What American trends do you hope that the UK never adopts?

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Personally, American prices make me just think... WHY?! You wouldn't think you could break something as simple as a price tag, and yet here we are. You have the price next to the product, which is what you'd expect to pay right? Nope! Any VAT or additional costs are tacked on AFTER you've taken your stuff to the till. How ridiculous is that? What's the point of the price tag other than to make your product seem cheaper than the other products and lying about their price? Also what’s with the MM/DD/YYYY format… that really makes no sense. I’ve always look at it as the smaller integer goes first and the largest last (DD/MM/YYYY). A day is smaller than a month & a month is smaller than a year.

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quite_acceptable_man@reddit

Tipping culture- although that does seem to be creeping in.

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hhfugrr3@reddit

I hate tipping culture and I've no idea why it seems to be getting popular here. I've been asked for tips in a pub when ordering drinks at the bar and even once at a self service screen in a fast food place.

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VolcanicBear@reddit

You've been _asked for_ tips in a pub? Christ, name and shame dude. Fucking absurd.

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TheeHappyDude@reddit

Tipping in pubs was common until pubs became cashless. Well it was up north, less so in London where If you said one for yourself they'd get themselves a drink.

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VolcanicBear@reddit

Oh I know, I used to love NYE. I just thought they had actively been asked for a tip, which I would never have done when I worked in a pub.

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househelpuk88@reddit

Went home to Inverness last weekend and 3 of the coffee places we used all had a huge ipad asking if we wanted to tip, not sure when it all started but certainly wwasn't a thing a couple years back

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RookieJourneyman@reddit

There's a cafe I have sometimes been to in Aberdeen that has a note on the menus saying that a 10% tip will automatically be added to orders and to ask if you want to remove it. That's worse still: they're hoping that no one has the brass neck to ask for the tip to be taken back off the menu! If you want to charge 10% more, just charge 10% more!

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hhfugrr3@reddit

Only once but yep. One of the regulars at the bar told me to hit the 'no' or zero button when it popped up on the payment screen.

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VolcanicBear@reddit

Ooooh sorry, I thought you meant the bar staff actively asked for it lol. Yeah, in my experience they will generally preemptively press "No" on that though.

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hhfugrr3@reddit

Didn't ask in words, but somebody made the decision to get the card machine to ask and the woman serving me didn't say anything to suggest they weren't seeking a tip.

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NuisancePenguin44@reddit

I've bought something online and the website asked if I wanted to leave a tip!

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rumbugger@reddit

I've seen this in a couple of pubs, comes up on the screen on the card machine. But in fairness to the staff, they always hit 'no' before I even had a chance to get my card near.

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Hour_Course_9876@reddit

Completely agree, our only hope is that he was in a tourist area and thought that they were yanks

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yes1402@reddit

A restaurant added it. I didn't have my glasses on. I paid. And I regret it to this day. I hate eating with glasses. Next time, I will ask for a read out if I don't have glasses on.

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shizzler@reddit

I thought almost all restaurants have service charge these days?

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yes1402@reddit

This was on top of service charge. I regret it to this day. Is service charge the tip? If so, I will begin to question that. I thought it was part of the bill. He restaurant in question added tip on top of service charge. I was driving,so I didn't drink. Zero alcohol in my system. Imagine what happens to those who are drunk.

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Tao626@reddit

This is why you put your glasses on at the end of a meal to read the bill, held at arms length as you open your eyes wide and perform a weird frowning face of concentration.

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yes1402@reddit

Lesson learnt boss. Lesson learnt! I promise you they won't get me again

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RustyChuck@reddit

Trouble is, tipping doesn’t improve the service in the UK – at all. In the US, if you tip well, the server genuinely looks after you.

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Snoop_donn@reddit

You tip at the end, the service defines the tip not the other way around. If someone gives you bad service, don't tip. If they do, do tip. That's the point of tipping

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underwater-sunlight@reddit

I would change that to tipping entitlement. We tip in the UK, barbers, delivery drivers, restaurants but it isn't made to feel like a requirement. We went for a meal a few nights ago. Good service and good food. Tipped a tenner on a 125 bill. I have had meals with poor service and left nothing. Amazing service and have tipped more. The card machine had a tip option come up, server told me about it and said 'please dont feel obligated' rather than the awkward 'the machine is going to ask you a question' and the no tip option was the biggest button. I cant remember what the tipping percentages were as I didnt pay too much attention but im pretty sure they weren't high otherwise I would probably be moaning about them and I was tipping cash anyway

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Consistent-Pirate-23@reddit

The worst is what I call Facebook tipping culture, where posts aimed at Americans are showing the bill and the hand written expected tip Then the comments “if you can’t afford to tip, you can’t afford to eat out”. I am so tempted to say “if your boss can’t pay you decent wages, they can’t afford to run a restaurant”

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BowlerImmediate7005@reddit

which is so weird as Americans are so anti any form I socialism but automatically tip to make sure restaurant workers get a fair wage? they are a bizarre culture that's for sure. one thing I would bring in over here is turning left is ok if it's clear even at a red light. love that bout america

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Cheap-Rate-8996@reddit

> one thing I would bring in over here is turning left is ok if it's clear even at a red light. love that bout america [That's a massive cause of pedestrian and cyclist deaths in the US,](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0022437582900019) so no thank you

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Ill_Preference_3813@reddit

Brits seem to be against socialism (benefits, free school meals etc etc.) but love the NHS. Maybe we got that mentality from the Yanks too

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doghello333@reddit

most brits are against the word socialism but not the actual ideas. for example when winter fuel payments were reduced, even the right wing kicked up a fuss about that. also a lot of the right wing is composed of people on benefits. the left and the right in the uk at this point is basically just all about immigration. its all the media talks about and because of that, its all that (especially the right wing) cares about.

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amboandy@reddit

>if you can’t afford to tip, you can’t afford to eat out If I can't afford to eat out then you're out of work Sonny Jim

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Consistent-Pirate-23@reddit

Then we get the passive aggressive posts on fb from boomers “Remember when people used to eat out in restaurants rather than buy food in the supermarket and take it home?”

