
Can confirm. From Louisiana, high school credits are in French. Took it most of my life. Can't speak it lol
BlueFuzzyCrocs@reddit
There are some very French communities in a lot of places that get overlooked. Madeline Island and Isle Royal in Lake Superior have a lot of French Speakers. The area was settled by French fur traders and a few communities up here clung onto that. I'm sure there are a lot of similar stories that I haven't heard about too
telemajik@reddit
I think a lot of it has to do with finding teachers to fill the position.
I went to high school in Colorado and it was about 70/30 split of Spanish to French (taught by the same teacher, who also spoke Italian). I took French just to be different, but have only used it in trips to France.
I’m now learning Spanish on my own because every day I encounter people who only speak Spanish whereas I basically never run into French-only speakers.
mercurialpolyglot@reddit
Louisiana specifically has state funding for getting French programs in schools, so it really is a supply thing. Our native frenches and creoles were killed by the Louisiana government banning French in schools like 100 years ago and then in the seventies they went, “oh no! Our culture!” And created those programs to try to bring French back. It’s not really working in terms of bringing back French in Louisiana but I think something like 5,000 kids are enrolled in public school French immersion programs right now so that’s pretty cool.
brzantium@reddit
I'm you but in Texas
SteelGemini@reddit
We had the options of Spanish, French, and German. Hardly anyone took German and it was dropped midway through my high school years.
Like you, I took French to be different. Our teacher was the sole French teacher, compared to 2 or 3 Spanish teachers. I don't even know who taught German while that was available.
And yes, I wish I'd just learned Spanish. Knowing a smattering of French, while living in California, is useless.
trudge@reddit
There used to be a focus on Spanish, French, and German, I think because those were the big three Western Europe languages. Like, in the boomer generations and earlier. I remember hearing the phrase "learn German because it's a business language" from my grandparents.
Now I think schools just whatever languages they can find teachers for, which is usually Spanish + whatever else.
dirtyjew123@reddit
My school in Kentucky had 3-4 Spanish teachers, one French, one German, and one Japanese teacher.
Gertrude_D@reddit
My cousin was a language teacher in the midwest who mainly taught French (he was qualified in Spanish too). He took another job and ended up using his French everyday because co-worker was from an African country that was colonized by the French, so that was his native language. He didn't speak mush English, so the cousin was hugely helpful to him. Obviously not a common use case, but I thought it was funny. :)
GreenBeanTM@reddit
I’d bet most come from Louisiana. My middle school and high school split a French teacher, but she left my freshman year (2015-16) and as far as I’m aware they still don’t offer French.
Truth be told, I don’t actually know if at this point they have any in person language classes. The Latin teacher left at some point after I graduated in 2019, and my Spanish teacher left about a year ago.
SoStarstruckk@reddit
I’m in Virginia and French is taken by a lot of my friends.
brzantium@reddit
This is my experience. I worked for a New England based company up until recently and most of my coworkers up there took French in high school.
Ladybeetus@reddit
In New England, they are begging the kids to take French. Spanish is way more popular in my town
Khpatton@reddit
Interesting. My high school in Georgia was a pretty even split between Spanish and French, with German not far behind. My sister’s school (different from mine) only offered French.
xmodemlol@reddit
In California teaching French is common. It's partly out of momentum, partly as a language for kids who already speak Spanish.
PitchLocal8326@reddit
Yeah we have 2 French called per grade, with only one teacher. I’d say around 30% of the students at my school do French and the other 70% do Spanish.
sneeds_feednseed@reddit
Yeah I grew up in Maine and the Spanish:French ratio at my school was probably 2:1, at least at the lower levels
RickySlayer9@reddit
My school in CA offered French and Japanese, but Spanish was 10x larger
ChemicalCat4181@reddit
Also in CA we only had French and Spanish. There was one French teacher and 4 Spanish teachers. I think the French teacher also got let go my last year because the school was dropping French entirely.
CommandAlternative10@reddit
Not really. I analyzed the data a bit. Of all the French students in the US, 8% are in CA, 8% are in NY, 6% are in TX, 5% in PA, 5% in GA and 5% in FL. Of course this is just a list of big states that have more students overall. Where it gets interesting is comparing the percentage within a state. Only 8% of foreign language students in TX take French. In CA and NY it’s 12%. Ohio is 15%, Louisiana is 21%, Massachusetts is 23%. You can absolutely see regional variations there.
PacSan300@reddit
Graduated 10 years earlier, and the stats would have likely been similar. In my school, I was part of the majority who took Spanish (which was probably closer to 85%, honestly). My wife, on the other hand, is among the relatively few who took French.
SabresBills69@reddit
break it down by states
Practical-Ordinary-6@reddit
We should probably explain that part of that is not just the prevalence of Spanish speakers but the belief among students (at least in my day) that Spanish was the easiest, relative to French and German, which were the other very common options in my time. Deserved or not, lots of people made the decision on which language to take based on that.
sneradicus@reddit
Damn, I actually guessed the order of this perfectly.
SymbolicRemnant@reddit
Yo estudié español por dos años y completé una clase de verano en el colegio de la comunidad. Español es la idioma segunda favorita de estudiantes estadounidenses.
我也学了一点中文
I am sure I have made errors in just these three sentences, which shows that even for those with enough initial interest to take two language classes, our system for it is flawed and we get away with a lot for being the current global lingua franca.
FitResearcher9285@reddit
Spanish.
Key_Swim9467@reddit
French is the only option in some northern Maine schools
ElevatorOrganic5644@reddit
ESL
Lonely-Attitude1304@reddit
English
nte52@reddit
New Hampshire offered French, Boston, MA suburb offered Italian and south Florida Spanish.
Emergency_Cow_2377@reddit
Spanish. Most likely because we are often going to encounter Spanish speakers more. I’ve been trying to become proficient on and off for years lol. If I had to guess another language maybe French I’ve just heard that often as well🤷🏾♀️.
No-Lunch4249@reddit
Spanish, followed distantly by French and Latin
wolfmann99@reddit
I haven't seen Latin offered outside of Universities. Spanish, German, then French in my area. I believe it varies greatly by region, I know my boss' kids (he lives 2 days drive away from me) went to a school where they only spoke Mandarin (boss and his wife had no Asian genes to speak of so it wasnt cultural).
Tizzy8@reddit
I think this must be regional. Latin is very common in Massachusetts.
Inside-Dare-8842@reddit
My very poor high school only offered Spanish and Latin. I think it just depends which teachers are in the area.
yellllowjaaacket@reddit
My public high school offered Latin too. Definitely less popular than Spanish or French but it was an option.
MacaroonSad8860@reddit
My public high school offered Latin, Spanish, and French. I took two years of Latin and two years of Spanish - very grateful for the basis for language learning that it gave me, I only wish I’d started even younger
ForestOranges@reddit
I don’t know if the public schools in my area offer Latin but several of the private schools do. My dad graduated high school in a major US city in 1980 and he took Latin, I don’t even think Spanish was an option for him back then.
mab220@reddit
Classical Education favors Latin, and is becoming more popular. My girls go to a private classical school and it offers Latin. But there are some local classical charter schools near us that also have Latin as the only language elective.
kittykalista@reddit
My high school offered Spanish, French, German and Latin, but very few people took Latin. It was a fancy private school, though.
gummi-demilo@reddit
My public HS in New Mexico had a Latin class. The teacher was also in a ska band
OppositeSalamander60@reddit
ASL is definitely more common than German or Latin.
BoardAuthority@reddit
Japanese
MonarchGrad2011@reddit
My grandfather was a first generation American. He was raised speaking Italian. He learned English once he got into first grade. (No kindergarten back then.) He took German as his foreign language, because that was the language of science then. He wanted to be an MD. While in college, war with Germany, Italy, and Japan broke out. The powers that be made Latin the language of science.
He was fully trilingual when got to college. He lived a long life and had a great career in higher ed. Before he passed away, he could communicate in about half a dozen languages - Italian, English, German, Latin, French, and Spanish, the latter two being via my grandmother's career in education. She was an ESL teacher and administrator. I'd also add that he could probably understand Portuguese, as that is similar to Spanish and Italian.
Astrazigniferi@reddit
Spanish is most common. Partly because there are many Spanish speakers that live here but also partly because it’s the language most commonly offered at school so it’s easy to access. Languages offered in school tend to be very Eurocentric and often include Spanish, French, Italian, German, and maybe Japanese or ASL. Mandarin would be useful for people going into tech and business, but it’s not common in schools. People who want to learn it, or any other less popular language, generally learn it from a private language center.
Puddin_McPippi@reddit
Learning Spanish in the US is just practical. If a student already speaks it, I would recommend that they pick a different one and potentially become trilingual into adulthood. ASL feels like a superpower, but personally I fancy and wish I could speak French. German and Mandarin would help you stand out professionally in the US maybe, as well as Korean.
-RedRocket-@reddit
French is the classy option. Spanish is the practical one.
littlecloudyskye@reddit
Spanish and it’s very useful even as a Midwest Ohioan.
ChiSchatze@reddit
I took Spanish, Latin, then one year of German (ugh.) How’s my Spanish today? I can say pants!
Justthisgal@reddit
My kids take Chinese. I think Spanish and Chinese are the most popular at their school. I took French, but that was ages ago.
IndicationSevere8992@reddit
It’s not really about “preference”, most schools will only offer Spanish and/or French, so you just have to pick one of those. Most people pick Spanish where I grew up because it’s more common and the phonetics are more familiar. French might be more common the closer you get to Canada. If it were up to me back in high school, I would’ve been learning Japanese.
AccursedQuantum@reddit
A large margin go for Spanish, especially in the southwest. In Louisiana, French is most common. When I was in high school (late 90s) the Hispanic population was much lower and there was less of a clear choice; my high school offered the two mentioned as well as Latin and German. I went with German because it was closer to English and figured it would be easier.
eeyoreSilver@reddit
I took Latin, because the little bit you learn isn't going to make you proficient, and no one will ever expect me to make conversation.
Junior_Ad_7613@reddit
At my school in the 1980s the options were French and Spanish, folks split fairly evenly for the beginner classes but the ones who stuck it out all four years tended to be the ones taking French (that teacher was pretty awesome). At my kid’s school (graduated a couple years ago) the options were Spanish, French, Mandarin. I think French was the least popular of the three but could not tell you the split.
elliot_esl@reddit
spanish by a huge margin, and it makes sense given proximity and practical utility
what's interesting from a teaching perspective is that most american students reach a very low ceiling — they study spanish for 3-4 years and leave barely conversational. the instruction model is the issue more than the motivation
LilacOn_Green57934@reddit
Spanish- I’ve watched German, Latin, and French disappear over the last 20 years. Interestingly, American Sign Language is our #2; there is a very large deaf community in the county.
leemcmb@reddit
The answer to your question is Spanish. But i studied both Spanish and French in school. In some areas of the country, maybe german?
powerofdeathx@reddit
a lot of students are forced to learn spanish, but they dont really prefer it, i know a lot of students would rather learn something like ASL over spanish, but options are limited and they dont really offer ASL classes
roskybosky@reddit
For me it was French.
94grampaw@reddit
Spanish by far, any other language is a waste of time, out side of ASL
Perplexio76@reddit
I grew up just south of the NY/Quebec border so French was more popular in my school, but I took Spanish. They only offered French and Spanish in my school.
I'm raising my kids in a more popular area so they have a few more choices. My daughter is taking ASL (American Sign Language) as her foreign language.
Uxslws@reddit
Were there alot of native French speakers in that part of NYS?
Perplexio76@reddit
It's hard to say as there were a lot of people that were fluently bilingual. They'd speak English with no discernible accent and then they'd make a phone call to a friend or family member in fluent French.
After I left the area I realized I had the same accent in English they did. It was slightly Canadian. That is to say that region of NY picked up some Canadian English pronunciations and some American English pronunciation and inflections. I drive my wife a little crazy when I choose to lean back into a Canadian accent as it comes with ease.
Genepoolperfect@reddit
I love that they offer ASL for your kids! I took it in college.
imalittlefrenchpress@reddit
My daughter took ASL in college, even tho she grew up around a lot of Spanish speakers.
When my grandchildren were pre verbal, she would speak and sign to them, and they’d attempt to sign words they couldn’t yet speak.
Genepoolperfect@reddit
We call it baby sign! Our daycare sent out basic signs they were using in class and we picked up on it at home.
imalittlefrenchpress@reddit
Oh that’s so cool!
SnowOverRain@reddit
I'm surprised more people haven't mentioned ASL. They started offering classes at my middle school (it was a performing arts charter school) and my best friend took it and now 20 years later she works as a translator.
IsbellDL@reddit
Honestly, I think a lot of us that are only mildly familiar with ASL forget that it really is a separate language & not just "English with your hands." It's something I'm aware of, but I definitely didn't grasp that reality as a kid in scjool.
Environmental_Cry_35@reddit
The amount of comments for Spanish makes me think I need to switch from german learning to Spanish. Need to have a conversation with my tutor Skye
distrucktocon@reddit
Spanish is the default. French and German are the two other most popular languages.
I was an idiot and took Latin.
triggerhappymidget@reddit
I took four years of Latin. I credit it with helping me get a 1550 on the SATs (particularly an 800 English score) which helped me become a National Merit Scholar which turned into a full ride to undergrad.
So Latin's not necessarily useless, but it's definitely a narrow benefit mainly contained to the academic world whereas Spanish has a much wider every day use.
TarheelCroatInMA@reddit
800 English score and took Latin too, just sayin’….
Only got a lowly 1500 though, get a load of Mr 1550
MacaroonSad8860@reddit
800 English score, took Latin too!
dragon-queen@reddit
Well Latin could be helpful as a base for learning a lot of other languages. Or for being a doctor.
Ameisen@reddit
Not... really.
The Romance languages have diverged a lot in terms of pronunciation, grammar, vocabulary...
It would effectively be like learning early Old English in order to learn modern English.
stiletto929@reddit
Or a lawyer. But Spanish would still have been much more helpful.
dragon-queen@reddit
Yeah, when I think further, I think most doctors or lawyers would benefit a lot from knowing Spanish. Latin is helpful for their profession, but not as helpful as Spanish.
fleemfleemfleemfleem@reddit
I teach at a med school, and I think knowing latin is overrated as preparation.
There are definitely some latin words, but you'll be taught most of what you'll need to know as you go. All the exam materials are in English and you're never actually speaking or reading latin.
Spanish would help communicate with a lot of patients, so it has a lot more overall utility. Since Spanish is mostly a vulgar latin with some arabic thrown in here and there it should also help with recognizing the occasional Latin root or suffix.
distrucktocon@reddit
I told myself the same thing but it really hasn’t been that useful. I’m in STEM.
Normal_Tower9071@reddit
I somehow ended up as treasurer of Latin honor society and now I maybe remember 3 things from the 4 years of latin
MarkNutt25@reddit
Let me guess: "e pluribus unum," "veni, vidi, vici," and "Romani ite domum."
Komnos@reddit
"People called Romans, they go the house?!"
turquoise_amethyst@reddit
Well if you ever want to learn Spanish, the Latin helps immensely with root words
distrucktocon@reddit
I’m learning Spanish now. It helps a little.
VorpalBunnyTeef@reddit
At my school Latin was taught by an old hippie and was considered an easy A, so all his classes were a mix of lazy slackers, and people who planned to go into law or medicine. It was odd.
PA_MallowPrincess_98@reddit
Why is this so accurate across the board???😂😂😂
PA_MallowPrincess_98@reddit
Latin 1 & 2 was an excuse to get out of Spanish 3 & 4 and the class was by another teacher who was worse than the Spanish 1 & 2 teacher. Latin was somewhat helpful for the SATs though😂
Any-Concentrate-1922@reddit
I took French because it's a beautiful language and a lot of my friends were taking it. Should have taken Spanish.
WarrenMulaney@reddit
Has anyone said “Spanish” yet?
YeLocalChristian@reddit
It doesn't seem like it. This is a pretty unusual contribution. Are you sure?
sophiefevvers@reddit
Grew up as a Latina in a Mexico-Texas Border city. I grew up knowing Spanish, so when high school came, I decided to do French because it was an unfamiliar culture for me. It was fun, we got to watch French movies, and even had a crepe party at the end of the year.
YeLocalChristian@reddit
I'm Latina (and Anglo) and grew up fluent in Spanish too, and I also wanted to learn French in high school. But it seems everyone else had the same idea, and the French classes were filled to capacity by the time I picked my language course. So I went with German instead. Then in college I continued learning German. Ich bin glücklich.
Puzzled-Bench2805@reddit
Ok that’s really respectable. I took spanish because I knew it 😂
Chronic_Iconic_Lady@reddit
Husband took spanish thinking he could learn how to speak to his family, and get help on homework easier. Turns out none of them speak the Spanish taught to him in school.
sophiefevvers@reddit
Knew classmates who learned that the hard way 😂
StretchJazzlike6122@reddit
Did you find French not so hard with your foundation of Spanish? I’m a native Portuguese speaker and French wasn’t so hard as I expected
sophiefevvers@reddit
Yeah, I think my background in Spanish helped a lot, especially with the way French is structured. I think the hardest for me was tripping up on verb tenses.
killersoda@reddit
I think any language is easier to learn (as an English speaker) when they use the roman alphabet.
StretchJazzlike6122@reddit
Not related to French but imagine if you did take Spanish in HS after growing up in a Spanish speaking household 😂😂
Do yourself a favor and look up “Marcelo Hernandez Spanish class” on YouTube. You will 💀
StretchJazzlike6122@reddit
I saved you the trouble of searching
https://youtube.com/shorts/_BKkkSVLKS0?si=dj8kRwYdy8E3vru5
sophiefevvers@reddit
Hahaha, this is perfect.
IndependentMacaroon@reddit
French tenses are just about a strict sunset of Spanish ones though?
sophiefevvers@reddit
Spanish has a more regular pattern to their tenses for me to follow. French irregular verbs were a learning curve for me.
StretchJazzlike6122@reddit
I only learned French via Duolingo and YouTube. My purpose was to vaguely understand French music (which I loveee). Didn’t need to be fluent, just enough to get the general point of songs. And I did just that! ❣️
Now I read shampoo bottles for fun to practice my French 🙃😂
Yea I didn’t get to the confusing grammar verb tenses yet. :)
NirvanaFan01234@reddit
I did just the opposite. I took 5 years of French in high school and was decent at it. I was never a native speaker, but I could hold a conversation fine. I decided to take Spanish for a semester in college. I was definitely quicker to pick it up than people that never took a language.
nadandocomgolfinhos@reddit
r/suddenlycaralho
GoCardinal07@reddit
So French is your third language.
sophiefevvers@reddit
Yup. Only basics though.
loudasthesun@reddit
Grew up in California where ~40% of my school was Mexican-American/Spanish-speaking, and French was what a lot of the Spanish speakers took too.
