Would you move to another European country from the UK if you could keep your current lifestyle? Where?
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For people living in the UK. If you had the chance to move to another European country and get a similar job, with a salary and cost of living that lets you keep basically the same lifestyle and purchasing power you have now, would you go or stay in the UK? Why and where would you move?
Spireiteboy@reddit
Bit hard to go and watch the Spireites every week if I’m abroad so not a chance I’m going😃
Potential-Bird-5826@reddit
Back home to the Netherlands. No hesitation
Teh_yak@reddit
Why? No criticism, I live in NL and like it lots. Not without problems, but nowhere is. If nothing else, for kids it seems like easy mode compared to the UK. I'm interested in your thoughts!
Potential-Bird-5826@reddit
I adore the food, (no really). I prefer the more direct social culture Other than that there's something to the vibe of the Netherlands that I prefer. I like the green spaces better too.
Part of it is no doubt nostalgic. I grew up in Gouda and I've never felt like I fit in, in the UK
Teh_yak@reddit
Ha, I do get you. Well, except the green spaces. That's the only thing I miss about the UK really. I mean the bigger green bits. Hilly things I can ride bikes on!
Not fitting in, I understand. I was generally a little too direct for the UK. Gouda is a nice place too.
Potential-Bird-5826@reddit
Bah, if God wanted me to cycle on hills he wouldn't have made Holland so flat 😂
Yeah, Dutch directness doesn't always mesh well with English mindsets
lilphoenixgirl95@reddit
Except those of us who are direct and get criticised and judged for it constantly
Majestic_Matt_459@reddit
No - I love the UK and Manchester where I live is stupidly affordable for a world class city
Im 6 mins on the train from centre - nightbus route - incredible nightlife
I went from one of the best restaurants in the Country (SKOF) on Saturday Lunch to drinks in the Village and then Cocktails at Velvet
Brits love to moan
Charming-Clock-3651@reddit
Manchester is ok but let's be honest, it's not nearly a world class city. It's probably somewhere in the second or third tier, but world class is the likes of London, Tokyo, new York, Sydney etc
ChanceBranch1146@reddit
Manchester is great but not sure if it counts as a world class city.
runawaydebt@reddit
Omg you lucky bean getting into SKOF!
Majestic_Matt_459@reddit
Took 2 mths but lunch is easier. Was only £55 I enjoyed it. Service amazing makes you feel like a king. Good great but we didn’t go the tasting menu so hmm
runawaydebt@reddit
Ah cool, we want to book a weekend tasting menu but there is never a date available. Just gotta keep looking 😬 if you like small plates Exhibition is a good one in Manc and was our back up when we didn't get a call for SKOF
lilphoenixgirl95@reddit
France
fsuk@reddit
I think the main point of moving is for a new life style but I think you mean standard of living.
Personally I would consider the Netherlands.
clodiusmetellus@reddit
It's not a sexy Mediterranean choice but the living just seems so good there. Great restaurants, lovely people, and insanely liveable, thriving cities with world-class transportation (and a dream for anyone who likes bikes).
fsuk@reddit
Yes... for the bikes.
LeeGamerUK@reddit
Bikes & Dikes.
Due-Presentation4344@reddit
Very windy though.
Nervous_Yard7034@reddit
Tell me you've never met a Dutchman without telling me you haven't met a Dutchman.
Due-Presentation4344@reddit
It’s not too dissimilar to the UK in my experience.
Having a few clients and third party companies I’ve worked with there, they are very straight talking but have a good sense of humour and know how to enjoy themselves.
I also love cycling, so yes, I’d live there.
JollyConfusion2545@reddit
Higher cost of living than UK, great though if you're ok with that
Middle_Guest_802@reddit
It’s more similar than you think, unless you like it that way
Amazing-Shower8399@reddit
I'm a Brit who lives in NL. Sometimes I forget how good I have it then I read posts here. Meh there's good and bad points like everywhere. Wherever you are, that's where you'll be and all that
KreuzKrow@reddit (OP)
You are right, I changed it now
Mammoth-Turnip-3058@reddit
Netherlands. Spain. Portugal. France. Germany. Switzerland. Italy.
Yeah, pretty much anywhere 😅
znv142@reddit
I have just done this. I work for myself and bought a lovely beach front property in my country (Bulgaria) after living for a fraction of the price of my UK flat.
I also travel a lot to Spain and I am generally between the two countries now.
Life is good!
SaintBobby_Barbarian@reddit
I feel like Bulgaria is pretty solid geographically.
black sea coast line for beaches and waves
rhodope mountains for skiing
close to Istanbul for fun things and flight hub
close to fun spots in the Aegean and eastern Med
Verdigri5@reddit
My (Bulgarian) mate dragged me there 18 months ago. I fell in love with the country and have been back 8 times since, next trip in June. I'd move there in a heartbeat.
Retro_virus@reddit
I hear it's great, what do you love about it?
xxxxxxxxxooxxxxxxxxx@reddit
Living the dream
Longjumping-Dingo398@reddit
Most likely Portugal , it’s gorgeous there and was great vibes when I went for a holiday .
d00000med@reddit
Same here. Lagos is lovely.
tszewski@reddit
Shhh don't let people find out about it
SaintBobby_Barbarian@reddit
Send the address to Lagos, Nigeria then lol
oldkstand@reddit
Lagos is already full of tourists and English people
noodlezs76@reddit
They’re all looking for those rich princes
coolsimon123@reddit
Yeah so, perfect, right? Same reason people go to Benidorm
paulmclaughlin@reddit
Too late, I've accidentally got confused and moved to Nigeria
homeofthe_dave@reddit
A holiday is nothing like living there - from someone who lived there for years.
Dangerous_Air_7031@reddit
How so?
SaintBobby_Barbarian@reddit
Salaries stink in Portugal, couple that with the cost of living due to expats, the ability to thrive there is low for European standards. That’s why you see a lot of skilled Portuguese moving to Luxembourg, Switzerland, Paris, etc
Tuniar@reddit
Currently live there, moving back home. It's not like a holiday. You either work for Portuguese money and the lifestyle is crap, or you import your own job and the lifestyle is good, but it's incredibly isolating.
I've had a good time here but for a permanent home, it's not as good as England.
Dangerous_Air_7031@reddit
Aren't the Portuguese easy to make friends with?
clrthrn@reddit
The only problem with Portugal is you need to import your own job with a North Western Europe salary level or else you're on €11k a year salary with no hope of ever returning to the UK . I know people who got trapped in Spain and Portugal and it's not nice.
DeliciousUse7585@reddit
Of course it was great vibes when you were on holiday
GoldenArchmage@reddit
I agree - I spent a week in Lisbon a couple of years ago and felt at the time that it was somewhere I could get used to. The only downside being the bloody steep hills everywhere of course 😂
Longjumping-Dingo398@reddit
Omg I forgot about the steep hills 🤣😭😭
Kind_Ad5566@reddit
Anywhere with more blue sky hours per year.