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CongealedBeanKingdom@reddit

'I am so tempted to say' Say it!!! Shout it from the rooftops!!

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NapalmSword@reddit

I went to a pub recently that I’d been in many times before. The food bill had an extra service charge that hadn’t been on there before. I’d always tipped a bit if I thought the food was good. After seeing that service charge, I never tipped them again.

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Warfieldarcher@reddit

I went to one of those chain restaurants with a group of friends on the run up to Christmas one year, something we did each year. The service wasn't good, everything took forever and a couple of the group sent food back as it was cold. When we were ordering I noticed on the menu that a discretionary service charge of 20%was included. When we asked for the bill I told them to remove the service charge. The manager came over and demanded to know why. We explained, poor and slow service, dishes being sent back etc. To be fair he didn't argue and redid the bill without the charge. When we paid the waitress told us to enter the amount we'd like to tip into the card machine. He face was a picture when I entered 0.00

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Snoop_donn@reddit

Expecting a tip yeah, but I don't see why you wouldn't tip if you had a good experience anywhere. I always do and I barely earn enough money to go out in the first place. Plus it's like £10 if you go for a £100 meal, not exactly the most insane. Bartenders and restaurant staff work horrendous hours, often don't get home til 1am or later, and rarely get more than minimum wage. Equally, so much pressure is put on hospitality at the moment that shifts are getting cut constantly and people aren't able to earn enough to sustain themselves properly.

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TheNathanNS@reddit

Tipping is absolutely made it's way here. I've seen it at least 4 different places this year.

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nikkijxd@reddit

Got a kebab last night and I had to wait for my change after he got that and the receipt out of the till. handed me the receipt and we just stood there staring at each other. I think he was hoping for it as a tip.

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cgknight1@reddit

Naw ISO 8601 for the win - YYYY-MM-DD

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TheLittleMuse@reddit

That is the ideal for data, but most of the time if you're trying to communicate the date (whether written or spoken) you rarely need to specify the year so there's no need to put it first.

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ThrivingforFailure@reddit

Yes but then you can still say April 23

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Majestic_Matt_459@reddit

HOA's So you live on an Estate and you have to follow rules and pay a big yealry fee Even worse - in some cities - i think NYC is the wrst you eg byujy an apartment for $2 million - and like we have sevice charges iver here thers are huge like $3000 a month - its crazy + property tax

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sapphire-sky-dragon@reddit

The health care system, and next to no maternity time off.

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PassingShot11@reddit

Guns

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TheRebelPercy@reddit

The indifference to the massacre of school children by automatic weapons. Christian Fundamentalism. The removal of the choice of abortion. Town planning being dominated by cars. End stage Capitalism

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glasgowgeg@reddit

>Town planning being dominated by cars. Is today your first day in the uk? One of the biggest issues with this country is pandering to motorists and treating driving like a right rather than a privilege. Easiest way to get away with murder here is to use a car.

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PastLanguage4066@reddit

So, the Republicans then?

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Fellattio_Nelson@reddit

'Mom'. No, its Mum.

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Sage-Freke-@reddit

Not in the West Midlands. Like mam is used in other areas.

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CaptainYid@reddit

I mean... School shootings are fairly high on my priority list to not be adopted

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Lunkwill-fook@reddit

In the USA, there are 50 different sales taxes, so it’s impossible to advertise a price at a national level. Also, some organizations are tax-exempt at the till. Unlike VAT, tax is collected at the point of sale in the USA and not at every step of the process like VAT. Companies in the USA can’t generally claim sales taxes back once they are paid, so they are left to the very point of sale.

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-sry-@reddit

In most countries I’ve lived in, VAT can vary by region, and it’s usually collected at the point of sale because it can differ depending on whether you’re a local resident, an EU resident, or a resident of another country. Here’s a “200 IQ” tip for advertising prices nationwide: just add “from” before the price tag.

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Psyk60@reddit

More than just 50, it can vary at the local level. The tax could be different down the street because it's technically in a different city.

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themcsame@reddit

Local, county and state level. The tax you pay in one county, isn't necessarily the same in another. Two cities in the same state? Different tax rates. End result is over 11,000 tax jurisdictions.

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LilacCrusader@reddit

Of course it's possible to advertise a price at the national level. You just receive in a varying amount of money after tax, based on the location of the shop. The tills currently handle the tax so already have to be set up to vary by location, so it would be putting the tax calculation onto the company rather than the customer. And I guess we therefore see the answer, because companies couldn't possibly be at all put out!

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nikkijxd@reddit

Possibly too political.. The rewinding of women's rights Rampant racism

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arrivenightly@reddit

You’re allowed to say women and minorities losing their basic human rights is bad

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PastLanguage4066@reddit

Controversial.

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Sage-Freke-@reddit

The price thing is probably due to different states having different taxes. So it’s easier for them to put the same price on the same product and have it altered at the till. I doubt that’ll happen in the UK, as the tax is the same everywhere. I never understood the date thing. There are a lot of people here already saying the month before the day and it got really confusing for me when different people were amending the same spreadsheet with different methods! Saying “it’s the 1st day of May” makes sense to me. It does help sometimes if you have filenames with different dates and it’s YYYY/MM/DD. If you do that it list all the files in date order, but not if you do it the opposite way round.

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Truewit_@reddit

Privatised health care

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ToughImprovement276@reddit

European style private healthcare ✅ American style private healthcare ❌

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Why_you_so_wrong_@reddit

It’s a great idea for those that can afford it. Takes the pressure off the NHS for most routine stuff and essentially helps subsidise NHS treatment both via tax and by giving consultants a lucrative side hustle so they don’t leave for Australia or America. Personally, the government should reduce the tax on health benefits given as part of a comp package to encourage it.

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mrb2409@reddit

You can have private health care here. Many wealthier people do.

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Why_you_so_wrong_@reddit

That’s what I just said?

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mrb2409@reddit

Your post made it sound like it wasn’t an option here.

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Why_you_so_wrong_@reddit

You clearly aren’t linguistically gifted.