Everyone else who didn't already speak Spanish at home definitely leaned toward Spanish though.
bugzzzz@reddit
Yeah there's a difference between preference and what actually happens. What's offered at the school, parent pressure, etc might dictate more than student preference.
Hot_Salamander4990@reddit
Spanish and French
SmilingHappyLaughing@reddit
Most prefer to not learn a language but are required to
cheekmo_52@reddit
In my junior high, they offered French or Spanish classes. In my high school they also offered German classes. If I had to guess, I imagine most Americans study Spanish. Given our proximity to Central and South America, and our reliance on predominantly spanisg speaking migrant workers in our agricultural industry, that is the language you are most likely to encounter in America, apart from English. So it makes sense that more Americans would elect to learn Spanish than any other language.
sics2014@reddit
Spanish was mandatory at my k-12 school starting in Kindergarten (age 5).
the-coolest-bob@reddit
I wish they woulda done this to me
q0vneob@reddit
Same. I took 4 years of German in HS and another high level course in college and never spoke it again. Both class trips to Germany got cancelled due to 9/11 and the war in Iraq.
I pretty much only remember the nonsense lines from WW2 video games today, which is not particularly useful.
the-coolest-bob@reddit
I took three years in HS. Almost the same story
imalittlefrenchpress@reddit
I had three years of German in private school. I moved to a Puerto Rican neighborhood in NYC when I was 14.
Yo puedo leer y entiende español, y escribe un poco. I struggle with getting out of present tense, but I’m comfortable enough to speak to native speakers.
In German I can say, Ich nicht spreche Deutsch, und I can count to 99. I forgot what 100 is.
I didn’t choose to learn Spanish, I chose to understand and communicate with my friends. That made so much easier.
gummi-demilo@reddit
Arizonan here and we didn’t even get this
imalittlefrenchpress@reddit
I could tell when I lived there. People seemed surprised that my red haired, blue eyed ass understood Spanish.
(The rest of me understands it pretty well, too)
gummi-demilo@reddit
We had a boy in my first grade class who came straight from Mexico and spoke no English. I remember chasing him around the playground saying “señor, señor” because that was the only Spanish I knew outside of counting to ten because of Sesame Street and he thought it was very funny
No-Document-932@reddit
All US schools should be doing this
butterbean8686@reddit
Can you imagine how divisive that would be? We’d never hear the end of it on Faux News.
peterpeterllini@reddit
Right lol my first thought was “with this administration?”
imalittlefrenchpress@reddit
That’s even more reason to push for it. It may not happen right away, but there’s no reason to stop asking for it.
peterpeterllini@reddit
oh I don’t disagree!
cohrt@reddit
Why?
imalittlefrenchpress@reddit
¿Porque no?
No-Document-932@reddit
Because it’s much easier to learn a language at a young age and the point of school is to learn. Why wouldn’t someone want the next generation to be more multilingual?
AuntieWatermelon@reddit
i’m so jealous. did you go to a private school? nobody i know in mass got to take a language that early. i started in 7th grade and by then its already a lot harder. but we had a choice of french or spanish in middle school, and then in high school we had those 2 plus mandarin, italian, and latin.
sics2014@reddit
It was a public charter at the time.
JoeyJoeJoeShabadooSr@reddit
Massachusetts as well! I am not fluent but I speak at like a B1-2 level and talk with my coworkers in Spanish all day long. The earlier you get exposed the better
zenmargarita@reddit
Same in Jersey. Then in 8th grade you could pick Spanish, Italian, French or German to continue through HS
DeeVons@reddit
I wish we did this! I live in Southern California and we started at I think 8th grade into HS
PA_MallowPrincess_98@reddit
I wish my school did this!
rsj1360@reddit
That must have pissed off the conservatives. For … reasons …
John-Dune-Awakening@reddit
Yes, because the Spanish speaking population is famously not conservative. Lmao
Embarrassed_Fig1801@reddit
I wish my school had been like that. We have some immersion programs now in California but I’m not sure if we have any immersion schools. We probably do, I don’t know a lot of people with school age kids.
acme_oo_breeders@reddit
French is taught a lot, also German, Japanese, Italian, and Mandarin, and some Native American tribes have classes for their ancestral languages. but Spanish is by far the most commonly taught.
pixienightingale@reddit
I wanted to learn Mandarin, ended up in French, but probably should have taken Spanish LOL
Ravenna178@reddit
Most schools only offer a choice of Spanish or French, so it's not like kids have a wide range of choices. Spanish is most popular because it's much more commonly used in the US and it's easier than French
schoolydee@reddit
japanese
chesbay7@reddit
I took German for 3 years because some of my ancestors were German but took Spanish in my final year because we have a large Puerto Rican community in my area. Spanish was more practical.
Leoliad@reddit
Spanish
TheTuxedoKnight@reddit
Spanish.
But bear in mind that foreign language education are more of box-checking, compliance exercise rather than actually being competent in the language.
Not_A_Crazed_Gunman@reddit
This is what it was like to learn French as an English speaking Canadian. After learning more on my own, it actually pisses me off how much time they wasted on teaching so little.
bull0143@reddit
It depends on the school. I mean yes you will learn the academic version of the language and not much slang, but you could still be fluent by your junior or senior year of high school.
IsbellDL@reddit
Yeah, an introduction to the concept is really all that's realistic for 30-45 minutes a day for a few months. II took 2 years of Spanish. I can sound out words well enough, ask a few basic questions, & maybe understand the dumbed down answers. I was nowhere near conversational when it was fresh. My retention 25 years later is laughable.
I've recently decided to start learning Japanese in my free time. I consume enough Japanese media that I couldn't stand nor knowing. I haven't tracked my time, & self guided learning has its own issues. That said, I'm sure I've pur more time in over the last year than I had in both Spanish classes combined. I'm not remotely fluent in Japanese yet either, but I've made significantly more progress than I did with Spanish. And that's despite having to also learn entirely new character sets. The typical high school just can't devote the time needed to make real progress.
r2d3x9@reddit
I took French. What a complete waste of time!! I was told you had to take a foreign language to get into college. Which is completely false. I should have taken Italian, then I could have practiced with my neighbors
thekins33@reddit
you get 2 options spanish or french in most schools so uhh pick one i guess?
PureMichiganMan@reddit
Spanish and French are really the only two I remember friends learning in school.
Snarleey@reddit
In the US, not every public school student is funded equally.
Public school funding is based on property taxes from each specific school district. If you live in a nice neighborhood with nice houses and fancy businesses, your school gets more funding. Thanks to the “great white flight” in the US when people of color moved into the cities and the rich white people fled to walled and gated neighborhoods in the suburbs, neighborhoods are very segregated.
Uneven school funding is an intentional strategy to fuel the cycle of poverty in the US.
What I’m saying is, rich schools have a wider array of language classes from which to choose. Most schools just offer Spanish and French. Rich neighborhoods’ schools offer those and more, like Latin, Italian, Mandarin, Portuguese, and Russian.
Most students just take Spanish.
tasukiko@reddit
Spanish. Although I took French and my sister took German. And everyone I knew would have preferred to actually take Japanese but it was never offered.
meganemistake@reddit
I went to three highschools in north texas and Spanish FOR SURE lol
That's also usually the only language offered in not only every highschool but most junior high/middle schools. Depending on the area you might start in like 1st grade (when I lived in south texas, i had Spanish class in 1st grade lol)
The second most common language offered seems to be French (which i took 3 years of in highschool because it was the "smart kid" language class lol)
2 of my high schools offered German? Some kids took it but the vaaaaaaaast majority took Spanish.
Secure-Ad9780@reddit
Most American schools have a limited choice: Spanish, French, German.
jittery_raccoon@reddit
Most people choose Spanish.
A lot of schools only offer Spanish and French. So French is 2nd
Some schools offer German or Italian because there were a lot of native speakers of these languages at one point when the school program was decided. Still around in some schools, but less common. Latin is also seen depending on the school.
Japanese and Chinese are rare, but exist at some schools as there is some interest.
You'd be hard pressed to find any other language popular enough to be offered as a class
Avbitten@reddit
my school offered spanish, german, french, latin and American Sign Language. You needed 3 years of a foriegn language to qualify for an advanced diploma. ASL didnt count because it wasnt "foriegn" but latin did which i always found annoying. ASL didnt count torwards ANY graduation requirements which discouraged people from taking it.
Baseball3Weston12@reddit
Spanish or French, but Spanish wins by far
Krakenzmama@reddit
Spanish. I was always a little different and my family is of German descent so I took 3 years old German after one year of Latin. I don't regret it one bit
FlyingSpacefrog@reddit
My school offered Latin, Spanish, German, and French. Spanish was by far the most popular of the four, and Latin the least popular. German was second place until they fired the German teacher because he was having sex with one of his students. Then we just didn’t have German classes at all my last year in high school.
dancingonmyown29@reddit
I learned French but it was a waste of time lol. Would have been better off with Spanish. Even in Mississippi where I'm from everything is in Spanish and English lol
Artistic_Cheetah_724@reddit
Spanish.
When I first started working, I worked in an area with a large Hispanic community, and it would have helped me and my customers so much. As I worked there, I caught on to basic words, but I took 4 years of French and have yet to actually use the language, even when I went to France I spoke English.
ImmediateAd7069@reddit
We don't generally have choices. My 4000 student high school had Spanish, some French, and a single class for German. My brother signed up for Spanish and got placed in French.
reaper2161@reddit
Our school offered Italian and Spanish for a while, but due to funding cuts, they stopped offering Italian. Those who had signed up for Italian when the change was made were placed into Spanish regardless. Only a year was required, but you could take a second year as elective courses.
Tim-oBedlam@reddit
Spanish is the most common, and the most useful in the USA.
Avelsajo@reddit
I live in Texas. Most people take Spanish, and so did I. I had a few friends who took Latin to help them on the SAT, but I went for the language you can actually speak with living people. My oldest is doing American Sign Language. It's been really cool and interesting!
RoseKlingel@reddit
I wanted German but my HS only offered Spanish.
I took German in college.
Tea_Eighteen@reddit
I got to learn Japanese. :D
chivopi@reddit
I had 9 years of Spanish and 8 of French by graduation.
Lady-Kitnip@reddit
Spanish is the most practical within the US.
Mandarin is sometimes chosen by people going into business.
Normal_to_Geek@reddit
Spanish, but ASL should be heavily encouraged as well.
SoftLast243@reddit
Spanish makes the most sense for the average person who stays in the U.S.
Hanable-13@reddit
My school only had 2 options. Spanish and French. I took French but Spanish was ALWAYS full with multiple classes.
RealityExciting2914@reddit
English
pippintook24@reddit
In my school you had a choice between Spanish and French. most of the students chose Spanish. for some ( the ones who were already fluent in spanish) it was an easy grade, for others it was necessary because we were a predominantly Hispanic area.
pill_oh@reddit
most schools around me offered german, french, or spanish. I learned french, mostly everybody chooses spanish. nobody tends to pick german and I saw a lot of schools drop german. spanish is what I assume is the second most common language in the u.s. so you can actually have a chance of using it compared to french or german.
RavenRead@reddit
I wonder why all high schools globally don’t teach kids Chinese, Spanish, English, Hindi, and Arabic. Those are the most common, aren’t they? Far more useful than French or German.
Aquarius_K@reddit
Spanish and ASL but people overlook Portuguese and French.
Fair-Flower6907@reddit
Our district only offers Spanish, French, and Japanese (large local population). I wish they still offered Latin, I'd push my kids to take it (like I did) so that they could learn a living language and medical/scientific/legal terminology more easily in college!
Fun-Yellow-6576@reddit
Most Americans DON’T learn a second language.
SapienWoman_@reddit
Usually Spanish. I studied French. My kids studied Mandarin.
Efficient_Wheel_6333@reddit
I went with French in high school for several reasons.
It was one of two foreign language options available, the other being Spanish.
I had 7 years of Spanish in grade school (I went to Catholic schools from k-12th grade; high school was high school, but while my k-8 schools were often called elementary schools, they were k-8s and a lot of us just called them grade school. Not sure if it's a regional thing or unique to schools that are k-8s, if not a mix of both) and so, was sick and tired of it, as we'd be going over the stuff we'd gone over in grade school.
My dad had learned French as his second language and, due to the fact that he'd died when I was a toddler, I'd not learned much of it growing up beyond what my mom had taught me (she'd also taken French in school; not sure if it was in high school or at the college level).
No_Dragonfruit_9656@reddit
My school only has German and French. I opted for French because Canada isn't that far.
BrumblebeeArt@reddit
Most schools only offered Spanish or French when I was growing up (think it's pretty much the same nowadays, I'm just shy of 40). In the US, Spanish is really the only useful second language unless you have an immigrant family member speaking something else (in which case they probably taught you, and within 2-3 generations will mostly likely be completely lost) or you're planning to move to another country.
The real drawback is they typically don't start the classes until middle school (6th-8th grade) so it's a million times harder to begin learning a second language for the first time when you've already hit your early teens. The foundational brain wiring isn't there. Many continue into high school, some into college, but there are ways around the requirement in later school such as taking art classes instead (which is what I did.)
When you can travel over 100 miles in any direction and still be in the same country (like for me in Chicago) where 90%+ of the people speak the same language, it's hard to be motivated as a teen to learn a new one, and when we hardly ever use it, a lot of what we learn fades away. Plus US classrooms teach European Spanish rather than Mexican Spanish (Theresa been divergence over the centuries), so it's not as useful for us.
Bluemonogi@reddit
When I was in school the languages offered were Spanish, French and German. I think Spanish was pretty popular of those 3.
Appropriate_Dish1015@reddit
I would guess in most of the US, it would be Spanish. I live in Louisiana so most students in my area take French.
Electrical_Cut8610@reddit
I took Spanish starting in 3rd grade, when we were required to pick Spanish or French. That carried all the way through, every year, to 8th grade. In high school we had to take one year of language, which also had Spanish and French, but also German and Latin as options. I kept Spanish. I also took one semester of Spanish in college for funsies.
Infrared_01@reddit
Spanish overwhelmingly, but personally i wanted to feel special so I took German lol
Domidude@reddit
Spanish is overwhelmingly picked but French is second.
Spanish is the most popular because there is a large Hispanic population in the united states and Mexico is our neighbor to the south.
French is one of the more common languages offered across the US but from what i remember when i was in school it was often seen as less useful to take because you are far less likely to encounter it than Spanish.
MartyPhelps@reddit
Spanish, anything else is a distant second.
No_Cartographer5955@reddit
I took three years of Spanish and one year of American Sign Language.
dr-brennan@reddit
Spanish. Even when I was in 7th grade it just made way more sense to me. I think it would be great for the standard to be LatAm Spanish, not Spain Spanish.
VictorianPeorian@reddit
I don't know what I would have chosen, given a choice, but my entire class was started on French in middle school, so I continued that in high school. Almost everyone else would have taken Spanish. I'm not sure what else was even offered—I think maybe German and (new at the time) Chinese? I'm pretty sure they added Arabic later. Not sure if Latin was an option, although, as a history nerd, that always interested me.
EaglesFanGirl@reddit
Spanish b/c there's a lot of native spanish speakers in the USA today.
French was popular when i was growing up. German, Italian, Japanese, and Chinese are also popular.
anna_alabama@reddit
I took French, which was the second most popular option at my school. The first was Spanish by a long shot. The only other language offered was Latin, which wasn’t popular at all.
AnUnexpectedUnicorn@reddit
It depends. Spanish is the default unless you want to go into international business, then its Japanese or Mandarin. Sometimes the future doctors and lawyers take Latin, but that's becoming harder to find.
nordicacres@reddit
I live in a state with strong German ancestry and German was much more popular in my district than Spanish.
No_Owl_8576@reddit
Let's be real. Speaking Spanish is practical. French is not lol
Ravenclaw79@reddit
Depends on where you live. I pretty much never encounter Spanish, but I’m only a few hours’ drive from Quebec.
No_Owl_8576@reddit
Definitely true. I'm in Florida
Apart_Insect_8859@reddit
There tends to be a 'prestige' ranking which drives the student's decision, more than practical considerations.
In my high school, three languages were offered: Spanish, French, and Latin. The smarty-smart kids took Latin to signal they were super smart. The smart, college-bound, but not peak 'gifted', ones went for French. The rest took Spanish, which was considered 'easy'. This trio is pretty standard for the languages offered in public school, though some schools swap out German for Latin.
Spanish is considered the standard/common language offering. If a school can only afford one language teacher, they will try to get a Spanish one, if it is at all possible.
The more divorced from everyday life, the higher the 'prestige' of taking the language. So, taking Mandarin, for example, is extremely trendy, especially in elite schools. The thought behind it is that these 'elite' kids are going to grow up and be business leaders, and need to speak Mandarin for all those big, fancy, corporate contracts they'll need with China. As opposed to the poor kids, who should learn Spanish since they'll be working in kitchens or lawn care or need to think about practical usage. Most of the people who attend an expensive private school and learn Mandarin rarely to never actually use it, not like they might with Spanish, but the prestige factor is there.
The really rare languages are almost seen as a vanity project, which again is used to signal that you are smart and wealthy enough to be wasting your time on a non-practical language, or that you have a reason, such as your family travels or you have fancy plans to enter some elite overseas job, to be learning Arabic or similar.
LadybugGal95@reddit
If a school only has one option, it’s almost guaranteed to be Spanish. If a school has more options, then it’s wide open. My two kids are in different school districts. Both offer Spanish and have more Spanish teachers/classes than any other language. One district also offers French. The other offers German and Japanese.
Honest_Paper_2301@reddit
At my very small school, Spanish was the only option. So everyone took Spanish classes
SmoothSlavperator@reddit
Spanish if you're Humanities or social sciences oriented.
French or German if you're STEM oriented.
First_Bar_8024@reddit
English
Absurdtittyz@reddit
My high school only offered (spain) Spanish and French.
djmcfuzzyduck@reddit
We only had two languages available; Spanish or French. I did both.
No_Owl_7380@reddit
Definitely Spanish. I took 5 years between middle and high school. Yes, I speak Spanish proficiently.
French and German were the other languages offered. Funny thing is the German teacher in middle school was married to one of the high school Spanish teachers. I had her for a year and it was challenging because she spoke Spain style Spanish and one whole quarter was Catalan which is not Spanish at all!
Intrepid-Entrance460@reddit
Born in 1968. We didn't have any exposure to foreign language in school until grade 9 (\~14yo), except maybe on public television: Sesame Street. I was "tricked" into taking German. They told me since I was taking advanced math and science that German would be helpful. What they really meant was that the German teacher was pretty infamous and they needed the enrollment. My HS only offered Spanish, French, German, and Latin. I would've taken Italian if it were available, though.
PenaltyNo3221@reddit
Spanish
UndrPrtst@reddit
I took German and Spanish in high school.
