Tips for newbie flatbed?
Posted by RabbitFabs@reddit | Truckers | View on Reddit | 48 comments
Hey all. After my search all over and wide for a decent flatbed company, I have been forced to work flatbed for my current company. Not disclosing which company, but its not hard to guess. Anyways, I have background experience in crane and rigging, I know a fair bit about flatbed. I just got my new (to me) truck today. Any helpful tips on flatbed is greatly appreciated! I want to learn as much as I possibly can about this niche of driver. Heres my new truck after I washed and shined it today. 26 model T680 with a 605 horse X15 with a 13 speed AMT, 3.25 rears and a 260" wheelbase. She rides very nice compared to my 23 International LT I had on dry van.
Alive_to_Thrive5@reddit
I'm a sucker for flattop semi trucks, that thing is clean plus you can't beat a x15 with 13 speed. Best thing Kenworth did was go back to having cummins because paccar is garbage.
Life-Calendar637@reddit
I'd say it's not an easy guess. p&s, Melton or Swift?
ComprehendReading@reddit
Missed the point of the post. OP already banged their way through your home state.
Life-Calendar637@reddit
Also, what do you mean they "banged their way" through my home state? God, reddit is full of queers. I'll probably get banned for this comment.
Life-Calendar637@reddit
I didn't miss anything. I understand they won't disclose. I'm JS it's not an easy guess. There are multiple companies with blue flatbed trucks.
CammedLS1@reddit
I don’t think Swift has ever ordered 605 horse x15’s, or ISX’s for that matter. I never saw a company tractor there with more than 400
RabbitFabs@reddit (OP)
My 23 international LT had a 450 horse X15 according to the cummins database. Also according to that database, this is a 605 model. Im not 100% if its got all of that power, but i will say you can stomp the pedal at 20 in a straight line and the traction light comes on. That traction light seems to come on almost every time you take off. Bobtail on all of that. Won't do near as much with a trailer hooked up. But it hauls ass all the way to 65 😂
CammedLS1@reddit
The data plate on the valve cover tells all. The Kenworth air cleaners kinda obscure it and makes it hard to see. Your glovebox will have the decal showing what engine and power level it was ordered with as well. The only folks I knew had big power (500+) were old Central owner operators
Novel_Row6037@reddit
omg that blue is literally so pretty 😭💙 but wait why is the truck so long?? looks like a nightmare to park lol. is flatbed actually harder than dry van or are guys just dramatic? gl with the new rig!!
RabbitFabs@reddit (OP)
Its a 260 inch wheelbase. They make them this long for a couple reasons, one is called swing dip clearance, which is how much space you have between the sleeper and the trailer when you turn. Another reason is that you are allowed some front overhang in most states, so for example you could haul 60 foot rebar with 4 foot overhang on the front and 3 foot overhang at the rear. A side effect from this as well is the truck rides much, much smoother than a standard dry van tractor. Yall are usually on a 225-235 inch wheelbase, so when you hit bumps the truck kinda acts like a see saw. With the long wheelbase, it doesnt do that near as much. Its not bad at all once you get used to it. Its the same as when you first started driving and went from a regular car to a truck 20x the size. Or from a skateboard to a car. Its all the same, you get used to it and you understand how it works, and eventually it becomes second nature.
Flatbed isnt hard at all as long as you arent severely out of shape or have some physical / health disability that can interfere. As long as you can atleast pick up half your body weight or complete atleast 1-3 pull ups, you should be fine on flatbed if youre wanting to look into that career. Flatbed guys arent dramatic, more so than alot of flatbed guys have a superiority complex towards dry van guys. Well, the whole industry kinda looks down on dry van, since that is the bottom of the totem pole. But flatbed is the gate to alot of different types of driving jobs. If youre responsible enough to SECURE 40,000 lb of metal / wood / machinery, and do that consistently with no issues, then a fuel company might look at you and say "okay, how about you get your hazmat / tanker and try this out" and those guys get paid good. Or if you've got a few years in and you've had a couple oversize, oversize company might look at you and say "you would probably be able to handle something thats 15 feet tall".
Nero-Danteson@reddit
squints I know that truck!
RabbitFabs@reddit (OP)
Now the question is have we come across each other when I was on the dry van side?
Nero-Danteson@reddit
Quite possibly. Could also recognize it from redacted yard.