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Alarmed-Cheetah-1221@reddit

I read it the same as they did. Introspection is clearly not your forte.

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Why_you_so_wrong_@reddit

Reading might not be your forte. Double check your GCSE notes for present tense and get back to me.

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mrb2409@reddit

In response to somebody saying they don’t want privatised healthcare in the UK (clearly talking about replacing the NHS) you started off by saying ‘it’s a great idea’ as if it isn’t something we already have available. Admittedly, the rest of your post shows you understand how private healthcare is available in the UK but you missed the point entirely of the person you responded to. Either way, I’m not sure our system really benefits the NHS in the way you express. It often just seems a shortcut for middle class people to the front of the queue.

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Why_you_so_wrong_@reddit

“Those that can afford it”, “Takes (present tense), helps (present tense), giving (present continuous). It will be a shortcut to “skip the queue” but if we incentivise employers to give it as part of a benefits package it will be available to more. It’s a win for virtually every party involved.

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YankyNotBrim@reddit

It did read like that.

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Ticky79@reddit

It should be better integrated. NHS GPs can’t prescribe anything that isn’t subsidised by the NHS and Private GPs can’t use the NHS prescriptions, and NHS GPs don’t have to accept Private specialist’s recommendations. In Australia, for example there are just GPs. They all get subsidised a specific amount by the government, they don’t have to charge patients anymore but they can. People can choose to see a GP who charges above what the government pays or not. They will generally have more choice in where, when, who their GP is. Prescriptions can then be prescribed by the GPs from the PBS list (which is subsidised) or the non-PBS list pay the full amount for the medication. Most medicines are on the PBS. What you have is choice of who your GPs, you can follow your favourite GP from clinic to clinic if you want. You aren’t curtailed to a postcode area like you are here, that would be very un-Australian and not tolerated for a second. GPs can also send you for referrals to private or public specialists, scans, or other services. They ask you what you want to do. There is no Chinese wall separating the two sectors. The Government even subsidises most private health care if you pay out of pocket yourself, so you only have to find about half the cost.

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Feline-Sloth@reddit

They don't do emergency surgery though so if a private clinic screw up then The NHS has to step up

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Why_you_so_wrong_@reddit

That’s why I said routine stuff. They can’t replace the NHS but for checkups, scans and planned surgery it’s a much better alternative for virtually all parties.

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roguesimian@reddit

It’s already privatised in many areas. For example, GP practices are private, as well and many health providers, health centres and hospitals. Blair introduced the Public Private Partnership hospitals, while Branson campaigned for Virgin to provide health services, and I believe won various contracts. They all charge their services back to the NHS which is one of the reasons The NHS suffers terrible budgetary issues. We get the healthcare for free, or relatively free, but it’s mostly run by private health providers.

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the-TARDIS-ran-away@reddit

People that tell me health care should be privatised always say its too expensive when i tell them private health care is already available in the UK. Always find that interesting.

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Why_you_so_wrong_@reddit

Privatising the NHS is a terrible idea but we really should be encouraging a healthy private healthcare sector by tax benefits on employer provided insurance.

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roguesimian@reddit

It’s already privatised in many areas. For example, GP practices are private, as well and many health providers, health centres and hospitals. Blair introduced the Public Private Partnership hospitals, while Branson campaigned for Virgin to provide health services, and I believe won various contracts. They all charge their services back to the NHS which is one of the reasons The NHS suffers terrible budgetary issues. We get the healthcare for free, or relatively free, but it’s mostly run by private health providers.

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boldbunny01@reddit

Donating PTO to other colleagues facing medical emergencies or family issues because they’ve used all theirs and the company won’t allow the time off when seriously ill. what is that all about !

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kwack250@reddit

To be fair we had to do that at my old job when a workmates wife got a cancer diagnosis. Senior management wouldn’t give him the time to take her to the many appointments that come with a diagnosis. We started using our own holidays and covering his work. Then I was promoted to his line manager so I just told him to say he was in and I’d forge his timesheet.

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Ok_Variation2090@reddit

I’ve never heard anything like this in the UK. What a lovely bunch of people you all were

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Evening-Tomatillo-47@reddit

I know its illegal to deny time off for medical appointments. Not sure about it being someone else's appointment though

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DisastrousRecord1802@reddit

With pregnancy the father may take two occasions off to go to mid wife appointments but thats all thats mandated im pretty sure

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Ticky79@reddit

That is awful. Imagine the loyalty that they would get if they just gave him the time off, or find some sort of work around.

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BungadinRidesAgain@reddit

We're just replaceable cogs to them; human resources, if you will.

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dinobug77@reddit

I feel incredibly lucky that my company just told me to book any time off for my wife’s appointments as a private meeting. Just had to make sure anyone impacted was told that I wouldn’t be in / was working less hours. They then apologised saying that they wish they could do more to help us when in reality not having to stress about work meant I could fully support my wife. All in all of you add up the hours off I think I had about 8 days off work.

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nikkijxd@reddit

That's terrible on their part. I'm glad you looked out for him and by extension his wife.

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sleepingellis@reddit

You are a good person.

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Dry_Action1734@reddit

Also… calling it PTO instead of AL

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thecockmeister@reddit

Think it's because PTO generally includes sick days as well as leave. So if you're off work ill, you'll lose days that you could have taken off as holiday....

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maersyl@reddit

Which is nuts in itself. Imagine thinking “I can’t book that holiday because I had the flu earlier this year”

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MountainMuffin1980@reddit

Holy fuck... I'd forgotten that was a thing.

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johnlewisdesign@reddit

Private Healthcare scalping Anti Abortion Senile people running the country School shootings Tips instead of wages Hitting trains on level crossings Mom instead of mum Criss Cross Applesos

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Vodkamonkey@reddit

I've seen more and more people writing "mom" and it's pisses me off, you're from the scheme and you're Scottish you've got a Maw no a mom.

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Shot_Net3794@reddit

Criss Cross Applesos?

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VolcanicBear@reddit

I think it's "Criss Cross Applesauce", but also no idea. Only place I've seen it is in that Simpsons Halloween episode.

