Is it worth spending that much more on NVIDIA's GPUs compared to AMD's specifically the RX 9070XT. Is DLSS worth it over FSR?
Posted by oMaR0404@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 25 comments
Hey guys so we all know that the RX 9070XT is arguably the best high end GPU for price to performance but i was wondering if the 5070 TI and 5080 worth spending hundreds more just for DLSS and MFG and especially after Nvidia announced the neural texture compression for the VRAM
gamblodar@reddit
The 5070Ti I'd say no; not enough of a gain.
The 5080 is worth it if budget is a minor concern. You do get an fps boost over the 9070XT, it's just a bad value. If you want the fps, and are willing to PAY, the 5080 is worth discussing.
oMaR0404@reddit (OP)
Do you think the 5080's price will significantly drop when the 6000s series gets released? I don't have the money right now anyways i am just planning
Dimo145@reddit
this mentality is never worth it, as the new gpus usually being a suite of features that make it worthwhile for longevity and forward compatability.
Hemish_21@reddit
Yeah but he doesn’t have the money rn
oMaR0404@reddit (OP)
True but we shall see if the upcoming series would be that much better than the current one and how far AI will come
ADB225@reddit
If you want to wait till mid 2028, for a GPU that may cost an arm and a leg, go ahead
Narrow-Prompt-4626@reddit
It won't be a significant drop until months after release
gamblodar@reddit
The way things are going, I half expect the 6080 to launch at a price higher than the 5080's current scalper-msrp.
donut4ever21@reddit
I personally cannot justify spending that much more money for the games I play. Literally every game I play runs great on my 9070xt. Hell, I even bought the 9060xt 16GB for the HTPC and it works great on my OLED TV. I'm not pulling hundreds of FPS, but enough for couch gaming.
snipsuper415@reddit
At least when it comes up to upscaling they seem to same to me. In terms of frame generation, i think Nvidia is way superior... But in terms of raw rasterization no.
overall all no tbh. I have both i don't even notice a difference when upscaling from 1440p
Fantastic-Buddy2069@reddit
If you were at 4k.....the 5090 is the better choice lol. 5080 isnt REALLY a dedicated 4k card. It CAN do it, sure, but the 5090 is well more suited. I mean were talking a huge demand from 1440 to 4k.
snipsuper415@reddit
Hey if you can find me a 5090 at $2k sure. But i ain't saying a 5090 is better at 4k at current prices... Considering i can get a 5080 at only $300 at most over msrp. Im looking at a nearly a $1700~ difference for a native 4k experience. 4k upscale is fine with a 5080 or a 9070xt.
Fantastic-Buddy2069@reddit
No I totally get that hahaha. The 5090 is grossly beyond MSRP compared to other cards. Those people who did get them at MSRP are stupidly lucky.
Pineapple_Scorpion@reddit
In Canada 5070ti is 1400cad and 9070xt is ~1000. With tax even more. I got a reg 9070 for 800 after tax in December and I've never looked back both cards are insanely priced and the markets fucked
AnxietyPretend5215@reddit
Something to consider, is that while FSR 4 has achieved a solid quality level in comparison to DLSS a major factor is overall adoption.
Way more games have DLSS over FSR, and a lot of games with FSR do not natively support FSR4.
Although, that optiscaler thing does do some heavy lifting there just something to keep in mind.
Narrow-Prompt-4626@reddit
NTC works on all cards, even Intel. But the game has to be developed with it in mind so it is looking unlikely to retroactively affect any existing games. Intel also has their own version which is supposedly better so we will have to wait and see what happens in that landscape
RamyKotb@reddit
Honestly, as path tracing becomes more and more prevalent by the day, I'd stick to Nvidia. Path tracing is a real game changer no matter what people say. Look at RE 9 with and without Path tracing enabled. So until AMD improve their path tracing performance I'm sticking to team green.
TheMagarity@reddit
You did not mention what game(s) you play, what refresh your monitor has, and how much you really need to squeeze out every frame. You may not even use either DLSS or FSR.
BritishAnimator@reddit
Side goal, If you want to get into AI development, then CUDA based NVidia is a strong choice.
ElectricGhostMan@reddit
It's better but not $300-400 better. It's not wise to buy on promises anyway but If you're doing like 70% gaming, I'd probably stick with the 9070XT.
Fantastic-Buddy2069@reddit
I say yes personally. If were only talking a couple hundred bucks for the 5070ti, absolutely worth it. DLSS is amazing tech to have when you need it, and anyone who says otherwise has to be a hater.
I agree the 9070XT is good value for the money, but in some countries the difference is massive, and in that case I would argue the 9070XT becomes a no brainer. Not as much of a problem here in the states though assuming supply isn't boned.
Now in the case of 5070TI vs 5080, if you're only doing 2560x1440p, 5070TI all day long. Anything else...5080. I mean the 5080 is still a good 1440p card, but....iirc its only 20% better, so unless you REALLY need that bump, I would just say save the money lol.
MultiMarcus@reddit
I think in this particular price category you are much better off just going for the AMD offering but if you’re talking about 5080 level cards that’s a whole different price category and a whole different performance category. Well I shouldn’t say a whole different it is not ridiculously far but it’s a card that I would say you could use for path tracing which I don’t think is the case with the 9070 XT. Especially if AMD doesn’t back port a lot of of their path tracing software suite from the next generation. It seems like that’s when you’re really going to be getting past tracing as something you can do on AMB hardware so if your plan is to keep this system well into the next generation I do think there is an actual question about if architecturally AMD is forward looking here.
As for MFG, it seems like the recent rumours indicate that there is already a version of that on the way for RDNA 4.
So honestly, if you’re just looking for a good value system the 1970 XT is great but at the same time there are questions about future support on both sides but I would be more sceptical of AMD considering their trap record
oMaR0404@reddit (OP)
Exactly why i am considering the features and longevity and not just performance
RememberTooSmile@reddit
Depends on what you’re using it for, it’s irritating but Cuda and OptiX is extremely important for specific applications like Blender. For just gaming, no not worth it. But if you’re going to be also using it as a workstation I would stay within the Nvidia family
Apprehensive-Bug9480@reddit
No, nothing beats 9070xt value