WonderfulVariation93@reddit
Spanish BUT the reason most take a language is because either they are required to take 2 yrs of a foreign language to graduate in their state OR because most good colleges require 2 yrs to be accepted
WinterWick@reddit
I wanted to take French. My parents made me take Spanish. It's far more practical and I wish I had stuck with it. I really enjoyed it
Sad_Highlight_9059@reddit
I don't know about prefer to learn, but the one they end up most commonly learning is Spanish. I would have much preferred to learn French, but my mom made me take Spanish. I enjoyed Spanish though in fairness.
_handlemewithcare_@reddit
I picked German, because the professor (Polish) was so great (in HS) and then French in college (whyyyyyy). I wish I’d gone the Spanish route at some point.
anotherdamnscorpio@reddit
Spanish. Small portion do German French or Latin.
Travelsat150@reddit
French, then Spanish when growing up in the northeast. Canada was 4 hours away and a ton of people speak French. Now on the west coast Spanish is very common.
morganalefaye125@reddit
We only had 3 choices: Spanish, French, or Latin. Most kids took Spanish. Maybe 10% of the students took one of the others
kerm0kerm@reddit
Most students go for Spanish because it's more commonly spoken here, but I believe the 2nd most common option is French (which is what I decided to take).
Safe_Chicken_6633@reddit
Where I grew up in Massachusetts, it was pretty evenly split between Spanish (because it's the most common language in the country besides English), Portuguese (huge immigrant population in Fall River, New Bedford, East Providence), French (also significant enclaves of Quebecois plus not far from francophone Canada), and Latin (for those going on to higher education in law or medicine).
ghostman71@reddit
Spanish
rdldr1@reddit
I wish I took Latin instead. I want to go back to my Latin roots.
the_zac_is_back@reddit
Depends on where you live. In Texas, it’s mostly Spanish since that’s the one we would most commonly use
natetrnr@reddit
l contend it doesn't matter because in the U.S. students are not actually expected to learn a foreign language when they take it. They can take four or more years of a language and upon graduation not be able to hold a simple conversation, and nobody thinks anything of it. Language teachers get a free pass in that way.
Now if a student graduates from high school and is unable to read simple sentences, or unable to solve simple math problems, it's a big deal, a major failure, and questions will be asked.
Due-Garage4146@reddit
I know a lot of kids here in public school like to take Korean. Mine took Japanese. When I was in public school back in the 90s I took Arabic. Now it’s expanded a lot. There’s also a Russian, Vietnamese, Mandarin. I live in the south. I’m sure there’s more variety in public schools up north or in major cities.
Ishpeming_Native@reddit
Almost all will pick Spanish, because it's almost a second national language. But Spanish is very unlike English -- the verbs, the tenses, pretty much everything is more like Latin, which almost no Americans know. The easiest second language would be German. All the verbs and tenses are almost exactly the same. Many of the words are the same or similar. The two languages were almost the same language about a thousand years ago.
So, yeah, most students will pick Spanish and do awful with it. A few will pick French and do even worse. And very few will pick German and those will actually do a lot better but have little confidence. No matter; they won't have much chance to use German, anyway.
Disastrous-Rise-6526@reddit
Spanish, French, Japanese, in that order.
spiniton85@reddit
In my school in Tucson, Arizona, we only had the option of French or Spanish. Being surrounded by Spanish speakers, I chose to take French because it felt more exotic.
Hawaiian-national@reddit
Spanish.
Nerds take French, sometimes ASL is taught too, that’s what I did (I failed tf out of Spanish)
SevereAnimator5@reddit
Spanish is the easiest
Even-Breakfast-8715@reddit
Spanish is the easy choice, especially in the southwest and the west. Hawaiian and Japanese in Hawaii. Japanese, Chinese, and Spanish in California, with many heritage languages (Arabic, Farsi, Thai, Korean, Punjabi, Khmer, Hindi) as well but not in school. French and German still taught in schools. Latin is pretty much gone though.
Dense_Amphibian_9595@reddit
Spanish, French, German, and Latin respectively
Mysterious-Cod-5767@reddit
While Spanish is definitely the most popular, learning Chinese is definitely growing in popularity. Both my niece and nephew took Chinese in school.
ImaginaryCatDreams@reddit
At this point we might as well start teaching Spanish in the first grade, American English and American Spanish are eventually going to merge probably with a little bit of Portuguese thrown in
strawberryselkie@reddit
My high school only offered French or Spanish, as did most high schools in my area. Spanish was more popular, mostly because the French teacher was a bit... off.
I know of one high school near my hometown that also offered German, and another Italian.
MysteriousMeaning555@reddit
In school, I chose French despite living in Southern California, close to the US/Mexico border.
But at home, I learned Spanish from my mom's boyfriend.
There was a similar question posted in here about 4 months ago, which I did not save. And that question got me curious as to what was offered in Orange County schools, so I posted a question in r/orangecounty which can be found here..
THE_TRIP_KEEPER@reddit
Spanish is the only practical language for day to day
lovemesomezombie@reddit
I think it depends on region. I'm from Southern California so for me, Spanish I assume if you lived in states close to areas in Canada, it may be French. My Mom took Latin for some reason, never used it but it helped in trivia.
Complex_Solutions_20@reddit
Everyone always told me Spanish was "the easiest one"...that's what I went for. Also there's more likely to be people speaking Spanish than other offered languages.
If they counted sign-language as a 2nd language I would have liked to do that but ASL didn't qualify for the 2nd language requirements when I was in school.
MET1@reddit
My mother said Spanish was too easy so I had to take French.
Snoo-26158@reddit
In my school it was American esl then Spanish then French then Chinese
MET1@reddit
I started with French in grade school and kept taking it in high school. Then, I added 2 years of Latin. I remember being able to read notes from the South American students - they were surprised that I could understand them without having studied Spanish or Portugese. The problem I have now is not being able to understand Spanish accents and the I can't keep up with the speaking speed.
Ericakat@reddit
At the school I went to, Spanish was a requirement. At the school one of my parents grew up in French was what they had to learn. I think it depends on the area.
ShesGotaChicken2Ride@reddit
Where I’m from, it’s Spanish (Mexican variation) because that’s what everyone speaks besides English, but I have noticed an uptick in Mandarin.
Unusual_Entrance7354@reddit
Have you seen the news lately? Americans are no longer interested in being educated and global citizens.
GreenBeanTM@reddit
“Just basics” is honestly pushing it. We learn how to say “hi, how are you?” And “good”, please/thank you, count to 10, and then a whole bunch of random vocabulary for specific assignments or tests. The vast majority of us don’t learn how to have even a basic conversation in our high school classes, and we remember a fraction of what we did “learn”
To answer your actual question tho: Spanish. It’s often the only option a school offers and it’s realistically the only one that we might ever have a use for.
Suspicious_Art9118@reddit
AMERICAN SIGN LANGUAGE is coming up fast. Yes, I'm shouting at you
ThePostalTilt@reddit
My school offered only Spanish and Mandarin. For some reason, I picked Mandarin, thinking it may help me in a future career.
I’ve worked in a restaurant for eleven years now and have never used Mandarin once, but sure do wish I knew Spanish.
SpunkyBlah@reddit
Mostly Spanish. If an area has a high population of people that speak another language, that can be more popular. But that is localized.
Island_Crystal@reddit
japanese is a popular one in hawaii
SirTheRealist@reddit
When I was in high school I was given French as my language class. I failed miserably for several semesters because I was just not a seriously student overall, and then my counselor switched me to Spanish hoping that I would finally get the required language credits I needed to graduate
Calm-Vacation-5195@reddit
These days, Spanish is often the only option. I took Latin and French in high school in the 70s, but Latin is very rare as an option now and French is disappearing quickly. Until a few years ago, you had to do at least two years of a foreign language to graduate from high school. Our state dropped that requirement, so many students don’t do it at all anymore.
cowgirlbootzie@reddit
My son took Spanish in middle school on California and hated it. He was failing. So I went to talk to the teacher. She was Chinese.
SouthBayBoy8@reddit
I did French
CommercialExotic2038@reddit
Spanish, but I took ASL, American Sign Language. Yes, Spanish would have served me much better
West_Guidance2167@reddit
Yep. Spanish. We also had French, German and Japanese available.
Hooterz03@reddit
Definitely Spanish because Mexico is right there, and French is second. The real question is what’s third…
no-onwerty@reddit
Spanish
nous-vibrons@reddit
At my school, Spanish was the class you took just to get the foreign language requirement over with, with the few who took it at higher levels usually being no sabo kids who wanted to get back into the language or people who thought it was more practical to learn than French.
French was the class you took if you wanted to put in actual language learning effort. Or because you already spoke Spanish fluently, and therefore were banned from taking Spanish as you wouldn’t be learning anything. Or because your French Canadian family made you. Usually the latter two would drop it as soon as they were able but most in the last group had real insistent grand-mères lol.
This lead to the basic belief that French was harder than Spanish when it was really just that the class was more serious. The languages themselves are probably about the same as far as difficulty goes. It also meant the kids who took French were kind of snobs to the people who took Spanish.
No other languages were offered at my school, much to my chagrin. I remember in high school I was already deep into French class while also desperately wanting to learn Latin, Russian, Dutch and Irish. If I had access to good language classes I’d probably be a polyglot except for the fact I lost a whole bunch of my French after not needing it during the pandemic
nuglasses@reddit
We had Spanish and French in Jr High, HS had advanced Spanish and French. I think they had German too.
I took Language Arts in 7th grade. 😂
Rabid-tumbleweed@reddit
My high school offered Spanish, French, and Latin. I took Spanish, but bring in New England French was more popular.
Applejuiceinthehall@reddit
Spanish, French and ASL are top 3
hotpepperjam@reddit
As many have said, Spanish is the clear front runner and offered in most districts. What else is offered varies considerably from district to district. One factor I wanted to mention - the quality of the teaching can cause some local variables. When my son was in high school, the German teacher was younger, really good with the kids, and good at teaching. The Spanish teacher was none of those things. Spanish was still a popular class, but German was unusually popular too.
maevriika@reddit
My only choices were Spanish and ASL. One of these was gonna get a lot more use in everyday life than the other, so I went with it. I wouldn't have minded ASL though.
BAMspek@reddit
Spanish. I took German in high school because I loved being different, aber ich vergessen pretty much alles.
Legovida8@reddit
Now, it’s Spanish & Mandarin where we live. When I was in school, 35yrs ago, we chose between Spanish & French, and also one year of Latin (either in 7th or 8th grade, I can’t recall exactly).
tieniesz@reddit
Español porque es muy prevalent
largos7289@reddit
Spanish at this point we got more then Mexico does, so it makes sense that you would want to learn it.
Parking_Champion_740@reddit
Probably Spanish is most commonly learned
Diesel-the-merciful@reddit
I speak Spanish and English. I learned the. Bc I’m Mexican American. Fluent. But I took 3 years of french in HS. I wish I paid attention and knew French. It’s spoken in a lot of places around the world.
JimBeam823@reddit
High schools often offer multiple languages, but Spanish is by far the most common and the most popular in most states. In Louisiana, it's French.
ClassicAdhesiveness1@reddit
Spanish.
I took French. It helped me when I was in France. That’s it.
We live in SoCal and I’m trying to convince my daughter to take Spanish but she wants to take French too 🤦♀️
We seem to have gotten rid of German and replaced with ASL. I think the ASL option is awesome!!
7o_Ted@reddit
My dumbass took German even though I live in New Mexico and have family members who mostly speak Spanish
Zivata@reddit
Spanish, French, and German are the most offered and chosen. I can't guarantee it, but I'm pretty sure that is the order of popularity, for most places.
Anchorage AK has more. They do immersion programs starting in Kindergarten that progress through highschool (for now anyway, the anti-education right wingers are voting out everything lately).
But they have Chinese (pretty sure Mandarin), French, German, Japanese, Russian, Spanish and Yup'ik.
cheetah-21@reddit
French
Apocalyptic0n3@reddit
My high school offered Spanish, French, German, and Japanese. Spanish is by far the most common and it wasn't even remotely close. We had 3 full time Spanish teachers. If you combined the other 3 under a single teacher, they still would have been part time.
SendHelp9417@reddit
A lot of kids in my high school (including myself) took French because we lived so close the Canadian border. Our town was also heavily influenced by Italian immigrants so a good portion took Italian, too. But far and away Spanish was most common.
I wish I took Spanish instead of French, and am now trying to learn it as an adult. It just makes sense to speak Spanish as a second language in the US!
Oliver_Dixon@reddit
Kinda foolish to do anything other than Spanish imo (in the usa)
mattcmoore@reddit
It's a pretty good mix but Spanish is the most common. Latin is a surprisingly common choice despite being a dead language. I think the idea is it helps with medical and legal vocabulary, which is more important since very few students will become proficient in the language they learn in high school.
Prestigious-Wolf8039@reddit
I took Spanish in high school but don't remember much. I've learned more Spanish teaching children in Nevada than from any class.
devilscabinet@reddit
The most common one here in Texas is Spanish, since it is the most useful.
MyHouseisOrange@reddit
Spanish. it's useful in most of the USA
lilxenon95@reddit
In my SoCal coastal city, it's mostly Spanish and ASL. Sometimes French.
I took ASL as the "easy way out" because I was already fluent 🙈 which is what many Spanish-speaking kids did respectively as well lmao
MSK165@reddit
Spanish is the overwhelming preference, followed by French.
I would add that the way we teach foreign languages is idiotic. Kids can pick up languages very easily before the puberty brain change. We wait until kids have lost that ability then start teaching them. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
ntrotter11@reddit
Spanish and French were the big ones at my high school (early 2010s)
But I took Latin and enjoyed that a ton.
Afraid_Equivalent_95@reddit
Spanish cuz it's most similar to English
EmbarrassedMilennial@reddit
from what i’ve seen it’s mostly spanish just because it’s the most useful day to day. but I guess a lot of people don’t really choose, it’s just whatever the school offers lol
Designer-Travel4785@reddit
Our school offer Spanish and French. Spanish class has more than twice the students as the French class.
Hairy-Inspection1101@reddit
It’s 100% Spanish as everyone else has said, but I took French 🤷♀️ unfortunately I cannot speak either, but I’ve encountered more Spanish-only speakers than French
max_m0use@reddit
In my Junior High school: the slackers took Spanish, the preps took French, the nerds took Latin, and the freak/Goth kids took German. Spanish was most popular by far, German second, Latin third, and the French class had like 8 kids in it (the 9th grade French teacher was a bitch, but more kids took French 1 when they got to the Senior High 10-12 campus, which had a different French teacher.)
botulizard@reddit
When I grew up we had a choice of French or Spanish. The kids who took French got to go to Quebec City for a week in 8th grade because it was nearby. The kids who took Spanish got nothing. Most kids still chose Spanish, but the kids who chose French chose it almost exclusively because they wanted to go on the trip.
GrouchyAssignment696@reddit
Schools near tribal reservations teach the local tribal language.
bovisrex@reddit
Spanish is the default, though I've seen students in Michigan take German or French or one of the Slavic languages because of their heritage.
Prairie_Crab@reddit
I took French. In retrospect, Spanish might’ve been more useful, but the Romance languages are similar enough that there’s some crossover.
killersinarhur@reddit
I'm Hispanic so it was either learn Spanish or not be able to communicate with my family
Icy-Astronaut-9994@reddit
C#
Python
More-Act2171@reddit
Spanish, but second place depends on location. In rural Pennsylvania german and Spanish were almost equal
Efficient_Advice_380@reddit
Spanish, but other offered languages usually include French, German and Mandarin
Historical-Composer2@reddit
It depends on what part of the US you live in. In Hawai’i most people take Chinese or Japanese. Spanish and French are usually tied for the next most popular.
MentalTelephone5080@reddit
When I was in HS I signed up for Italian and it was. Cancelled due to lack of interest. I was automatically put into Spanish.
My kids signed up for sign language and they were forced into Spanish.
TwincessAhsokaAarmau@reddit
Uh, I take Mandarin.
Puzzled-Bench2805@reddit
Basically everyone goes for Spanish here in Texas because it’s beneficial day to day and also for work. My kids’ school offered French, Latin, ASL, German, and mandarin and my kids all chose something different. I took Spanish because I already spoke it and I was lazy.
TheEarthlyDelight@reddit
I took French but I wish I’d picked Spanish. My high school offered Spanish, French, and Italian
AggressiveWin42@reddit
In my school district in Alaska growing up, it was Spanish or Russian as the only options.
Plus-Plan-3313@reddit
I wanted Latin. I took German, because Latin was no longer on offer and German was the "academic" option. I should have been made to take Spanish, which is what makes sense for being an American. I it also would have helped my Latin vocab.
Miserable_Carry_3949@reddit
I took Latin. We were in the minority
Rimurooooo@reddit
Spanish without a doubt but ASL is popular also. I’ve done both. Anything else is harder to access especially based on the district funding, and every state seems to have problems paying their teachers, let alone funding a robust amount of extra curriculars
Wide-Bat-6760@reddit
Spanish because I live in the south, so it’s the most useful. Lots of people don’t speak English. However, I will say, learning the language itself was not effective for me and people that went to other schools in other states too. That was because of how high schools taught it. It’s been over 10 years since I was in high school, so hopefully they reformed it to be effective. Because the school assessed by tests, personal essays, and vocabulary, we only learned to write in a super formal version of Spanish that no one would actually use in a speaking conversation. Most of us couldn’t even make out the words Spanish speakers said because it was too fast for us. Many of us also couldn’t say the words without heavy American accents, so they didn’t understand the few words we knew.
dumbsugarplumb@reddit
We only had a Spanish option at my school. I think some schools around me also had a French option but Spanish was always a guarantee
321liftoff@reddit
Due to proximity to Central and South America, it’s Spanish
Genepoolperfect@reddit
You understand that the US is sandwiched by Canada (French) and Mexico (Spanish) which are both much closer than Central or South America.
ambirch@reddit
Most Canadians don't speak French. And most that do also speak English. I spend way more time in my life in the US interacting with people from Central and South America than I do French Canadians.
Courwes@reddit
All of Mexico speaks Spanish and that’s not even including all the other countries in Central America and the Caribbean that speak Spanish as well. We’re talking like 20 different countries in relatively close proximity to the US that speak Spanish. In Canada you have one Provence in a giant fucking country that speaks French. You are FAR more likely to run into someone that speaks Spanish than someone speaking French. Hell even on TV they have like 30 channels that are only in Spanish. There are no channels that are solely in French.
Why even bother with this distinction.
BedbugBandido@reddit
I believe it's because oop said "due to proximity to central and south America". And so op is replying, why mention central and south America, when Mexico, which is in North America, is by far the main reason for the widespread prevalence of Spanish in the US.