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JimDixon@reddit

I'm American and I don't know what it means. It sounds like something kids might say. Maybe it was invented after I grew up.

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Shot_Net3794@reddit

What even is Criss Cross Applesauce?

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Ajram1983@reddit

Sitting cross legged.

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VolcanicBear@reddit

No idea. I would've been better placed to say "only place I've heard it" tbh.

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Gauntlets28@reddit

It's just a fun way to say "sitting cross-legged". Tends to be something nursery school teachers say. Doesn't really work with British accents because cross and sauce don't rhyme. I think it's pretty innocuous, honestly.

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Emergency-Fig-1501@reddit

Wait, cross and sauce don't rhyme? In which accent? They do in mine.

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lucylucylane@reddit

Not in mine cross is pronounced with a short o and sauce is pronounced with or and every other British accent I've ever heard

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Gauntlets28@reddit

Okay, I suppose I should say *a lot* of British accents, but admittedly not all of them.

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salutdamour@reddit

Cross and sauce rhyme for me !

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snittersnee@reddit

[It's what you have to say to be a juggling boss](https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=GLlDrJ1DBJY&si=kyaEb2f1nbDGUylF)

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First-Lengthiness-16@reddit

Some of the northerns say “mom”. Buggers

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VolcanicBear@reddit

I think people unfortunate enough to be from Birmingham use Mom too.

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Vequihellin@reddit

Right? Like, I get the 'criss-cross' bit. We say 'sitting cross-legged' but I can see how 'sitting criss-cross' would make sense. But where does the Apple sauce bit fit in? What does Apple sauce have to do with sitting cross-legged/criss-cross? Why Apple sauce? Why not 'Criss-cross mint sauce'? Or 'Criss-cross Bbq sauce'? Is the apple significant?

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ximina3@reddit

In an American accent sauce rhymes with cross, and apple sauce has enough syllables to make it a nice little rhyme. I believe they also tend to use apple sauce a lot more than we do, and apple sounds better than criss -cross ranch sauce 😂

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rice_fish_and_eggs@reddit

Mom has been used in the UK for hundreds of years.

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Wipedout89@reddit

But only in Birmingham and nobody likes them

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Rude_Rhubarb1880@reddit

Saying like like like like like Talking really loudly Shouting Go USA etc really loudly Acting in an extremely fake way as if we are on a Film set

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EitherChannel4874@reddit

Voting random celebrities and bankruptcy prone rapists into government.

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Tarmacsurfer@reddit

I thought we invented that style of government?

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EitherChannel4874@reddit

Possibly but it has no place in modern politics imo. Being able to act or being shit at business aren't really desirable traits when running a country. The ability to sexually assault women definitely isn't needed.

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Caddy666@reddit

fucking all of it.

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WinkyNurdo@reddit

My sentiments exactly

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YouSayWotNow@reddit

Private health replacing our National Health Service. It's moving in that direction and I think we really need to fight that as hard as we can. Yes the NHS isn't perfect, much of which I blame on lack of funding that itself is often driven by those with a vested interest in getting the NHS to pay for the use of private health care. Guns and the idea that a) one is safer with one than without and b) that owning one is some kind of universal right The way waitstaff are paid, and that they are so reliant on tips, but also that they are taxed on the assumption that they will always get a tip and therefore are actually out of pocket if they don't. It's a batshit crazy system. Religion-based right-wing fascism and misogyny, everything from the erosion of women's rights to make decisions about their own bodies / abortion, to the way that religious interests are able to get perfectly innocuous content banned from schools and libraries, to the blurring between church and state, and god this one topic could go on forever. Oh and that there are states where it's legal to marry at 15 years old. That's children. The Karen culture where people think the customer is king, and the incredibly selfish way of looking at the world. That's already increased a lot in the UK over recent decades. Litigation culture and this idea that if you can sue, you should sue, for anything and everything. The existence and continued enactment of the Death penalty.

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SoupMaleficent9513@reddit

Guns, tipping everyone, lack of a decent minimum wage, no work life balance, private healthcare, the notion that freedom of speech means being an idiot and getting violent when challenged, pledging allegiance, pretending that there’s some kind of separation of church and state, super pacs, cars over pedestrians, little and poor public transport.

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MxJamesC@reddit

Fascism

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jaynoj@reddit

Plenty of that about in the UK already.

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Chennys_sandwich@reddit

I view the USA as comprehensive guide to what we want to completely avoid doing and becoming

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AvidCoco@reddit

Opening almost every event with the national anthem. I was watching a video on YouTube the other day of someone doing a marathon and before it started they all just stood silently with their hands on their chest as some random person sang the national anthem and some guys in military uniforms saluted a flag. It was so embarrassing.

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tanoshimi@reddit

Guns, flags, grotesque levels of overindulgence, food standards, "Christian" values...

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Geek_reformed@reddit

We currently have a flag issue.

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jaynoj@reddit

The local nob heads who put flags up in the next town got threatened with a bill for £13k from the local council for taking them fown as they were a safety hazard. They said they would take down the flags themselves to save the council money and spinning it like they were doing them a favour and saving the taxpayer the burden. It's like someone set fire to a building and then offered to put it out themselves to save the fire brigade the bother. The trouble is, the muppets on facebook and the bbc news comment section always fall for this shit and they think they're all sound.

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Simbooptendo@reddit

And the “Christian” values. And “pastors” indulging them

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tanoshimi@reddit

Only localised though. It's not like our every school day starts with kids having to pledge allegiance to the United Kingdom (and then practice the school procedure when an "active shooter" comes to visit).

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apple_kicks@reddit

Over history we can’t even agree what Christianity we were without killing people

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Mark__78L@reddit

Christian values are completely fine. What's not fine, is when people misinterpret them and start doing things in the name of God, that Jesus never taught to do

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never-respond@reddit

Supporting Wrexham

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Notaturtleitsabug@reddit

Guns.

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breaded_skateboard@reddit

Normalised school shootings

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MoonlightCompass@reddit

Luckily we all knew after Dunblane that school shootings were not for us.