Doesn't need to be warmer, just more sunlight.
clrthrn@reddit
The unwritten law of Europe is that you can be employed, well paid but cold OR you can be employed, poorly paid but in the sunshine. There is nothing in the middle.
maxmarioxx_@reddit
There is. It's called France.
clrthrn@reddit
The job ops in Marseille are not the same as the jobs in bigger cities further north right down to pay in the south of France being lower than for similar jobs. France absolutely proves the rule but in one country, not between countries.
SaintBobby_Barbarian@reddit
Marseille is a dump though. Toulouse, Nice, Bordeaux do better
Akash_nu@reddit
And there’s a lot of studies carried out to rationalise the north vs south economic division. It’s a real thing.
opopkl@reddit
Yeah, people in the North of England get paid much higher wages than those in the South.
Akash_nu@reddit
I’m talking about north and south of Europe.
majkkali@reddit
Yeah but who wants to live in France bro
Turbulent_Pace_2388@reddit
I’d love to live In France, especially near the ski resorts of the alps. Beats south east England any day.
opopkl@reddit
They have better beaches and better mountains than us.
Turbulent_Pace_2388@reddit
Definitely mountains, I’m not too familiar with their beaches to be honest. The west side of the entire UK has an abundance of spectacular beaches. The east not as much but I love Brancaster in Norfolk and Broadstairs in Kent. Scarborough pretty decent too 😃
munta20@reddit
I live in the south of France for work. I don't like it. I miss Manchester.
Turbulent_Pace_2388@reddit
Fairs fair, I guess it’s no skiing holiday when you’re working?
majkkali@reddit
Aye, the Alps I can get behind
attilathetwat@reddit
France is a great country, weird prejudice
majkkali@reddit
I was joking
Advanced_Pay_3908@reddit
French bread, bakeries, quality of their produce. Yep id stay
dospc@reddit
Paris has the same weather as London or Amsterdam, and that's where the jobs are.
GiovanniVanBroekhoes@reddit
Southern Germany is very warm during the summer months. During the winter months not so much.
Phronesis2000@reddit
Those winters can be pretty long though.
MyManTheo@reddit
So is London to be fair
GiovanniVanBroekhoes@reddit
On average you get 3 months where it doesn't really drop below 25 degrees during the day in summer. London doesn't keep that warm. Plus a lot more rain.
You tend to get torrential rain for a few days in Munich.
trashmemes22@reddit
If your lucky enough to work remotely in the UK or a higher paying eu country you can work remotely in Spain/greece etc where cost of living is much lower
Jacko976@reddit
What he said ^
Albathin@reddit
Alberta's nice I hear.
attilathetwat@reddit
Yep, temp is fine, it’s just cloudy all the time
Nothing_F4ce@reddit
Can't really complain here in Norfolk and I'm originally from Portugal.
attilathetwat@reddit
Unusual complaint in the U.K. but Norfolk is the driest part of the country
Glittering_Sunrise12@reddit
I think she means in Portugal
JLaws23@reddit
This is what made me realise I can’t live here with my kids long term. I refuse to raise them in such a grey country and now the cost of living is so high and society is pitted against each other in such awful ways - there’s no reason to be here. Quality of life is so much higher pretty much anywhere else (I have lived in seven countries and I am British).
ReneRottingham@reddit
Good luck finding somewhere better
JLaws23@reddit
Like I said, I’ve lived in seven other countries, two were first world as well and the other five developing countries. Life in three of the developing countries and one of the first world ones was excessively better than anywhere in the U.K. - much higher standards in all ways when it came to quality of life. If you’re a city rat with no life and glorifies over working, then London is for you. If you value time with friends, real life and experiences, then gtfo outta here.
cloud__19@reddit
You're aware that the UK comprises of more than London I assume?
IdealLife4310@reddit
Can you name the places or not lmao
JLaws23@reddit
Australia, Chile, Uruguay and Argentina.
Fuzzy_Reindeer_2770@reddit
Good luck finding somewhere with a comparative lifestyle that's worst.
Kind_Ad5566@reddit
Too late for me.
My kids have seen a lot of Canada and the beautiful winter sunshine, I think at least one of them has hopes of moving there once their further education if finished.
Hertstom@reddit
I saw a thread on the long Canadian bitter cold winters getting people down
Kind_Ad5566@reddit
He said it sometimes feels like there's only 2 seasons, winter and summer.
Tammer_Stern@reddit
Same here
opopkl@reddit
Everywhere in the world gets the same amount of light. At the equator, they get rightly 12hrs a day year round. At the poles, they get 6 months constant light. In between, we get variations of that.
Macky93@reddit
Not Europe, but Calgary in Canada averages about 330 days of sun per year. Can get down to -35°C on a bad day, -20°C is normal in winter. Summer hits +33°C. Low humidity year roung
MountainPeaking@reddit
Just moved here - basically for this reason (and a good employer that supported a transfer).
Quality of life is very different to the UK. Much more sunshine but much more snow and cold weather. Far less rights in general (purchase protections, holiday days, etc etc). Cost of living is pretty similar but quality of life seems slightly better here - lots of fun things to do (skiing, hiking, fishing, paddle boarding on lakes). You can do lots of it in the UK, but it isn’t like Banff national park being 1 hour away.
i.e. when you buy a car from a dealership it can break down 100m down the road and they have no obligation to help you.
Moving abroad always makes you miss parts of the UK - it’s a great country overall that people are very fortunate to live in.
Grass is always greener!
Tammer_Stern@reddit
It does get beautiful weather and is brilliantly located to get away to the mountains.
It’s a very Americanised city though with a huge car culture. It’s huge as well. It was 40 miles drive to the airport for example.
Kind_Ad5566@reddit
Yeah, thats where my cousin is, we've spent a lot of time there.
Beautiful blue winter skies, but he says the cold does eventually get to you.
The summers seem to be getting worse with smoke from wild fires. Last time I was visiting there were 1500 fires on going in the rockies which made the air quality very poor.
Macky93@reddit
Cold is rough below a certain point. And the smoke has gotten worse, we're having a late winter (snowing in Friday) so hopefully the fires won't be too bad. But fires are part of the natural cycle, just worsened by climate change.
Still worthwhile though, life out here is nice
Alundra828@reddit
I have no business liking Italy as much as I do... I'm a pasty guy that loves and thrives in the cold wet weather.
But every time I go Italy I just... really, really like it... It's a beautiful country to the point where I just feel really contented there. And of course, Europe is full of beautiful countries, even ones that aren't traditionally beautiful. Like Poland is never really thought of as a beauty spot, but I find rural Poland to be very beautiful. And there are places like Spain where I don't really see the beauty in that kind of landscape in a lot of cases... But Italy is just breath taking and on another level.
I love the UK, I think it's one of the most beautiful places on the planet, particularly where I live in the West Country. But I cannot logically rank the UK higher than Italy... I just can't do it...
ScreamingDizzBuster@reddit
I married an Italian and now live in one of the most stunning parts of Italy, and I rejoice in the positives of being here. Weather, food, scenery, history, culture, architecture - it can't be beaten. There's a warmth and tolerance and flexibility of thinking here that we've somehow lost in the UK - the south-east of England at least.