RabbitFabs@reddit (OP)
Well theres only a few yards for flatbed lol. But the flatbed side here is actually quite awesome. I would reccomend it if you like a change of pace and some physical excersize. That was my reason for joining anyways, also because I like to learn, and flatbed is a good teacher.
Black000betty@reddit
Out of curiosity, why? Doesn't crane work pay considerably more?
RabbitFabs@reddit (OP)
I was not on crane. I was a Rigger and mechanic there. And no, I got the job almost straight out of high school. 15 bucks an hour, long story short between corporate not letting me drive the trucks into the shop to work on them, and then being blamed for shit not being fixed, I just left before they fired me.
Silent-Room-4987@reddit
Op, with all your gear and a full tank how much do you weigh bob tail?
RabbitFabs@reddit (OP)
Not sure, I havent filled up yet. We only use 53 step, 53 or 48 flat all spread, the 53's are on 10 and the 48's are on 8' 6". Theres some dedicated accounts that use a 48' x 96" but otherwise all are 102" across.
north_coast_nomad@reddit
dont run red lights or flip u-turns with said company
RabbitFabs@reddit (OP)
Oh they are awesome. I am actually dimming my lights as SOON as I see somebody else because I know they are just straight up lasers. You can literally see a mile down the road im not even kidding.
Casperuis495@reddit
Get the fmcsa green book and read 393 section I. It deals with weigh,height,lenght,width, and securement ratings for loads. I recognize that blue anywhere, and we both know their "training" was absolutely nothing. Make sure you read on the rules, and if it doesn't look right, it isnt right. Theres no such thing as too many straps on it
RabbitFabs@reddit (OP)
Actually the training is quite well I will admit. Dude is basically repeating most of these comments, theres alot that is covered and he has his own resources he gives us, and his number if we have any questions or need to send pictures with those questions. He helps drivers quite often.
ShoddySpace5680@reddit
Make sure you crank the hog
RabbitFabs@reddit (OP)
Every night hoss gobless
nekaiser@reddit
QUIT WHISPERIN LIBRULS I CANT HEER U
FloppyTacoflaps@reddit
Dont
possibly_lost45@reddit
OL swifty
Raeezordazetoo@reddit
This is a great place to start. Not sure how up to date it is but it should get you 90% current at least. For the most up to date regulations check here.
jqmallah@reddit
With your crane and rigging background you already understand load securement better than most. Biggest flatbed tip: the deck is slippery when wet and tarps catch wind like sails. Always secure before you tarp, not after. That T680 with the X15 is a solid setup for flatbed work.
starlux33@reddit
Had some heavy wind get up under my tarp and I looked like a damn drag racer with my rear tarp punching out the back like a parachute until all the bungees bent or snapped. Luckily I stopped right away and was able to recover my tarp.
Depending on the load and tarp situation, Ill use a strap or two on top to keep that from happening again.
United_News3779@reddit
I usually put a strap across the front of the tarp, and over top of the overlap between tarps.
After a while I carried a few 4" ratchet straps so I could position them exactly where I wanted them, even if the nearest hard-mounted ratchet had been used for load securement.
RabbitFabs@reddit (OP)
I want to say thank you all for the helpful comments. Some of this stuff I already have written down in my head, some of this is new information. I am excited to get into flatbed and make the most of it. 6 months of dry van literally had me balding and gained 20 lbs. I will not touch another van in my life so long as I have a say, and I am excited fo get out here and learn as much as I can every day. Thank you all again!
EntireRace8780@reddit
You will never have a problem with too much securement. When in doubt…
KingOfSpeedSR71@reddit
Remember, if you think that's plenty of securement, add one more.
Tarping is an art, not a science.
Embrace the whore bath.
Odd_Studio2870@reddit
Here to say whorebath. Dont be to proud to re wear clothes as long as your face, arms and ass are clean. Lol
Main-Structure-1093@reddit
Mind your braking with shiny bar loads.
flowermaneurope@reddit
Just take it slow and don’t hit anything. You’re gonna get dirty and sweaty. Make sure you have a high vis vest, hard hat, long sleeves and of course steel toe boots. When you go pick up a load and you’re not sure what to do, please just go ask another driver. I would say that the majority of us in the open deck game will definitely help another driver out with securing your load if you’re not sure. You can ask the fork lift guys how the other drivers are doing it but use that with some caution.