Oniigiri@reddit
This is a level of pedantry only found on reddit 🤦🏻
321liftoff@reddit
Pretty much all French Canadians also speak English. There’s also a lot less of them.
Mayor__Defacto@reddit
Spanish can often be a huge advantage in many industries. In Manufacturing and Construction, because most of the laborers’ first language will be Spanish, so being able to talk to them directly is an asset. Same thing in Hospitality. Most BOH speak Spanish. Basically nobody speaks French except French Canadians and French people, which there are not many of in the US.
crunchyfoliage@reddit
Growing up in the northern Midwest Spanish is significantly more prevalent than French. I don't actually think I've ever heard anyone speaking French outside of a classroom setting in Michigan. It may be different in the Northeast where you're closer to Montreal
cuccumella@reddit
Grew up in New York which shares a border with the Quebec provence. I have encountered people speaking Quebecois out in public exactly one time- a family visiting Lake George for summer vacation.
What I actually encountered much more often was Hatian Creole, and other Caribbean adaptations of French.
Spanish was still more prevalent than either of those combined. Being surrounded by Spanish was part of my daily life.
wisaac1@reddit
Mexico is central America no?
Adorable_Dust3799@reddit
My sibs did french, since they were not far from Canada. I did Spanish as I'm near Mexico.
Cookieman_2023@reddit
I wanted to pick french, but thanks to complications I chose spanish instead. Turns out, it was a decent decision because spanish is widely used across the US thanks to the latino population.
Helen_Cheddar@reddit
Spanish and French tend to be the most popular. My family is Panamanian so my mom insisted I take Spanish 😂
SeventhSea90520@reddit
Most do spanish because of high availability and likelihood of using it being high
Isis39@reddit
Usually Spanish is the most taught second language in US schools
DrBlankslate@reddit
Spanish.
SkyPuppy561@reddit
I went with French
Tricktzy@reddit
Spanish, though French is also fairly common. It's what I chose to learn
thomsenite256@reddit
Spanish is by far the most common in most of the country.
winteriscoming9099@reddit
Spanish. French is probably secondary to that.
subliminalFreq@reddit
They prefer to learn nothing as a second language. Most people are pretty uninterested in spending time (or wasting it in their view) on another language than English. They learn Spanish because that's usually what most schools offer.
penpapercats@reddit
Spanish, because that'll make it easier to communicate with neighbors and also looks good on resumés
Dragonflies3@reddit
Spanish is the most useful
YoshiandAims@reddit
A large variety of our schools do not offer a variety, due to the cost and availability of language teachers.
In small schools, you're most likely to get Spanish or French, if you are lucky, Spanish and French.
Due to us being directly connected to Spanish and French-speaking countries, they are the ones most often offered.
My cousins in the city, in a decently funded district had three options. Most of them took Spanish, as we hear Spanish in our areas most.
My cousin, who went to a top-rated private school, had 6? options. I believe she chose German, as our grandparents' parents immigrated as the Nazi party took power (sometime in the 1930s?) and we still have connections to Germany, items written in German (letters, ledgers, all kinds of bits and bobs) and she felt German specialty would open some doors in the career fields she was interested in.
She was already bilingual as my aunt is a Chinese immigrant and a college professor. She and my Uncle valued that in her education, and she would travel home to visit with my aunt. (technically, she didn't choose it. But, I included it)
supaguy10@reddit
Spanish is probably the best option, French second best if you're in either Louisiana, New England, or a city where there are a lot of French African immigrants. I personally took Spanish until the end of high school, and then Russian in college
CarolChristine1224@reddit
Spanish
Constellation-88@reddit
The United States is the second largest Spanish-speaking country in the world after Mexico. Even though it’s not an official language, there are more Spanish speakers living in the US, then in any other country in the world other than Mexico. Learning Spanish is a smart move for anybody who wants to maximize their future job opportunities.
FortuneWhereThoutBe@reddit
If the school offers a choice then I think it's whatever they want but most schools only offer 1, Spanish, so that is what they learn
europanya@reddit
In the 80s we only had a choice of: Spanish French or German. And the German class was full.
Maurice_Foot@reddit
¿donde esta la biblioteca?
Terrible-Image9368@reddit
Spanish, Latin, French, and Chinese were offered at my school. I took Spanish and Chinese
landadventure55@reddit
At my daughters’ high school in Northern California, they offered Spanish, Mandarin, and French. I tried to get them both to take Mandarin because I felt it might be useful and be interesting on a resume. I could teach them basic Spanish, but they both wanted to take French. I wouldn’t let them so we agreed on Spanish. 😂
Goodlife1988@reddit
Absolutely Spanish. I run into Spanish speakers every day. The signs, in my grocery store, are in both English and Spanish.
robertwadehall@reddit
Probably Spanish. Spanish or German were my choices in high school. I took 2 years of Spanish, which was Latin American flavor..which made sense living in S. Florida. In college I took 2 years of Spanish that was more Spain Spanish focused. Funny thing is, I've never traveled to a Spanish speaking country, though I've been to British English, Italian, French, and German speaking countries. ..
whatsupgrizzlyadams@reddit
Spanish or Japanese
EgoSenatus@reddit
In my Highschool the popularity of second languages went:
Spanish (by a large margin; many taking it because they feel it’s easier than the others).
German
Chinese (though Chinese immersion classes are quite popular in the elementary school)
French
Russian
Greek
American Sign Language (only had like 8 students)
Away_Analyst_3107@reddit
My high school was German, and it was mostly because the German teachers were awesome and there was an exchange program. Nothing to do with the actual language lol
elucify@reddit
I would settle for them learning English
RespectablePapaya@reddit
Spanish is most popular by a huge margin.
Saltwater_Heart@reddit
Spanish. It’s the most common language after English
ReversedFrog@reddit
I took Latin in HS because I was a weirdo. In college I took German, because when I was a kid I lived in Germany for a few years, and fell in love with the language. As another poster said, it's not the most useful language as far as going to Germany is concerned, but a lot of the academic articles I want to read are in it, or quote in it, so I've kept up working on it for that reason. I also read a lot of books on WWII, and sometimes German comes in useful there.
But I went to Austria a few years ago, and although I only encountered three people that didn't speak English (one was a young woman, which surprised me), I was able to communicate with one of them, and sort of with another. And signs were easy to read for me. So it wasn't completely useless.
Ok_Still_3571@reddit
In the US, I’d say it would be Spanish. It’s easier to pronounce than French (another popular language elective in school), and is probably more useful, given the number of Spanish speakers in our country.
baddeafboy@reddit
Common language people learn in America is spanish and American signs language
gravitycheckfailed@reddit
I went to high school in Louisiana. Took French because I already spoke it, so the class would be an easy A, and German for the same reason. Most people took Spanish and/or French because those are the only languages offered at many schools. It's probably a bit regional in the state as to which gets chosen by more students, but it is probably majority Spanish.
TALieutenant@reddit
Spanish and French are probably the most popular.
I took Japanese because I was a huge anime nerd...and American Sign Language my senior year because I needed another elective. Honestly? If I could go back and do it over, I'd pick Spanish over Japanese. More useful.
Crochet_Corgi@reddit
Its not necessarily prefer, but have the option of. Sign Language was my favorite, but that had to wait for college, and I would have chosen Japanese in HS, but Spanish and French are usually the choices I had, maybe a 3rd thrown in. Spanish is generally the most useful in a lot of the US, so people push towards it. We start second languages far too late IMO.
eugwara@reddit
Nerds who liked history took German
Nerds who liked math took Mandarin
Theater and band kids took French
Everyone else took Spanish
WhoSaidWhatNow2026@reddit
Spanish. I'm never going to use this other language anyways, so may as well take the easiest one.
xxrainmanx@reddit
My wife and her family speaks Spanish so we put our kids in the Mandarin program. We figured between Spanish, Mandarin, and English you can talk to most of the world's population, add French and it covers almost everywhere.
thegreatpotatogod@reddit
Spanish, French, and ASL (Sign Language) seem to be the most popular in my area
ModernPrometheus0729@reddit
99.99% of people choose Spanish, but I chose French because I was already fluent and wanted that easy A.
RichardAboutTown@reddit
When I was in school the only choices were French and Spanish, both about equally popular. In our local district now, Spanish is all there is.
hailstorm11093@reddit
Spanish, I also learned a bit of Latin but ended up dropping both and learning swedish, still am 7 years later.
ShortBrownRegister@reddit
Too many students in the US take a basic language class in high school only to meet curriculum requirements, but not in any way that promises command or fluency. When I finished high school, I could speak Latin about as well as I could speak Spanish! (Neither one well, but one is dead.)
A better question: how do Europeans study English so well that they are readily conversational? In the USA, we do skits and rote grammatical exercises, but little conversation and no immersion.
Relevant-Emu5782@reddit
My daughter picked Latin for high school. But she had also had Spanish since kindergarten and was sick of it.
devilkaper@reddit
Spanish, French, Japanese, Chinese.
RedLegGI@reddit
We only had Spanish and German available. Not sure on the split though.
PaleoBibliophile917@reddit
Whatever fits their schedule among the few offered. When I was in high school long ago, the options were French, German, Spanish, and Latin. How many choices are offered depends largely on the districts’s funding. Fewer teachers means fewer elective courses overall and certainly fewer languages. In some districts, students aren’t even allowed to choose for themselves what they take. A school with very strong funding might offer very different options.
If the state has requirements of a second language for graduation, or if many colleges prefer it for admission, the odds go up a bit that a variety of options will be offered. But it’s been some decades now since the federal and state governments began to mandate testing and interfere with local districts to the degree that you are probably lucky now to have any choices at all.
Several_Celebration@reddit
Spanish is really the only practical option. Unless you have a niche reason to take German like family heritage or you want to take Japanese because you like anime.
Mundane-Particular30@reddit
Japanese is preferred because of Anime and tourists come here from Japan.
Jessica_1224@reddit
I take French
SpecialistBet4656@reddit
Spanish, although some still take French.
ahferroin7@reddit
Spanish is absolute tops. Most schools don’t offer anything else in fact. And honestly, it’s not a terrible choice given that it’s the second most spoken language in the world by native speakers, fourth most spoken by total speakers (English beats everyone by L2 speakers alone, Mandarin Chinese beats everyone but English because of native speakers, and Hindi has enough of both to edge out Spanish for the #3 spot), and is the most widely spoken language in the Americas (followed by English and then Portuguese).
If other options are offered, it’s usually one or more of French, German, Latin, or Mandarin Chinese.
diegotbn@reddit
Mexico has the highest number of Spanish speakers of any country.
The US has the second highest.
Well, the #2 slot is contested between the US, Colombia, and Spain. But you get the idea. We have a ton of Spanish speakers, both native and learned.
In school, no other language comes close to how many Spanish students there are. Bear in mind, a lot of rural schools offer only Spanish, and most others will only offer French and German as alternatives. Very few schools offer Japanese, Mandarin, or anything else. Some offer Latin if you count that.
For myself, a decently fluent speaker who has worked as an interpeter, I originally wanted to study French in school because I thought it was so romantic and sounded so pretty, but I chose Spanish in 8th grade because it was so practical. I ended up majoring in it in college and pursuing careers using it for the first few years of my professional life.
Maleficent_Button_58@reddit
My school only had Spanish and Latin. Only one was practical in day to day life 😅
KeriEatsSouls@reddit
I studied French and Spanish in school. My French teacher was actually French, which i think is cool since it was a small southern town (near Louisiana tthough and French is spoken down there in some areas).
Tricky_Ad_1870@reddit
Soanish is pushed pretty heavily. I've actually had more use for German during my life though.
Straight_Mongoose_51@reddit
Spanish was the only foreign language available at my school
Hypnox88@reddit
My school only offered Spanish. We had about 5 teachers teaching it.
VioletDreaming19@reddit
My high school offered Spanish, French, and German. I went for French because it sounded beautiful. 💜
Klutzy-Comment6897@reddit
Mexican.
Quick_Sherbet5874@reddit
spanish. i took french to be different
Prometheus_303@reddit
My high school offered Spanish and German.
Latin was offered for awhile, but the teacher who taught it retired while we were in junior high and they never replaced her.
Spanish was by far the most popular. They had 2 Spanish teachers and only one German.
I took German. A significant portion of my ancestry (primarily on my father's side but a small amount of my mother's as well) comes from the German speaking region. And I figured it would set me apart a little...
I'm not sure how many sections of each were offered... But from what I can remember my German 1 through 3 were full - 25± kids.
When it came to German 4 however ... There were only like 6 of us who opted to do the full 4 year program. The teacher retired after our junior year so I don't know if having a brand new teacher might have put some off. Or how it compared with how many did all 4 years of Spanish
A couple years after I graduated they axed the German program. Anyone who had taken at least German 1 could continue and finish off if they so chose but no one new could start it. As far as I know then they only offer Spanish, doubt they would have picked up anything new..
Though one of the Spanish teachers (if she's still there) is co-certified to teach French too so they theoretically could have picked it up without too much issue I guess
PrimaryHighlight5617@reddit
Spanish.
Funnily enough I took French in high school and at this point just from working in restaurants and being around Mexicans I can understand the Spanish way better than I can understand French 😂
burningmanonacid@reddit
Spanish for sure.
At my catholic school, they offered Latin, French, and Chinese in addition to Spanish.
Religious kids did Latin. Asian students and a couple white kids who planned on inheriting their parents' international businesses did Chinese. Theater kids and racists (towards the good amount of Hispanic kids at the school) did French. Everyone else took Spanish. Lol.
Responsible_Side8131@reddit
Most take Spanish, French is most likely in second place
DSPGerm@reddit
Spanish. The US has one of the largest Spanish speaking populations in the world (#2 I believe after Mexico if we count 2nd language acquisition). I always remind people of that when they say “speak English, this is America”
wfbhp@reddit
I would have preferred Latin, then Japanese, then German. On the other hand, my options were Spanish or French, so I chose French. They started offering a trial Latin class my junior year, but to get the language honor with your diploma, you had to either do 2 years of 2 different languages (and up to that point, there were only 2 options) or 3 of 1 and 1 o another. Since the Latin class was trial, I couldn't depend on their being a Latin II my senior year, so I had to do French III instead. I did get to take Latin my senior year (and no, there was no Latin II, so I chose wisely), and that one year of Latin was much more useful to my life than three years of French.
RichLeadership2807@reddit
Spanish by far and French is a distant 2nd. If you know English, Spanish & French you can communicate with practically all of North America.
GreenDavidA@reddit
Spanish. My kids also have Mandarin classes. Hebrew classes are also pretty popular where I live.
Final-Elderberry9162@reddit
Spanish or French.
Brilliant-Ideal-1101@reddit
In Junior high I took French. Expectations were low and the class was fun.
In highschool and college I took Spanish. Highschool I passed barely. In college I had to take a level 2 language and they didn't count my HS classes. The class sucked, the teacher was an ass.
So in college I also took Arabic. The class was fun. I could read Arabic, understand the root words and generally understand what was being talked about but was still working on the conjugation.
Salty_Permit4437@reddit
Almost universally Spanish because so many here already speak it, so it’s essentially it’s a “free” A
No_Importance_750@reddit
Definitely Spanish
officerboba@reddit
Spanish without a doubt, French isn’t that popular as it used to be
Effective_Coach7334@reddit
Canada hasn't gone anywhere.
vamoosedmoose@reddit
The only French speaking places Americans really go are France and Vietnam. We don’t even go to Quebec when we go to Canada
PacSan300@reddit
French is not spoken much in Vietnam today, despite colonial history.
Effective_Coach7334@reddit
Other than Americans frequenting Haiti, Martinique and Guadeloupe, Switzerland and Belgium, and The Ivory Coast, I totally agree.
inbigtreble30@reddit
Yeah but the statistics don't lie. 70% of US high schoolers who earned any second language credits did so in Spanish, while only 12% did so in French. (As of 2019)
Expensive-Student732@reddit
Canadian here. I've heard alot of French in Northern Vermont. A wee bit in the county, Maine.
The French they instruct in Portland is European, though.
Effective_Coach7334@reddit
Same here. my teacher was from Paris.
Kbbbbbut@reddit
In Texas atleast, definitely Spanish. To be honest it really is the only language that would be useful every once in a while because of the large Hispanic population here. Other languages I’ve only needed when traveling
Aloh4mora@reddit
Almost everyone does Spanish. I did Latin.
Devee@reddit
My school only offered Spanish and Japanese.
Ok_Coconut4898@reddit
When I was in high school we could choose from Spanish, German, and French. Spanish was by far the most popular. The foreign language most American people are likely to be exposed to in their daily lives is Spanish. There are several million native speakers of Spanish who have immigrated to our country.
I live in a place where I hear Spanish spoken in public every single day, everywhere I go: stores, doctor offices, parks, etc.
Quirky_Commission_56@reddit
I know a little German, Spanish, and French. I grew up hearing German because my maternal grandfather was born in Germany and his parents only spoke German. And I took French in high school and I grew up with several friends who spoke Spanish.
IngenuityExpress4067@reddit
Spanish and French are likely top, followed by German, Chinese, and a few others depending on region. State requirements vary but my kids were able to become bilingual in French, we live close to Canada so that made the most sense for them to take.
dwwhiteside@reddit
It's Spanish by a large margin because; a) it is the most useful to most people in the U.S. because of the number of Spanish speakers, and b) easier to find locals who can teach it.
GreatRecipeCollctr29@reddit
Spanish, French, Mandarin, Japanese, Tagalog (Filipino), or German.
mladyhawke@reddit
We could choose between German and Spanish at my school in Illinois in the 80s. I chose spanish
Duque_de_Osuna@reddit
Spanish is by far the top choice. A few choose French. A handful German.
Khpatton@reddit
I don’t have the stats, but it must be Spanish.
I was an anomaly in that I had German starting in kindergarten, even though I went to a regular public school. Very few schools here start foreign language instruction that early, and it’s such a shame. I could have switched to Spanish or French in middle school, and often wish I’d switched to Spanish, but by that point I’d had six years of German so I just kept going with it.
DevilPixelation@reddit
Definitely Spanish, and it’s not even close. Around 15% of the nation speaks Spanish and several million of our citizens are of Latin American, Hispanic, or Spanish descent.
From there, the most common ones you’ll see are French, German, and Italian. Maybe you’ll see Mandarin, maybe you’ll see American Sign Language, perhaps Latin. Depends on how much funding the school or the district gets.