But I warn you, there are downsides to life here that can be huge and insurmountable, and sometimes even make me want to move home.
Mysterious-Fortune-6@reddit
What are the bad bits?
ScreamingDizzBuster@reddit
The first one is the bureaucracy. It's a big cliché, but it's not only true but far worse than you can imagine. For most government functions the law is interpreted depending on region, office, and even the individual behind the counter. Particularly you're foreign, a lot of the time people don't actually know the procedures and are guessing, give you the wrong forms, or try to fob you off and send you to another office. Every time you need to do something to do with the government - which is way more than in the UK - you need to allow about half a day. Also for any the last 30 years the UK has had a philosophy of simplifying communications, including government websites etc. Italy has a different philosophy which guards expertise and information with obscure language. Banks and post offices are shit too.
Next, the salaries are tragically low by international standards, and taxes are very high. There's no tax-free allowance so every penny you earn is taxed. The equivalent of NI is about the same as the UK for employees but if you're self-employed it's currently more than 26% of your entire income, even before tax. In this case total deductions can approach 70% of gross income. There's a scheme to reduce the burden but it's capped at €85k which limits success for entrepreneurs.
Infrastructure can be really shonky. Repairs to roads etc. are measured in months and even years. In one case near my mother-in-law's house they've been waiting for more than a decade for a closed lane to be reopened.
In work and government, there's very little forward planning. People work on projects and do a great job but the idea of planning and budgeting for maintenance, e.g. five years into the future is rarely considered (because it's boring). This leads to fantastic headlines and disappointing, crumbling reality. Missing deadlines is de rigeur, and not replying to emails is standard. In my own case I sometimes have to do a 7-hour round trip just to get a response in person to enquiries sent repeatedly to colleagues by email and WhatsApp.
Finally Macy drivers are genuinely bad. It gets worse the further south you go. There are plenty of great drivers around but the proportion of shitty, aggressive, selfish and dangerous ones is much higher than the UK. Almost nobody uses their blinkers. There's a machismo and a "win at all costs" philosophy from some men that permeates this and general attitudes in life. Also they rarely strap kids in to the back seat which gives me the heebie-jeebies. I even see kids in the front seat, and in car seats, but without the belt done up.
One more positive thing I'll say is that the health service, while a bit of a pain to navigate, is what the NHS should be. I have found it consistently superb, with all sorts of screening and diagnostics as standard that we rarely access in the UK unless we fight for it. When you see a GP they spend ages looking after you and making sure you've got everything you need. A standard appointment is 45 minutes to an hour. They've both saved my life and my ability to walk (thanks to one of the aforementioned shitty drivers).
Also nursery childcare is free, which frees up couples to work with very little financial burden, which is a massive positive difference compared to the UK.
Illustrious-End-5084@reddit
Thanks for the info. I got married in Italy and my wife is polish so the postal service was used and nearly cost me my wedding.
I love the thought of Italy as it’s so dreamy. But dealing with the postal service alone gave me a good snapshot as to why so many Italians would leave the garden or Eden for cold wet UK. I couldn’t understand it before. We take a lot of things for granted in uk
escapingfromelba@reddit
I can't remember the Italian, but there was a slang phrase about getting a 'kick in the arse' that meant you needed someone with a connection to get you past bureacracy. I spent hours with a then girlfriend trying to get a second hand car registered, much of the time phoning around to see if someone knew someone
Mysterious-Fortune-6@reddit
Yikes. I lived in France for a while and found that quite frustrating but once you've completed the installation admin - which is truly maddening - life is usually fairly straightforward and doesn't trouble you too much thereafter. I didn't like the feel of having to deal with the state far more often than in the UK but ultimately you get your head round the idea it's more "high contact" and the state's much larger role in your life also involves looking after you better (child benefit, childcare, transport etc etc).
I would struggle with the unreliability at work you describe though.
ScreamingDizzBuster@reddit
I've never lived in France but from what I hear the bureaucratic burden may be as high as Italy, but it appears to be more consistent, centralised, and competent. E.g. most government offices in Italy issue appointment times, but when you get there the time is usually completely irrelevant, there's always an hour or two to wait, and the order in which people are seen is always a chaotic free-for-all bundle. Old people are adept at pushing into queues with "just one question" and also people known to the bureaucrats often get seen first.
As long as I'm not dealing with a government office I love life here, but as soon as I do my blood pressure goes through the roof. I am very bad at learning patience, though I've had to.
dead_jester@reddit
Lived in Italy for a year. Loved it, but you are right, there's stuff that is just damned annoying. Left because the secondment came to an end.
Illustrious-End-5084@reddit
Yes Italy is like a dream
Wide-Cartoonist722@reddit
>I'm a pasty guy that loves and thrives in the cold wet weather.
Can I tell you about Cornwall?
Miltoni@reddit
My immediate thought is the Scottish Highlands...
Steenies@reddit
What's their pasty game like?
attilathetwat@reddit
Pasties don’t exist but Scottish pies are the mutts nuts
attilathetwat@reddit
Italy is the best country to visit but expensive and complicated to live in
maxmarioxx_@reddit
I am absolutely in love with Italy. I believe it's the country that has the most beautiful cities, balanced lifestyle and great urbanism in general.Buildings built to provide shade, genuine coffee shops every other street, AMAZING pastries 🥐 and balanced weather. I also think their transport system between Rome, Venice, Milan is 1st class and very affordable.
The other thing l like about Italy is that you don't feel like your wallet got robbed every time you buy a coffee, cake, enter a museum or get a train or bus. It's refreshing - as someone who lives in the UK.
Illustrious-End-5084@reddit
Italy 🇮🇹
daksh798@reddit
yeah i would live in germany or spain
Shpander@reddit
Lol no, the whole point of me moving to Europe would be to improve my standard of living. Of course.
Omadster@reddit
Poland for sure ....going to have better economy than uk in just a couple of years
Relative_Sea3386@reddit
Switzerland or one of the Nordic countries. I'd like my kids to have a good STEM education and outdoor life, ski all winter and bike all summer.
Feersum_endjjinn@reddit
Germany, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, Italy, spain, Serbia, Bosnia & H' Croatia, monte negro
pogadog@reddit
I went to netherlands recently. The air quality is insane because of the public transport and, more importantly, cycle infastructure. At least in and around amsterdam. Is like going to an alien planet where people remembered climate change exists and don't just want you to die by going outside. Not all sunshine and roses however as its built on shell oil money, and a lot of other money does come from tourists and visiters flying constantly.
Genuinely just existing in and around that area is so much more pleasent. Its a big crowded city that feels like a small village. UK is close to that walkability in a lot of areas, but the high streets haven't been butchered yet there and again, way less cars, way nicer to just walk around and breathe the air.
They do have the advantage of excess of water to grow things beacause they stole part of the sea with engineering and voodoo magic, at least until sea level rise outpaces their ability to wall it off.
_franciis@reddit
Go to Austria and your quality of life will increase. Cost of living in Vienna is not so bad - groceries are expensive but the rest is cheap compared to the UK. It’s also hot in the summer, cold in the winter, and you can get on a tram in the city centre that drops you off at the vineyards.