Djs2013@reddit
Make sure you have gloves, a bar, and proper straps for starters. Thick cardboard 90°, carpet squares, or plastic 90° can be helpful too.
Make sure you are clear on the rules/regulations on strapping in the area(s) you will be travelling.
Ancient_Alien_@reddit
Long sleeve shirts, a stack of them safety yellow ones on Amazon. A stack of clean shirts to change into after tarping/securing. You’ll get dirty as hell tarping. Find the gloves that work for you and buy several pair. I like having a jug of water with a spigot outside to wash my hands.
Initial-Relation-696@reddit
Slow! Your new friend.
ComprehendReading@reddit
Slow is currently parked at the TA and giving discount for speed.
Im-PhilMoreJenkins@reddit
Try to keep your equipment neat and organized. Knowing where every piece of load securement you have is will speed up your securement process.
Don't skimp on securement. There are minimums yes, but there technically isnt a maximum. But there is excessive. You'll learn where that line is for you with time.
Try to have a standardized (to you) process for tarping. It will make you quicker if youre doing it the same way everytime. There's gonna be curveball loads where you're gonna have to change up your style a bit but those are rarer than common.
Have 8' boards. Not landscape boards, have like 8, solid strong 4"x4" boards on ya. They'll be good for bulkheads, and of course loading. I carry 16, which is a lot. But I do overlength loads often.
Always keep a good set of gloves on hand and some wipes. You'd be surprised how dirty your hands can get lol. I like the basic leather gloves. They tend to last me the longest (~2 months per set).
Also respect coils. Go around corners slower with them big nasty things. Do that and youre golden.
Otherwise keep the greasy side down and the shiny side up!
ComprehendReading@reddit
FMSCA-Certified nasty consignor of reels and other disgusting flatbed loads here:
Buy your own fully metal claw hammer. It needs to be able to pull the 3" nails we nasty shippers use to help YOU on your load.
I once had some flop-flipped idiot break 3 pine-handled dollar-store hammers trying to claw out nails in our yard. We still have his nails and hammer heads in our scrap bin. It wasn't even our problem, we unloaded the reels he strapped with a wish and a whisper.
The 4x4 BEAMS (not boards) you use for reels will be nailed, hammered, battered and used as tie downs for your weird-as-fuck loads.
You also need to know that a strap over a 4x4 can help secure reels from rolling.
Ghettoman1315@reddit
Make sure you get plenty of sleep when you can and eat right. Take good care of yourself.
delawder29@reddit
Honestly I think you got a good set up here. All the comments below are precise and accurate. Always exercise safety. Check your little securement at all times whenever you stop for a good minute. There's a lot of good advice on here?
P3tr0@reddit
No such thing as too much securement
If your gut tells you something is off about your securement or how something is getting loaded then speak up. The shit is on the trailer and once it's loaded and signed it's your problem to deal with.
You can rotate your tarps and use them in more creative ways, just because they're rectangular doesn't necessarily mean that's the only shape they work in.
No such thing as too much securement
Use as much corner protection as you feel is necessary before tossing that tarp over things, tarps are expensive and a heavily patched tarp is the Hallmark of sloppy tarp work.
Get you some coveralls, and a nice long sleeve work shirt. The coveralls, mechanics work shirt, boots and hard hat are my uniform. Once I take all of it off I'm in shorts and tank tops. It's hot work no one says you have to wear your boots all day. Get comfortable when the hard work is done.
Good well maintained securement equipment will last plenty long. My pops handed down his first and only sets of Ratcheting chain binders. They're about 17 years old now and only really need a bit of paint. Greased regularly! Some of straps he gave me are old as hell too but in shockingly good shape. Learned the habit to put my straps in the rack when not in use, sun damage is real!
Bungies stretch duh, but in the cold they'll have a hard time pulling back into their original size. Take the ones you used and toss them on the passenger foot well and give em some heat.
Invest in good leather gloves, my oldest pair of gloves hit 4 years before they wore a hole into the palm. Keep them from getting too wet and they'll be your trusted pair for a good while.
NO SUCH THING AS TOO MUCH SECUREMENT IF YOU FEEL IT NEEDS ANOTHER STRAP OR TWO THROW IT THE FUCK ON
TwistedAirline@reddit
Flick the straps every single time and say, “that ain’t going anywhere”. Trust bro, the one time you don’t shit will slide on ya. It’s the flatbed gods commandment.
Introverted-headcase@reddit
Safety is more important than speed.