USBombs83@reddit
I went for German. Honestly they should MAKE us learn Spanish.
willoww3@reddit
Spanish, and French, or ASl when available
Hylian_ina_halfshell@reddit
Spanish for most
French and Latin are also in a lot of schools
dgmilo8085@reddit
Distant 2: French
3: German
FataMorganaForReal@reddit
I had an "intro to foreign languages" option where I got to try a different language every quarter. I learned Spanish, French, German, and Latin. When I say "learned", I mean basics - hello, goodbye, how are you, what time is it, bathroom please, etc. I can speak some Spanish because it's more relevant and there's more exposure to it in the US. At least that's my experience. Spanish seem to be the most useful here.
thiccoledummy@reddit
Spanish, by far, though I would argue that has more to do with what parents assume will look good on a resume/help in day-to-day communication rather than any desire to learn on the kids part. I was raised in the PNW and I can't speak for any other area without research but you needed a certain amount of credits in a foreign language to graduate high school and all the schools around me offered Spanish, French, and German as their core languages. The lower income schools had only those but there were schools in higher income counties that offered Russian, Vietnamese, Mandarin, Dutch, Japanese etc... I would assume the bulk of choices had something to do with the immigrant populations in those areas since for the most part those were the ethnicities I was surrounded by in my school district lol.
Dai-The-Flu-@reddit
Spanish because it’s far and away the most useful. Mandarin is another popular one and there a large Chinese population in the NYC school system, especially my high school.
I took Italian throughout middle school and high school and even in college. I come from an Italian-American family and learned Italian as a grandchild thanks to my maternal grandparents and visiting our relatives who live in Italy. I’m really grateful I took those Italian classes or else I probably would not have retained the language.
kabekew@reddit
In my school German, French and Spanish were equally popular but most planning on college also took Latin.
Yak-Shack@reddit
Some schools let you choose. My school offered Spanish, French, and Mandarin. I chose Spanish.
Dai-The-Flu-@reddit
Spanish because it’s far and away the most useful. Mandarin is another popular one and there a large Chinese population in the NYC school system, especially my high school.
I took Italian throughout middle school and high school and even in college. I come from an Italian-American family and learned Italian as a grandchild thanks to my maternal grandparents and visiting our relatives who live in Italy. I’m really grateful I took those Italian classes or else I probably would not have retained the language.
ImDistortion1@reddit
Spanish. My favorite class that counted as a language was CAD. It was a computer class that for whatever reason counted towards credit for language. So I ended up only taking a year of Spanish and doing that for a year.
oneislandgirl@reddit
I think Spanish is the most popular now. When I was in school many years ago you could take Spanish, French, German or Latin. I think the choices are more limited. Where you live can make a difference too. I think Japanese or Chinese are offered in some schools now.
comrade_zerox@reddit
While its not uncommon for high schools to offer French, Latin, occasionally German, or Mandarin (on the rise), the most common is still Spanish.
I took Spanish all 4 years of high school and use it weekly, if not daily. My girlfriend took French. She never gets to use it.
Some parts of the US with very specific immigrant populations may have other foreign language classes in their school systems (I knew a few kids who took Russian in middle school due to a large slavic population), but for those part it's just Spanish and French.
AbbreviationsTop4959@reddit
Grew up in California. I took Spanish in middle school for one semester, because it was offered and practical. But I wanted to be a scientist, so my high school foreign language was French.
FirstPersonWinner@reddit
It is always Spanish
Serious-Mongoose-387@reddit
i wanted to take japanese because my best friend was going to take japanese, but my mom insisted that i take spanish so i did.
then in college i met a ton of japanese students and introduced some to my friend. he decided to transfer to my school and become a japanese major and became a japanese minor, so in the end i got both japanese and spanish. then my friend moved to japan.
MLoxxer@reddit
When I was in secondary school, there was no choosing. The school only offered German, so that's what I studied. Not a super practical choice for North America.
GorgeousBog@reddit
Spanish by far. 2nd and 3rd are probably French and German.
GorgeousBog@reddit
The others are not very common such as Korean, Chinese, Japanese, sometimes latin
veritable-truth@reddit
Spanish is unofficially the second language of the US and this dates back centuries.
witchy12@reddit
In my High school we had 3 options, Spanish, French, and German.
Spanish was waaaay more popular than both French and German, and French was slightly more popular than German.
ImpressiveAppeal8077@reddit
Spanish cuz it’s easiest and closest qnd used the most in the states
FutureHot3047@reddit
Spanish followed by French because it’s what’s offered most of the time. I took Spanish and switched to Japanese now in college.
tawzerozero@reddit
In my middle and high schools, Spanish and French were the only choices. I just looked, and now (20+ years later), my high school now offers Spanish, Italian, or Mandarin.
Personally, I took 3 years of Spanish, purely in high school. When I was in university, I took 2 semesters of Latin, and 1 semester of Japanese, but still ended up meeting my foreign language requirement by taking and achieving a certain score on the SAT2 Spanish test.
SabresBills69@reddit
Spanish. places innthe northeast, French is popular because of Quebec nearby. Quebec is French speaking
NightDragon8002@reddit
Most school districts I've heard of make kids learn a little Spanish in elementary school and then offer Spanish plus a couple other languages in middle and high school (e.g. my school had Spanish, French, and German). Spanish is probably the most popular but there aren't a huge number of options so I think a lot of people just default to it since it's common
AesirKratos@reddit
Spanish is the only one useful here. And even then… it really isn’t useful.
LIslander@reddit
Spanish and Mandarin.
FinanceGuyHere@reddit
Spanish, which pisses off every French Canadian we come across! I’ve been stuck in a wingman situation twice in American night clubs with French Canadian women who didn’t speak any English, and were offended that we didn’t speak French
Junior_Ad_3301@reddit
Spanish is the most useful one, that's why i took 4 years of German. Lol ended up working with lots of spanish speakers and picking up enough for very basic communication. German has only been useful very occasionally for trivial nonsense.
SingleDadSurviving@reddit
A lot of high schools only have Spanish.
ThePerpetualJester@reddit
Spanish because a lot of the workforce is immigrants and so for a lot of industry's Spanish is key. French is semi popular too.
Extra_Routine_6603@reddit
Spanish is the usual go to was actually my only option in school. Still cant speak it but passed with an A. Took 2 years and had 5 or 6 different teachers come and go for one reason or another so we kinda just got a free pass and pushed along.
mister_buff_muffin@reddit
In Hawaii most schools teach Japanese
Icey-Emotion@reddit
Most schools offer Spanish or French or both.
Atmy highschool, they weren't native speakers. They learned in highschool and college with a summer internship to a place that spoke the language.
I know people that took 4 years of a language in highschool and still only knew basics. Not even conversational.
MaddoxJKingsley@reddit
My high school offered Spanish, Italian, and French. Most took Spanish, many took Italian, and few took French.
TEG24601@reddit
My high school offered Spanish and French. Previously it also offered German. Today I believe they offer Spanish, French, and Japanese.
Spanish is by far the most enrolled in our district (from the 2024 district report card).
ereignishorizont666@reddit
I took German in high school and college. It was what was available in my Wisconsin high school.
Also took Latin.
aqua_delight@reddit
My dad told me i should take Spanish, and we had like 6 Spanish teachers, 3 French teachers, 1 German (technically one of the French teachers also taught German), and 1 Latin and (i think) 1 Mandarin. Spanish classes were always full, but i ended up taking French and German.
arochains1231@reddit
Spanish is usually the only one offered
leonchase@reddit
Where I grew up (Michigan), French was a popular offering. Probably because of our local history and close proximity to Canada. People like me took Spanish because it was considered more practical. But a lot of people, especially young women, gravitated to French because it was considered more romantic and cosmopolitan.
Of course, my experience is several decades out of date. I would be curious to know if students still think about French that way.
irelace@reddit
Spanish if you want to actually use the language. The only other options are usually French, German, Italian and Mandarin.
randomlybev@reddit
I took French, but I have dual US/Canadian citizenship. In undergrad I took Arabic, Turkish, and Spanish. The Spanish has been most useful, but I’ve also used the Arabic from time to time (we have a large expat community in my area and I like the food from that part of the world).
theDailyDillyDally@reddit
Every high school offers Spanish. The next most offered is French it seems (in addition to Spanish.) Then Latin. And occasionally German. (There could be private or charter schools that may have Chinese or be a specific language immersion school but those aren’t the standard.)
Wonderful_Shower_793@reddit
Spanish, with French being a strong second. In elite schools, Mandarin. My kids took several years of Hebrew.
Gold-Vanilla5591@reddit
I think Hebrew is only offered at the Jewish schools (because they have to know how to read it before they do their bar/bat mitzvah)
Wonderful_Shower_793@reddit
My teenager has it offered in his public high school.
FancyWatercress8269@reddit
Only Spanish and French were available in my high school. My kids had the option of those two or German.
michelle427@reddit
I’d think Spanish is what is most popular. Since it’s the second most spoken language in the US.
Vachic09@reddit
Spanish is both the most popular and the most available.
Stn1217@reddit
Spanish.
Glittering_Safe_8458@reddit
Note that many schools only offer one language option, and it may be dependent on region. The funding of our schools is also localized based on taxes. A school in a low-income neighborhood/ district may have no second language option or just one. A school on the other side of the city in a much more affluent neighborhood/ district may offer several.
That said, you will find a great majority of us do either Spanish or possibly French.
lexicon951@reddit
Spanish is usually required, as well as the only foreign language option. If you go to a fancy school or live in a nicer district you may have access to French or German class. If your district has no budget at all you might not even have a teacher, just a computer lab with Duolingo or Rosetta Stone and the “teacher” makes you work on language of your choice for a few hours a week as a study hall elective
MarkTheDuckHunter@reddit
Spanish
cloudysquach@reddit
Generally Spanish. My high school offered Spanish, Arabic, German, mandarin, and Latin. Which is crazy for a public school in Montana
Darkdragoon324@reddit
French and Spanish are the most common languages offered. A lot of schools don’t offer more than those.
Spanish is probably chosen mire than French.
Winter-eyed@reddit
Spanish was the largest followed by French Russian and Japanese in my highschool
BUBBAH-BAYUTH@reddit
In elementary school Spanish was part of the curriculum, after that the typical options were Spanish, French and German.
I picked French but it felt pretty equally spread out.
entrelac@reddit
I took Latin, which has turned out to be really useful in figuring out word origins and words in romance languages. In college I took German because Latin wasn't offered.
Sal1160@reddit
Spanish, it’s basically one of two languages spoken in the US. Dialect may vary
roumonada@reddit
Mexican
evaj95@reddit
Usually Spanish because we are more familiar with it.
However, I took Latin, because I assumed it would help me with my SAT.
Expert-Leg8110@reddit
We started in junior high and had to pick between Spanish, French, and German. They later added ASL. Spanish was definitely the most popular.
shammy_dammy@reddit
Spanish. I made the mistake of taking French. I still regret it.
Formal-Telephone5146@reddit
Took Spanish and I learned Mexican Puerto Rican and Spanish from Spain is not the samething! We had a few Mexican and Puerto Ricans kids struggle they was saying this is not the Spanish they speak at home.
Penguin_Scout@reddit
I think the most common offerings (at least when I was growing up) were Spanish, French, and German. At some schools you can also find Latin or Mandarin. Spanish is by far the most popular because it is the most useful in the US.
leannmanderson@reddit
Spanish is definitely the most common language in the US.
The other languages depend partly on what's commonly spoken in the area combined with which language teachers are available.
Amuse_Me444@reddit
Espagnol, Français, Deutsch
formerprincess@reddit
Depends on where you live. In Southern California many people know at least some Spanish. I moved here out of high school and got a very good job as a French English translator because they couldn’t find anyone else who spoke French. Today mandarin speakers are in very high demand in the job market especially at entry level positions. My friends in hr tell me many applicants while fluent in mandarin do not have the English skills needed so the jobs remain unfilled.
intotheairwaves17@reddit
Spanish is definitely most popular. My school offered Spanish, French, and German, so I took French. It’s come in useful for trips to Canada, but Spanish probably would’ve been more useful in every day life.
My college offered Chinese, Russian, Japanese, and Latin I believe (in addition to French, Spanish, and German), but I just stuck with French since I already had been taking it for 6 years by that point.
Unfortunately our school system often has us start learning a second language when kids are around 12, which is imo an awful time. You’re going through a lot and are self conscious enough already, trying to speak a different language in a class with a bunch of other self conscious kids can be detrimental when you’re scared of getting made fun of. Luckily a lot of schools are starting dual language programs earlier now, which is better too because younger kids can absorb new languages easier than older kids/adults.
BunnyGirlSD@reddit
Spanish, but i live closer to Mexico then i do to another state...
Prize_Consequence568@reddit
"What language do most American students prefer to learn in school as a second language?"
Depends on the particular school.
Depends on the particular school district.
huazzy@reddit
I'm a native Spanish speaker so I took French.
On another took AP Spanish and many in the class were upset at me. I told them they can take AP English if it bothers them so much.
ambernoire13@reddit
As a native speaker did you come across any weird rules or words? My Spanish teacher was from Nicaragua and she told us she was teaching us that type of Spanish because she had never encountered some of the rules or words in the text book our school had.
Gold-Vanilla5591@reddit
I know (as a native English speaker who took Spanish for many years) that some districts push Spain Spanish over Latin American Spanish, but it doesn’t make sense because a lot of Spanish speaking immigrants from the US are from Latin American countries.
My point: there’s a bunch of words for “straw” and “popcorn” in Spanish depending on what country you’re in. In Mexico popcorn is palomitas, but in Venezuela they are known as cotufas. Straw in Mexico is popote (from Nahuatl) and in Venezuela it’s pitillo
mpjjpm@reddit
My high school offered Spanish, French and German. Spanish was most popular by far. French was popular among the artsy/creative kids. German was least popular and mostly kids interested in science - we had several German based pharma and tech companies in the area.
ConcertinaTerpsichor@reddit
It used to be French, but now it’s Spanish.
housecow@reddit
What kind of rich schools did everyone attend that Latin was an available option? I assumed most high schools offered Spanish, Italian, French, and German. And if you lived in areas with major ethnic groups, they might offer like Chinese.
Gold-Vanilla5591@reddit
I work at a rich all boys school and we have Latin, French, Greek, Chinese, Japanese, Spanish and French iirc. The sister school has the same languages plus Russian.
Kayak1984@reddit
Boston Latin School. Established in 1635. Public but there’s an entry exam.
edelmav@reddit
i think in most it's probably spanish. my american public school was fortunate enough to offer spanish, sign language, french, and german. ASL actually had a waiting list and some students would voluntarily do summer school to learn it and receive the extra language credit. i took german for the easy A lol
Maxorus73@reddit
Most take Spanish, it's the most useful. My high school also offered Japanese and French. I took French because Spanish is useful and that's about where I was at at age 14, and Japanese is hard. In retrospect I would've gotten a lot more use out of Japanese lmao
PrimusDCE@reddit
Overwhelmingly Spanish. It’s basically the only remotely relevant alternative language over here.
Gold-Vanilla5591@reddit
Spanish because we have a lot of Latino immigrants around the US
waynehastings@reddit
When I was in high school, the big push was for Russian. They were going to be the next big international partner/adversary. Then the Soviet Union fell, and they were greatly diminished. I doubt anyone in my graduating class who took Russian are thankful for the experience.
I didn't like the Spanish teacher at my school, having had him for English.
So I opted for two years of Latin. And I'm glad I did, because now I can spell anything. It has served me well.
But I think a lot of people take Spanish, next French, and some German.
Gold-Vanilla5591@reddit
In my experience Russian is only taught at universities or ritzy private schools.
Living_Fig_6386@reddit
When I was a student, Spanish was by far the most widely taught foreign language in American schools, and I believe that is still the case. At the time, I remember being told that Spanish was the most common non-English language spoken at home and that over 1/3rd of Americans that are not native Spanish speakers study Spanish at some point.
SonuvaGunderson@reddit
My school system made a couple years of French available before high school.
But once I got to high school, I switched to Spanish. It’s just a much more practical language to know. Those were the only two languages available though.
Bad_RabbitS@reddit
Spanish is the most common second choice even offered, let alone taken. French I’m guessing is third, German or maybe ASL fourth?
Wild-Sky-4807@reddit
Spanish by far, but French used to be more common, Latin too. I'm so practical I took German, lol.
IvyLestrange@reddit
Usually Spanish. There are plenty of schools where this is the only language option. At my school a fair number of us did pick French in part because the Spanish class was known for having an intense amount of homework but if that hadn’t been the case I still would’ve gone with French anyways.
Ok-Abroad5887@reddit
English, 🤣...American but raised in Germany, so that was my first language. I HAD to learn English before I could even be enrolled in an American school. Times have changed...
HooptyDooDooMeister@reddit
I'm an American who went to an American school in Germany.
We had to study German. Lol
Ok-Abroad5887@reddit
K-2 was in German, 3-7 in English, 8/9 in German graduated in English. Are you connecting with B.R.A.T.S?
HooptyDooDooMeister@reddit
Yes, sir! ;D
Ok-Abroad5887@reddit
Oh good! TchüB
One_Violinist_8539@reddit
Spanish. We had French and Spanish in HS, (my brother had German) I did French lol
dinglepumpkin@reddit
I took French in elementary school and high school, and Latin for two years. 30 years ago, about half of my class took French and half took Spanish.
Now, French isn’t even offered at my grade school and everyone takes Spanish, and has the option to choose Japanese or Mandarin as a third language.
Reduak@reddit
In the early 80's, schools taught either French or Spanish & students were split 50-50.
Now, schools have way more options... my son took Latin & my daughter took Japanese, but most students take Spanish.
Zaidswith@reddit
You rarely get a choice. It's Spanish.
If you do get a choice it's Spanish, German, or French. Everything else is unusual.
loustone1955@reddit
My school only had Spanish and French and only a few people took French.
TranslatorOutside909@reddit
My guess....Spanish, ASL, French and then maybe Latin?
It seems like ASL has passed French now that colleges accept it as a language
zoppaTheDim@reddit
COBOL
saffash@reddit
I personally started with French, as my mother spoke a dialect of it to me as a child and I figured it'd be an easy A (it was). But I quickly added Spanish because it is useful in the US!
rawbface@reddit
Spanish by far. The next most popular languages are French and Latin, but they don't even come close to Spanish.
PitchLocal8326@reddit
Most student choose Spanish, I’d say French is second, followed by maybe German, or Italian (though usually only Spanish and French are offered) I live up north, closer to Quebec so I may encounter French at some point, though like everywhere in the US, Spanish is spoken far more widely.
PitchLocal8326@reddit
I also believe a couple private schools in my area offer Mandarin.
FlyByPC@reddit
Most go for Spanish -- it will be the most useful in the most places.
I took French in high school because I figured I could always pick up Spanish pretty much anywhere (and I did, in community college.)
xRVAx@reddit
Spanish and French are the most common.. sometimes people learn German or Latin
Capable-Pressure1047@reddit
Although Latin is a " dead language " it is extremely useful for vocabulary development, not to mention some basic legal and medical term. A highly respected neuropsychologist once told me every student with ADHD should take Latin as it is phonetically based ; a high percentage of those with ADHD struggle with foreign language study in schools.
feliniaCR@reddit
Most schools offer Spanish. Some offer additional languages as well, but Spanish is the most common. And since that’s the one available, that’s what most kids take. Many don’t have a choice, or at best a very limited choice.