Gbrown546@reddit
No.
I can’t tolerate any heat that gets past about 25c. With climate change getting worse year on year and seeing how severe it gets on mainland Europe, I’m quite happy here.
Although if that wasn’t an issue, I’d love southern France.
SpecialistDaikon4663@reddit
A Greek island would suit me
pnlrogue1@reddit
Wouldn't mind Germany but I'd want to speak the language better. Yes, I have 1st hand experience of them speaking English better than I do, but still - I'd want to speak German if I lived there
kelleehh@reddit
Netherlands.
ImaginationInside610@reddit
France - specifically Corsica
therealhairykrishna@reddit
It's tricky because I'd have to move my kids now.
But if I could live in Amsterdam or Helsinki and keep my current lifestyle, yes.
DL3432@reddit
We used to be able to do this, you know.
nomadic_weeb@reddit
You know that visas are thing right? Its significantly more difficult now, but we can still move abroad
Appropriate_Trader@reddit
You used to be able to rock up and say “I want to live here now” and EU countries would say “yes of course you have the right to residence anywhere in the EU”
Now they say “get the fuck out”.
Can you see the difference?
nomadic_weeb@reddit
There is no difference - like I said, more difficult but not impossible.
FireBun@reddit
Most people can't though. You need to be a specialist to get a visa and most eu countries make the employer prove no EU person can do the job so young brits doing bar work is a thing of the past (unless they are lucky enough to have Irish grandparents)
nomadic_weeb@reddit
You're aware that your line of work is in fact one of the things people are including when discussing the difficulty of moving abroad right? You aren't actually contradicting me, despite what you may think
Vurbetan@reddit
I really wish I'd moved to Munich when I was in my early twenties.
I've recently moved from Hertfordshire to the Isle of Wight. Lots more sun and blue skies. Lovely
smeghead9916@reddit
Ireland because I'm terrible at learning languages
GingerrJinx@reddit
Yes. Go back to my home in Spain. Definitely. Las Canarias or maybe movitto Azores.
kreygmu@reddit
I’d live in Cyprus but up in the mountains to shelter from the heat in summer.
woody196704@reddit
As I’m near to retirement, I’d happily move to any warmer, sunnier climate.
ElleJay1907M@reddit
Denmark or finnland
skailantern@reddit
i just came back from Rome. I would absolutely love to move to Italy. or Turkey. with the hopes i have a better life than i do rn lol i’m at the brink of ending things here 😅
thingsdotwales@reddit
Anywhere in Norway please.
5ubredhit@reddit
Of course I would, it’s shit here. If it’s Europe I’d like to live in the Basque Country.
naynaeve@reddit
I want to say Italy because of the beautiful place and weather. But as a south asian immigrant I think UK is the best place for us. Even with EDL and reform UK is by far the most welcoming country for south asian immigrants.
VigilanteDeadlifter@reddit
Poland is looking pretty good rn
QuickWalk4862@reddit
I know that when we have lighter mornings and evenings I’m more inclined to go out walking 2-3 times a day, I’ve already lost weight since Xmas due to wanting to be out and about. I’d like to move somewhere like that. I also visited the South of France a few years ago and fell in love.. so maybe somewhere like that?!
Miserable-Media4527@reddit
This question actually made me realise how much I dislike the UK.
I'd live in Southern Brittany without question. I spent a lot of time there as a child and I fell in love with that region!
I'd also take the Netherlands for the cycling culture or Italy.
If it wasn't for family ties (and not having a passport) I don't think I'd still be in the UK.
koyliMeld9003@reddit
Norway or Finland. Not many dinghy botherers there.
SupportNo9543@reddit
Poland 100%
loveswimmingpools@reddit
I like the weather in the UK. If I had more money though id like to live in Portugal. So I could have a pool in the garden that I could actually make use of.
Spikyleaf69@reddit
No, in fact I wouldn't leave Staffordshire
greytidalwave@reddit
My Mum lives in Spain and I have an Irish passport. The temptation is real.
goodarmsvsbadarms@reddit
Sweden seems nice. I'm sure I'd hate the weather, but my friends told me they don't have those signs on public transport that say "please don't physically assault our staff"
benjymous@reddit
Much colder and darker in the winter, but more hours of sunshine in the rest of the year (and equivalent of a northern UK city in the summer, if not warmer)
And yeah, seems like a cleaner, happier, more friendly place in general from the times we've visited
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_average_temperature#Europe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_sunshine_duration#Europe
Far-Importance1234@reddit
More friendly people? Hell no
codechris@reddit
Sweden is not friendlier the the UK by miles. Also winter is brutally long. The UK not so much (depending on where)
deHaga@reddit
Apart from the bombings.
Typical-Newspaper409@reddit
So I have to go to Sweden if I want to beat up a bus driver, got it.
sniffing_dog@reddit
I'd be out of the UK like a shot. I'd move to the Netherlands. 🇳🇱
Nervous_Yard7034@reddit
Anywhere.
larneymel@reddit
Malta
Nicktrains22@reddit
I think it would be hard to get a job in my particular field due to the language barrier, but if I lived in an area where the language is easy to learn I could see myself doing a few years abroad. I'd never want to permanently leave though
Substantial_Air_1473@reddit
I would move to Spain in a heartbeat!!!
RaggamuffinTW8@reddit
I speak German and Portuguese. My wife is Portuguese. I'm close to getting a Portuguese passport.
Once I can arrange a remote job I'm off forever.
Poison_Jaguar@reddit
British east india
OffensiveOcelot@reddit
Cyprus.
WILKOFL@reddit
Poland
gregd303@reddit
Lived in Poland 11 years, the weather is way better with actual seasons, snow in the winter , autumn leaves spring and summer sunshine. Less clouds and more blue skies. It's clean, safe and the transport works. Not a lot to dislike really.
neneumi@reddit
I'd move to Spain or Portugal in a heartbeat!
Longjumping_Bar_6128@reddit
Spain, no question
smithykate@reddit
Literally anywhere!
Lost_wonderlust@reddit
Austria, love it very similar hut with better weather and landscape
Worried-Departure386@reddit
If I could keep current job remote then I go Poland
SassyKardashian@reddit
My company approved my transfer to Southern Spain last year. I got to keep my London salary, my life wastly improved - i got off antidepressants, gained muscle, started gym, met 10x the amount of friends than i ever did in London, and generally feel much more alive and happy. Best decision i made in the last 10 years.
KreuzKrow@reddit (OP)
That sounds great. Happy for you, dear stranger 😊
Shoddy_Pilot_2737@reddit
Nope, the whole point of moving to Europe is that you don't have to keep your current lifestyle, including the standard of life and purchasing power.
I'm gonna be moving to Spain this year to have a slower standard of life and a better work/life balance.
impamiizgraa@reddit
Obvious for me is Switzerland because of my work. But dream would be Turkey.
Fit_Search_4751@reddit
Spain or Italy
Marvel--Jesus@reddit
Yes. I'd like to be swimming in the med at 4pm after my shift.
abyssal-isopod86@reddit
Poland.