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Pitiful-Library-9795@reddit

Normalised is definitely the key word there. It should never happen anywhere anyway, but to me, the saddest thing about it is that the having to run through what to do if it were to happen in the same way as we do basic fire drills and find it a normal part of school life. I can’t wrap my head around it at all

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Bizzle_B@reddit

When the news of a domestic mass shooting came out of Louisiana a few days ago, many Americans in the comments were frustrated and confused because children had been shot so they thought that must have happened in a school. It is a savage indictment of their schools that it's a place people assume children are shot and the ones that survive don't have the reading comprehension to follow a basic news story.

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CommercialAsparagus@reddit

Basically everything.

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Redvat@reddit

Work ethic. They seem to think work life is more important than family life.

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TheKingOfSpite@reddit

Fucking most of them dude

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Editor-In-Queef@reddit

Voting in child rapists.

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Ambitious_Rent_3282@reddit

Dynamic pricing

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NuisancePenguin44@reddit

It's already here in supermarkets

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Superspark76@reddit

No it's not, that would involve people going around and changing prices throughout the day.

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Don_Alosi@reddit

too late for that

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SpeechWeird5267@reddit

Can you elaborate please?

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Brilliant_Bowler_994@reddit

Their food standards. Good lord I swear I will swim across the ocean to find another country if you make me eat like them.

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Caddy666@reddit

they have food standards? are you sure you didnt hallucinate that?

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adm010@reddit

So many things, but ill throw a random one out there. Flags. EVERYWHERE.

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HighlandMedicoo@reddit

As someone on IBD meds Their healthcare system

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JonTravel@reddit

In the case of sales tax, retailers will tell you that displaying one price for all customers is challenging. Updating price tags across different locations for different tax rates involves significant labor and cost. Sales tax varies from State to State, County to County and even city to City. Unlike the UK where it's the same across the country. Products with a printed price tag on them wouldn't be possible. I can buy the same product in two different stores across the street from each other and pay different tax rates.

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StardustOasis@reddit

Most, if not all, large retailers have the ability to print price tags in store. All it needs is a single database of tax rates which can be referenced when printing the price tag, to automatically return the correct price for the relevant area. It's a problem with a simple fix, I could build something in Excel that would do it in an hour or two.

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missuseme@reddit

Two different stores across the street having different tax is an argument FOR displaying the price tax included, not against.

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hhfugrr3@reddit

I've never bought that as an argument. Even 30 years ago, I worked in a shop that charged different prices at different branches. It's perfectly possible to account for different taxes in different branches depending on location. They just like to show the price without tax because it looks cheaper.

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JonTravel@reddit

I'm not disagreeing with your argument. Just pointing out the reason why it's done.

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Agile-Read-238@reddit

The VAT one really gets to me as it’s an indirect tax. Adding it to receipts makes it seem like it’s a tax paid by the consumer to the government not by the company to the government. In most countries, companies can deduct VAT on their purchases from their final VAT bill so, that 20% you see on your receipts, companies often pay less than that. Just feels like it’s a way to manipulate consumers into thinking business should pay less corporate tax.

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Infinite_Pickle_1692@reddit

American here. Wow you guys really hate us… 🫠 Agree on tipping culture, though I have seen it here in some establishments. Luckily it’s not as obnoxious & heavily expected. Though, I will say I miss the US healthcare system & I do believe there are some misunderstandings on it. NHS has perks, but also just as many flaws. Like all things really.

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Inner-Device-4530@reddit

You miss paying through the nose for medication that costs the price of a prescription over hear?

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Infinite_Pickle_1692@reddit

Literally not how it was at all.

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Dry-Grocery9311@reddit

Military industrial complex. Medical industrial complex. Buying elections. Prioritising materialism above people.

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Slackdarren@reddit

Shouting when only inches apart. Calling job titles "Master or Expert" and finally not using the word "World" just for your country.

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huntsab2090@reddit

All of it. Theres nothing good about america.

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feetflatontheground@reddit

The smallest integer should go last not first. You're 6ft 3 inches, not 3inches 6 ft. So the only sensible date format is YYYY/MM/DD. The European format is completely backwards. The American format is jumbled, with the year as an afterthought.

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novahkin7@reddit

Working during PTO

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sweetpotatoeater@reddit

Waymo. I saw one in Oxford Circus recently and got a little scared. Although there was a driver so I'm assuming it was just a test

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Max_Power_332@reddit

The price tag thing is annoying but I think the reason for that is a product might be $10 in California, Nebraska and Tennessee but cost a different amount in each because different levels of, or even no in some cases, sales tax. Admittedly they now have digital price tickets, so there’s no excuse for this continuing, but even then I think these are controlled remotely and not locally.

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JimmyBallocks@reddit

So many of these responses serve to highlight just how deeply broken and backwards American society is in so many ways, and so many people there either just don’t question it or flatly refuse to accept how poor it is

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apple_kicks@reddit

Sexism. Worked for few US countries and while British guys aren’t great the US men really are worse on how they treat women as lesser

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ServerLost@reddit

Police with guns.

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shares_inDeleware@reddit

3 holes on folders and letter instead of A4

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tardigrade-munch@reddit

Each state the US have different state and county taxes. Therefore they don’t have a singular price across the board. Each product would for county would have its own price tag which is a logistics overhead. Or you have the product price which is the same across the board and you handle the different taxes at the point of sale electronically. The uk is easy. Taxes are uniform across all locations.

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apple_kicks@reddit

This is why we have NHS too. Before Hospital services were different where people lived and posher areas could afford better hospitals

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ChipCob1@reddit

Private healthcare as the norm.

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Full-Hawk9469@reddit

So you’d rather use the NHS? Good lord you have no idea how bad it is until you’ve actually seen US medical facilities, and gotten care there. NHS run hospitals are worse than the 3rd world in some cases.

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Vaxtez@reddit

US healthcare is leaps & bounds worse than the NHS. The NHS has flaws, but at least we don't need to deal with the US healthcare's insurance systems & debt. We can get the ambulance freely instead of dealing with £8500 of debt.