As to what they’d prefer to take.. no clue.
TK1129@reddit
Definitely Spanish…..but i was placed in Latin. My son’s elementary school starts Spanish classes in the 3rd grade.
Only_Presentation758@reddit
Any of the schools I went to both public & private offered only 4: Spanish, French, German & Latin. Spanish was the most popular, followed by French. As to why Spanish, probably because most practical/likely to be useful here. However not one person I know ever really learned to speak another language through school classes alone.
perfectcosimagifs@reddit
I live near Quebec so french was equally popular to spanish in high school and my middle school had french but no spanish and iirc it was a required class?
Artistic_Bar1693@reddit
I remember back in 1st grade (09-10 for me) we had a Spanish class but after that year I guess they dropped Spanish from their curriculum. Funny enough I think around that time they were teaching us cursive as well but that was dropped officially by the American school system as a whole iirc. Fast forward to my high school years that’s when we were given either Spanish or French for our credited secondary language class you couldn’t pick they just dropped you in either one.
LeSkootch@reddit
Spanish. My school also offered French, German, and Latin. We had an elective Japanese course available that I took but I didn't get much out of it. It was at a local university at nighttime but was free.
AldenteAdmin@reddit
Spanish is the default until you reach high school, maybe late middle school and you can choose French or whatever alternative the district offers usually. But everyone who isn’t actually that interested in learning a new language just defaults to Spanish usually since it’s the one you were likely exposed to in early schooling.
Davmilasav@reddit
I grew up a couple of hours from Canada, so I chose French.
cuccumella@reddit
Our only options were Spanish and French. Spanish was the most popular, especially because my hometown had a large Spanish speaking population who often took it for an easy a.
I took French because I cannot for the life of my use anything even close to the correct accent for Spanish. I've since learned Italian as well. With that background in romance languages, I can understand written Spanish enough to follow signs in other countries, and can often times understand enough Spanish that is spoken to me to get the gist of what is being communicated. Still, every attempt I've made to seriously learn Spanish was unsuccessful because I truly cannot speak it.
Ok-Concert-6475@reddit
My high school offered Spanish, French and Japanese. My middle school had Spanish and French. But that was 30 years ago. My daughter's high school has Spanish, French, German and Chinese. Most kids take Spanish.
sneeds_feednseed@reddit
Spanish by a longshot
mountainbird57@reddit
Spanish and French, but it also depends regionally. Italian was very popular where I grew up because there were lots of descendants of Italian immigrants there.
HedonismIsTheWay@reddit
Growing up in small town Western Michigan, Spanish was the only option. There were no other languages taught at my school.
Low_Computer_6542@reddit
There is a shortage of teachers who can teach Latin. At the beginning of my second year, my Latin teacher had a heart attack. The class became a study hall because our school district couldn't find a replacement teacher.
Towards the end of the year they hired a new teacher, by then no one remembered any Latin. No one was able to take a third year due to this.
OhWhyNotMarie@reddit
Fun fact smaller schools only have one option. Mine was Spanish.
Courwes@reddit
Spanish French and German were the only languages offered in my high school. We had 3 Spanish teachers. One French teacher and one teacher who taught German but he only did it for one period of the day (so a total of 1 class as opposed to 6 classes like the other language teachers). This should tell you which is most commonly learned.
Donald_J_Duck65@reddit
Depends on where you live. When I was growing up it was Spanish. After I married we moved away and there was a large Portuguese population so Portuguese was the most common.
We expected our children to go into a scientific field and thought Chinese would benefit them the most so they took four years of that. Even in college it benefited them.
einsteinGO@reddit
I learned French and while I don’t regret it at all (it led to some of my greatest memories), I wish I’d been forced to learn Spanish too. Because now I have picked up some by listening, I can’t speak it and would have to put in effort to learn it
And it would have greater utility in this country.
nvkylebrown@reddit
I'm most familiar with C++, but others have other preferences.
RickySlayer9@reddit
Spanish by far
Anachronism--@reddit
Spanish with French as a distant second but I am not very far from the French speaking part of Canada.
Ineffable7980x@reddit
Spanish is by far the most useful second language to most Americans.
Intelligent-Camera90@reddit
In eastern MA, I took Spanish in high school, plus a semester of French. Those were the only 2 languages offered, but there was something like 40 different languages spoken at the school.
In college, I took Hebrew (after 10 years of Hebrew school after secular school).
New_Reality2312@reddit
Zero foreign language was available until high school in my urban district. In the single sex Roman Catholic HS there was heavy pressure to take Latin. French and Spanish were also available but looked down on. Again we were highly encouraged to take Greek after year 1 on the off chance one of us would go to RC seminary.
Perfect-Jicama-626@reddit
Definitely regional. Central PA German. NYC burbs Fren h, Spanish, and Mandarin.
Turdle_Vic@reddit
Spanish. It’s easily the most useful on a day-by-day basis for most of the country
officialwhitecobra@reddit
Most people do Spanish, some do French
HermioneMarch@reddit
Most schools only offer Spanish and French. Maybe German or Latin. Spanish is the most practical for us and what most students take.
Accomplished_Mix7827@reddit
Overwhelmingly Spanish. It's the language spoken in 90% of nearby countries, and it's by far the most commonly spoken language in the US outside of English, due to immigrants from those same countries.
GutterRider@reddit
In the 70s in Wisconsin, my HS language options were … French. No German, which I had taken at another school in 9th grade. No Spanish.
If you didn’t want to take French, you could take Art classes instead.
genuine_counterfeit@reddit
As others have said, it’s Spanish and it’s not even close.
In my high school there were about 2,000 total students who were required to take two years of a language. At this school there was probably 4 or 5 Spanish teachers, but only one French teacher and one German teacher, if that paints a clear image about volume of Spanish learners compared to others.
LostSoul46007@reddit
Mainer here, French I think surpasses Spanish up here, I think most people gravitate to whatever your exposed to the most
reflectorvest@reddit
Spanish, and I had to get a permission slip signed in 8th grade to take French instead
StretchJazzlike6122@reddit
I went to a private Jewish school so Hebrew was the only (required, all years) option.
There was an Italian language elective but that was before I went to that school, it was no longer offered when I went.
tn00bz@reddit
Spanish because it is the second most common language spoken in the united states and nearly every country south of us in the western hemisphere. Most students will have two years of a foreign language in high school as a graduation requirement, but many students do go on to become proficient in spanish. French is also relatively popular.
makeherbeg4it@reddit
GenZ vernacular.
Ok_Kiwi8365@reddit
Its definitely Spanish. I had mandatory Spanish classes from Kindergarten through 5th grade. No language class was required in middle school though many students still took Spanish. In high school two years of a language class was required. My school offered Spanish, French, Latin, and German. Nearly everyone took Spanish. I chose Latin. In college, my degree (history) required three semesters of a language class. A plurality of folks chose Spanish though people were more inclined to choose a language relevant to their research interest. I chose French.
I spent high school and college learning languages other than Spanish only to marry a woman whose first language is Spanish and whose family can't speak English. Goes to show that the people who took Spanish when they had the chance were wiser than me.
Important_Canary6766@reddit
In the schools I went to you either had to pick French or Spanish, and in the US obviously Spanish makes a lot more sense to learn.
Free_Four_Floyd@reddit
Spanish is the most logical, but in my professional life, French would have been by far more useful.
HooptyDooDooMeister@reddit
Did you always want to be a baguette maker? Haha
Katsaj@reddit
Spanish was the only language offered at my small town school 30+ years ago, and I suspect that hasn’t changed since then.
Signal-Weight8300@reddit
I'm a teacher in Chicago. I could find a dozen languages spoken in a day near me, but Spanish is everywhere. I need a little bit every day.
I bet a third of my students are native Spanish speakers. Between schools that I've taught at and my own children's schools, Spanish and Latin and the languages offered. Two full years of a foreign language classes are mandatory here, with three or four years encouraged.
NatsFan8447@reddit
Spanish. Spanish is widely spoken in the US and has great literature to read.
ambernoire13@reddit
What are some of your favorite Spanish books or stories?
NatsFan8447@reddit
One Hundred Years of Solitude, Love in the Time of Cholera, Pedro Paramo.
MakeStupidHurtAgain@reddit
Spanish. There are millions of Spanish speakers in the U.S. and even having the basics can help bridge communication gaps. Some jobs also pay more if you can show a certain level of Spanish.
Kal_Talos@reddit
My high school offered Spanish, French, German, and Latin. You could take 2 years of one language and then 2 years of another, or 3 years of one language. I opted for 3 years of French.
Far-Air3908@reddit
Definitely Spanish. Most Americans know extremely basic Spanish, like how to greet or thank someone. I took German and my class had 14 people for the 3 years I took it, while the Spanish class had two teachers who primarily taught Spanish, and I lived in a mostly white city, so it wasn’t just Spanish-speaking people taking the classes. It’s the most useful second language to know as an American
TemperMe@reddit
Spanish
It’s the 2nd most spoken language here, we have a high population of Spanish speakers here, it’s also widely spoken throughout Central and Southern America which are hemisphere
maes629@reddit
When I was in high school we only had two choices, Spanish or German. If you took German you could go on an exchange program to Germany your junior year for three weeks, and then host a German kid the next year. Spanish did not have the same opportunity. So surprisingly German was actually the most popular in my school.
Tinkerfan57912@reddit
Spanish it usually the only lang offered these days.
famousanonamos@reddit
Everyone is saying Spanish, which is accurate, however it isn't always because that's what they "want," so much as it's the most common, and sometimes only, language offered. My parents made me take Spanish because it would be more useful here, especially being in California, but I really wanted to take German. If ASL had been offered, I probably would have done that, but had to wait til college.
Smolmanth@reddit
Spanish, but most don’t take it till middle school and because it’s the Spain(original) dialect it’s not very viable for use. It’s so different from the Spanish they encounter everyday (Mexican, Dominican, Salvadoran, ect.)
Also very little time is spent on learning speaking so it not learned to level that allows for genuine fluency for most.
onyxrose81@reddit
When I went to high school a long time ago, it was Spanish, French and German as the languages taught (I'm not sure if anything else was even offered). I live in Texas and Texas used to have a large German-speaking populace. The driver's ed teacher was the German teacher. Shout out to Mr. Mayer.
an_edgy_lemon@reddit
Spanish. Most schools offer spanish as a second language and nothing else. Some offer French, German, or Chinese. Even fewer offer random outliers like Japanese.
segascream@reddit
Depends on what languages the school offers. My high school only offered Spanish and French, but my oldest's high school also offered German and Japanese.
OreoPirate55@reddit
I remember French being an option but like 1/4 to 1/5 of my high school class did French. Majority went for Spanish or dropped a foreign language after 2 years
Bulocoo@reddit
I took German for 3 years. Waste of time. Should have done Spanish.
Ironically all the Latino kids took Spanish but failed because they were terrible at grammar.
Da1UHideFrom@reddit
Spanish. My high school also offered German, Japanese, French, and Latin. I took Japanese.
Snezzy_9245@reddit
The ones who like hard work take Latin.
ProperQuiet5867@reddit
Spanish was a required elective from kindergarten until 8th grade in my district. After that the choices were Spanish, Latin or French in high school. I took Latin.
In my kid's school, foreign languages don't start until high school. The choices here are Spanish, German, and Italian. The Spanish teacher is mean and gives a ton of work. The German teacher is sweet. She gives prizes and runs her classroom with a bunch of silly activities. The Italian teacher offers a trip to Italy every 4 years for her students. Most kids at this school take German or Italian.
Littleboypurple@reddit
Nothing will ever overcome the reigning King of second Languages in School that is Spanish. It is easily the most commonly taught Foreign Language in schools. It is rare for a public school districts to have foreign language classes yet not have Spanish as an option in any of their schools.
Hello_Hangnail@reddit
We only got a choice of spanish french and german
Current_Poster@reddit
This is one of those times I will full-throatedly say I made a wrong call in school: In middle school they gave me a choice between French and Spanish. By just how it works, it would be what I studied through the end of High School. And because of how demographics were where I lived at the time (I grew up in southern NH and there were a lot of French-speaking people living there when I was a kid), I went with French.
Bad move. I am much more likely to run into someone who speaks Spanish and no English than I am someone who speaks French and no English.
jamiesugah@reddit
I took French because French students had the opportunity to go to France (which I did my junior year). Spanish students went nowhere. But most kids at my school only took the required two years anyway.
LeastInsurance8578@reddit
TBH they should learn English as a second language because American is not English
lsp2005@reddit
Spanish is the top choice for a foreign language. Then in an extremely distant second it is French. Schools in the north east also offer Italian and Latin. Other classes may be German or Chinese. If there is a majority minority population, sometimes that is the foreign language offered in that region.
juiceman730@reddit
We were taught Spanish in elementary. My junior high offered Spanish and French so I took Spanish because I thought thats the one I realistically use. Didn't have to take any language in HS because I had my credits from junior high.
My younger brother took Chinese in HS.
Drivo566@reddit
My high school taught Spanish, French, and Russian.
Spanish was the most popular. The teacher that taught French and Russian died like two months into the school year though... so they only ended up teaching Spanish.
No_Scar3212@reddit
I think it depends on where you live. If you live near Canada, it makes sense to take French.
TipsyBaker_@reddit
Not really a preference, more like what's available at that school. Most I've dealt with offer Spanish and maybe 1 other. I also know maybe 2 people who ended up actually able to use that language
CTeam19@reddit
Sometimes, it isn't a preference but the only option, but it is Spanish. My Dad's only option was Spanish. I had German(I took it), French(sister took), and Spanish options growing up.
RoseHawkechik@reddit
Kinda depends on where you are. I believe French is popular in the North and Northeast because of Quebec, Spanish pretty much everywhere else as it's what you're more likely, as others have said, to come in contact with.
supern8ural@reddit
For me, Spanish would make the most sense because I ended up in an area where it's probably the most commonly spoken foreign language and also more relevant there's a lot of Hispanic electricians.
I wanna say in high school I had the choice of French, Spanish, and German and I picked French, I can still speak a little but I think the last time I used it "in the wild" I had to tell some African dude begging for money that I was probably just as broke as he was.
shutupimrosiev@reddit
In grade school and high school (so, as a legal child), the only options I had available were Spanish and German. My first Spanish teachers were great at knowing Spanish but abysmal at actually teaching it, so I switched to German the instant I had the chance. I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority, though.
Slight_Manufacturer6@reddit
Spanish because it is a common language in the country.
MiserableEase2348@reddit
I took German because at the time it was considered the language for people who intended to study science or technology. I think that reasoning would apply to a lot of languages today, including Mandarin and Japanese.
stratusmonkey@reddit
So most students take Spanish, but IDK how many students have a choice. At least at the high school level. If a school or school district is going to have only one program, it'll be Spanish.
TurnDown4WattGaming@reddit
Americans prefer not to learn a second language; they sign up for one because it’s required; lots of schools only offer Spanish, so that one will be winner by default.
ComputerGuyInNOLA@reddit
I think it depends on where you live in the US. I went to HS near Cleveland and everyone took German because of the huge German population. Now I live in New Orleans where they teach Spanish because of the large Spanish population. In Cleveland, and I assume elsewhere, we were given the option of German, French, and Spanish as an elective.
ComesInAnOldBox@reddit
The Big Three are Spanish, French, and German. It depends on where you are in the country, but Spanish is the most common, then French.
You'll find a smattering of other languages, too, again depending on the region, but those three are the most common.
mournfulroses@reddit
Spanish by far is the most picked. My high school had, at each level, 4 Spanish classes of 30 students each, French with 2, and German with 1. There were even 1st generation Hispanic students taking the Spanish courses because they could speak but not read or write the language. I didn't take Spanish only because my parents were adamant about having their children knowing how to do all three, so I took 6 years of French instead
Fire_Mission@reddit
Spanish. Most common second language in our area, so most useful second language.
pumpkinbubbles@reddit
French and Spanish because most public schools haven't expanded their offerings any time this century. Madarin in either private schoold or outside enrichment programs seems to be popular in wealthy areas. In most areas, Spanish is probably the most practical choice but it'd be nice to see more options.
Tankieforever@reddit
My high school had a particularly good German program, including an exchange program and a “sister” school in Germany, as well as German electives like a German Theater program where we went to competitions, etc, so it was common among students who wanted to actually learn something. But that was an unusual exception. French was useful since we were close to Quebec, but the French teacher was actually an English teacher who happened to be from Canada, likewise our only Spanish teacher had her teaching credentials as a history teacher but was a native Spanish speaker and was the only one they could find to offer the program. So neither of the other options were great since the people in charge weren’t actually trained to TEACH the language they were teaching.
Genepoolperfect@reddit
It's more of a question about what is offerred.
In my middle school we were offerred French or Spanish.
In my kids middle school they have French, Spanish, Italian, Japanese. They also have clubs for Hebrew & Chinese. My kids have had Spanish language introduced to them in daycare & had 5 years of Spanish in elementary school. For kids who don't care about proficiency in another language, generally they'll just continue on with Spanish. My kids decided to do Italian & Japanese. They're also doing additional language practice with Duolingo & Babbel. They are not the norm.
My husband took Latin at his school.
We're all NYers born & raised.
AMac50000@reddit
Spanish mainly. American schools usually don't have too many language options. My school only offered Spanish, French and Latin.
martlet1@reddit
Interesting thing from an old tv show Little House on the Prarie. The rich lady in town thought they should teach French. The teacher said that would be a good idea if they lived closer to Canada but Spanish was better for Kansas because of the Mexican farm hands.
wieldymouse@reddit
My guess is Spanish. I took three years of French.
LongOrganization7838@reddit
Usually Spanish but the options really depend on who the school can get their hands on
muphasta@reddit
Spanish
German
French
Mandarin
Latin
Elivagara@reddit
It's often less what we prefer and more what is on offer. I went to two high-schools, my only option in either was Spanish.
DannyDanumba@reddit
Spanish followed by French
Push_the_button_Max@reddit
My mother was the Foreign Language Department Chair at a well-regarded High School in the Los Angeles Area for many years, and she oversaw many changes as time passed, mainly because of our Pacific Coast location.
Prior to, and during the 80s, high level high schools around here offered Spanish, French, German, and Latin, with Spanish being the most popular.
German had been popular because it was considered the “international business language,” (like French was the International diplomatic language.)
Partly because Toyota and Honda made their headquarters in the South Bay of Los Angeles, Japanese became requested, and it was offered, and quickly became the second most popular language (after Spanish.)
German was dropped for lack of interest, and now Mandarin and Korean are offered as well.
Spanish is still #1 (after all, this WAS Mexico), but Japanese, Chinese, French, Korean, and Latin are all offered.