It's an absolute beautiful country and I have friends there.
tacticall0tion@reddit
If I moved to any European country I'd probably be better off... the UK doesn't value "skilled" workers like myself anymore. I'm a metal fabricator.
Downside is my fiancée can't just transfer to another country without either learning the language, or retraining due to the job she does. She is a Speech Language Therapist, so kinda important she can communicate fluently
steffaann11@reddit
I’m from Portugal and I know a lot of people would love to live there, and it’s a beautiful country don’t get me wrong, but you just have no idea how expensive rent is. Lisbon is the only city in the world where the average rent is above the average salary. A lot of people live with their parents well into their 40s because they simply cannot rent :(
clanshephard@reddit
I'd move to Malta tomorow, Budapest/Hungary after doing a bit of research as to housing areas, Athens would be way to hot in the summer, but would happily live there.
Rich_Organization107@reddit
Malta is nice but tiny the year round weather is great .
Independent_Today819@reddit
Yes, Malta or France for me
Easy_Effort7985@reddit
Worked in Malta for a few months. Cant see the appeal. Change my mind.
Humble-Stay9771@reddit
Not permanently. All my friends family wider community and a great cultural scene are part of what makes me happy living in Scotland/UK. I do most of my travelling to other countries in the colder months if the weather gets me down. I love spring summer and autumn here. Even the run up to Christmas is fun with all the lights and events.
Bitter_Tradition_938@reddit
Why would we want to keep the same lifestyle? I would love not to - I would love having access to healthcare, not paying a fortune for food, seeing police on the streets, not just in films, etc.
iesamina@reddit
I would move to Iceland or northern Norway tomorrow if I was allowed to. I want cold. I love the Nordic countries.
GUBEvision@reddit
throw a dart at the centre with a hangover and I'll take the result
Morganx27@reddit
Good luck on your new life in the channel
Educational-Long116@reddit
We’ll wait for the results update us here as soon as u do that. We’re countin on ya
AndrewHinds67@reddit
Somewhere that gets lots of sunshine, clear skies at night and isn't freezing cold in winter.
continentaldreams@reddit
Germany! Berlin to be specific. It has a certain vibe that I love - I can't even put my finger on it. I've been 8 times now and every time I discover something new.
AndrewHinds67@reddit
I love Berlin. I've been twice and would definitely go again.
LadyMirkwood@reddit
This is my pick too.
It would have to be within earshot of the U-Bahn, though. I like the sound of trains at night. Our old house was like that and I loved it
Andika421@reddit
We moved with my job to Budapest last summer, I kept my UK salary, but now I have a nice inner city apartment and gorgeous weather and all a big city can offer instead of being in a small town with nothing to do and crap weather in the UK
Sensitive-Sell4730@reddit
Germany.
VeryTrueThing@reddit
No. The reason to move would be a better lifestyle.
-secretsocietytattoo@reddit
Finland, the happiest place in Europe!
Geniejc@reddit
Yes Portugal, specifically east Algarve somewhere near olhao, ideally one of the islands of it.
xxxxxxxxxooxxxxxxxxx@reddit
Spain for sure.
tyger2020@reddit
Honestly Spain, I would sell a kidney to move to Spain and maintain my current wage/job.
EUskeptik@reddit
I would move to Italy, possibly Spain or Sweden.
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Less_Win2234@reddit
I'd be moiving to another country to improve my lifestyle
TwoPlyDreams@reddit
Do I have to keep my lifestyle?
lukehardiman@reddit
I'm lifestyle-curious. This one feels low on life and style.
GoshILoveSlothS@reddit
Best comment, brightened my day thank you
KreuzKrow@reddit (OP)
Well, same ot better haha
Easy_Effort7985@reddit
This 😂
SoggyWotsits@reddit
I’d love to live somewhere warmer, but I also love living somewhere so green (Cornwall). The downside of plenty of sunshine is a lot less greenery.
moneydazza@reddit
Portugal. Lisbon or Porto.
If I could keep my role virtually I would try hard to put a case forward to my wife.
NoCold3997@reddit
Errrr nope lived abroad years ago these days it's just to much faff and im retired so it's a easy decision.
trysca@reddit
I tried moving to Sweden- hated it and moved back home. All sorts of worries about ageing/ dying parents, tax and pensions as well as low level xenophobia alongside a horrible climate and food didn't make up for the supposedly 'better' standard of living - they do have nice tapwater though!
macrowe777@reddit
Moving to France would certainly reduce the carbon cost of my wine and cheese
Klichouse@reddit
I'd move to Poland if I could speak the language,
Ok-Flamingo2801@reddit
I'd love to, but no. I'm terrible with languages and just thinking about learning a new language reminds me of all the stress I put myself in during my GCSEs where I tried and failed to do French and Spanish at the same time. Any benefits of moving to a different country would be negated by the stress of trying to learn a different language.
R0gu3tr4d3r@reddit
In a heartbeat.
crookedline5@reddit
No. I would never give up my Grade II listed house. I wanted one since I was 14 and now I've got one. I could probably get another one in Germany or Belgium, but my in-laws are aging and it would be incredibly rude to just abandon them.
LeFuzzyOtter@reddit
Yes and I will be soon hopefully.
Longjumping_Car3318@reddit
Denmark. It's nice and I speak Danish.
Plantain-Feeling@reddit
Spain
PolarLocalCallingSvc@reddit
No, otherwise I would've done it already.
PsychologicalWish800@reddit
Yes absolutely I would move. Anywhere with clean streets.
BOLTINGSINE@reddit
Italian women looks good to me
Superb-Ad-8823@reddit
Yes we would move. Probably Spain or Portugal.
Cold_Raspberry520@reddit
Spain i like actual warmth and seasons . Summer i wish we had guaranteed sunshine
FitSolution2882@reddit
Spain or Portugal
I fucking hate the weather here
miked999b@reddit
No, I like it here. I'd miss it if I lived anywhere else.
FeistyUnicorn1@reddit
Cyprus without a doubt, I have friends that live there.
Imaginary_Pin_4196@reddit
I have an Irish passport and looking into Netherlands or some parts of Italy. I’ve been recommended Prague.
Teh_yak@reddit
As much as I love living here, I can't recommend moving to the Netherlands given the housing situation. Unless you can buy and probably outside the Randstad.
KreuzKrow@reddit (OP)
Prague is a great option tbh
Imaginary_Pin_4196@reddit
It’s considerably cheaper. I’m looking into it as I work remotely.
KreuzKrow@reddit (OP)
Can I ask in what line of work if it is not too much?
Imaginary_Pin_4196@reddit
Freelance writer
Food-in-Mouth@reddit
Italy, sadly I don't have the skills to move.
Gibber_jab@reddit
Portugal
DesLynam@reddit
Copenhagen
Apprehensive_Ad4172@reddit
Slovenia. Fresh air, lakes, nice summers.
Aintseenmeroit@reddit
I think the whole idea would be not to have to keep your current lifestyle.