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Why_you_so_wrong_@reddit

The standard of healthcare in the US is leaps and bounds better, for those that have appropriate insurance.

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GotOotJIT@reddit

And the accompanying funds.

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GotOotJIT@reddit

Can’t wait to go bankrupt paying for my healthcare. 🙄

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the-TARDIS-ran-away@reddit

Dunno, id be dead if it wasnt for the NHS so id disagree. Also, 3rd world countries is an outdated term.

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ChipCob1@reddit

I've got private healthcare through work (AXA) and it's really not all it's cracked up to be. I've also recently had a head injury that had to be treated by the NHS (my AXA policy didn't cover head injuries...few do) and the care I received wasn't that different to private.

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Freddyeddy123@reddit

You could have at least made up a better lie.

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tom-mart@reddit

Right, so I could look at the amazing facilities that I would never be able to afford? And how is that going to improve my health?

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First-Butterscotch-3@reddit

Better than being bankrupt or your insurance company dragging out a claim hoping you will die and remove the issue

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Striking_Smile6594@reddit

My mother successfully went through a cancer treatment course on the NHS last year. They where brilliant.

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Geek_reformed@reddit

There is an area between the US system and the NHS. A more hybrid model. That said, I know plenty of US folks and it isn't all that great even if you are paying for it.

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GrabbedByTheGhost@reddit

You think paying 40K to give birth is acceptable?

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GrabbedByTheGhost@reddit

🤡🤡🤡

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KaleidoscopeFull9951@reddit

Fight with your insurance company to get your medical bills paid. Die if they won’t. Nah, you’re alright.

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pryonic1705@reddit

Yes but I'd rather if I had an accident or got diagnosed with a terrible disease that my first thought was "I hope they can make me better" rather than "can I afford this?". I don't think that peace of mind can be underestimated. Even with insurance there's always excessed, co-pays and the chance your employer will just fire you so you lose your medical insurance.

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ContributionIll5741@reddit

🤖🤖🤖

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awfulpigeon@reddit

- TV shows that are too much of a good thing and go on for 13 series with none of the main cast and everyone getting married. - Gender reveal parties - hyper focus on social media image. Doing things because you want to be seen doing them vs actually enjoying them. - fake Christians using bible and religion hypocritically - for profit opoids - complete apathy to homeless populations US do many things better and for the most part many of the people I’ve met at work and travelling are great people with a more positive and outgoing mindset which meant they were happier people.

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apple_kicks@reddit

‘This is a Christian country’ nonsense especially since over history we can’t agree on which sect of Christianity without burning people alive

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Plastic_Doughnut_911@reddit

American trends we don’t want? Fascism. 🤷‍♀️

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Alwayslisteningin@reddit

Try sorting a column of raw UK style dates. Now do it with US formatting and tell me what's best...

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DoctorOctagonapus@reddit

This is why YYYY-MM-DD is the best option.

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Alwayslisteningin@reddit

And this is bestest!

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Dave91277@reddit

Accepting a sexual predator as a leader.

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Live-Motor-4000@reddit

Healthcare and their low consumer standards

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MetalRocksMe_@reddit

All of them! We don’t write the date they way do in numbers but I’ve noticed that we now do in writing though. All the British word we’ve blindly replaced with the American version is ridiculous.

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scottishsilversurfer@reddit

Color not colour wtf as they say, 2 countries divided by a common language

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SgtBushMonkey69@reddit

The tipping culture

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madformattsmith@reddit

Anti-Gay-Chicken (aka Chick-fil-A) there's already one in Leeds, let's pray to god that they don't open one up in scouseland.

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repair-it@reddit

I want no American trends. I can understand YYYY/MM/DD, or DD/MM/YYYY, but US system is crazy.

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Fancy-Carpenter-1647@reddit

Shooting up schools.

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No-Temperature-7195@reddit

High-fiving over everything

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Anaptyso@reddit

This is a fairly niche one, but why do all trailers for American films drop the use of ordinals in dates? For example, when announcing that a film is coming out on the 15th May they'll say "PSYCHO KITTENS: THE MOVIE COMING MAY TWENTY FIVE" Twenty five instead of "the twenty fifth". It just sounds wrong.

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OverlyAdorable@reddit

Their level of ignorance and/or intelligence. We get it over here as well but if we were asked where Iran is on the map, I don't think we'd have a stupidly high number of people pointing at China or our own and surrounding countries. Shootings (could go in the first point). We can actually send our kids to school and the most we have to worry about is the school bully picking on them. Religion. I don't mind it, I just mean to their extent. "Oh my gawd, you're an atheist? How dare you. If God isn't real, what do you think made us?" Their health care. Been stabbed? That's going to be a lot of debt. Tipping to an extent. The wait staff should get a decent wage and not rely solely on tipping. If I want to tip, that should be up to me. I shouldn't be berated for rounding a bill up a little (£8 bill, here's £10, keep the change). I want the option of paying the advertised price Price advertised is without taxes. Similar to the previous point. Let me pay the price that it says instead of having to work out how much I'll have to pay

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Sure-Recognition-262@reddit

>Also what’s with the MM/DD/YYYY format… that really makes no sense. I’ve always look at it as the smaller integer goes first and the largest last (DD/MM/YYYY). Agree theirs makes no sense at all, but ours also isn't brilliant. Almost all things you put largest-to-smallest: * Hundreds, Tens, Units * Hours, Minutes, Seconds * Feet, Inches * Stone, Pounds * Pounds, Ounces So dates being smallest-to-largest are a bit of an odd-one-out. Unlike the American way (middle, then smallest, then largest) it's not completely batshit crazy.

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laoxue@reddit

We also write addresses smallest to largest - unlike places like China which does addresses and date largest to smallest.

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Sure-Recognition-262@reddit

Yup (at least they are if you omit the postcode, which will identify an area smalller than the post town yet come later than it) And internet domain names And people's names (in the UK at least)

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GlumAd9856@reddit

Tipping has to be the big one. I guess it's similar to your complaint, I just want to pay the advertised price. And as someone who doesn't even bother taking a bankcard out with them these days, i'm not up for having to carry round cash to tip people with.