When I was a student teacher in Boston in the early 2000’s) Latin was popular, and French, Italian, Spanish, & Russian was offered.
Both_Painter_9186@reddit
When I was a kid in the north east like 30 years ago- Spanish, French, and German were the only choices. I’d say like 50% took Spanish, 30% French, 20% German. It’s probably like 80-90% Spanish now because Spanish is more useful day to day in the US and its probably waaaay easier to get Spanish teachers.
In college in the early 2000s it opened up slightly to ASL, and Portuguese, but we didn’t offer any of the super complicated languages like Russian or Chinese at my small liberal arts college.
Sassifrassically@reddit
Kinda depends on what the school offers. But most schools offer Spanish so that’s probably going to be the most popular.
While I was there my school offered German (another popular one and this is what I took. The year I graduated though my teacher retired and I don’t know if they hired anyone else), Spanish, French, and Italian.
I did hear that my HS had Japanese a year after I left from the kids who took it with me when I went to the community college.
WhichWitch9402@reddit
The high school in my district started offering Japanese because we had a big Japanese car manufacturing plant for 15 years. We’re in the middle of corn and cows in IL.
The plant is now owned by an American car company so Japanese isn’t really offered anymore. Spanish is probably the most commonly chosen language. There has been a push for Hindi as we have a large Indian population too.
stephanne423@reddit
Mostly Spanish, although I’d say what is learned is minimal at best. I took Latin (and ended up teaching it for a while). My high school had French, Spanish, and Latin. I think now they have Spanish and German, but I’m not up to date on that because they cut the Latin program shortly after I started teaching
MattieShoes@reddit
Spanish. French probably second most popular but it's not close.
If we go back 80+ years, certain languages were associated with certain fields of study -- engineers learned German, mathematicians learned French, etc. That's all but disappeared as English has become the most dominant language in those fields.
amellia-j@reddit
Spanish was the only option at my semi-rural Southern high-school. Though in elementary school, a French-Canadian teacher took it upon herself to offer after-school French lessons which was fun.
Danloeser@reddit
I went for French and got teased about it by my friends who took Spanish. But honestly? Between Sesame Street and bilingual signage / packaging / menus etc., I managed to pick up a fair bit of Spanish on my own. Enough for any situation I've ever found myself in in the US.
ilovjedi@reddit
My parents made me learn Spanish in school because they were doctors and worked with a lot of spanish speaking clients in the City (Chicago). But jokes on them because I moved to Maine which is like the only state where Spanish isn't the second most commonly spoken language. And in college I did East Asian History so I took Japanese. My high school offered German and Latin and Japanese and maybe Chinese in addition to Spanish and French. But Spanish and French were my only options in Middle School. I should have done Latin though because I am a lawyer now.
yearofplenty@reddit
Grew up in Maine and we learned French through grade school. Other languages weren't available until high school, where I ended up taking Spanish because it was the "second most commonly spoken language in the country". Sticking with French would have been a lot more useful to me as a Mainer.
beyondplutola@reddit
I grew up in Manchester, NH which is heavily French Canadian. Wish I paid more attention to French through grade school, especially now that I’m waiting on my Canadian citizen by descent application to go through.
hivemind_MVGC@reddit
Upstate NY, our only choices, generally, are French or Spanish.
TheGabyDali@reddit
Most students go for Spanish but depending on where you live there are definitely more options. The high school I went to offered spanish, French, German, Japanese and Italian. I know they offer Mandarin now.
ShoddyCobbler@reddit
Spanish is the most common. I personally took American Sign Language. My high school offered Spanish, French, ASL, German, and Japanese.
captainstormy@reddit
Spanish and it's not even close.
Unless you have a personal connection to group that speaks a foreign language (other than Spanish) Spanish is the only one you are likely to run into on the regular.
Personally I took Spanish in middle school, high school and college. I'd never claim to be native levels of fluent by any means but when I have traveled to Mexico or Spain I've always gotten along very well.
ArizonaKim@reddit
When I was in school, Spanish, German, and French were all offered. I am not sure what was most popular. Maybe Spanish.
slicedchicken480@reddit
Spanish though it ends up being Spain spanish.
_Internet_Hugs_@reddit
I think it depends on where you live and what's available. When I was in school in Arizona everyone took Spanish for at least a year because it was the only language available at my Jr. High. Once we got to high school the options opened up. My school offered French and German in addition to Spanish, and the other high schools in the area offered ASL, Russian, Latin, and Italian. The Russian class was rare, there just happened to be a teacher who mainly taught another subject but was from Russia and was convinced to try teaching the language. It wasn't my school, so I don't know how it turned out.
Physical-Incident553@reddit
Spanish
jaybaybabe21@reddit
I went to a bougie public school in Northern California and we had access to multiple languages including Spanish, French, Italian, German and Japanese. 80% took Spanish, the rest split into the remaining. I personally took two years of Japanese. I was heavy in my anime phase so it all worked out.
VanillaCavendish@reddit
My high school offered Spanish, French, German and Japanese. Spanish was the most popular.
VanillaCavendish@reddit
Wait a minute. They also offered Italian.
AngelGirl768@reddit
Spanish was literally the only option
craftyrunner@reddit
My kids’ large CA high school currently offers: 6 years of Spanish (kids can start in 7th grade) 4 years French 4 years Latin 4 years Japanese
They also offer a Spanish for Spanish speakers track that merges into the regular track at some point.
They used to offer German and Mandarin but both have been cancelled in the last 10 years.
penguinwasteland1414@reddit
Usually spanish and French.
edemberly41@reddit
Español 😄
Ravenclaw79@reddit
Depends on where you live and what languages are offered. It’s a pretty even split here between French and Spanish.
sneradicus@reddit
Almost always Spanish, followed by French, then Latin, then German, then Italian. Most schools only offer Spanish and even top schools may only offer 2-3 other languages than Spanish.
Alternative-Tea-39@reddit
Definitely Spanish, followed by French, and then probably followed my Latin if I had to guess.
Commercial-Diet553@reddit
On the East Coast my kids had a choice of Spanish, French, Chinese (can't recall which), or Latin. for some reason my son chose Latin. He and his friends were super nerdy and would talk to each other in bad Latin. Funny. My daughter chose French and I choose Spanish when I was a kid in Oregon.
avicia@reddit
Echoing everyone else - spanish is the most common. We honestly just don't get much chance to practice anything else in most parts of the US, and it's the one you'll most like encounter in a workplace. Others that are options - latin is getting less common and available, there aren't as many latin teachers - a lot of school systems don't have it available at all and many colleges are dropping their classics programs. A latin teacher friend told me it's getting increasingly difficult to teach as most students arrive not well educated in english grammar so teaching latin grammar is a struggle. French is common, and with waves of french speaking carribbean and african immigrants, teachers are available. Chinese and Arabic are promoted by government programs both US and foreign, so you can find them more often in recent years, and in low cost summer programs. A lot of kids are interested in Japanese and Korean for pop culture. German and Italian and ASL also appear a lot in secondary schools. Most schools don't invest a lot in their language programs.
baddspellar@reddit
Spanish is fairly easy for native english speakers, and very useful to learn. My high school offered spanish, french, and italian. The latter was popular becuase there was a very large percentage of Italian Americans in my school. My kids' school offers mandarin chinese instead of Italian, plus Latin.
West-Improvement2449@reddit
Spanish is encouraged to take. It's basically America's second language
BouncingSphinx@reddit
Also, it's not only common to learn a second language but usually required. My school required two years of a foreign language.
Relevant_Airline7076@reddit
I took Latin because while I’m decent at reading other languages, my tongue does not like speaking them
ObiDalf@reddit
It may be wild for you to understand but in a lot of schools, including my own, IF any was offered, it was only Spanish.
SingingNina@reddit
Spanish. But when I was in school, you were assigned a language in 7th grade based upon your rank. The ‘smarter’ kids had to take French. The others, Spanish. You could add another language in hs. Now many more languages are offered, from Hebrew to Mandarin to German.
38RocksInATrenchCoat@reddit
Spanish. Half my class was kids that already knew Spanish but needed the language credit.
AyAyAyBamba_462@reddit
Spanish is often the default and is often the only language taught.
worldslamestgrad@reddit
Spanish, then a huge gap, then French, then a smaller but still sizable gap, then German/Chinese/Latin/Italian/Japanese/ASL/Other random languages.
Spanish is by far the most applicable which is why people choose it. Parts of Mexico are popular tourist destinations for Americans, as well as parts of America have a large Spanish speaking population (especially the southern and western US).
Extra_Shirt5843@reddit
Spanish is the most sensible in the US. I took French and regret it.
SmallKillerCrow@reddit
Spanish and French are common
Lots of anime fans wants Japanese but it's never an option
Efficient-Panic3506@reddit
Spanish, and it’s not even close. It’s the most useful day-to-day in the US and almost every school offers it.
BouncingSphinx@reddit
Spanish is probably the most commonly offered. My small school only offered Spanish classes, but a couple of my friends were able to take other language classes instead through online courses. One actually took Latin, and at least two others did French instead.
redjessa@reddit
In most public schools, the options are Spanish and French.
Khaleesi_dany_t@reddit
My school only offered Spanish cause it's not a rich school district and there's not a lot of other languages we would encounter in our area with any kind of regularity. My college alhad more options but Spanish was required for my major.
Can someone from North west Arkansas chime in here, particularly around Springdale, do y'all learn mashallese in school? Is it a language option?
Prestigious_Egg_1989@reddit
At the high school I went to, Spanish was by far the most popular. Though when they started offering American Sign Language, that seemed to have become the go-to class for kids who needed to take a language class but wanted the easiest option (not realizing that ASL is its own kind of difficult and not in fact a blow-off class).
StupidLemonEater@reddit
Spanish, far and away.
French and German are also commonly offered.
guywithshades85@reddit
I wanted to learn Portuguese but that wasn't an option in school. So I had to do Spanish.
Independent-Dark-955@reddit
My kids have taken both Spanish and Mandarin.
Ok-Ambassador8271@reddit
What do they prefer? Or what is offered? Because depending on what part of the US you are in, the answer is different. Most of the Southern tier states and western states find Spanish the most preferred. Many in the Midwest & northern tier states seem to prefer German, but Spanish is by far and away the number one 2nd language taught throughout the nation.
PA_MallowPrincess_98@reddit
Spanish or Latin
Practical-Ordinary-6@reddit
We should probably explain that part of that is not just the prevalence of Spanish speakers but the common belief among students (at least in my day) that Spanish was the easiest, relative to French and German, which were the other very common options in my time. Deserved or not, lots of people made the decision on which language to take based on that, and not any real interest or belief in the usefulness of Spanish for its own sake. German was definitely considered the hardest of those three and had much smaller numbers opting for it.
Atlas7993@reddit
My high school only offered two languages when I was there - Spanish and French. It was a pretty even split. I learned they started offering German instead of French, and now it is pretty heavily Spanish.
MantisToboganPilotMD@reddit
my public elementary school taught us Russian starting in 1st grade, I didn't have to take a foreign language in college because I had finished it by early high school. this is pretty much unheard of though, the school doesn't even exist anymore.
Beneficial_Layer2583@reddit
It’s actually incredibly uncommon. Only about 20% of K - 12 schools in the states teach foreign language.
When it is taught, it is usually Spanish, which makes perfect sense. Sometimes you’ll see French or German.
Slotter-that-Kid@reddit
My school back in the 80s taught Spanish or French, neither of which I thought had need in my part of the world. I ended up being classically trained in French cooking and working in kitchens where it only helps to know Spanish.
dystopiadattopia@reddit
A lot of students think Spanish is easiest, so they take Spanish
Flimsy_Equal8841@reddit
I took French. I thought I might visit Quebec sometime. I never did. I did learn some Spanish from co-workers though. I did visit our neighbors to the south.
rockninja2@reddit
Spanish and French.
Spanish due to the large number of Spanish speaking people and countries in the vicinity kf the US (as well as popularity for vacationing).
French because people romanticize it and it is also spoken in parts of Canada, which is also popular to visit, especially for people close to the borders.
Also most schools have those by default. Depending the school, other languages may or may not be offered, so you might not even have a choice other than those two.
Unfortunately, as the saying goes, "use it or lose it," and the fact is most people don't use a foreign language with enough regularity to keep up their skills, so the majority probably only have a basic speaking ability. Hearing and understanding can be better retained, as it is easier to find media in the target language or come across it, at least a little bit, in everyday life.
ground__contro1@reddit
Lots of rural/smaller schools don’t have the ability to offer many different languages. Often it’s Spanish + something locally relevant. Often Spanish + German in the Midwest.
I would have taken ASL if that were available but it was not.
StretchJazzlike6122@reddit
Spanish and French are most common
Longjumping_Ant7025@reddit
I want to point out that a lot of schools may only offer 1 or 2 language choices, so the word prefer may not be accurate here since a lot of American students don't have a lot of choice.
scruffye@reddit
People are going to keep saying Spanish and I think comes from a) our very large Spanish speaking population throughout the country and b) a lot of students have to take Spanish starting around age 12. It's not until high school (age 14\~) that you get the possibility to choose which second language class you take if your school offers them. A lot of students just stick with Spanish since they've already started; you have to make a conscious decision to switch over to French or German or whatever and start from 0. Also, people can keep me honest, but I don't think most high schools require 4 years of language education. So if you only care about doing the bare minimum to meet the requirement, sticking with Spanish is the path of least resistance.
Enough-Secretary-996@reddit
Plus especially for people in smaller towns, Spanish is sometimes the only option (that's how it was for me)
AlarmedWillow4515@reddit
Spanish for most people, including me. My daughter did Latin in High School though because she wanted to go into a science
msackeygh@reddit
As second language in school, Spanish is probably most common for American students. After that, it might be between French and German?
InterviewLeast882@reddit
Spanish by far.
Western_Nebula9624@reddit
Definitely Spanish. At many high schools that's the only option.
SassySucculent23@reddit
The overwhelming majority of students take Spanish since it's also spoken so much here.
My school only offered 2 classes, Spanish and French. There were like 5 or 6 Spanish class periods and only 1 French class period for each grade, until junior and senior years of high school when you could take either the regular French class or an accelerated one for college credit where you did 2 semesters/2 levels in one year.
There were multiple Spanish teachers to cover all of the classes for each grade since we're talking 5-6 classes for each year (freshman, sophomore, etc.), but only 1 French teacher who taught for every grade.
olde_meller23@reddit
It's always funny when people try to talk shit in Spanish here, not realizing that most Americans know at least some Spanish and many are fully fluent. Even the white folks.
Watch what you say or you might get embarrassed by a pasty white dude in loafers. I've seen it many times. Chances are, if you walk into any place, you're best off assuming that there is a one in four chance the person you'd least expect can understand every word you say, including the filthy ones.
riversroadsbridges@reddit
Spanish is the last language to be cut in schools that are eliminating foreign languages and the first to be added in schools that are starting a foreign language program. There are many reasons for this, but a basic one is that it's easier to find and retain a Spanish teacher in the US than, for example, a Mandarin teacher.
ThousandsHardships@reddit
Spanish, because there are a lot of native and heritage Spanish speakers around. I grew up in California, and many businesses operate in Spanish by default. If you go to any Denny's or IHOP, all the servers are speaking in Spanish to each other and to any customer they hear Spanish from or that they think might look Mexican. If you hire a moving company, a good chance they operate in Spanish. If you call a medical office, you'll have an option to speak to someone in Spanish. Documents are often provided in a Spanish version, including voting ballots. Chinese has a similar status in places like California, but the thing about Chinese vs. Spanish is that if you take a beginning Spanish class, chances are the majority of your class are actually beginners, and your teacher is a native speaker actually trained in language pedagogy. If you take a beginning Chinese class, chances are that almost everybody in your class grew up speaking Chinese with their family, and your teacher is the math teacher who took a subject matter competency test in Chinese.
99_glocks@reddit
Spanish
The Spanish language, whether some want to be believe it or not, is a part of American culture.
It benefited me greatly to learn the language and later be in places like South Florida, Texas and Southern California, in addition to Latin American countries.
venus_arises@reddit
In seventh grade, when the choice was provided (I was excluded since I was still learning English), half a class of students chose French. The teacher accepted it as her fate and was very cheerful about it, but Spanish was seen as the more useful, sensible option.
That middle school fed into a bigger high school that had Latin, German, and Hebrew (along with Hebrew and French) as options, so some kids chose other languages, either for fun or because they wanted the easy A of Hebrew (big local Jewish population).
I switched high schools in tenth grade, and we had four language choices (but no Latin, since the school was a little poorer).
Bootmacher@reddit
Spanish, but I did German. I'm very white, and no one will believe I don't speak English if I start speaking Spanish to them, which was ths selling point for German.
The students who learn German and French tend to learn more of the language in the class though, because they're prestige languages and those taking the class tend to be interested in language in the abstract.
My school had Chinese as an option, and only one student didn't already speak Chinese. It was basically for children of Chinese immigrants to learn it academically.
Hybrid487@reddit
A lot of us are forced into spanish
SBG214@reddit
My kids learned Mandarin and French, but Spanish was also offered.
lacaras21@reddit
Spanish without a doubt. French and German are tied for second most common here, but I imagine French is more common than German in most of the country, German gets more interest in Wisconsin largely because of heritage/culture.
nowhereman136@reddit
Spanish is far an away the most common second language. It's not only top 3 world languages, it's the second most common in the US. Half the kids in my high school Spanish class spoke Spanish natively at home already.
After that, French, German, Mandarin, and Latin are pretty common in American high schools, although this greatly depends on the individual school district.
Some high schools might have Italian, Portuguese, Japanese, or Russian, but this isn't that common
Once you get into college, tons language options open up depending on what school you go to
apcb4@reddit
The options I’ve seen at most schools are Spanish, French, and German. In my experience, 80% of students take Spanish. It’s seen as the easiest and most useful choice. French is seen as slightly more difficult and mostly taken by girls. German is the hardest and mostly taken by boys. Obviously, it’s not entirely split by gender lines, but my French classes were always 75% girls at least.
Available_Reveal8068@reddit
We had a choice of Spanish or French.
Most took Spanish.
Mistletokes@reddit
Puedo hablar Espanol aber meine Deutsche es nicht so gut
lemonsdealbreaker@reddit
Spanish, then French. Some areas were heavily populated by certain immigrants so some places also have students choose Polish or German for example.
Crayshack@reddit
Spanish is the most common. My high school also offered French, German, and Latin (I've heard Latin is more unusual as an option). I've also heard that Chinese and Arabic are fairly common as options in some schools.
Personally, I took German under the logic that as the closest related to English, it would be the easiest. I now speak German better than my brother and sister speak Spanish (the language they took). I will say that my undergrad mad3 me regret not taking Latin, and nowadays my Latin is better than my Spanish.