EyeAlternative1664@reddit
France. Specifically Marseille.
MrD-88@reddit
Poland, theres a reason they're all going back.
ssushi-speakers@reddit
I think people leave to get a better standard of living.
Azuras-Becky@reddit
Malta. Gozo specifically. It's my favourite place in the world. If I was wealthier and my mum was healthier I'd already be there.
EuroSong@reddit
No, because I only speak English, and would not want to become that person who always expects other people to switch their language for him. The Brits living in Spain are the worst for this.
KreuzKrow@reddit (OP)
You could also learn the language
EuroSong@reddit
I actually learned reasonable Swedish when I was in my early 20s, because I was chatting only to a girl I fell in love with - from Sweden. The grammar is very easy, and Swedish music is excellent. However, 99% of people in Sweden speak far better English than I do Swedish anyway, so it's quite useless.
What I meant was that I would not want to be at an obvious disadvantage in another country by not sdpeaking their language natively. Yes, I could learn another language. But I will never be as good as a native, and therefore not the best citizen I could possibly be.
TheKhaos121@reddit
That standard would go down hill fast the second they catch on that I only speak English
rebelallianxe@reddit
Spain, specifically Canary Islands, more specifically Fuerteventura.
TraditionalScheme337@reddit
I dont have a gift for languages but I must admit I fancy moving to a place in the sun. Not possible unfortunately but it's a nice dream, living in a villa in Italy or Spain
swiftpotatoskin@reddit
If I wasn't old and had family/wife kids and grandkids, I would move to Germany, I speak basic German and would love to learn the language and experience the German culture.
Outrageous_Bar6729@reddit
Friends and family would keep me here. I would love to move somewhere warmer and sunnier, I am a real sun lover but I couldn't leave friends and family.
friedman72@reddit
Vatican City State.
WinkyNurdo@reddit
I could live anywhere; my job is fully remote. Maybe Denmark. Copenhagen is a fantastic city. Or a Greek island. But really I’m a complete homebody, and very happy with my lot in the UK, currently living on the SE coast with views of the sea.
KreuzKrow@reddit (OP)
What kind of job do you have, if I am allowed to ask?
WinkyNurdo@reddit
Graphic design; small company, all fully remote. However, I’ve got over thirty years under my belt, which has very much facilitated current position. For anyone starting out, I would strongly advise working in office/studio with experienced seniors.
Electronic-Score5904@reddit
Already did it, moved to the Czech Republic. On paper my salary is a bit lower but in real terms my quality of life is vastly improved. UK is an absolute shithole these days and only getting worse.
KreuzKrow@reddit (OP)
I am thinking about doing exactly the same. Moving to the Czech Republic (or maybe Poland or Norway). In what things you feel your quality of life has improved in the Czech Republic?
Electronic-Score5904@reddit
Not an exhaustive list but some things that spring to mind straight away. I'm talking specifically about central Prague in these answers; things will be a bit different in other areas but still night and day compared to UK cities.
* Clean
* Safe, no risk of urban youth getting all stabby.
* Doctor appointments, even specialists within a couple of weeks
* Small classes in schools
* Well-maintained streets and buildings
* Can afford to live very centrally in a very modern apartment
* Can afford to eat out every day if I wanted
* Parks everywhere, well-maintained and free
* Insanely good public transport
* Great weather with proper seasons.
Don't get me wrong, it's not perfect, but I'm in no danger of living in the UK again anytime soon.
KreuzKrow@reddit (OP)
Those are very decent reasons to move somewhere to be honest. A lot of this points are the reason I would like to move there. Glad to see that they are true
dwair@reddit
I've lived in Spain once and SW France twice. I'd be off like a shot to either.
I wouldn't want to keep my current lifestyle though. I want to go back to basing it around the outdoors in warm dry weather, good food and good wine.
Substantial_Bar_7127@reddit
I'd go to Paris. Spent a year there when studying and absolutely loved it. Alternative would be Germany - my husband was half German so we spent a lot of time there. (I'm from Northern Ireland and have Irish citizenship as well as UK, which makes it all easier.)
EitherChannel4874@reddit
Probably Spain for the warmer weather and less rainfall per year. Rain really messes with my injured body and makes it hurt twice as bad.
12Keisuke@reddit
yes easily
LovlehKebab@reddit
Not sure in regard to salary/cost of living to the same standard but I would live in Poland no problem.
RaidersGunz@reddit
Yes 100% Anywhere with hot weather. Greece, Spain, Cyprus, Portugal, Malta Anywhere
sorinssuk@reddit
Somwhere in Europe with less extremely religious people. Probably a small city in Spain or Switzerland.
Roofless_@reddit
Czech Republic. My partner is from there and it’s beautiful. We could move there and I could basically retire at 32 with her salary there.
KreuzKrow@reddit (OP)
I would definitely move to the Czech Republic
SnooDonuts6494@reddit
Why the hell would I want to keep my current lifestyle?
KreuzKrow@reddit (OP)
Maybe you like it
nonotthestew@reddit
My husband's got a job on Finland so we're moving this summer. I have loved my time in the UK, but also I'm excited to go. The salary is higher there and we'll be able to get a bigger house, we love the outdoors and don't mind the cold. Very much looking forward to skiing again.
KreuzKrow@reddit (OP)
Jealoous! Finland is Amazing! I used to live there and I would go back in a heartbeat if I could get a job there!
Fabulous-Abalone-363@reddit
I'd go to Ireland.
Tea, fish and chips, drive on the left, speak English, fried breakfast....
The only other civilised place!
Remarkable-Ad155@reddit
I would move to Portugal, most likely. Actually could likely do so and keep my job; same time zone, just much better weather. Not sure on the wife's career though. Also, ultimately would feel a bit of a cunt, given the housing shortage in Portugal with comparatively well off foreigners coming in on.digital nomad visas making it worse.
Fuzzy_Reindeer_2770@reddit
France is my number one choice as I already speak the language, but if not then Sweden, Norway or Denmark. I just want to live somewhere where your hard work pays off instead of being robbed by taxes and a useless govt that leaves the country an utter shithole.
I love the French people and how they would never let their govt treat them this way - they'd be shutting down whole industries if they even tried.
apexmusic0402@reddit
Norway or Denmark.
Several-berries@reddit
Can confirm Denmark is lovely
Tattycakes@reddit
No, I don’t speak any of the languages
Wububadoo@reddit
I'd jump ship to anywhere mate.
Ashamed_Seat6430@reddit
Honestly, the dream of more sunlight is so tempting that I'd probably put up with a bit of lifestyle change if it meant fewer grey days. Somewhere like Portugal or the south of France would be ideal for that.
doraisexploring27@reddit
I would love to live in Scandinavia. Tbh I’d live in Svalbard if I could, but I’d settle for the north of Norway or Sweden
Danny-boy6030@reddit
I'd happily move to Eastern Europe for the better weather and slower pace.
Dangerous-Web-1962@reddit
France, in a heartbeat....
apple_kicks@reddit
Italy has pretty good work life balance. Nice food and beaches.
Netherlands similar to uk culture, food and weather
Matterbox@reddit
Austrian mountains.