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ThrustersToFull@reddit

Haha yes. I went to a restaurant in Washington DC recently where they wanted not only a 25% tip, but another 25% on top of that for the staff "mental health fund." I honestly thought they were kidding but no... deadly serious.

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AvadaBalaclava@reddit

I feel like it started to creep in with people tipping more in the 2010’s but thankfully it seems to have gone back the other way, although I don’t tend to go to places with mandatory service charges which should be illegal m

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Ticky79@reddit

Gun culture

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Mobile-Stomach719@reddit

Voting for old men with dementia....

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Emergency-Tower-8933@reddit

Ours is equally wrong. It should be in order of significance so it can be sequential. Ie YYYY/MM/DD.

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I_AM_Squirrel_King@reddit

But you’re much more likely to know the year. You’re less likely to know the day, then the month. Which is why it’s ordered like that. You only need to read as far as you don’t know.

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spearmint_wino@reddit

It's a great naming convention for files though, super easy to sort

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inevitablelizard@reddit

I don't want our urban planning to be even more car dependent, or for cars themselves to keep getting bigger and bigger. I would like to stop and partially reverse the individualism which has taken hold in this country over the last decade or more. That feels like an American influence.

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DoctorOctagonapus@reddit

Private healthcare

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Dry_Action1734@reddit

The price thing is because companies want to be able to price things the same across states, but different states have different taxes. So it’s to make life easier for big corporations. Big surprise.

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Justboy__@reddit

There’s loads but the first that spring to mind is: - Privatised Healthcare - Suing each other all the time - Tipping instead of paying staff properly.

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simonannitsford@reddit

The sales tax thing is because it's different in different states They'd have to display different prices in different states, which isn't the end of the world in my view, but there you go.

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PositivelyAcademical@reddit

I can see that argument for online stores. But what’s the excuse in physical stores?

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simonannitsford@reddit

They don't see the problem, and we don't understand why

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Accurate-Ad9790@reddit

I hoped back in the 80/90's we wouldn't sue for everything like the USA does.

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Intruder313@reddit

Basically ALL of them.

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Unlikely_Ad7542@reddit

Being unable to use a knife and fork

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FlatTyres@reddit

Normal-income people valuing a person's worthiness to date by how much they can flash their wealth are and now nice their car is. I'm really thankful not to live in America and be judged on such things here. And I agree with you on both the VAT included in the price and the date format points you made.

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Lordhartley@reddit

Fucking everything. That country is Third world country with a fake Gucci label.

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badger906@reddit

America is waaaaay too political.

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NumeroRyan@reddit

I kind of understand the whole VAT thing in the US. It’s because each state has different tax, so it’s easier to say a mars bar is $1 in each state and then the shop applies the necessary tax.

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ayamummyme@reddit

Let’s not have this then between different counties. Imagine each county had its own laws.

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deer_light@reddit

Easier for whom?

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Quarkly95@reddit

It's one of the issues you have when you try to make 30 countries act like one and pretend a 'federal government' is anything better than shit

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iteachag5@reddit

Material excess such as mansion sized homes and huge cars and trucks.

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Ok_Corter5831@reddit

Tipping. Oligarchy. Being diagnosed with cancer leading to bankruptcy. Mass shootings Being so routine that they barely make the news.

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disco_biscuits_84@reddit

Guns everywhere

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Optimal_Collection77@reddit

Guns, shooting school kids and tipping

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Long_Huckleberry1751@reddit

Add in weddings and that's my list

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sudden-arboreal-stop@reddit

Pretty solid list

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strodey123@reddit

Tipping. Absolutely hate it.

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datguysadz@reddit

Short answer is all of them, but there's an America Lite, so it feels unavoidable.

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joebmc@reddit

The food, like the everyday stuff, cake-bread, for example.

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Maverick_Heathen@reddit

Christofascism

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Spikeymikey5050@reddit

Letting dogs absolutely everywhere. Oh, wait :(

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McLeod3577@reddit

"On accident" is another strange one.

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captainsittingduck@reddit

War crimes

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Party_Advantage_3733@reddit

I think we've been doing those for as long as they're existed.

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captainsittingduck@reddit

Yeah we were pretty prolific at it back in the day. Thankfully we've seem to have grown out of it

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McLeod3577@reddit

Have you noticed how they have the stupid MM/DD/YY format for every day of the year, except for The 4th of July, ironically the day they celebrate independence from the British?

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fannyabdabs@reddit

Estate agents becoming “realtors” and seeing their smiling faces on the for sale / sold boards

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TMI2020@reddit

Estate agent local to me does this.

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yukyum@reddit

It's already happened.

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Giorggio361@reddit

I think a big one that has started creeping into football is the idea that sports clubs are owned by someone who is incredibly important to the club. American sports teams are franchises. They were created as businesses. They function exclusively as businesses. They aren’t tied to a location like a British sports team. The owner is an important person in the organisation and the success of the team is their success to the extent they go down and grab the trophy when they win. In Britain, part of the love affair of sports is that there is history there that is bigger than any one person. Whoever is in charge of or owns a club is simply the custodian of that club right now. The club is deeply rooted in the local area and has a history, culture, and ethos that is based on its association to the local area. In football, this has started to change in the past twenty years - Wimbledon FC being moved to Milton Keynes but keeping the Dons tag, for example, and various owners becoming more high profile in how they deliver success and fans attributing that success to the owners as much as the team.

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Hefty_Tip7383@reddit

Fascism

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Odd_Scar836@reddit

Almost all of them. Actually, I’m not sure I can think of any I would like us to adopt

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BeatsAndBeer@reddit

ICE

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Tsarinya@reddit

The extremity of religious values. Guns. Privatised healthcare. Tipping culture. I can’t think of an American trend I actually like.

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Wiccamanplays@reddit

The expansion of tipping culture, unfortunately I think we’re too late. I would rather pay a bit more for my food/drink and know the people making and serving it are paid a decent wage than play that weird game where I have to guess how much isn’t offensive to my taxi driver or to have to turn down 15 prompts on the credit card machine when I get my hair done.