Prestigious-Talk1112@reddit
The vast majority of schools only offer two languages and they are Spanish or French. You don't get offered until middle school and many don't have an opportunity until high school.
For the most part it's a trash way of teaching language and nobody ever comes out of class knowing anything more than very basics and you never hear the language spoken much at all often the teacher doesn't even have partial fluency.
A_Tatertot@reddit
I ended up going with German, my mom’s mom immigrated from Germany and it was fun to speak with her some! Most folks opt for Spanish though
fl0wbie@reddit
grew up in the US, bordering Quebec. French.
Amazing_Divide1214@reddit
I went with spanish since Mexico is closeby.
DeltaFlyer0525@reddit
Spanish by far is the most useful to learn here. At my high school we were only offered Spanish and French.
olde_meller23@reddit
Midwest here, Wisconsin. Many schools and universities offer Hmong as well as Spanish, as there are large populations that speak it. Hmong is especially desirable for social workers and hospital translators in the VA system, as many Hmong are elderly veterans. Hmong language and traditions are taught via word of mouth, and a tremendous amount of work has been done by Hmong students associations to preserve the language and customs in writing. There is a significant need for young Hmong speakers in Minnesota, wisconsin, and Upper Michigan.
Many places also offer classes for Anishinaabemowin (Ojibwe) now, spoken by the fist nations people of the great lakes. There has been a ton of really cool work done to revive it and we now have first nations children growing up with it being their first language. It's really moving, especially when you have indigenous homies saying happy birthday to you in a language that people tried to destroy.
Tricky-Morning4799@reddit
In my area, Japanese is popular.
Common-Project3311@reddit
Most of them don’t even learn English, much less a second language. Me and my brother seen this over and over again. -
Gini555@reddit
The small school I attended only had Spanish as a choice.
prosperosniece@reddit
Because I grew up in a region with a strong French heritage I learned French and it was our only option for a foreign language from elementary school until 9th grade (low funded, inter city, forced bussing.) So I’m not fluent but have a decent grasp of French.
Spanish is the most practical and that’s what my kids are taking but I’d love to be more proficient in Sigh Language.
Dzhakinoff@reddit
Usually Spanish or French, but French is essentially useless whereas there’s a bunch more Mexicans than French people or Canadians in the US
kurai-tsuki@reddit
A lot of schools will offer German or French or maybe Chinese, but the one you'll actually use in the US is Spanish
sphoebus@reddit
As already said countless times, definitely Spanish. I took French because of family ties to Quebec And more of an interest in it. But i would probably take Spanish if I could do it again. At least Spanish speakers don’t turn their nose up at you for trying to learn their language lol.
HurtsCauseItMatters@reddit
Prefer to learn and end up taking due to "usefulness" are two different questions. They may end up being the same answer but honestly there's no way to know.
I got told how much of a waste (repeatedly) it was to study French and i did it anyway. Not sure how prevalent that experience is or if I'm a one-off or not.
Any-Concentrate-1922@reddit
Spanish would be most popular and most useful, living in the US.
I took French--my school only offered Spanish or French. Some schools also offer Mandarin Chinese, and I think some offer German, Italian, and Latin. But a lot of it depends on the size of the school and its budget.
Muvseevum@reddit
Most likely Spanish. I took French.
Shadow_Lass38@reddit
It used to be French way back, but now it's Spanish. I understand completely--so many billboards now in my community in Spanish, Spanish-speaking folks moving into the neighborhoods, so many of the service people who come to your house--repair companies, HVAC inspectors, lawn zervices--are Spanish-speaking.
BookLuvr7@reddit
Here, Spanish is the most practical. Then French. It varies depending on where in the country they are, though.
bryslittlelady@reddit
All three of my kids have taken Spanish, it was the only language offered. When I was in high school I took 4 years of Latin 3 years of French and one year of Spanish
Mysterious-Art8838@reddit
Spanish. My HS offered Spanish (1) French (2) German (3) and Latin which was basically nobody but a few students that thought it would help them become doctors. That was in the 1990s.
The US has come a long way since then. I had a coworker that went to an immersion elementary school and was taught in Chinese. It didn’t sound like it was going that well but I’m sure after a few years she would get up to speed.
Jsaun906@reddit
Spanish. By a wide margin. It's not uncommon to meet people here that only speak Spanish, so knowing at least enough to have a basic conversation is useful
common_grounder@reddit
Spanish, with French being a close second. In some schools, people take Latin. It's popular with students who plan to go into fields like medicine where a lot of terms they'll have to learn have Latin roots.
blaspheminCapn@reddit
For a minute it was Spanish and Mandarin.
turquoise_amethyst@reddit
Spanish, it’s not even close.
I grew up in the LA area, and you use it every day.
little_runner_boy@reddit
That's going to depend on what's available at their school. Most do Spanish but I wouldn't say it's because they "prefer" it. My high school only had Spanish, German, and French meanwhile other schools near me had Chinese, Italian, etc
Objective-Note-8095@reddit
Surprisingly number of people are learning Latin. Why not Kione or Classical Greek?
ForgottenGenX47@reddit
My midwest options in the 80s were Spanish or German. I chose German because I have some German heritage.
Sure wish I'd taken Spanish!
My cousins who lived in a bigger city had French as an option and I was envious, I thought that was so cool ha ha.
Embarrassed_Fig1801@reddit
Spanish is the most common. I grew up in California and I think my high school had 2, maybe 3 Spanish teachers and only one each for German and French. Spanish is the only one of those 3 that really make any sense to learn if you live here if you are learning it for practical reasons. That was in the 90 so I have no idea what the situation is now but I wouldn’t be surprised if they dropped German and French for something more useful like Tagalog or Vietnamese.
Hairy-Ball5246@reddit
In the Midwest, it goes English>Spanish>French or German (depends on location)>Latin>All Others.
VeronaMoreau@reddit
Overwhelmingly Spanish. Usually a school in the US will offer Spanish as a foreign language. If they only offer one, it is almost always Spanish. If they're adding another, the ones I've seen most often have been French and/or German. Sometimes Latin. A school that offers Spanish and French/German will often open up the language program with Japanese, Arabic, or Mandarin.
Of course, this is all regional. The next language is to be offered are highly influenced by who they can get to teach them and a lot of that will be based on what groups are in the area.
Mndelta25@reddit
Spanish is definitely most useful. When I was in school, it was whichever language had an international trip planned for the next year.
JackYoMeme@reddit
My school offered Spanish French and German
BatGlittering7781@reddit
Spanish would be the big one. But usually Italian, French, and German are also taught.
mamaMoonlight21@reddit
This must depend on the area you live in. When I was in high school, Spanish, French and German were taught. At my son's high school now he only options are Spanish and French. Some kids take their foreign language at the local community college, which offers Spanish, Korean, Arabic, and Russian.
BatGlittering7781@reddit
I think it does depend on the area. Around me there are a lot of Italian-Americans. But German is not taught in all SD’s, which is weird because there is also a large Amish population.
Educational-Big-6609@reddit
Oh, others are offered but many fewer sections. I grew up in MN where German is an ancestral language…but I think each semester offered like 5 sections of Spanish, 2 of German, and 1 of French.
So, it’s Spanish.
P00PooKitty@reddit
Spanish is a hard number one that might just be a core thing you learn with a foreign language credit going to a third language.
Then French which might be outstripped by Chinese/japanese soon.
Ok-Possibility-9826@reddit
Spanish. A smaller percentage choose French and an even smaller one chooses Chinese.
TheGarp@reddit
Nowdays: Spanish. when I was in HS in the 80s.. Our HS only had French and adding spanish the year I left was seen as a big move.
ThiccBlastoise@reddit
I live in New England where it’s Spanish or French
bmsa131@reddit
Spanish. Then French and then Latin and in my area (Long island) they still offer Italian
handsomechuck@reddit
Spanish, but there are regional differences. Italian is popular where I went to school (north/central NJ), simply because there are many Italian Americans.
claudiatiedemann@reddit
Spanish is most common, then French. My high school also had Latin and German. I live in an area where there are a lot of Asians so several schools here offer Mandarin, Korean, and Japanese but this isn’t that common throughout the U.S.
mtcwby@reddit
Spanish makes the most sense. That said, I took German way back in the day because at the blue collar school I went to all the gang members took Spanish and it wasn't healthy to be around them.
Flat_Tumbleweed_2192@reddit
Nationally, its Spanish. In New England, French is both popular and practical due its proximity to Quebec. Plus, you’ll run into French speakers in some areas of Vermont and Maine. So, that’s what I took.
HeraThere@reddit
Spanish is the most popular followed by French.
Draconuus95@reddit
When looking at the whole country. Spanish. Certain regions and areas may have an inclination towards another language like German or French. And many schools have multiple options. (Mine personally had Spanish, ASL, French, Japanese, mandarin, German, Latin, and i feel like I’m missing some. But we were a bit out of the norm having that much selection.) But Spanish is definitely the most popular second language option considering it’s the one the majority of people might find useful in day to day life.
Juiceman23@reddit
Spanish so I can speak with my south homies
WinnerAwkward480@reddit
Having grown up in The South , my counselor felt it best I stick with English Language courses 🤔🤣.
dixie_girl_w_secrets@reddit
When I was in high school, the choices were either Spanish or French. Then when my little brother started high school, they started offering Latin so he took that.
Traditional-Let9530@reddit
Spanish by far, mostly because it’s widely spoken in the US and seen as the most practical to use in everyday life.
JennItalia269@reddit
Spanish though French is a distant second.
bizoticallyyours83@reddit
Probably depends on where you are, but a lot of people take Spanish because my state has a large population. I have a cousin who took French.
MustangLover25_@reddit
My high school offered Spanish, French, and German and I took German simply because I thought "Wow my high school offers something different!" and took it lol. I still would choose German doing it all over again but in most US high schools Spanish is the most popular as it is a very prevalent language here in the US. Just about every high school offers Spanish and typically if they offer a different one will be French but mine offered a something different so I took it lol.
Deep_Downlow@reddit
Spanish and French were offered at all the HS i went to. I also took some in middle school.
I went to HS in Long Beach in the early 90s and for the elite academic track there was Russian and Chinese (probably Mandarin) offered to them.
Sammakko660@reddit
Spanish was the most popular when I was in high school (this is s few decades ago). Then French. In my school everyone had to take Latin. Then there were two smaller classes one for Italian and German. I believe that my old high school has now added Chinese as an option.
tenehemia@reddit
I went to an elementary school where Spanish was required from 1st - 5th grade (at 6th you could switch to another language, but still had to take one). In high school Japanese was very popular although few people stick with it compared to Spanish.
GrandTheftBae@reddit
Spanish is most common; however I took Japanese
Ok_Bird_9745@reddit
Spanish was the only language class offered at my school.
ThingFuture9079@reddit
Spanish. There were 100 students in my high school class and I remember during freshman year, everyone who wanted to take a foreign language class signed up for Spanish and only 5 people signed up for French so the school started putting some of the students who signed up for Spanish into French class and some of the ones who did just dropped out of French and then tried signing up again for Spanish their sophomore year.
Educational-Big-6609@reddit
Spanish. There’s not much of a case for anything else unless you’re in New England, then French…maybe.
stoolprimeminister@reddit
spanish is the answer and anyone who says something else is trying too hard
Possible-Cicada-9662@reddit
Usually the only language taught in school is Spanish. Some schools can offer French or other languages but Spanish is the most common to be taught
Myfanwy66@reddit
I took Spanish. My daughter took French.
FreeStateOfPortland@reddit
Spanish or French. In my school district they start learning Spanish in grade school.
siltloam@reddit
Most schools only offer Spanish and French. If there's a 3rd choice, it's likely to be German. They are VERY FEW public schools that offer more than that. For more language classes you'd have to find private classes/teachers outside of school or go to an expensive prep school or private school.
For the average American, Spanish will be far more helpful in life than French - especially if never travel outside the US. So Spanish is the more popular language.
That said, anecdotally, I do know a growing number of young people who are pursuing private classes in Japanese.
While only some of these are "students" you may find this analysis of what Americans are learning on the app Duolingo interesting: https://blog.duolingo.com/the-united-states-of-languages-an-analysis-of-duolingo-usage-state-by-state/
tavikravenfrost@reddit
Spanish is the most common. I studied French and German in school.
JG723@reddit
In middle school (grades 6-8 for me) we had to take courses studying some of each language—Spanish, German, and French. Then we got to pick which language we wanted to continue with and I picked French, mostly because the teacher was the nicest.
UnKnOwN769@reddit
Spanish for most of the country. My high school had 3 Spanish teachers, but only 1 French, 1 German, and 1 Latin teacher.
ssfamily42@reddit
There aren't many languages offered on the high school level. Most default to Spanish. My children would have preferred German or Japanese or something but they weren't offered at the schools they attended.
Gunther482@reddit
Generally I would say it’s Spanish > French > German in the US.
Fuunna-Sakana@reddit
Spanish or French, but Japanese is becoming increasingly popular as an elective one
Prestigious-Comb4280@reddit
We had a choice Spanish or French and my parents insisted I take Spanish rather than French. It helped a little and I didn’t have to take it in College
sneezhousing@reddit
Spanish most common
porkchopespresso@reddit
It’s Spanish but other languages are offered. Maybe other languages would be preferred but Spanish is the most useful.
I took French, I still take French and it’s still mostly useless to me, but I did work for a French company and I do travel to France frequently so once a year now I can speak French for 2 weeks and then the rest of the year it’s totally without use, except for maybe like the social media I follow in French, but that’s just to keep the rust off. My son wants to take French in high school and I’m trying to talk him into Spanish
Senior-Cantaloupe-69@reddit
Spanish, French and German.
wetcornbread@reddit
English
Tough_Crazy_8362@reddit
I’m the weirdo that took Latin (1 yr) I also tried French (2 yr) and Spanish (2 yr)
Latin was pretty useful for my STEM and general reading skills.
Miserable-Lawyer-233@reddit
I would say Spanish or French.
MissingGrayMatter@reddit
My school only offered French and Spanish. I checked their courses a couple of years ago when someone asked about my high school, and now only Spanish is available.
TiredPistachio@reddit
Spanish so we can flirt with sexy latinas
areporotastenet@reddit
Everyone is learning Spanish. It’s kinda fun. You’ll hear some people break out Spanish and native Spanish speakers think it’s wild
Awkward-Memory8574@reddit
Spanish by a landslide. We have about 50 million Spanish speakers in the US.
Ok-Energy-9785@reddit
Spanish
Ok-Walk-8040@reddit
Spanish is the most useful for most Americans. So it’s the most common language to learn.
therealjerseytom@reddit
Spanish on the basis that it's very prevalent in the US.
Look at North and South America and how many countries are either English or Spanish speaking. If you know at least the basics of the language you can get by in so many countries. From the northern reaches of Alaska to the southern point of Chile.
Mustang46L@reddit
My school had Spanish and French. I went to the Spanish classroom and it was so full kids were sitting on the floor and they asked half of the class to go to French instead. That's how I ended up in French class.
I thoroughly enjoyed learning French and actually took classes in college as well.. but I wish I had learned Spanish. It would be much more helpful on a daily basis.
Ok_Orchid1004@reddit
No one I know learned a second language and there was no requirement to do so (not even just the basics). I actually signed up for Spanish in 7th or 8th grade, thought it would be cool. Dropped it after maybe 2 weeks, never took it again. It was only an elective, not a requirement. That was in NY public school.
Qel_Hoth@reddit
Spanish, by a wide margin. Second most popular and still present in most schools will be French.
GravityTortoise@reddit
Spanish is the most useful
Thhe_Shakes@reddit
Spanish by far. I'd guess \~80%. Probably 15% French and 5% others.
Catholic schools will also often offer Latin
CroweBird5@reddit
Spanish, followed by French
marylander_@reddit
Spanish for sure. We border Mexico and Spanish is the second most spoken language in the country by far. 42.03 million Spanish speakers in second to 3.40 million Chinese speakers (combining Mandarin and Cantonese) in third so it's just the most useful day to day. Next most popular would probably be French as another romance language and being spoken in Canada, then Chinese but mostly from people who wanted to be able to say they're doing something more challenging (this bit is all from observations at my hs)
pinback77@reddit
Spanish, because it is available as a class almost everywhere. It's difficult sometimes to take classes in other languages. Most English speaking Americans won't learn Spanish beyond taking the required classes because they don't need to and most people they know would rather just talk to them in English and save Spanish for family and those who are fluent and prefer Spanish.
hammer415263@reddit
My dad learned German. I took Spanish and my youngest took French.
AnatidaephobiaAnon@reddit
At my high school the top four in order of how many students took the classes was Spanish, French, German and Latin. Spanish and French were offered in middle school, so people just continued on into high school so they were more popular.
beamerpook@reddit
I took 2 years of French. But I think Spanish would have been more useful
DonJota5@reddit
Espanol gueyvon
PriorSecurity9784@reddit
😆😆😆
ClickAndClackTheTap@reddit
Spanish for sure, but there’s a lot of ASL now as well
Dave_A480@reddit
For those that study a second language it's Spanish.
Typically 2 years in high school and 1 in college. There's no serious effort to make the US bilingual like there is to make Canadians learn French.
mothman83@reddit
Spanish
Cicero912@reddit
Spanish was the only language offered at my higschool, they had French but cut it before I started
SaltandLillacs@reddit
I took Spanish from 1st-12th and Latin 6th-12th
DepressedLike2008@reddit
Spanish is the most useful and popular overall.
But where I live German was the most popular and what I took as well.
HarlequinKOTF@reddit
Spanish is the top dog. Most available and most widely spoken. Second place varies regionally. In the Midwest it is usually French or German. West coast maybe Mandarin?
Ssubio@reddit
Probably French or Spanish, but also whatever is available after everyone else has signed up.
pmyourhotmom@reddit
Spanish is the most useful
jessek@reddit
Spanish by far. My high school had two Spanish teachers but only one of each for German and French. Living in the western US there are a ton of people who speak Spanish making it the most useful language to learn
Snoo_33033@reddit
Spanish is overwhelmingly the most popular, followed by French.
But a lot of schools also offer mandarin, Latin and German. My kids’ previous school offered Vietnamese.
invisibleman13000@reddit
Spanish is probably by far the most common. With French being a distant 2nd. Though this will depend on where in the US you go to school.
Superiority_Complex_@reddit
Spanish is going to be the default for most of the country. It’s by a mile the most useful day-to-day.
My high school also offered Japanese. French is relatively common, German to some extent too.
whatisakafka@reddit
Spanish by a huge margin since it’s the 2nd most widely used language here by an order of magnitude over any other
EvaisAchu@reddit
Spanish is probably the most commonly offered.
Major_Enthusiasm1099@reddit
Spanish
RaspberryLanky7905@reddit
depends on the local population, I did Spanish and i think that is most common, but some of my cousins took chinese.
WashuOtaku@reddit
Spanish