PretendPop8930@reddit
Zell am See is one of my favourite places.
Eggtastico@reddit
Tirol area of Italy / Dolomites.
PerLin107@reddit
France like Peter Mayle
Pleasant_Werewolf_30@reddit
I would love to live in France. I visit often and I love the food, countryside, architecture, and history. But my French is terrible so the job situation and being able to fit in (language) would be my stumbling block. I'll just have to make do with obsessively watching TV shows and YouTube of other people who have done this and regularly visiting.
Aidenk77@reddit
I’d move to France in a heartbeat.
NrthnLd75@reddit
On the first train out.
AdmirableAthlete8823@reddit
French alps. For the outdoors life, lakes, good infrastructure, sun but able to get cool by going up hill!
PretendPop8930@reddit
Hank_Wankplank@reddit
Similar for me, south of France somewhere equidistant from the Alps and the coast. Few hours to the beach in summer, few hours to the mountains in winter. Perfect.
Jacktheforkie@reddit
I think Finland would be a nice option, Norway too
KatVanWall@reddit
Norway. I hate too much heat and thrive in the dark as well! (I know the summer days would be longer, but avoids quite so much high temperatures ...)
Cute-Cat-2351@reddit
Yes, France
bibipbapbap@reddit
Northern France for me, either Brittany or Normandy, I can get a farm house with land for the same price as my 3 bed semi in the south east.
clrthrn@reddit
I did. In 2014, to the Netherlands and my standard of living improved immeasurably. My parents are a bit older now and I would like to come back but I am not giving up my higher disposable income, our much healthier lifestyle (despite weather very similar to the UK), my kid is bilingual and learning her 3rd langauge now at 9 yrs old, she would not wear a school uniform at gunpoint and I would have to buy my first car in a decade to be able to live properly. The only things I really miss are my parents, the BBC, M&S food halls and Greggs. Dutch are decent people, culture wise they are what I imagine the British would be if UK wasn't an island - drinkers, like banter, suspicious of Germans/French, national dish is either mashed potatoes or some stolen colonial food - mainland Brits!
Boofagoofdoof@reddit
I mostly don't mind living in the UK really, everywhere has its bad bits and good bits. I really like Greece, especially the Peloponnese, but I don't know if I'd want to live there full-time. You can't really gauge what it's like to live somewhere by going there on holiday.
I-Spot-Dalmatians@reddit
Poland or Italy I think. For different reasons. That is assuming I magically learn to speak the language somehow
ambergriswoldo@reddit
Absolutely Greece - the only thing stopping me is family at this point
lwbyomp@reddit
I've lived in Netherlands & that was a fine country to live in, very much enjoyed my time there.
gfyans@reddit
Spain (or Portugal). I speak some Spanish so I'd be able to settle in quicker, but I just love the food, the culture, the weather, the lifestyle etc.
I'd move to Spain in a heartbeat.
Minimum_Airline3657@reddit
swiss alps
Thelichemaster@reddit
Serbia, loved the vibe there plus know someone already out there that may help smooth initial adaption issues.
Moving4Motion@reddit
My wife is Portuguese and I think we should retire there but she doesn't want to.
Absentmined42@reddit
Yes. I’d go for Denmark, Sweden, France, the Netherlands or Spain or maybe Italy. I love the culture in all of these countries.
Nutty-Frangipane@reddit
Litteraly helped my mate move to the south coast of Spain last week, lovely weather and food
He’s retired so not an issue for him but if I could keep my current London salary and move there it would be a very good lifestyle
3 coffees and nice sandwiches in a local bakery came to about £10, here you’re looking at £30 minimum lol
merryman1@reddit
I couldn't get over being in Milan for a work trip and the standard rate for a coffee was 1 euro lol. Quite often they'd bring us out a little slice of cake or some biscuits for free as well. And that's like ostensibly the most expensive financially cut-throat city in all of Italy.
elementarydrw@reddit
I am in the forces and I am currently stationed in Germany - so I am literally doing my same job, but in a different country (with a house provided), and it's fantastic. Although there are parts that make me really miss home.
Haytham_Ken@reddit
Anywhere that's good for LGBT people. Surprisingly Malta is the most LGBT friendly country in Europe.
CaptainYorkie1@reddit
Stay, reason? Heritage Railways, Heritage Bus Days & DalesBus
EatingCoooolo@reddit
With a UK salary I could live pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty good.
NoseGraze@reddit
Probably not.
I like UK weather. If I were to find a European country with equivalent weather I'm probably looking at having to learn another language. My lifestyle would make that very hard. (Work from home, don't go out much, etc)
PennyBunPudding@reddit
Keep my current lifestyle? Oh. No. I'd prefer a better one
EatingCoooolo@reddit
I would need to be near the beach or at least a short drive. Definitely southern Spain (it’s my dream) but would consider the whole Mediterranean. Somewhere cheap with good food and nightlife also easier to fly out from. Alicante, maybe south of Barcelona.
PinkBlossomDayDream@reddit
I would love to live somwhere with a warmer/sunnier climate. It just makes you feel so much better to wake up with the sun on your face. 🌞
I'd probably choose Greece but I'm open to different places too
pixelunicorns@reddit
I was born in Germany and I would love to go back. Ive never been there as an adult but remember great weather, beautiful landscapes, friendly people, and I have felt the only thing thst stops me is that I am rubbish at learning other languages!
TrueMog@reddit
The ONLY reason I’d move was if it improved my quality of life.
I am not particularly wedded to England, but I do speak the language which really matter matters!!
Moving would require my son to change schools and for us to leave our families behind. Not something I’d want to do lightly.
nomadic_weeb@reddit
I wouod happily move to Germany or Malta
AnonymousTimewaster@reddit
Absolutely. I'd do it in a heartbeat. Main reason I haven't is that my wife isn't keen on moving abroad. And then of course it's difficult enough to find a job here, nevermind in a country where I don't even know the language. One of the main things I hate about this country is the climate, so if I can solve that I'd be happy as Larry. So I guess Aus might be a good choice.
Mrs_Biscuit@reddit
I came from Australia 20 years ago and I much prefer the climate here 🤣
JLaws23@reddit
Oz is the British dream to be fair. Same culture in the good ways and just insane beaches. I found it to be the place with the best and happiest British culture. Absolutely stunning place all round.
Mrs_Biscuit@reddit
You're not wrong, I think the beaches there are the best in the world and it is a stunning country. But the heat and dry for me was so extreme that I couldn't function in it. I do love it there when I go back to visit but I'd never choose to live there again.
DL3432@reddit
Our climate has some upsides. We get a huge amount of light between April and September. And 30 degrees with unbroken sunshine isn't much fun when it's every day for several months. Some places have almost no daily variability in their summer weather and that can get difficult.
AnonymousTimewaster@reddit
Light isn't much good if it's behind clouds. Unbroken cloud cover for 8 months of the year just isn't my cup of tea unfortunately. I'm thinking we may have another 2024 this year.
I do enjoy long summer nights a lot, but not as much as I absolutely detest November-January where it's pitch black at 4pm and pissing it down.