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pickindim_kmet@reddit

The whole lie/lay/laid thing that seems to be creeping over. I can't believe how many people don't know how to use those words correctly.

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SpeechWeird5267@reddit

There can be a lot of words that people don't know how to use really. It's about adaptive context. 🤷‍♂️

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Vequihellin@reddit

See also 'Drag' and 'Drug'. The past tense of 'drag' is 'dragged'! "I dragged his corpse to the pit" not "I drug his corpse to the pit."

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Accomplished-Art7737@reddit

“I could care less” Makes me irrationally angry

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smallkins@reddit

The lack of common sense and overreaching of religion into people’s lives

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SpeechWeird5267@reddit

Lack of common sense? Isn't that just possibly anywhere?

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abstract_groove@reddit

Fascism, high school massacres, unaffordable healthcare, mass stupidity, the list is virtually endless.

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brushfuse@reddit

All the ones it has previously adopted, like coked-up stock brokers fucking up the economy for their own gain.

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Physical-Incident553@reddit

American here. VAT doesn’t exist in the US. Many states have a sales tax, and then some cities and counties have their own separate sales tax. Of our regular purchases, I think fuel (gas aka petrol and diesel) is the only one with taxes included in posted price.

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Anglo-Euro-0891@reddit

Technically VAT is a type of sales tax.

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Physical-Incident553@reddit

Isn’t VAT assessed at every point in the supply chain within the UK? A company buying a raw material or components from another company in the US doesn’t pay sales tax. Do you pay VAT on services such as car repairs or hair cuts?

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Ray2024@reddit

Wouldn't the US equivalent be a federal sales tax though?

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The_Blip@reddit

>I think fuel (gas aka petrol and diesel) is the only one with taxes included in posted price. The fact it's not consistent across everything somehow infuriates me even more.

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changhyun@reddit

When I visited the US and popped into coffee shops there and asked for tea, they'd do one of two things: 1) Pour me some from a big fucking tub of water just sitting there with a bunch of tea bags soaking in it and then heat it up 2) Put a tea bag in a mug, then cold water, then put it in a microwave Let's not do either of those things.

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Cantabulous_@reddit

There’s also the diner option, where they bring you a mug of tepid water and a caddy of teas, of which Lipton is the closest thing to tea.

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TrollDeMortLunchBox@reddit

Facism

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Fraggle_ninja@reddit

If you go to a grave yard and look at graves from the 19th - we used to do the MM/DD/YYYY as well. Why it changed for the better I have no idea.

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TheKingMonkey@reddit

The price tag thing is because sales tax is set at local level so there’s variance based on location. You won’t get that here.

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wjhall@reddit

The store does not tend to move around much.

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Fraggle_ninja@reddit

Huge cars, starting wars for oil (yeah we have been guilty of this), making junk food cheaper than fresh food, prioritising profit over people, community and society. Right wing conditioning via right wing media ownership. Popularity content style and privately funded politics.

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jasmith2706@reddit

Fair play OP you're Karma farming like theres no tomorrow at the moment.

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Cumulus-Crafts@reddit

"Can I get a" and no "please" and "thank you" when ordering food

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First-Butterscotch-3@reddit

Tipping Privatised health care 0 employee rights

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Striking_Smile6594@reddit

Their Religious nutjobs and particularly the stranglehold they seem to have over the political landscape. The is a lot of dark money trying to get a British version of the American 'religious right' established in the UK. This must be resisted at all costs.

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thefixerofthings29@reddit

Private healthcare, Tipping culture, Chlorinated chicken, School shootings... The list is pretty endless

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NrthnLd75@reddit

Saying me either when they mean me neither.

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AdministrativeLaugh2@reddit

Flag shagging… oh wait

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Giorggio361@reddit

The reason most American places don’t show the pricing after tipping is an example of menu costs in economics. Because each of the states have their own rules about taxation, the same product could cost fifty different prices depending on where it’s being sold. It’s much easier and cheaper for a shop to print their labels with the standard price and then just have the tills work out the sales tax at the end than for every single product in every shop to have the tax included. It can’t make the product seem cheaper than other products, they’re all subject to the same sales tax.

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plasma7602@reddit

Guns, tipping, healthcare

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colnagoglyn@reddit

I’m not sure but the pricing issue is probably due to the sales tax is different in each state.

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lurcher54@reddit

all of them

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Ambitious_Rent_3282@reddit

None of them

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The_AJR@reddit

Unfortunately it seems to already be here but tipping culture. Don't add 10% on top of my food bill just for the privilege of bringing it to my table, I'd rather get up and collect it from the kitchen myself when it's ready.

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Optimal_Collection77@reddit

Haha. We should all do this. I'm happy to go behind a bar

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The_AJR@reddit

It's when they look at you like you've killed their children when you ask for it to be removed. We've all got families to feed and eating out is expensive enough as it is.

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idek_just_for_fun@reddit

School shootings

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Dennyisthepisslord@reddit

Shooting kids in school

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Much_Operation_7824@reddit

i hate the MM/DD/YYYY format, but i understand why.. its because they naturally say - "April 23rd" instead of "23rd of April" like we do.

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AdEmbarrassed3066@reddit

There's always the question of the "The Fourth of July" though... Where did that come from?

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MorningToast@reddit

That came from us. It was their independence day, they were British until that moment.

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kebabby72@reddit

Or do they say April 23rd because of their date format?

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Glittering_Box4815@reddit

Mass Shooting.

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spnelson@reddit

The loudness

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Geezso@reddit

Electing cunts..... No wait.....

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Sarrebas89@reddit

Going bankrupt from medical bills.

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Stephen_Withervee@reddit

Guns

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Ottazrule@reddit

Overuse of the word 'like'

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ChipCob1@reddit

Oi, Mancunians started that!

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pompombum@reddit

I would be so confused… putting half my shop back when I reached checkout

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Dynamite_Shovels@reddit

Their fucking self destructive politics. But that's inevitable sadly.

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GyroTech@reddit

> I’ve always look at it as the smaller integer goes first and the largest last So you write the time as SS:MM:HH ? ;)

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