I'd rather have blue skies every day.
Snoo-82295@reddit
Croatia.
AliceB951@reddit
Absolutely, I'd love to move to Sweden, Iceland would be my dream... But the language, I've tried and failed so hard 😅
stellardecay@reddit
My husband's Dutch so that'd be the obvious one. I do really like it over there but to have the same size house and garden as we have now we'd need a sizeable lottery win.
Pink_Flash@reddit
Sure I'd give it a try, unfortunately im not educated or smart enough to be of any value to another country.
But I wouldnt mind trying Norway or Denmark.
SilverellaUK@reddit
No. I'm hopeless with languages and think it is insulting to expect people to be able to speak my language while in their own country.
mmoonbelly@reddit
Did it. Moved east of London to The Hague.
All the benefits of a slightly drier capital city, plus a beach and proper biking infrastructure.
Downside, a lot fewer theatres, Dutch bluntness.
Dudeinabox@reddit
Slovenia absolutely no doubt about it. Gorgeous country (60%+ Forest) and really well located bordering Italy, Croatia, Austria and Hungary
fmeupdad@reddit
Probably not European, I can easily travel to any of those and I would struggle living somewhere English isn’t the native language. With that in mind Malta is probably the only one I’d consider, although my partner is Norwegian so might move there at some point. For me personally, if it wasn’t for the politics/difficulty getting a visa, I’d love to be in the US.
ForsakenMidnight8061@reddit
Greece, Spain or Italy happily. Not France, France intimidates me.
dbe14@reddit
Cyprus. Went on holiday and fell in love with the place. Would move in a heartbeat.
Brilliant-Figure-149@reddit
Many advantages - they drive on the left, they have UK mains sockets, very few self checkouts, great weather most of the year - what's not to like? And it hasn't gone to shit like the UK.
Spike_Milligoon@reddit
I’d jump at France in a heartbeat
srogijogi@reddit
This is tricky, to be honest, as most people have never experienced 'real' life abroad. Most of people, when they travel, see different country through tourist perspective.
fergie@reddit
Why would I want to keep the same standard of living? If I am moving to any of the Nordics, Germany, Switzerland, Monaco or Lichenstein, the low countries, and probably a few more, then I want their higher standard of living, not my lower UK salary and shit house.
keatsy3@reddit
Yes… in a heartbeat yes… any of them
Smooth_Leadership895@reddit
Depends, if I could keep everything the same as it is now then it would be Finland or Sweden (possibly Norway). Especially the outer Helsinki region where Swedish is spoken. Otherwise I really like Cyprus and Croatia.
KinManana@reddit
I would be looking to change my lifestyle...
Crafty_Eye6235@reddit
Germany
Henno212@reddit
Yep anywhere with lots of blue sky and hot sun
Hate cold grey depressive days in England
chicken_nugget94@reddit
Maybe rogue but Slovenia, I absolutely loved all the landscapes there. Small enough to get around easily, a lot of Italian influence on food, and I'd easily be able to go to Croatia and Bosnia on holiday.
EnigmaMissing@reddit
My mum is German and although she hasn't lived there since the 90s, she speaks so fondly of it. I like the sound of how they operate over there
Alternatively, Norway or Finland. I've a friend who moved out to Norway for university and it turned her life all the way around and I need a shift like that. The weather and climate would suit me just fine 😅
PazyP@reddit
Would love south of France of southern Italy if I could keep exact same job/house etc I current have just plop it down there
FlatTyres@reddit
I would hope that moving would improve my lifestyle. I've long been torn between Nice and somewhere nearby the border in Italy. I don't have relevant qualifications or a French or Italian spouse to obtain a visa easily though. The UK rejoining would help.
grey-zone@reddit
I’ve lived in several European countries and they definitely have some advantages.
For example France has great countryside, great towns, better weather and far more space plus much better healthcare.
But people underestimate how difficult life is when you aren’t fluent in a country’s language. Sure you can get by, but listening to the radio is a massive chore, you don’t understand the detail of pretty much everything (signs, adverts, events, social interactions) and when your health goes downhill you really do not understand what the doctors are saying.
TurbulentLifeguard11@reddit
Denmark, somewhere within range of Billund.
londonflare@reddit
Can I choose multiple countries?
Jan-mar: Italian alps April - August: UK September - November: Southern Spain Dec: UK
sakmentoloki@reddit
The logical choice is Portugal, Porto specifically. My partner is from there and I spend alot of time there in the year.
But basel Switzerland is absolutely beautiful. I'd love to live there
OkVeterinarian197@reddit
I fell in love with Norway but might struggle in winter. Can I have a place in southern Spain for winter and Norway for summer?
TurbulentContext@reddit
This should be a thing. I suppose there'd be a problem with demonstrating language proficiency or such, but there should be some sort of exchange links where a fireman in Leeds can go be a fireman in Lisbon for 3 months and a binman in Aberdeen can go be a binman in Athens etc.
Some of the bigger companies like McDonalds could do it internally.
SatisfactionRemote80@reddit
Iceland. My favourite country in the world by far.
Monkeyboogaloo@reddit
Portugal. Spent a long summer there a couple of years ago. Both my wife and I had to work so so we decided to spend a month there rather than two weeks so we still get a holiday. It was incredibly hard coming back to the UK, doing a 5-day after adjusting our life there. I would love to go back; however the reality is slightly more complex as I have a school-age daughter. I'd have to start paying for an English school there etc. and then the costs just don't stack up.
scottishsilversurfer@reddit
Greece ( especially greek islands but not mainstream tourist traps like mykonos)
Independent_Today819@reddit
France. Although I'd be moving for a better lifestyle, not keeping the same; but I get what you mean- the reason I can't go is that I'm not employable enough there, so what you're saying is if that wasn't an object, would you go, because the implication is that of course your lifestyle would be better
MediocreMan_@reddit
Austria - Vienna would be great.
Great standard of living, and an excellent central hub for visiting neighbouring countries!
Fellsy8@reddit
I would consider Ireland just because I find the scenery and feel of the place soul healing but probably will never do it as I'm too settled here.
catmadwoman@reddit
I'd live in Ireland but in a small town. Been a few times and lived it. Also Vinaros in Spain. Beautiful town.
buffalosoldier111@reddit
We have a family holiday home in Spain, if I didn’t have a young daughter I’d move there in a heartbeat
SeoulGalmegi@reddit
I mean, I'd want to move to change my lifestyle.....
Double-Use4816@reddit
Seville
Feeling-Medium-7856@reddit
Finland. Love cold climates anyway, nice people, society seems to function nicely, great outdoors, nice cities.
Left_Mushroom7592@reddit
Amsterdam
Broad-Raspberry1805@reddit
Spain or Italy would be my dream. For the sunshine.
Puzzled_Ask_3189@reddit
I would definitely want to adopt a different work/ life balance culture.
Commercial_Chef_1569@reddit
Switzerland or Portugal, maybe Spain or Italy to. Slovakia was amazing too
Own-Nefariousness380@reddit
Portugal 🌞
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